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Double Gameweek 20 of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) continues at 16:30 GMT on Sunday, as north London rivals Tottenham Hotspur and Arsenal go head-to-head.

Antonio Conte makes three changes to the Spurs side that beat Crystal Palace 4-0 in Gameweek 19, with Ryan Sessegnon, Pape Sarr and Dejan Kulusevski coming in for Ivan Perisic, Oliver Skipp and Bryan Gil, all of whom drop to the bench.

Richarlison, meanwhile, is also named among the substitutes after suffering an injury with Brazil during the World Cup, but Rodrigo Bentancur misses out.

As for Arsenal, they are unchanged, with Bukayo Saka shaking off the knock he sustained at Oxford in the FA Cup on Monday.

GAMEWEEK 20 LINE-UPS

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Romero, Dier, Lenglet, Doherty, Hojbjerg, Sarr, Sessegnon, Kulusevski, Son, Kane

Subs: Forster, Sanchez, Royal, Davies, Bissouma, Skipp, Perisic, Richarlison, Gil

Arsenal XI: Ramsdale, White, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko, Partey, Odegaard, Xhaka, Saka, Martinelli, Nketiah

Subs: Turner, Tierney, Holding, Tomiyasu, Smith Rowe, Vieira, Smith, Sambi, Marquinhos

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  1. putana
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    who knew that doing havertz -> Kane (-4) would have been the wrong decision

    1. Tinkermania
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      At least you have survived the suspension.
      I just couldn't against the top 2 teams in the league and a match ban hanging over him!

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      You still have a 2nd roll of the dice with Kane.

  2. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I’m going to keep going on about it.

    In fact, I’m going to write a stern email.

    #GiveSakaThatAssist

    1. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Get a life

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        We can’t all have the love of chocolate.

        Some of us rely on points being given fairly.

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      They might change their mind.

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Come on TM, that’s an assist all day.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah, if I was an owner, I'd be claiming it.
          Pinball etc.

    3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I can normally in similar situations say I can see why ones were or weren't given but it really doesn't seem consistent, I've seen a fair few assists given for nothing this season so why not one for that. I dunno, I've had a good week so far so probably shouldn't complain but I've had a lot of rivals make ground ahead of me from dodgy calls, wouldn't have minded one that seemed straightforward helping me claw back

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        It’s incredibly frustrating.

        I’ve been stung by a few poor decisions this year. Kulusevski one recently. This one is by far the worst though.

        If an arsenal player heads it in, it’s an assist. But lloris puts it in - so why no assist?

      2. bench boost for every gamew…
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Sess touched it, deflection which then is scuffed over the line by Lloris. If it was a shot on goal it would have stood.

        1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          If Sessegnon's deflection was the issue then it should have just been his OG surely as Lloris failed to save it? It was given as a Lloris OG which to me says simply that he fumbled in from something going away from goal. I wouldn't really care much normally and could get it but it's the fact you'll see someone else get an assist for the same thing (or something even less deserving) another week

    4. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      How was that an assist? It was crossed backwards away from goal, then hit Sessegnon and completely changed direction towards Lloris.

      Then again, that was NOT a missed penalty by Mitro! 😆

    5. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Done the same about Mitro goal

    6. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Anyone think FPL should just give points for 'real' assists awarded by Opta, rather than the dubious shot bounces off two players etc

      1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Probably. But they don’t, so should be consistent.

        The whole points system needs a revamp to be honest. The bps system is ridiculous.

      2. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yes but also include the set piece assists still

  3. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Congratulations Arsenal fans. You have won the league.

    1. ☈☾
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Calm down, they still have to face City twice

    2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Easy now. It was only Spurs

  4. JohnnyCroat
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I'll take that point off the bench. Loving it.
    Rashford for a hattrick next up?

  5. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Darwin becomes Saliba 😎

    Oh wait Azpis 1 minute blocks it…

  6. Tic Tacs
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Toney in for Mitro this week for a -4 paid off in the end, a tale of two penalties...

  7. banskt
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Arsenal wins the league after 20 years. Liverpool won the league after 30 years. Time for Everton to revive their record to stay in the top 4 of 'total titles won'?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe why they're trying to go down again.

      1. banskt
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        To come back stronger. They need a reboot.

  8. Superflymonk
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Yikes! Kepa -`10pts Andreas -2pts White - 8pts and Bueno -6 points on the bench. Man, these DGW players better come through the 2nd rd.

    1. JohnnyCroat
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Ederson in goal? Can't think who you'd have otherwise.

  9. bso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    62 pts and 56K…I’m in dreamland, even if Kane let me down. Was 287K in GW 18.

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      team link ?

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Nice one that

    3. JohnnyCroat
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Nice climb. On an upward march myself. 67 w/6 doubles to finish. Would expect 5 of them to play. Might gets me top 1m.

      1. bso
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Good job, you’ll get there!

  10. EL_FENOMENO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Who should start next week:
    a) Shaw
    b) White

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Im on Saliba over Shaw at this moment
      If Shaw goes to fullback Wednesday Ill switch

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Ten Hag will love his decision to play Shaw at CB too much

  11. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Give Mitro (TOT) another GW? Could get a brace against this TOT team!

    1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'm struggling to think who to bench for him, can't bench him against this defence surely

  12. ☈☾
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    People need to calm down before saying Arsenal have won the league.

    They need to face City twice and if the lose both, City will be close by 2 points

    1. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      More chance of whooping Citeh in both games...

    2. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      The way Manchester City is playing, they can already give the trophy to Arsenal.

    3. Ron_Swanson
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      So Arsenal can afford to lose to City twice and still be ahead of them?! They’ve won the league!

  13. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Mitrovic owners,keep or sell?

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Same Q, see above

      1. Old Wulfrunian
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yes Zico.I am thinking to sell him for Wilson/Toney or Bamford if Leeds has a dgw.

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep surely against this Spurs defence, think I'll move to Nketiah for the double though

    3. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      For my team, he isn't a priority sell

    4. Nuka Girl
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Who to at that price range?
      Possibles not having amazing fixtures.

      1. Sun Jihai
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Toney

    5. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I sold him for Kane this week but surely you keep Mitrovic against the gift of a spurs defence then re-assess

    6. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep against spurs defence next week at home & then assess.

    7. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      There's no priority sell in my team. Whereas, Brighton mids are a priority buy.

      So, I will play it aggressive and sell one of my mids -- KDB, Mahrez or Almiron.

  14. Fred54
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Did Ramsdale have an altercation with a fan? Sky Sports only cut to the incident late on...

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Spurs fan kicked out at him as he picked up his towel and bottle.

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      A fan tried to boot him but he didn’t make any contact, nothing serious

      1. chocolove
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        It did contact.

    3. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I think Richarlison the one that start it

      1. chocolove
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Spurs fan react because Richarlison provoked Ramsdale.

      2. Fred54
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Nah I think Richa was actually trying to help for a change...

        1. Fred54
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Or maybe not...

        2. chocolove
          • 15 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Lol.

      1. chocolove
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Ric is a thug

      2. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks for feed - will or should Spurs be fined or worse?

      3. Brehmeren
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Non owner spotted

    4. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Looked like a kid tried to kick him, but the steward pushed him away and he scarpered back into the stands.

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Regardless if the person made contact, classless from the Spurs fan and hope he gets banned

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Agree

      2. Ron_Swanson
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        He did kick him

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          You're right, there was contact. I was wrong. I've just seen the other angle.

    5. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Sky Sports just showed it in full. I thought Ramsdale was attacked by a fan running into the pitch but it was Richa who was giving him stick for kissing the badge in front of Spurs fans.
      Then Ramsdale foolishly has his stuff close to the Spurs fans and gets kicked by a fan who jumped onto the barrier. Nevermind a football ban, that fan could have a custodial sentence.

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Ramsdale in his right to celebrate after getting abuse from the Spurs fans throughout the 2nd half. I'm afraid the stewards failed at their job.

  15. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Arsenal are ferocious. So much pressure. They just don’t stop.

    The other big clubs (besides Man Utd) look fat and happy.

    1. El Presidente
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Indeed, I've talked about it. Their pressing and positioning without the ball is absolutely incredible, the best I've ever seen. It's almost perfect.

  16. Gazwaz80
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Triple (c)ooked chips are my favourite, unless they’ve been burnt…

  17. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Any better Cucu replacement than Botman?

    1. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Assuming you already have Trippier and Arsenal def then probably Botman is the pick

      1. Tonyawesome69
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Forgot to include Shaw

      2. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yep Trippier and White, ta!

    2. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Schar

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Worth 0.5 more?

        1. Yank Revolution
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Yup

    3. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I am thinking Colwill or someone from ManCity.

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah BHA, Dunk and Estupinan are on my list

    4. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      If you don't want to double up, Brighton defense is a definite possibility. Keep an eye on possible GW25 blank for Newcastle, Brighton, Man United and Brentford.

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I will ignore the blank atm with Almiron is on the brink of getting out of my team, cheers for reminding ...

    5. WVA
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Schar

      1. TheFridge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I’m debating Botman or Schar. The former lets me get from Mitro to Toney or something similar, which would be nice. Schar even then?
        A. Botman
        B. Schar

        Kepa, Ward
        Trippier, Shaw, ____, Bueno, Patterson
        KDB, Martinelli, Rashford, Almiron, Odegaard
        Haaland, Kane, and Mitro

  18. rozzo
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kepa Ward
    Trippier Shaw White Beuno Patterson
    KDB Rashford Martinelli Odegaard Almiron
    Haaland Kane Mitrovic

    1ft
    2m itb

    A). Mitrovic to Toney
    B). Kepa to Pope
    C). Patterson to Schar
    D). Anything else

    Cheers

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      A i guess but Mitro probably gets something most weeks, very unlucky today

    2. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      B

  19. WVA
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Need to sell Cucurella but want to sell Mitrovic for Toney 🙁

    1. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Cucurella is a priority sell unless you can bench him.

      1. WVA
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I can bench him

        1. banskt
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          If there's no priority sell, get your priority buy. If that is Toney, then so be it.

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Cucu first imo

    3. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Mitro will probably score against this horrible Tot defence

  20. Steevo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Time to bite the bullet & buy Odegaard?

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Could buy for Andreas but leaves a serious benching headache every week

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Same, considering for Almiron instead

        1. WVA
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Reluctant to lose Newcastle attack

      2. Flying Assassins
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        This is my issue/thinking right now.. Martinelli isn't passing the eye test as much as Saka and Ode at the moment.

    2. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Careful - Odegaard / Martinelli with possibility of Smith-Rowe returning?

      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Ødegaard is captain and one of the hottest players in PL at the moment, so doubt ESR will take his place

      2. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        No chance Odegaard is benched. He's captain and their best player.

        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Still waiting to find out how small teams play and who these small teams are .

  21. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Thinking about it, if Saka cross changed the direction of the ball.

    Then surely it’s a Sessengnon OG - it’s on target and Lloris failed to save.

    Discuss.

    Or don’t. I don’t care really.

  22. Zimo
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Bench White or Shaw?

    1. WVA
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'm playing both

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Can't bench Botman or Trippier though.

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Stick with the home team currently top of the league

    3. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Shaw was always getting benched in this fixture for me. Might actually bench Gabriel too though

    4. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      White

  23. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    7 saves for rambo, loves a haul

  24. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    White 8pts get in!

  25. RamaJama
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Almiron or Martinelli to Ødegaard?

    1. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Almiron

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Ødegaard without doubt for me

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        * misread question- Almiron

      2. Ron_Swanson
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Lol

    3. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Andreas to Odegaard. Have some bench headache.

  26. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    It’s the inconsistency of decision making by FPL that is annoying- if they applied consistent rules then the fact Saka did not get assist would be more understandable

    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Glad someone sees sense besides this wise badger

    2. banskt
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      For me, the most annoying part of FPL are: (1) server failures, and (2) rule changes during unforeseen events.
      The decision making by FPL is actually tied to Opta stats, so it is understandable.

  27. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Conte OUT

    Moyes IN

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Bruce IN

  28. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    White. Mitoma. Botman.

    All on the bench.

    Ouch.

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      bueno/saliba here

      1. Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        walker 2 points in 4 weeks and 17 on the bench ,pr*ck

  29. Heiro
    • 16 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Bueno and White on the bench. Sickening!

  30. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    20pts frm Ramsdale + Odegaard isn't too shabby 🙂