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14 January 2023 1409 comments
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The Manchester derby is the first Premier League match of the day and kicks off at Old Trafford at 12:30pm GMT.

United and City are two of the four clubs who ‘double’ in Gameweek 20 and have been well-backed by Fantasy Premier League managers as a result: three of the top four most-bought players ahead of Friday’s deadline came from the these two teams.

The names in question were Luke Shaw, Marcus Rashford and Kevin De Bruyne, and all of them start this afternoon.

As for the rest of the team news, Anthony Martial is fit enough to start for the hosts at Old Trafford.

Shaw stays at centre-half, with Tyrell Malacia at left-back, while Fred comes in to bolster the midfield at the expense of the benched Antony.

Three City players who have struggled for Premier League game-time since the World Cup, Kyle Walker, Joao Cancelo and Phil Foden, are the only three survivors from the side that lost to Southampton in the Carabao Cup in midweek.

Foden is back on the left flank at the expense of Jack Grealish, while Walker and Cancelo’s deployment at full-back means that there is no place for Rico Lewis.

Aymeric Laporte is also among the substitutes.

GAMEWEEK 20 TEAM NEWS

Manchester United XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Shaw, Varane, Malacia, Fred, Casemiro, Eriksen, Fernandes, Rashford, Martial.

Subs: Heaton, Lindelof, Maguire, Martinez, Antony, Elanga, McTominay, Garnacho, Mainoo.

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Walker, Ake, Akanji, Cancelo, Rodri, De Bruyne, Silva, Mahrez, Foden, Haaland.

Subs: Ortega, Phillips, Gundogan, Grealish, Laporte, Alvarez, Gomez, Palmer, Lewis.



  1. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Eras come to an end

  2. Ruinenlust
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    I told y’all Cancelo would start

    1. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah twice

      1. Ruinenlust
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Shame y’all didn’t listen to me

    2. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Alright yank

    3. stooshermadness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Your brilliance has been a beacon of inspiration for all of us.

  3. shirtless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Own up then who sold Cancelo and Foden and brought in Lewis?

    Delighted at the Martial news!

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I would have kept Cancelo but I couldn't get from Nunez to Kane in one move.

      Zoph with his ridiculous team value is laughing.

    2. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Done Cancelo to Akanji to afford Darwin to Kane

    3. AutoFill 2021
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Sold cancelo to fund Kane and Rashford for a -4, happy at the moment but only time will tell.

  4. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Lots of big calls in the predicted line ups were wrong 🙁

    Foden usually starts the big game clashes.

    And "game changer" Lewis wasn't brought on against Southampton when City needed goals. The clues were there!

    1. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Hindsight warrior

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Sam Lee also said to me that he expected Cancelo back.

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Plus Walker is usually used to cover fast paced attackers like Rashford and Son.

    3. stooshermadness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I kept Cancelo because I couldn't see selling one of the highest scoring defenders in the game ahead of a DGW. But I kept him more in hope than expectation given all of Pep's mind games.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Despite what Luke said on the wire, there's no point trying to predict Pep. When you figure out the logic and the pattern, he then creates new logic and starts a new pattern.

        1. stooshermadness
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          He's too clever for his own - and his team's - good way too often.

  5. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Good news for rashford or martial triple cappers with cancelo starting

    Defence significantly weaker

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      This must have been the crazy idea pep was talking about

      1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Hahaha

  6. Pariße
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Antony benched I didn’t expect that. I never had to sell Cancelo either…

  7. el polako
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Foden patient owners(all 3 of them) to be rewarded.

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Cancelo keepers too

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yes but not today as all of Foden's points come at home so they will have to wait until Thursday for Spurs game

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      He owes them 85pts and counting.

    4. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Scored a hattrick last time vs. Utd!

  8. sentz05
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Cancelo starts - absolute scenes. Why on earth so many of you transferred him out is beyond me.

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Many did it to free up funds to make other transfers.

    2. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Jinx

    3. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Not worth his price

    4. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Lmao brainless comment

    5. Essan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      to free up funds and because ManC don;t keep clean sheets anymore. Cancello is just too expensive even for a guaranteed 2pt a week

    6. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Because so many of you and FPL experts told us so. Now stop it Mr Hindsight.

    7. MissouriMarten
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Because he's been s***e?

    8. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Recently 2, 6, - 2, 1, 1, 0, 1 from a 7.3m defender. No thanks.

    9. JELLYFISH
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I kept him for the dgw but he’s still on my sack list to leave my team over the next few.

  9. Limbo
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Despite the noise here stuck with Cancelo. Can see 2 1 pointers coming now...

    1. MissouriMarten
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      If he plays both...

      1. Limbo
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Well indeed.

  10. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Heavy snow predicted next week. Imagine if City and Haaland only get 1 game.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      A pessimist is never disappointed.

    2. Pipermaru
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I would not be surprised. There's often funny stuff happening with TC'd players if I recall correctly. Injuries, early substitutions, subpar performances...it happened before.

      1. ryskal
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yes, because everyone knows they are a direct consequence of triple-captainment. The weather is in on this conspiracy, too!

        1. Pipermaru
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I'm not saying they are consequences and conspiracies, don't put words into my mouth. I'm playing that game long enough to see that "obvious" and "the best choice" often does not work that way for whatever reasons (mainly because it is sport so it's a bit unpredictable).

    3. BobbyV
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I will love it…and I think I deserve

  11. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Cancelo is still a risk of a halftime sub or before the 60th minute.....just saying

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Probably gets an 18 pointer. That would be pure FPL.

    2. JELLYFISH
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Or after 60 before manure score

  12. SKENG
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    My Martinez punt does not look that smart now.

    1. TheBiffas
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Aye same

      1. SKENG
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Think it's lack of match fitness or just tactical?

        1. MBK 42
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Or the fact that he’s 5’7’’ and Haaland would monster him?

          1. Mirror Man
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Don't talk to me about monstering, I've had enough horse meat for one month. Turned my innards into Weetabix.

            • SKENG
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              That would be tactical

    2. Bollard
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      5pts up already on all those that took Cancelo out for a hit

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Only if they have gone for a non-City/United defender (Stones/Lewis aside).

        -4 otherwise 🙂

    3. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Reckon Stones injury had a positive effect on Cancelo statt chance %?

      Rico @ RB needs Ake/Laporte at LB?l (Assuming he donest play in same XI, in same back four as Cancelo due to playstyle).

      Leaves Ake/Akanji/Lapote in XI with no CBs on the bench. Not ideal when Laporte on just returning himself. Cancelo being able to play LB or RB helpful in this sort of circumstance.

      Maybe Walker at CB was a way to get around that, but we saw how that didn't fare too well vs. SOU in the cup (not that Cancelo was great either!)

      Probs chatting rubbish, but fun to argue a reasoning. Of course Stones could be back next fixture to reset all this too anyway 🙂

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        And of course Walker to cover Rashford/Son was likely the bigger important & balancing that on the other side!

      2. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Decent logic to the above. Could well be the case.

      3. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Agree - stones out force Pep hand to give Cancelo start
        City defence not as good as normal this season

    4. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Anyone else not have a Liverpool player in their team for the first time in several seasons?

      Feels weird.

      And like a bad idea.

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        o/

      2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I have Darwin so yes.

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Klopp confirmed he was out yesterday?

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Didn't say that actually. Said if he didn't train that day, he would be out. We don't know if he trained - but been some sources he hasn't travelled.

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              I watched the press conference live and in full. He confirmed he was out twice.

              1. Hazz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                1st time he answered like it was a stupid question from the journalists, as if they were to know what/how bad the injury was.

                2nd time it was less outright - said 4 offensive players were out & would be back soon (incl. Darwin), but not tomorrow.

                Will condede this second part does give you the answer but it was less clear & surprised less journalists quoted it. It's a bit reading between the lines rather than Klopp properly saying Darwin was out.

                1. FPL Virgin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Nah. He properly said it twice. Neale covered it in the hot topics.

          2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Didn’t want to take a hit to bring him out. So now it’s Saliba that plays instead. Oh well

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              You did the right thing using your bench like that

              1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
                • 12 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Cheers! Is he likely to be back vs Chelsea?

                1. FPL Virgin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Bench at best.

        2. Jafooli
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Lol

      3. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Easy to get them if you really need. Even KDB > Salah is 1 FT. Not too worried with their form as it is, especially since ownership % lower too.

      4. FCHaalandaise
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yup none here

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Feels strange, right?

      5. Gubby-Allen
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I have not had Salah the whole season. Bought him during the WC break, only as I had about 15m for one more midfielder.

        He is first sub today though.

        1. Gubby-Allen
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          No other Liverpool.

      6. Mirror Man
          3 years, 2 months ago

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        • Big Mac 24
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Present ✋

        • FPL Brains
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I had to actually double check but I've not had Pool; GW9-11 and now this GW.

          You are right though, after about 10 years, it's just been 3 GWs.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            It's dangerous. Liverpool still near the top for all the key attacking metrics. They are going to score multiple goals in games.

            1. stooshermadness
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              I had Nunez from GW2 to GW18. Finally lost patience. Salah's price is a bit too much. But as a Liverpool fan it feels really strange not to have any Liverpool in my FPL team.

      7. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        A bit annoyed with myself that I didn’t have the guts to go Rashford(c). Honestly believe he will outscore Haaland this GW.

        1. MissouriMarten
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Same here and hoping I'm wrong. But if Haaland goes crazy, the damage would've been huge, particularly with all the TCs in play.

      8. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        What’s happened to Ted Talks and Sam this season? Seem to have disappeared...!

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Az may have cancelled the Ted Talks show due to low viewership.

          1. shirtless
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I guess so but he’s not even doing his own channel either now.

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Hope he's okay 🙁

        2. Amsterhammer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          They may have just moved on with their lives.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Unlikely. FPL is an addiction.

      9. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Wildcard going well.

        Rodrigo blank.
        Cancelo starts over Lewis.

        Well done Badger, well done.

        1. PogChamp
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          lol my WC always end in disaster too

        2. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          You can't just a Wildcard after 0.10 gameweeks

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            *judge

        3. Gubby-Allen
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          But you didn't play Digne over Salah and Nketiah.

        4. MissouriMarten
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          This game certainly has many ways of kicking you in the nuts.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            You missed out the word "repeatedly" in that sentence

        5. Pipermaru
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Wildcard is not for one week only.

      10. FPL Bond @ Twitter
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Took our Foden & Cancelp for -8.. Haha..

        1. Botman and Robben
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          For who? The new guys might outscore those.

          1. FPL Bond @ Twitter
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Mahrez & Akanji. Didn't think they will start..

      11. Gubby-Allen
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Only 24 minutes until Haaland goes off injured.

        1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Ban

          1. Gubby-Allen
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            He is my TC. I think the most that I have got out of a TC is 78 minutes over two games.

            I can't remember the last time one even played in the second game.

            1. TheBiffas
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              You didn't play the Alexis Sanchez season?

              1. Gubby-Allen
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                I will have done. Will check back. What happened then?

      12. AutoFill 2021
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Haaland to sit on Shaw, think there will be goals!

      13. aleksios
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        First time with 6 players on a single match.
        Weird.

        1. evilfish
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Only five for me, just relieved they're all starting.

        2. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Our attackers from both teams needs lots of goals and our defenders from both teams needs clean sheets .......

      14. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        If (and it’s a big if) Cancelo performs today, he’ll likely start vs Spurs and suddenly he’s back at Peps key swapping parties.

        1. Qaiss
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Cancelo vs Kulusevski, I will enjoy that one as a Kulusevski owner

        2. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          watching the players in the tunnel, Cancelo looked so nervous … just saying.

      15. Haa-lala-land
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Predictions
        United 0 - 0 City

        1. Gubby-Allen
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          That is mine too...

          ... await a goal in the first 30 seconds.

        2. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Doubt it but would be a decent enough result not playing the TC and having held Cancelo!

      16. Gubby-Allen
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        What is the likelihood of Martinez not getting on today or in midweek?

        1. FPL Brains
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Low imo.

        2. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Sounds like he may even sub on today.

          https://twitter.com/utd_spot/status/1614236084916961280

          1. Gubby-Allen
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Thanks. Clean sheet now was a long shot anyway. More for midweek.

      17. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Why did I get Shaw lool didn’t know he gonna play CB?

        1. Mirror Man
            3 years, 2 months ago

            You won't be saying that after he bullies Haaland for 90 minutes and scoops maximum bonus points.

          • TheBiffas
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            It's fine he's a bonus magnet at CB

        2. shirtless
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          450,000 Haaland triple cappers.

          1. Mirror Man
              3 years, 2 months ago

              450,000 errors which will hopefully lead to at least 155,000 new subscribers to my organization.

              - We do the thinking so you don't have to.
              - Top 26k finishes guaranteed.
              - 200 seasons of experience*

              *Experts may have anywhere from 3-5 seasons of experience.

              1. TheBiffas
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Every time you promote this I'm more and more tempted!

          2. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Erling Kevin and Mahrez please go nuts.

            1-6 or something

          3. GENERATION X
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Hardly Keane and Viera in the tunnel

            1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Modern day snowflakes

          4. Shark Team
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Time to watch this overrated ManU team who won some relegation fighting teams recently