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There’s one more Gameweek 17 match to go before Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers get their sole rest day ahead of back-to-back Gameweeks.

Leeds United v Manchester City is the fixture in question, with kick-off at Elland Road set for 20:00 GMT.

It’s almost entirely about the visitors from an FPL perspective, with only one member of Leeds’ starting XI, bench fodder’s Sam Greenwood, owned by more than 2% of Fantasy managers.

Five City assets boast double-digit ownerships, by contrast, but two of them, Joao Cancelo and Phil Foden, aren’t part of Pep Guardiola’s line-up tonight.

In fact, only two of the eight City players who reached the quarter-finals of the 2022 FIFA World Cup with Portugal or England make the team this evening.

It’s John Stones and Jack Grealish who get the nod, with Kyle Walker, Bernardo Silva, Foden, Cancelo and the newly portly Kalvin Phillips on the bench.

Ruben Dias is injured.

Above: FPL assets sorted by ‘effective ownership’ in the top 10k (via LiveFPL)

Guardiola has largely gone with the same team that defeated Liverpool in the EFL Cup last Thursday, making three changes: Stefan Ortega, Aymeric Laporte and Cole Palmer are replaced by Ederson, Stones and Grealish.

Jesse Marsch has got a number of his injured and ill players back this evening, including Illan Meslier and Rodrigo.

Patrick Bamford misses out and Crysencio Summerville, who like Rodrigo has scored three goals in as many league matches, is only on the bench.

GAMEWEEK 17 LINE-UPS

Leeds United XI: Meslier, Kristensen, Struijk, Koch, Cooper, Forshaw, Roca, Greenwood, Gnonto, Rodrigo, Aaronson.

Subs: Robles, Ayling, Firpo, Llorente, Gyabi, Klich, Summerville, Harrison, Gelhardt.

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Lewis, Akanji, Stones, Ake, Rodri, Gundogan, De Bruyne, Grealish, Haaland, Mahrez.

Subs: Ortega, Walker, Phillips, Cancelo, Laporte, Bernardo, Gomez, Foden, Palmer.


GAMEWEEK 17 RESULTS SO FAR

Manchester United3 – 0Nottingham Forest
Chelsea2 – 0Bournemouth
Arsenal3 – 1West Ham United
Aston Villa1 – 3Liverpool
Southampton1 – 3Brighton and Hove Albion
Leicester City0 – 3Newcastle United
Everton1 – 2Wolverhampton Wanderers
Crystal Palace0 – 3Fulham
Brentford2 – 2Tottenham Hotspur

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  1. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Games coming thick and fast, some painful rotation for us all no doubt 🙂

    1. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Standard Xmas!

  2. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Roll free transfer and see what 2 transfers do next gameweek ?

    Ramsdale
    Trippier Cancelo Robbo
    Martinelli Almirón Salah Rashford Nketiah Haaland Darwin

    Ward Andreas Bueno Castagne

    1. FCHaalandaise
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      100%

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yup

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers

  3. HurriKane
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is Cancelo prone to Pep roulette now?

    Given how good Ake has played at LB last two games i think there could be increased rotation

    Especially when CL returns.

    Walker Akanji and Stones could rotate at RB position

    1. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      * Add Rico Lewis to the fullback options

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      100%

  4. Attaka
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    So I'm gonna be on a flight from like 8am on the 1st... really want to punt on Gakpo. What are the chances he's added to the game before I go off the grid? (H2H Draft league)

    1. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      New yr for me

  5. Babit1967
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Any moves here lads or just rip an ft

    Ederson
    Robbo Shaw Trippier
    Salah KDB Saka Almiron Andreas
    Haaland Martia

    Ward Saliba Greenwood Castagne

    0.2 itb

    1. Babit1967
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Save not rip, weird autocorrect lol

    2. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Roll FT

    3. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Roll on!

  6. Nightf0x
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Kepa (ward)
    Saliba walker triper (shaw james)
    Rash almiron martineli zaha (tross)
    Mitro haland darwin

    Which?

    A) james to cucu, gw19 zaha to kdb
    B) james to botman/akanji/azpi/chalobah/under 5.0, gw19 zaha to salah
    C) james to robbo, gw19 zaha to madds/rodrigo/gundo
    D) roll ft, gw19 zaha james out

    1. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Morning Nightfox - seeing move in your squad with James & Zaha
      I would go with option A (possible pause KDB to GW20 & look at
      Double Game week options")

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A

  7. GW18 Fixture and clean sheet odds
    G-Whizz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    GW18 fixture odds can be found here:
    Tomorrow: https://prnt.sc/265X6PtiDbvF
    New Year's Eve: https://prnt.sc/-k0DrEjgJjZN
    New Year's Day: https://prnt.sc/Jo7YZTlJ54Rg
    (Provided by Ladbrokes.com)

    GW17 clean sheets:
    MNU: 52% ✅
    CHE: 50% ✅
    ARS:43% ❌
    MNC: 43% ❌
    BHA: 34% ❌
    CRY: 34% ❌
    EVE: 34% ❌
    LIV: 34% ❌
    TOT: 32% ❌
    NEW: 29% ✅
    WOL: 28% ❌
    SOU: 24% ❌
    FUL: 22% ✅
    LEI: 22% ❌
    BRE: 21% ❌
    WHU: 16% ❌
    AST: 15% ❌
    BOU: 12% ❌
    NFO: 12% ❌
    LEE: 9% ❌

    Weekly highest clean sheet % odds current success rate: 52.6% (up 2.6% from the previous GW)

    GW18 clean sheet odds:
    MNC: 56%
    LIV: 45%
    CHE: 43%
    NEW: 43%
    TOT: 40%
    MNU: 38%
    WHU: 36%
    CRY: 32%
    ARS:29%
    FUL: 29%
    BOU: 28%
    BRE: 22%
    BHA: 22%
    WOL: 21%
    SOU: 19%
    NFO: 19%
    AST: 17%
    LEE: 14%
    LEI: 10%
    EVE: 6%
    (Provided by CheckTheChance.com)

    Clean sheet totals:
    Newcastle: 8 (+1)
    Arsenal: 7
    Manchester City: 6
    Man Utd: 6 (+1)
    Chelsea: 5 (+1)
    Leicester: 5
    Bournemouth: 4
    Brentford: 4
    Brighton: 4
    Everton: 4
    Fulham: 4 (+1)
    Liverpool: 4
    Nottingham Forest: 4
    Tottenham: 4
    Wolves: 4
    Aston Villa: 3
    Crystal Palace: 3
    West Ham: 3
    Leeds: 2
    Southampton: 1

    *(+1) denotes team kept a clean sheet in the past GW.

    Happy New Year everyone, and remember, never ever bench Trippier 😆

    G

    1. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Brilliant stats thanks G-Whizz

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Hope they treat you right 🙂

        1. Kellz86
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Cheers!

          1. G-Whizz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            You're welcome and good luck!

  8. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Thoughts on Perisic as a James replacement?

    1. The Ilfordian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I like him, as was noted on a podcast I heard yesterday, he’s only a hammy away from being part of Spurs’ front line and he proved his fitness during the World Cup and then coming straight back to training. However, Spurs’ defence is not good so he’s there for attacking points

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Gd as any

    3. agueroooooney
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I like him but Spurs defence is so bad it's hard to go there

  9. PartyTime
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Think I have been chosen to break Almiron. You guys should kindly note this, I brought in Almiron & that means only one thing, the Almiron party is over.

    1. Maliwizzy
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Bench him like I did for Mitro and he should do well.

  10. jack88
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Kepa
    White trippier shaw
    Kdb salah almiron rashford martinelli
    Haaland darwin

    Ward patterson bueno greenwood

    Looks ok?

    1. Kellz86
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Of course enjoy!

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Gtg. Burn Darwin next week!

  11. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    How many Chelsea players will you have for GW19?

    How many Spurs players will you have for GW20?

    1. Kellz86
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Targeting 2 Chelsea for 19 (have Kepa already and will likely do Zaha to Mount)

      Targeting 2 Spurs for 20
      (have Kane and Doherty already)

      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        That’s a sensible approach, I think 2 from each is enough. Kepa + Mount for me with Kane + another.

      2. Kellz86
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Side note: Sterling just not performing given his position under Potter and his current price.

        I’d rather have Havertz over Mount but I won’t break my forward line of Haaland, Kane, Mitrovic

        1. Count of Monte Hristo
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Really wish Havertz was listed as a midfielder in the game for a situation like this.

          1. Kellz86
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah agreed

    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Probabaly two Chelsea (already have Azip) and 2 Fulham (have Andreas and Mitro for GW19), and Kane (if not suspended) and 3 City (already have Cancelo and Haaaland) for GW20 if it is a DGW. Salah to KDB will probably be my move.

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Kepa not Azip

    3. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      0 Chelsea
      2 Spurs (Kane, Kulu)

  12. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    100 pt game week but KDB blank is mehh

    G2g? Safe FT?

    Kepa
    Shaw Tripps White
    Salah KDB Rashford Almiron
    Haaland (c) Martial Wilson
    - Ward James Andreas Bueno

  13. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    James to Cucurella?

    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      No.

      1. kysersosa
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Why not?

  14. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Brought in Trippier for James last night. Don’t ask.

    Now I have to bench one of Botman, Shaw or White.

    White first on bench right?

    1. Coupes
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

  15. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is Salah a better pick than KDB or it just depends on the GW and it’s to just pick one and stick?

    1. The Tinkerman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I have KDB and am sticking

      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Good plan, I think I have been yo-yoing between the two since the start of the season and it hasn’t worked.

    2. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Salah better with pens and takes so many more shots. KDB played like a holding mid yesterday. But not worth a switch with DGW coming up. Swap to Salah after.

    3. Sandy Ravage
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Get both then no headaches

    4. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Impossible question! Kdb been better most of season but salah has low hit form. I have kdb atm

  16. C-Dawgg
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Looking at that Chelsea squad is Aspi the only one who can play right back?

    1. The Tinkerman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Loftus Cheek fills in there

      1. C-Dawgg
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        But that’s a wing back in a 3-5-2 isn’t it? Potter loves his back 4

    2. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Hudson Odoi.

      1. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        It will be very difficult for Leverkusen player to make Chelsea squad:) or maybe his loan has been cancelled?

  17. The Tinkerman
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Who to prioritise replacing:

    A) Wilson
    B) James

    I’m also slightly worried about Cancelo’s minutes all of a sudden.

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A.

    2. LAMELA_AND_CONSUELA
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      James. Wilson is ill, so maybe he will be ready for next GW.

    3. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      James all day.

    4. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      James

    5. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      James

  18. Weak Become Heros
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    City love throwing away a clean sheet.

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yep.

  19. Over Midwicket
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    James* to anyone for -4 or play Patterson or Bueno (mci or MUN)?

    Thinking it could pay off long-term.. Robbo? Cancelo/Akanji? A Newcastle defender? Cucu? Shaw?

    Have Tripps. White. Patterson. Bueno.

    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Robbo long term. Shaw looks good short term and should be back at LB next game.

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Drop James next week. Have some more stats to base your switch on

  20. Sheffield Wednesday
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Wondered how much game-time my £16.2M bench fodder would get:

    Ward (£4.1M) 90 mins
    Patterson (4.0M) 90 mins
    Bueno (£3.9M) 58 mins
    Greenwood (£4.2M) 90 mins & set pieces & assist.

    Pretty happy with that - just got to get the order right if one of my starters gets an unannounced illness again.

  21. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Shaw or Dalot for long term?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Shaw. Dalot injured.

    2. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Luke

    3. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Wait for team news. I'd get Dalot over Shaw if he is fit.

      1. Rojo's Modern Life
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Dalot is a bonus point magnet

  22. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Why is Zinchenko not nailed anymore?

    1. La Roja
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He had injury issues hence not nailed on for the time being

  23. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Although kdb instead of Salah hurt this week, will keep and sell James instead.

    Who would you prefer as a James replacement?

    A) Shaw
    B) Cucurella
    C) Perisic
    D) Botman

    1. Cornholi0
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      C

    2. MBK 42
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’ve just done A

    3. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I'd love Perisic but just can't trust his minutes.

      1. aapoman
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        So I'm saying B

    4. DavvaMC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A or D

  24. Gazzpfc
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    What’s best

    Cucurella and Foden
    Cancelo and Martenelli

    ???

    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Cancelo & Martinelli.

    2. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Think I'll have the cheeseburger instead.

    3. aapoman
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Cancelo and Martinelli easily

    4. No Professionals
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Second one, not even close

  25. aapoman
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Bah another red arrow, 4th in a row. Getting rid of James but who for? Thinking between Cucurella, Botman and Shaw. Got 0.0itb

    Ederson
    Trippier Gabriel James*
    Salah Foden Trossard Rashford Martinelli
    Haaland Darwin

    Ward; Castagne, Patterson, Greenwood

    1. No Professionals
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Cucurella for the double I think

  26. No Professionals
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Kepa
    Cancelo Trippier White
    KDB Saka Rashford Almiron
    Haaland Darwin Martial

    Ward Andreas Bueno James
    0.4m

    A) James to Cucurella
    B) martial to mitrovic
    C) roll

    1. MBK 42
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I’d be tempted by B

      1. No Professionals
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah I’m tempted by B, makes sense for the double after, just concerned on whether or not he starts all 3. Martial came off early so surely starts

    2. _Gunner
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I'd be tempted by B.
      I am in the same position and thinking about rolling the transfer

  27. _Gunner
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Morning All, G2G?

    Kepa
    Trippier Cancelo Shaw
    Salah Martinelli Rashfod Kulu
    Haaland Martial Darwin

    subs: Ward Andreas White Peraud

  28. Francescoli
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Where did everyone go from this site? Pages used to fly by in years gone by. Should I be on a Discord or something like that?

  29. NotsoSpursy
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    James to
    A. Cucurella
    B. Shaw

    I’m on A due to dgw

  30. tibollom
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    what to do with James guys? 1 FT 0.2 ITB

    Kepa Ward
    james trippier white bueno walker
    kdb rash almiron marti kulu
    haaland darwin martial