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Gameweek 12 is the second midweek round of the 2022/23 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) season and follows hot on the heels of Sunday’s action.

Brighton and Hove Albion v Nottingham Forest get us underway at 19:30 BST, with Crystal Palace v Wolverhampton Wanderers three-quarters of an hour later.

Roberto De Zerbi makes just one change from the side that lost 2-0 at Brentford in Gameweek 11, as Adam Lallana replaces Pervis Estupinan, who drops to the bench.

That could potentially see Leandro Trossard line up at left wing-back, although a system change to a back four is another possibility.

As for the visitors, Steve Cooper makes three alterations. In come Serge Aurier, Orel Mangala and Jesse Lingard, with Harry Toffolo, Cheikhou Kouyate and Emmanuel Dennis dropping out.

Neco Williams, meanwhile, is included in the starting XI, with Aurier expected to feature at left-back.

Over at Selhurst Park, Patrick Vieira makes just one change from Saturday’s goalless draw at Leicester City, as Michael Olise comes in for Jordan Ayew.

Managerless Wolves, however, ring the changes. Nathan Collins returns from suspension, while Nelson Semedo, Hugo Bueno and Boubacar Traore are all handed starts.

Jonny is a substitute, but fellow full-back Rayan Ait-Nouri is absent from the matchday squad.


GAMEWEEK 12 LINE-UPS

Brighton and Hove Albion XI: Sanchez, Veltman, Dunk, Webster, March, Mac Allister, Caicedo, Trossard, Gross, Lallana, Welbeck

Subs: Steele, Lamptey, Sarmiento, Enciso, Undav, Estupinan, Gilmour, Van Hecke, Turns

Nottingham Forest XI: Henderson, Williams, Cook, McKenna, Aurier, Mangala, Yates, Freuler, Lingard, Gibbs-White, Johnson

Subs: Hennessey, Biancone, Worrall, Awoniyi, Toffolo, Surridge, Kouyate, Dennis, Boly


Crystal Palace XI: Guaita, Ward, Andersen, Guehi, Mitchell, Doucoure, Schlupp, Eze, Olise, Zaha, Edouard

Subs: Johnstone, Goodman, Tomkins, Ebiowei, Balmer, Riedewald, Milivojevic, Ayew, Mateta

Wolverhampton Wanderers XI: Sa, Semedo, Collins, Kilman, Bueno, Neves, B Traore, A Traore, Nunes, Podence, Costa

Subs: Sarkic, Mosquera, Jonny, Hodge, Campbell, Ronan, Moutinho, Guedes, Hwang



  1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Someone in my ML went Billing(c). High risk high reward and all that

    1. More Cowbell
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Could pay off huge

    2. Tomerick
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’d say it’s more high risk, little reward. He might haul but he’s also got to haul more than more obvious captain picks to make the risk worthwhile which is even more unlikely. Basically it’s just a punt.

  2. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Would you take Gundagon for Eze in draft league?

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      No

    2. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      100%

  3. Origi-nal
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Was planning to WC in 13 however I’m not so sure I need to.

    What would you do here?

    Ramsdale
    Trippier Schar Cancelo
    Salah Trossard Rashford Martinelli
    Haaland Mitrovic Auba

    Ward Andreas NWilliams Dalot

    A) Wildcard
    B) Rashford -> Foden
    C) Auba, Schar -> Kane, 4.4 Def (-4)
    D) Other

    1. Solly The Seagull
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      If you are not WC now when you will?

    2. luk46
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      You gotta hit the wc button

    3. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      WC
      even if u just change 4-5 only 4 weeks left get some use out of it

  4. Solly The Seagull
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    On WC

    A) Scamacca+White
    B) Solanke+Gabriel

    1. luk46
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I feel like A

    2. Viper
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A

  5. luk46
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    would you rather

    A - Zaha + Jesus
    B - Saka + Firmino

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      b

  6. Viper
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Here's where I'm currently at on WC

    Ramsdale (Ward)

    Cancelo Doherty Trippier (Guehi Williams)

    Salah Bowen Saka Martinelli Foden

    Haaland Scamacca (Archer)

    Early debate keep coming back to

    A. Martinelli & 4.5m

    B. Mitrovic & Pereira

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A for me

  7. ZimZalabim
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Wildcarders what moves are you making tonight ?

    Im thinking Pope to Guaita and maybe Zaha to Mount or could do trossard to Mount

    Thoughts ?

    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Brought in Salah (not sure I'll actually want him but figure I'll just get him before a rise in case) and Antony. Said I'll get Mount too just in case he double-rises before Saturday to gain some value, if he scores tomorrow we might have a chance at it happening

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        same reason im getting mount in dont think ill end up keeping him but still spots to decide on.

        I am one of the few that held salah to my own determent rank has suffered but im holding through till 16 now and lets hope his form has returned and this isnt a false dawn for Liverpool.

        What midfield are you going for ? Im currently planning Salah Saka Martinelli Foden and debating the last spot if I go Andreas and 3-4-3/4-4-2 or 3-5-2 and try to squeeze another mid in

        1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          At the minute planning on Saka Foden Martinelli Antony and either Pereira or Eze. If I get Salah then I'll have a fair bit to change so we'll have to see

          1. ZimZalabim
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah Salah is a rejig ur squad kind of choice, tough to commit to that much change if ur happy with the rest of the team. Anthony is a interesting one, havent even considered him, will have a look at him an united options but hes probably out of my budget in that midfield. (4 spots are locked in)

            Eze is in my 3-5-2 draft and Andreas is my fifth mid in any 4 mid options. A few spots to finalise over the next few days and that will have a knock on effect.

            1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Yeah tonight will certainly play a big part in deciding a big part of a lot of wildcards I imagine! Antony is a bit of a punt, he seems like a bit of a greedy player but that's normally a good thing for FPL, likes to shoot on sight from what I've seen of him but also seems like he's relishing playing with Ronaldo so I think if he's on the pitch he's going to try to seek him out too. ManUtd have good fixtures from GW14-16 so it's essentially getting him in early to save a transfer. Considering losing Kane for GW13+14 and getting him back for the Liverpoo and Leeds games, if I do this then Salah is more of a possibility so I'm just trying to keep options open where I can, never like to get too attached to drafts as it can impact your decision making

            2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              *Only thing making me second-guess Antony is seeing last night that ManUtd have only scored 13 goals this season which is pretty poor, take into account 5 of those were against Liverpool and City (the former were very poor and left a lot of space to exploit, the latter were 4-0 up at HT and didn't seem to keep concentration defensively in the second half)

    2. Casual Player
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Bought in Salah in case of price rise - 50/50 I want him, but getting just in case since he might rise.

      Sold James and N.Williams to fund as definitely don't want either - appreciated the CS Neco, but don't let the door hit you

      Holding Trossard for now as when I first looked at FPL stats he was over 100, which would've meant an extra 0.1SP for me. But I see he's now dropped so suspect that won't happen.

      Don't really want Mount, but Tross to Mount might make sense to try and catch a (very unlikely) double rise?

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I have no value in trossard got a bit in zaha so doing trossard to mount I think if he scores tomorrow he will get another rise this week, but lets see, was hoping saka and foden would drop once atleast but not happening.

        Salah scores tomorrow and he will rise again before forrest imo

        1. Casual Player
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Since you have no value in Trossard, I think that's the play

          I've just refreshed and he's back up from 97.5 to 99.1 lol. I'm not busy today so can refresh FPL stats up the price change time to see if I'm likely to get my extra 0.1 needed. If unlikely, will do the Trossard to Mount move.

          I was 50/50 between those two before GW11, definitely went the wrong way there

          1. ZimZalabim
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            yeah ive done that move trossard to mount and lets see if he manages to get that double rise.

            I just looked and trossard is back to 97, weird one, rise isnt looking too likely now, but you never know.

  8. Rex Lapis
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Guaita or Kepa?
    I'm on Wildcard

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I was debating the same and decided guaita fixtures are too good Kepa form better but fixtures look tough

    2. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Kepa

    3. Casual Player
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Raya

  9. Flying Assassins
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Toney or Mitovic on WC? (Have had Toney all season but conscious of YC situation)

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Mitro I think

    2. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Treat yourself to Scamacca

    3. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Get a 5th mid instead

  10. JT11fc
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Livefpl says I have 6 differentials
    Salah (c)
    Watkins
    Pulisic
    Dalot
    Tarkowski
    Koulibaly

    Do or die I guess

  11. Sheffield Wednesday
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Bench one:

    a) Andersen (eve)
    b) Coufal (BOU)
    c) Trippier (tot)

    1. JT11fc
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Anderson

    2. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Coufal - WH are very short at the back. Not keen on Palace defence but two of two clean sheets away to bottom 14 teams so far,

  12. GeordieZebras
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Anderson,
    Obviously.

  13. Viper
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone going Firmino on WC? Really feel like I want to be doubled up on their attack for these 4 games

    1. Bushwhacker
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      That's a tough one ; can he an Nunez play in the same XI?

      1. Viper
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I think Firmino has priority over him. He's in great form

    2. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Im waiting to see the line up tomorrow to see who plays from the left and how bobby/nunez are fit in with salah now playing through the middle, but ill likely get one of them in as well, feel like bobby is the one to go for atm.

  14. fish&chips
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Good chance kepa rises tonight right? Might have to go early on him

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      how many CS do you think he gets from

      MUN, bha, ARS, new

      Imo tough to get more than 1

      1. fish&chips
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Fair point but I need to generate some cash to get haaland back in. Dare I say ward....?

        1. ZimZalabim
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          im on wc and planning to get guaita in

          1. fish&chips
            • 15 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Good shout. Would need the haaland drop though

            1. ZimZalabim
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Hes not moved from -124 so looks like he should drop

    2. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Goalkeepers tend to even out - I'd save transfers for players with greater upside.

      1. fish&chips
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Need to make some cash to bring in haaland. Otherwise I'd agree with you.

        1. Sheffield Wednesday
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Definite priority then...

  15. fish&chips
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Which do you prefer?

    A) kane & Zaha-> haaland & martinelli
    B) kane & Pope -> haaland & Kepa

    I can only do A if either haaland or marti drop.

    I gave exact cash for B so need to do it before kepa rises (or hope haaland drops)

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A

      1. fish&chips
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks mate. Looks better on paper I agree. I'm sure Zaha will troll me if I take him out though. Haha

        1. ZimZalabim
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          yeah i was planning to sell him tonight now im reconsidering but still leaning towards selling him
          Mid spots are precious and Arsenal are in too good of form so Im doubling up

    2. putana
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      a

  16. Jase3377
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    How does this WC look?

    Pope (Ward)
    Cancelo, TAA, Tripper, Saliba (Neco)
    Salah, Foden, Saka, Martinelli (Andreas)
    Haaland, Mitro ($5m or less fodder)

    Or swap Saliba for Guéhi (own at 4.3), so I can afford Solanke?

    Thanks

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      looks good
      Id keep Saliba or if u swap will you change formation ?

      You could do saliba to guehi, pope to ramsdale and get solanke in and switch to a 3-4-3

      1. Jase3377
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah with Saliba would be 442
        With Solake would be 343

        I could do Pope to Ramsdale, Saliba to Gomez and Solanke in also.
        Would give the option of either formation

        Ramsdale (Ward)
        Cancelo, TAA, Tripper, Gomez (Neco)
        Salah, Foden, Saka, Martinelli (Andreas)
        Haaland, Mitro (Solanke)

    2. Max City
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I'd do Guehi and Solanke.. just don't expect too much

      1. Jase3377
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah it is tempting. Difficult decision
        almost wish I WC'd GW12 instead of taking hits

  17. putana
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    who is the higher priority to bring in for trossard: saka or foden?

    1. Max City
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I want them both, and would provide space for them both, tbh

    2. Snake Juice
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Both in for a hit, just get it over with

    3. Fabreghastly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Foden

    4. Snake Juice
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      But I'd prioritize Foden

  18. Letsgo!
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Trossard and martial to foden and eduoard for -4?

    1. fish&chips
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't be losing martinelli for a hit

      1. Max City
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        It's Martial lol

        1. fish&chips
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Haha whoops, too early

    2. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Zaha 5 goals and 1 assist = 49 points
      Eze 2 goals and 2 assists = 47 points

      No flash in the pan - this was the exact pattern last time Eze was fit in 20/21.

  19. sirmorbach
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Just done Trossard to Foden. WC still intact. Any early thoughs here?

    Pope (Ward)
    Cancelo, Perisic, Trippier (Saliba, Dunk)
    Salah, Foden, Zaha, Martinelli (Andreas)
    Haaland, Mitrovic, Toney

    1. snow pea in repose
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Toney is one YC from suspension

  20. Dušan Citizen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    I will never get over the mistake I made today taking Neco out for VVD for -8 and falling from 48k to 60k.

    I would be on 23 (-4) if I kept him.

    Just hate how I lose 5-6 points in every gameweek on stupid mistakes.

    1. Herger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Look at it this way mate - at least it’s a story to tell the grandkids one day.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I will if VVD scores against West Ham haha

      2. DycheDycheBaby
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        This.

  21. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Zaha time to move on?

    1. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Depends who for......

  22. Letsgo!
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Trossard and martial to eze and jesus for -4 sounds good?

    1. Eleven Hag
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      You got Martial?

      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Lateriser too, maybe he follows pro pundit

      2. Letsgo!
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yup the week i got him he gt 4 points and off he went out injured and i wanted sell him this week but missed the deadline

  23. Gazwaz80
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Hi all.
    Is it game week 16 when we get our World Cup ‘Wildcard’
    Cheers…