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Five more Gameweek 12 matches take place on Wednesday evening, with Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur following on from four 7.30pm BST kick-offs.

As predicted/feared, Jurgen Klopp and Graham Potter have made several changes this evening with the games coming thick and fast.

Trent Alexander-Arnold, Fabio Carvalho, Kostas Tsimikas, Jordan Henderson and Darwin Nunez are all recalled by the Liverpool boss at Anfield tonight, with James Milner, Harvey Elliott, Andy Robertson and Fabinho benched and Diogo Jota now sidelined for months.

David Moyes gives Flynn Downes his first Premier League start for West Ham, while the fit-again Kurt Zouma and Pablo Fornals also return. Vladimir Coufal and Emerson Palmieri are demoted to substitute duty, while Lucas Paqueta has reportedly picked up a shoulder injury and is set for a spell out.

In west London, Graham Potter has matched Klopp in making five changes from the side that began the 2-0 win at Aston Villa at the weekend.

Out go Thiago Silva, Ben Chilwell, Mateo Kovacic, Raheem Sterling and Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, with all bar Chilwell on the bench. Kalidou Koulibaly, Cesar Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Conor Gallagher and Armando Broja are their replacements.

Hosts Brentford make two changes from the side that began the 2-0 win against Brighton last Friday as Zanka and Mads Roerslev oust Kristoffer Ajer and Yoane Wissa from the starting XI.

In the later kick-off, there is just one change apiece.

Marcus Rashford replaces Cristiano Ronaldo for the Red Devils, while Spurs’ Yves Bissouma comes in for the injured Richarlison as Antonio Conte opts for a 3-5-2 at Old Trafford.

On Tyneside, an unchanged Newcastle take on an Everton side who have Anthony Gordon and Dominic Calvert-Lewin back in their team. Dwight McNeil and Neal Maupay make way for the Toffees.

Some 300 miles south, Bournemouth are also unchanged for the south-coast non-derby.

The only alteration for visitors Southampton is enforced, with Duje Caleta-Car coming in to replace the injured Armel Bella-Kotchap.

GAMEWEEK 12 LINE-UPS

Bournemouth XI: Neto, Fredericks, Mepham, Senesi, A Smith, L Cook, Lerma, Christie, Billing, Tavernier, Solanke.

Subs: Travers, Rothwell, Stacey, Stanislas, Dembele, Moore, Pearson, Anthony, Zemura.

Southampton XI: Bazunu, Walker-Peters, Caleta-Car, Salisu, Perraud, Ward-Prowse, Maitland-Niles, Elyounoussi, Aribo, Adams, A Armstrong.

Subs: McCarthy, Lyanco, Armstrong, Mara, Djenepo, Edozie, Diallo, Larios, Walcott.

Chelsea XI: Arrizabalaga, Cucurella, Koulibaly, Chalobah, Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Loftus-Cheek, Gallagher, Havertz, Mount, Broja.

Subs: Mendy, Silva, Kovacic, Zakaria, Ziyech, Sterling, Chukwuemeka, Pulisic, Aubameyang.

Brentford XI: Raya, Henry, Pinnock, Mee, Jorgensen, Jensen, Janelt, Onyeka, Roerslev, Toney, Mbuemo.

Subs: Cox, Ajer, Wissa, Dasilva, Baptiste, Canos, Ghoddos, Lewis-Potter, Damsgaard.

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, van Dijk, Tsimikas, Salah, Henderson, Thiago, Carvalho, Firmino, Nunez.

Subs: Kelleher, Fabinho, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Jones, Elliott, Robertson, Clark, Phillips.

West Ham United: Fabianski, Johnson, Kehrer, Zouma, Cresswell, Downes, Rice, Soucek, Bowen, Scamacca, Fornals.

Subs: Randolph, Areola, Coufal, Antonio, Lanzini, Ogbonna, Benrahma, Coventry, Emerson Palmieri.

Newcastle United XI: Pope, Trippier, Schar, Botman, Burn; Longstaff, Guimaraes, Joelinton, Almiron, Wilson, Murphy

Subs: Karius, Lascelles, Targett, Shelvey, Lewis, Fraser, Willock, Anderson, Wood

Everton XI: Pickford, Tarkowski, Coady, Mykolenko; Coleman, Iwobi, Gueye, Onana, Gordon; Gray, Calvert-Lewin

Subs: Begovic, Holgate, Keane, McNeil, Doucouré, Davies, Vinagre, Garner, Maupay

Manchester United XI: De Gea, Dalot, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Fred, Antony, Fernandes, Sancho, Rashford.

Subs: Heaton, Lindelof, Malacia, Eriksen, McTominay, Pellistri, Elanga, Garnacho, Ronaldo.

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Doherty, Romero, Dier, Davies, Perisic, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Bissouma, Son, Kane.

Subs: Forster, Skipp, Sanchez, Gil, Sessegnon, Spence, Tanganga, Moura, Lenglet.

GAMEWEEK 12 RESULTS SO FAR

Crystal Palace2 – 1Wolverhampton Wanderers
Brighton and Hove Albion0 – 0Nottingham Forest

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  1. The Mandalorian
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Salah was incredible against Man City, scores the winning goal then next game is shoved back on the wing.

    Klopp determined to make Nunez work at the expense of Salah.

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    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Difficult with jota and diaz out

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    2. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Jota injury was the nail in the coffin for him unfortunately

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    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He played about 35 mins central after Nunez went off. Looked more threatening and had a chance but of course it looks better when he plays against a team that dominates the ball and gives him chances to break past the last man at the halfway line. He's not going to get that against other teams. They spent a lot of money on Nunez so Klopp will persist, he's selfish and wasteful but he's able to find space and chances very well. Don't forget Mane was often one that had to play with someone on the opposite wing that didn't get his head up often and went for goal on most occasions too

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      1. El Presidente
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        You paid a lot of money for him but paid quite a bit as well to extend your best player's contract in the summer. Klopp must find a way to make Nuñez work without eclipsing his star player and main man. It's just a waste of talent to see Salah pinned down like that, it's just not right.

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        1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          I'm not a Liverpool fan firstly lol. While I agree, the thing is Liverpool don't have anyone else that can play the RW role like Salah. Elliot has played there but he's a very different player, he doesn't have Salah's pace or trickery and he won't stretch teams the way he does. With Diaz and Jota injured too Liverpool don't have anyone that can do the same on the left, Carvalho is playing there now to fill the gap but I doubt Klopp wanted him playing the minutes he has been this early on. Could play Nunez there but he'll naturally drift infield so the same issue is there, no width

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    4. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Problem is with Jota and Diaz injured then there is a shortage of quality front players so Klopp is trying to get both Darwin and Bobby on the pitch which pushes Salah out wide.

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      1. The Mandalorian
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Stop crying !!

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        1. The Mandalorian
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Ignore

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    5. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      They both played a half up front. Guess who scored.

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  2. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Tonight we went top of the Championship.

    Yet instead of celebrating, us QPR fans are sat here worried that our bright young manager, who is building something special here, is going to leave us for a team currently now only 3 places ahead of us in the football league pyramid.

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      That’s crazy. Didn’t realise qpr were doing so well. Certainly shows how good he is in how bad villa have been since he left. Made gerrard look good. Hopefully get some big compensation?

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    2. El Presidente
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Congratulations I really enjoy the way QPR plays ... a shame if he leaves but Wolves are miles ahead as a club and the money must be really good

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        I know, I don’t begrudge him going to Wolves.

        And it’s no surprise Villa are struggling since he left, he was the power behind the throne.

        I just have to trust that the process that made us unearth Beale can work again with the next man. Brentford had to do it and they hit the jackpot with Thomas Frank, so it can be done,

        Just a shame that tonight, of all nights, this has put a dampener on us going top.

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        1. El Presidente
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          I hear you brother. Best of luck mate.

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    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      The odd thing is I've seen a lot of Wolves fans saying they don't want him and feel like it's at best a step sidewards, the allure of a PL team seems very hard to pass up for a lot of people. Hope things work out for you guys, you've deserved to be there IMO (although I hate that you've sent Reading on a losing streak since you beat us a few weeks ago, not that we deserved anything from that game!)

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    4. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I'm liking the idea, the guy seems a superb technician and he speaks Portuguese.

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    5. BoleynWin
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      One of the rare times a manager leaves a club in a better position than when he joined them, if you look at it with a different perspective he deserves the chance to manage at the very top in the beast league worldwide.

      With all due respect to QPRs start to the season, the Champ is a tough league that can change very quickly. I wouldn’t be surprised to see form trail off & other teams lead the promotion race as happens most years with The Hoops falling away. At least now Beale can leave with a legacy intact & move on to bigger and better things.

      Good luck for the season regardless.

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  3. El Presidente
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Salah another incognito performance

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  4. Pat Bonner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Team pretty well set. Save?

    Kepa
    Cancelo trippier guehi
    Salah Bowen foden martinelli
    Haaland Darwin mitrovic

    Ward Andreas dunk neco

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    1. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Easy save. Nice team

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      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers

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    2. Viper
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Pretty much looks like my WC team so good going!

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      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks!

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    3. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nice team !

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      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers, hoping for a big finish before the World Cup. 15 points from top 100

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        1. panda07
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Top 100?! I haven't been this impressed with you Pat since you saved Timoftei's peno!

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  5. Knallie
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Kepa
    TAA Cancelo Trippier Dier
    Saka Foden Martinelli
    Haaland(c) Kane Darwin
    Subs: Ward, Tomiyasu Andreas Almiron

    Good to go? I'm not sure if I should play Trippier over Tomiyasu/Andreas/Almiron?

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    1. PapaWengzz
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Trippier is currently the 4th highest point scorer in the game, is start him

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  6. PapaWengzz
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    If you could only have one this GW:
    A) Foden !(BHA)
    B) Saka (sou)

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    1. Scots Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Foden, just.

      Southampton been a bogey team for Arsenal over the years.

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      1. PapaWengzz
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers

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  7. Viper
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A. Kepa, White, Salah & Mitrovic

    B. Ramsdale, TAA, Bowen & Firmino

    Which combo do you think scores more over the next 4?

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    1. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

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  8. Kane Train
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Which one?

    A) Almiron
    B) Adama Traore
    C) Billing

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    1. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

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  9. afsr
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    A - Bowen -> Saka (-4). Afraid Bowen will lose pens now that he's missed
    B - Andreas -> Saka (-4). Have exact cash for that

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    1. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on the structure of your team. Andreas 5th mid so will you shift to 3-5-2?

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  10. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Don't mean to showoff but I sold Kane for Salah, huge win! 😎

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I did it for a hit 🙂

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      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Your Kepa points pay for that hit, go away! 😉

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        1. Pat Bonner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          🙂

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    2. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Was it for free

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    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I brought in Perisic, Kane and Trossard for '4 this week, what a payoff!

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  11. FOO FIGHTER
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Green arrow even after a -8.

    I was going to bring in Darwin for Kane, oh well. Never watched any matches, how did Salah get on?

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    1. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I didn't watch the game, but he had a few chances to score from what I've read.

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    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      As above. Was quiet due to position.

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  12. Buck The Trent
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Start ?

    A Kepa (MUN)
    B Ward (wol)

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    1. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      This is why I don’t like having two GKs but I am leaning B, Wolves really don’t look like scoring whenever I watch them and Man Utd had 28 shots tonight

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      1. Buck The Trent
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks mate

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    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I have both and going A

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  13. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    I'm past caring at this point, as nothing really pays off. Going for differentials burned me first and after that playing safe didn't really work out either. All 5 transfers after wildcard in GW8 somehow turned out terrible. It's time for -8 or -12 and bringing back Arsenal assets. Let's make FPL fun again, if not else. 🙂

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    1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Just keep caring, that's what separates the humble from the mirror hair flickers.

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    2. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I'm afraid -8 or -12 may be equally frustrating. Just be patient and don't over think things. It's meant to be fun 🙂

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  14. Scholes Out For Summer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Almiron, Neco, Zaha, Trippier (c) doing bits this week

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      That's the winning hand. The Trippier (c) was genius. Well played.

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    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wow

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    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nice one there

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    4. jack88
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Well done with trips.

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    5. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Wow, fair play!

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  15. Bartowski
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Trossard and James to Foden and Gomez?

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    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yep

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      1. KDB4PREZ
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Defo

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  16. Tinslinger
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Firmino or Nunez?

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nunez

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    2. jack88
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      None

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      1. Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Why ?

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    3. KDB4PREZ
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      None

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      1. KDB4PREZ
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Nunez if has ti be 1

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    4. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Did anyone watch the Liverpool game, Nunez could’ve had 3 or 4

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  17. KDB4PREZ
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone tempted by Akanji and go double city defense? Loads of options in midfield but not to many at the back.
    Also city’s attacking points will prob get spread as usually over next few weeks in thinking

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    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Too many options in defence that he can be rotated with for me. I expect Laporte to start getting starts again since he's been fit again to play for a week or so and Stones is expected back soon

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  18. Buck The Trent
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Are people still doing benchw*nkery these days or is it so 2010s?

    Saw Live FPL, 10k auto sub 1 pt vs 19 pts for me

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  19. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    What a waste of a FH

    Oh well

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  20. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Don’t know the scores yet, been too busy following QPR game. MOTD on in a few minutes though so not long to wait now.

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Enjoy!

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  21. FOO FIGHTER
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Why did Nunez only play 56 minutes?

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    1. cigan
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Game management

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      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        They were far worse after Klopp made subs. Bad game management if so.

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        1. cigan
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah this has been a regular thing all season

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        2. El Presidente
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Indeed

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  22. Ajax Hamsterdam
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Would you do
    Kane and gross out for -4 for
    Darwin and foden?

    Cheers

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  23. cigan
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Got exact cash for this WC - activate now or nah?
    Could've had Mitrovic & Robertson for Nunez & White but missed Mitro's price rise last night

    Kepa (Ward)
    Cancelo Trippier White (Guehi Neco)
    Foden Saka Martinelli Zaha (Andreas)
    Haaland Kane Nunez

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Might as well activate it now

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      1. cigan
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Thinking the same, can tinker some more with the ones I'm not completely sold on (mainly White/Nunez/Guehi) after activating

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    2. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Do it

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  24. Ten Hag of Bud
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone else tracking Ronaldo's dummy on flight radar? Currently half way down the east lancs road and about to go supersonic.

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  25. Manani
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    worth taking out Mitrovic for Samacca? Or is that crazy talk?

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Eyeing that one up but think better to wait for 15 & 16 with fixtures

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    2. cigan
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      don't do it

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    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I'd hang on, I like Scamacca a lot but he was very poor tonight, wasted a few good chances and poor decision making, quite slow on the ball too

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  26. FCSB
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Pope
    Cancelo Trippier Perisic
    Salah Mount Rashford Martinelli
    Haaland Mitrovic Toney

    Iversen Andreas Guehi Neco

    1FT, 1.9itb

    For GW13:

    1. Rashford >> Foden / Saka (then 3 GW14)
    2. Mount >> Foden / Saka (then 3 GW14)
    3. Perisic >> Saliba (then 1 or 2 GW14)

    Thanks

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  27. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on best option here please? 2.8mitb. Thanks

    Guaita
    Cancelo trippier zouma (Guaita webster)
    Salah foden zaha trossard (andreas)
    Haaland mitro solanke

    A.....trossard to saka

    B.....trossard to martinelli

    C.....trossard and solanke to martinelli and jesus - 4

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I like C

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      1. Flynny
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers.

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  28. FOO FIGHTER
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Martinelli or Saka?

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    1. Kane Train
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Saka

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    2. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Both good, saka better option but not much in it so depends what you can do with the extra cash if going martinelli

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    3. cigan
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Why not both?
      If you can only get 1 it's easy - Martinelli if you already have him (and got him on the cheap); Saka if you have neither

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    4. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Saka possibly worth paying the extra for Pens but over 4 games he’d be lucky to get one.

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  29. Kane Train
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Which one?

    A) KDB + Almiron
    B) Foden + Saka

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    1. Pat Bonner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

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    2. cigan
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      B

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  30. HollywoodXI
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Right Sterling is definitely out this week. For who?

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    1. Goooo Rickie
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He should start vs Utd. Maybe just keep?

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      1. Kane Train
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Nah he’s done nothing. Not worth his price tag

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    2. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I’d keep as should be nailed for this weekend at least.

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      1. HollywoodXI
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        United looked good tonight and Chelsea still look like a team in transition. Sterling looks on the fringes.

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    3. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thing is, there are peeps like me about to bring him in, because we understand the Mad Potter.
      Do you really want to do that and potentially shoot yourself in the foot with the rebound off the concrete floor directly impacting your brain.
      ?

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