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Following the postponement of Brentford v Manchester United, Gameweek 17 now gets underway with Norwich City v Aston Villa at 19.45 GMT, followed by Manchester City v Leeds United 15 minutes later.

Gianni and Seb will be following the action in the embedded video below and over on our YouTube channel.

At Carrow Road, Dean Smith makes four changes from Gameweek 16, with Ben Gibson, Brandon Williams, Jacob Sorensen and Todd Cantwell coming in for Grant Hanley, Dimitris Giannoulis, Lukas Rupp and Josh Sargent.

Steven Gerrard, meanwhile, makes just the one change, with Emiliano Buendia replacing the injured Marvelous Nakamba, who may miss the rest of the 2021/22 season after suffering a knee injury against Liverpool at the weekend.

As a result, Ollie Watkins leads the line once again, with Danny Ings having to settle for a place on the bench.

Notably, Jed Steer, Morgan Sanson, Anwar El Ghazi and Keinan Davis are all absent from the matchday squad, with Gerrard revealing in his pre-match press conference that two first-team players had tested positive for Covid-19.

Meanwhile, Pep Guardiola makes four changes, as John Stones comes in at full-back for the suspended Joao Cancelo, while further forward, Kevin De Bruyne, Riyad Mahrez and Phil Foden are in for Ilkay Gundogan, Raheem Sterling and Gabriel Jesus, all of whom drop to the bench.

Kyle Walker surprisingly misses out, with reports suggesting he is short of full fitness.

For Leeds, they name an unchanged XI, as Liam Cooper, Kalvin Phillips and Patrick Bamford remain out.

GAMEWEEK 17 LINE-UPS

Norwich City XI: Krul, Aarons, Kabak, Gibson, Williams, Sorensen, Gilmour, McLean, Placheta, Cantwell, Pukki

Subs: Gunn, Byram, Tomkinson, Mumba, Giannoulis, Rowe, Idah, Dowell, Dickson-Peters

Aston Villa XI: Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Targett, Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey, Buendia, Young, Watkins

Subs: Marschall, Tuanzebe, Hause, Iroegbunam, Chukwuemeka, Philogene-Bidace, Trezeguet, Archer, Ings


Manchester City XI: Ederson, Stones, Dias, Laporte, Zinchenko, Rodri, De Bruyne, Bernardo, Mahrez, Foden, Grealish

Subs: Steffen, Ake, Sterling, Gundogan, Jesus, Fernandinho, Egan-Riley, Palmer, Wilson-Esbrand

Leeds United XI: Meslier, Shackleton, Ayling, Llorente, Firpo, Forshaw, Dallas, Raphinha, Roberts, Harrison, James

Subs: Klaesson, Gelhardt, Cresswell, Drameh, Summerville, Greenwood, Klich, McCarron, Jenkins

  1. jonnybhoy
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Chances of Utd playing this weekend?

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      also looking for people from the future to tell me nest week's lotto numbers

      1. MikeS
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Lol

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Up in the air. Could get moved to next midweek if not this weekend. Just hold tight if you are fortunate enough to have United players like me.

      1. jonnybhoy
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Join the club...

      2. MikeS
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Fortunate or unfortunate enough?

    3. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      in all seriousness legit no one knows so might as well just wait and see lol

      1. jonnybhoy
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers. Just wanted thoughts on it.

    4. Chalobah's Witness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      don't think so, possibly to early but who knows

    5. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      They have the midweek open so I would suspect this would be the first alternative.

  2. Weak Become Heros
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Bernardo rested at HT?

    1. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Most probably imo. Pep talked about 2 players who played a lot in a few of his pressers; Bernardo and Rodri.

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      most likely yes. been city's best player and plays the full 90 for the past month. need all the rest he can get

  3. ZeBestee
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Would u do Mount 》》Foden?

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      what if mount scores a hat trick? would you sell?

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Obviously no. But Wolves next won't be easy then fixtures change a bit.

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      No

  4. R123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Cup opponent has KDB captain (since GW4), on 35pts from 3. Also has Firminio. Jings

  5. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Cancelo’s red flag really should have been removed by now as might prevent possible price drop tonight

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Will be soon & price locked.

    2. BROOKLYN GOONER
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I’m an owner. Happy to see people sell.

  6. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Livramento keep or replace?

    1. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      For whom?

    2. BeWater
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Who would you get to replace him?

    3. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Alt nouri

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Taken a glance at fixtures?

        1. g40steve
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Arsenal better & gives me cover?

          Teirney
          White
          Tomy

      2. BeWater
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        He's on my list but need to let these fixtures clear.

  7. Sterling Archer
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Bernardo had a niggle, at 3-0 no need to risk

    1. BeWater
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Sam Lee's tweet:

      Bernardo 'had muscular niggles, no injury but he was a little bit uncomfortable, so at 3-0 no risks', Guardiola says

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Pep's been eluding to resting him for a while.

  8. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Bernardo 'had muscular niggles, no injury but he was a little bit uncomfortable, so at 3-0 no risks', Guardiola says

    https://twitter.com/SamLee/status/1470885807896600580?t=25VeXivIr0vkASXHRiq_3Q&s=19

    1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Could have waited until 60 mins atleast haha

    2. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Niggles is such a funny word

      1. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Gives me giggles

    3. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      That's a red flag tbh. Maybe a small thing but may be enough to keep him out of Newcastle game. They have enough to give him another game off.

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Ah only a yellow flag, Shirley.

        1. ZeBestee
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Haha

          1. Rainer
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Not ideal for owners, if anyone can rest a key player and give him a week and a half off without worry it's Pep.

            1. ZeBestee
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 3 months ago

              With Foden and Kdb back, he may start playing deeper to our liking. I will probably be the first one to offload to a more attacking Foden.

              1. Ze_Austin
                • 7 Years
                4 years, 3 months ago

                Nope. He wasn't deep tonight

                No City attacker is deep atm. It's a fluid front 5

                1. ZeBestee
                  • 11 Years
                  4 years, 3 months ago

                  Well I watched around 20 min or so of first half and Foden, Kdb, Mahrez and Grealish were all in front of him. He even tried to cover space for them to flourish. Didn't like that.

                  1. Ze_Austin
                    • 7 Years
                    4 years, 3 months ago

                    He was in the box at other times

                    Wriggled through defenders and carried the ball in

                    The usual way he plays, tbh. He's not been that false 9 for more than two games, iirc. His points have come from the way he played today

                    1. ZeBestee
                      • 11 Years
                      4 years, 3 months ago

                      Yeah he is definitely added goals to his game this season. I have a feeling though Kdb/Foden would be better City options going forward though.

      2. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah true, but you never know

    4. AC Yew
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Great. Gonna keep having to take hits it seems to field a full team

    5. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Ah, interesting

      Thanks

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Surely he'll get a rest on Sunday. They could easily fetch similar goal tally against Newcastle as they did tonight.

        1. Ze_Austin
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah, but I wouldn't advise selling. 25+ minutes vs Newcastle are enough

    6. vincentwsho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      So not to get him this week I guess? Was planning to do Mbeumo to Bilva. Is Bowen a better choice?

    7. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Lol I said there had to have been a reason why he was taken off at that time and everyone told me it was definitely just a rest

  9. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    How to get Foden, Watkins and Stones in?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Head Ake isn't it.

      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Stones not Ake

        1. Rainer
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Stones cause Ake.

          1. evilfish
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Does ya Foden.

  10. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Any new on Bernardo?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Precaution see above

  11. Gabbiadini
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    I made the comment yesterday about whether I should do Brownhill to J Ramsey with 0.1 ITB.
    Decided against it, rather 2 FTs this week. Oh well, that's the way it goes aye.

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      However, still used a transfer this week, Mbeumo to Foden so not all bad.

    2. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Go with your guts and feelings/thoughts. Never make decisions off comments, just weigh them up.

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        no, exactly.
        the likelihood of him scoring was quite low, his second attacking return this season.

        I pretty much always roll when I am indecisive too.

    3. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I made the comment earlier today that I fancied him to score tonight. Took his goal really well

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        He did and in that advanced position, he is one of the better 4.5s.

  12. AC Yew
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Just saw the Man City score. 7 goals and only 1 measly point from Bilva lol

  13. Pepeye
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    KDB, Foden immense tonight. Wish I had captained Phil but 11pts ok

    1. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      How would you feel about 12?

      1. Pepeye
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Even better

    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Doing yourself a discredit with the 11! 😀

  14. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    All we need now is a Salah benching or no show.

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not with no subs, I don't, despite having Foden vc.

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        You absolutely do, rank wise anyway.

      2. gooberman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Strange post. Even with no sub to come in, surely you would take Foden VC?

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Is the captaincy % that high is it?
          Not even a hat-trick?

          Apologies, I don't look into these numbers.

    2. Chalobah's Witness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      this will never happen as Klopp needs to win every single point before the best players leave for AFCON.

  15. BrockLanders
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Sorry about Bilva guys. I got on him this week. I've had a trail of horrible breaks all season so fully expect that niggle to be 2 months out.

  16. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    7084 have rage transferred Bernardo out so far this game week

    1. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      No pressure.

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Ramsey wagon taking off!

    3. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      What % of those do you think just transferred him in?

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        lots probably … for Gundo when he was thought to be injured

        FPL is a cruel mistress 🙂

    4. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      You'll not be the only one

  17. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Kev has finished 90 min 3 times this season, has 4 goals and 7 bps. He is going to have his say before the season is out.

    1. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah, had he been around 10.5 mark, it would have been really ideal. He is a bit too expensive for rotation but I feel he will start more games going forward.

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Only nailed player in the squad when fit

        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          He and Foden were just incredible!!

        2. ZeBestee
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah he should be nailed, but this season he had not looked good early on. Today was a much better performance from him. City also have a plethora of options.

  18. Jimbo-Jones
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Obv v early, but if you can only start one of the below, who would you go for?

    A. Reguilon (liv)
    B. Livra (BRE)
    C. Luiz (BUR)

    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

  19. Pepeye
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    KDB & Foden back to full fitness If you can, jump on but Sterling will play at Newcastle

  20. Ange Ball
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Worth minus 8?

    Raph > Bowen
    Jota> B-Silva
    Joelinton > Antonio

    1. gooberman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      yep

    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Jota to B.Silva? Really?!

      1. Ange Ball
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Yes

    3. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Jota ? is he injured or something ?

      Bilva was subbed at half time with an injury

      1. Ange Ball
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Trying to move away from players my rival also ownns. B-Silva was taken of precaution played alot of games.

        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          I don't think he'll start on Sunday.

    4. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      You're not going to escape the Joelinton question

      How many beers did that take?

  21. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    So let me get this straight, City scored 7 and KDB played 90 but got no assists??

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      No Aguero no assist for him

  22. STONEROSES
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Bench 2, pls:

    A. Alonso (wol)
    B. Dias (new)
    C. Jota (tot)
    D. King (CRY)
    E. Antonio (NOR)
    F. Gallagher (SOT)

    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Geez, that's tough! Gallagher for one. Possibly Jota, too.

      1. MikeS
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Gallagher?! No way

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Alonso King

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      AD probably but nightmare decision for you.

    4. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      King and someone else who isn't on this list

    5. MikeS
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I'm I similar situation.. benched king and esr

      1. MikeS
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Infact why are we even thinking about it.. covid will cause more cancellations undoubtedly and choose for us

    6. Mr. O'Connell
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I'd advise just waiting til Friday. I'm sure COVID will ease your benching headache in some way.

    7. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      How can King place Palace but Gallagher play Southampton 🙂
      E and A at the moment

    8. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      DE

  23. dshv
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Hope for reguilon and livra to play…

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Me too , haven’t heard much about reguilion but sssume ok now

  24. Pepeye
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Bernardo cramping up at half time so best to rest him for second half. Nothing serious. Gundo more than adequate replacement

  25. Neevesy
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone fancy guessing the front 6 for Man City v Newcastle. (Guessing defence and Rodri are nailed?)

    1. Neevesy
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Front 5*

    2. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Gundo, KDB, Sterling, Jésus and....??

    3. Neevesy
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Bilva, KDB, Foden, Sterling, Jesus?

      Gundog? Mahrez? Grealish?

    4. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Jesus, Sterling, Foden, Kdb and Gundo.

      1. ZeBestee
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Add Bilva and Rodri.

      2. Ze_Austin
        • 7 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I expect this too

  26. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    So Silva subbed at half time. I'm assuming this was a rest. Can anybody confirm that it wasnt an injury?

    1. Pepeye
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Bilva complained of cramp at half time so City took no chances and sent Gundo on. Nothing more than that

      1. MikeS
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Probably be rested next game too then?

        1. Crunchie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          well another 45 mins with Gundo, KDB probably, good news for Foden owners. Of course guessing Pep roulette 🙂

    2. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      'Muscle niggle'

    3. pjomara
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A niggle so probably on the bench at the weekend, similar to Foden last weekend.

  27. The White Pele
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    sanchez to DDG/ Ramsdel or get Bowen for -4?

    1. MikeS
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A week or so too late

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Fabianski would be my pick if I had to choose now.

  28. squ1rrel
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Son -> KDB done

    1. Pepeye
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Smart Move

    2. MikeS
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Way too early to do that transfer..

      1. squ1rrel
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        I'm impulsive and have better things to worry about this week

        1. MikeS
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Well you might have something else to worry about if there is a covid outbreak at city for example..

    3. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Wow, you don't want Son after next week?
      Spurs also have 2 fixtures to make up.

  29. We Go Again
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Really pleased that Watkins transfer paid off

    1. Crunchie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      first time since GW7 a transfer timing has paid off. Nice feeling

    2. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah same here, first time Watkins owner for this GW. Chuffed.

  30. Pepeye
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    The Scout was wrong to put Walker in for GW17. Not Pep's favourite player at moment , Cancelo back against Toon