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The Sunday 4.30pm GMT kick-off sees Tottenham Hotspur host champions Manchester City in north London.

The big Fantasy Premier League (FPL) news is that Kevin De Bruyne starts on the bench again for tactical reasons, having also missed the reverse fixture at the Etihad in Double Gameweek 20.

Aymeric Laporte and Ilkay Gundogan are substitutes, while John Stones is absent from the matchday squad through injury. City are also without Phil Foden again.

“He was there at the hotel. He felt unwell all night – really, really bad.” – Pep Guardiola on Phil Foden

Kyle Walker, Nathan Ake, Bernardo Silva and Julian Alvarez all come into the starting XI.

Spurs, meanwhile, are unchanged from Gameweek 21, with new signing Pedro Porro on the bench.

GAMEWEEK 22 LINE-UPS

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Lloris, Romero, Dier, Davies, Royal, Hojbjerg, Bentancur, Perisic, Kulusevski, Son, Kane

Subs: Porro, Skipp, Sanchez, Richarlison, Danjuma, Sessegnon, Forster, Lenglet, Bissouma

Manchester City XI: Ederson, Walker, Akanji, Ake, Lewis, Rodri, Mahrez, Bernardo, Alvarez, Grealish, Haaland

Subs: Perrone, Dias, Phillips, Gundogan, Laporte, De Bruyne, Ortega, Gomez, Palmer

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  1. Mom, Butters just gave me a…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Strange Gameweek so far.

    Arsenal, ManCity, Chelsea and Liverpool all poor and without a goal.

    Maybe too much re-building, re-inventing, money-spending in the transfer window?

    Not sure about the next DGW and if I would want to take a hit to bring in any Arsenal players and a third ManCity player.

    It might be time to start playing against the template.

    1. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      3 arsenal is a must. their price tag wouldnt hurt your team value at all.

      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 16 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        3 Arsenal is not a must. You been listening to the cup of coffee beggars too much

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Long live the template!

    3. JIMMY TUGGINS
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Arsenal have lost twice all season, Haaland scored a hattrick last league game, don't lump them in with Liverpool and Chelsea who have been poor for much longer.

    4. snow pea in repose
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Was this weekend a disturbance in the Force or just a blip on the radar?

      1. Mom, Butters just gave me a…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Well, that's the question I guess. 😉

        No, I don't think that all these teams are completely done this season. Just questioned the template with the obvious, popular players especially when you can't rely on their manager to play them more than 60 minutes.

        Okay, Arteta is more predictable than Pep. However, that's also a weakness, as teams might have finally figured out how to take out Odegaard and co.

        But we shall see.

    5. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Ah yes, let’s FTW conclusions from a sample size of one

  2. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Tempted by this -4

    Bruno Martinelli Mitrovic

    To

    KDB Kulu Nketiah

    Thoughts?

    1. chocolove
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Dont get the kulu one...

      1. Rhodes your boat
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah just leave that move out

      2. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Fair enough

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not for me

    3. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not for me either.

    4. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Only player of those I'd sub is Mitro

    5. Dennis System
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Kdb is currently useless

      1. chocolove
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Said Lukaku

    6. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Already have 3 Arsenal so need to sell Martinelli to bring in Nketiah.

      Ideally would do Bruno and Martinelli to KDB and Saka but I’m 0.2 short

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Keep the three Arsenal players and upgrade elsewhere...

        1. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Any ideas welcome mate and thanks for the replies

          Kepa
          Trippier Akanji White
          Bruno Rashford Odegaard Martinelli
          Haaland Kane Mitrovic

          Ward Shaw Andreas Bueno

          2ft 4.2m itb

          1. Bobby Digital
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Team is in mint condition. Maybe get a defender that plays GW25 & 28 for Bueno?

            1. THFC4LIFE
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              Yeah been thinking of Tarkowski. Cheers

    7. RICICLE
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn’t be removing Bruno, especially for KDB

      1. THFC4LIFE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers for the reply

  3. Weasel Boy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Noticed Haaland was recording instructions from one of the assistant coaches today.

    This could be the reason why. Sounds like Haaland is not happy and many other players also.

    Football365: Haaland to 'divorce' Man City as his 'anger' with Guardiola sees their relationship 'crack'.
    https://www.football365.com/news/haaland-divorce-man-city-anger-guardiola-relationship-crack

    1. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Receiving instructions **

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Does chatting & then carrying out tactics mean a player is not happy...?

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, I'd be very inclined to believe the Nacional 'source' linking Haaland to La Liga. Don't believe everything you read.

    3. JIMMY TUGGINS
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Did you read the article? A Spanish source linking him to Real to generate clicks without any substance.

    4. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Graeme Souness has it spot on on Sky Sports. You have a man who has scored TWENTY FIVE goals already. When tika tikea isn't working, go direct ffs. Mix it up.

    5. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Doesn't surprise me. I have always though Pep comes across as a bit of a nob

  4. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Pep lost the dressing room IMO

    1. Dennis System
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Deffo lost the plot

      The cancelo thing could be the beginning of the end

    2. Utopsis
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I agree with this. I think the senior heads in the team have protested against Cancelo's treatment and they're getting punished.

      Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    3. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I would agree. It will only get worse too. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing him go. Bring in Poch

  5. Dennis System
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Free hit gw25? Save all the messing

    1. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Will need it for GW28!

    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Team dependant

    3. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Should be easy enough to manouvre around without FH or hits. I started by taking out Almiron this GW and will continue with taking out Bruno which leaves me with Shaw, Rash and Trippier. Bench is needed though...

  6. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    What are people's early thoughts on Martinelli to Odegaard (or Saka if you don't own too) for a -4?

    Trossard is certainly a headache for Martinelli but his cameo yesterday wouldn't worry me for Martinelli's starts just his overall minutes.

    I'd expect Martinelli to start both games in DGW23 which then makes a -4 to Odegaard or Saka seem very sidewards...

    However with Arsenal doubling in 23 and being guaranteed to play in BGW25 & 28, getting your preferred three Arsenal players in place ASAP seems logical!

    The -4 surely pays back, and more, over the next few weeks?

    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      YeH think I’d go Saka personally

      Sound reasoning

    2. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I think it could pay off. What's the other transfer?

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        There isn't but if I ask as a FT it's a no brainer!

        Trying to factor in losing an extra FT down the line, which may result in a hit in a few weeks time.

    3. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      This is where I have arrived too. You can’t afford any uncertainties for the BGWs, so although Marti is likely to start both this week you wouldn’t be so sure about the BGWs. Still, struggling to pull the trigger.

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah it'll feel so wrong!

    4. Omnifolds
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Grappling with the same problem here. Think I'm definitely going to do Almiron to Saka (which would give me triple Arsenal), but was also considering Martinelli to Odegaard for -4. My thoughts are that it's probably not going to make points this week, but might be more optimal in the long term. As an aside, no one seems to really be talking about how Martinelli's good form was related to his rotating positions with Jesus in attacks pre WC, so depending on when the latter comes back, he may well become a better pick again in future.

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Agree he's missing Jesus, heat/touch maps are showing him a lot wider on the left due to that and Zinchenko inverted.

    5. DavvaMC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      This will be my mov hi week. Martinelli > Odegaard or Saka.

  7. rozzo
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kepa Ward
    Trippier Shaw White Botman Bueno
    Fernandes Martinelli Rashford Almiron Odegaard
    Haaland Kane Mitrovic

    1ft
    4m itb

    Tempted to just transfer in Saka for Martinelli and maybe even triple captain him

    Almiron out would be good but only for Mitoma who also blanks soon, not going near City other than Haaland

    Thoughts?

  8. SouthCoastSaint
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    2 points for Mahrez and KDB is bad but might put off new suitors for hauls in the double week?

    Trying to be glass half full.

    Mahrez bias aside, pep taking him off was mad.

    He kept finding himself the extra man - bernardo, rodri, Grealish etc ignored him so many times.

    Even more frustrating KDB wasn’t on pitch at same time as him

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      It for sure will keep ownership a bit lower, especially with people's make weight Bruno scoring yesterday.

      Keep and hope!

    2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Mahrez was awful. Wouldn't shock me if it's his turn to not play for a bit.

      1. MBK 42
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        He had City’s best chance, don’t know why Pep hooked him.

      2. Lord of Ings
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        And yet he was the player who came closest to scoring for city. One half can’t define form mate, Think you need to closely look how good Mahrez has been all in all lately.

    3. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Its 2 games so should be a fair few minutes regardless. Not like anyone stood out

  9. DycheDycheBaby
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Saka captain looks tempting to me now for the double.

    1. DycheDycheBaby
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      or Odegaard 🙂

    2. RICICLE
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Does for me also

  10. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Good evening all!! So…. Bruno to Mahrez was my initial planned transfer for this coming gameweek, wavering a bit now!! Should I…..

    A- Keep Bruno and roll transfer
    Or
    B- Bruno to Mahrez like originally planned

    Cheers everyone!!!!

  11. GENERATION X
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Fine margins if that Mahrez volley is 6 inches lower people are buying in droves

  12. Scalper
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    If you were to WC right now, what would your ideal team look like?

    1. Zidane's Floor
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Anything without Darwin in

      Pls don't get him

      Not good for mental health

    2. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      See my post down

  13. Zidane's Floor
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Best source for stats?

    FBref is good but can't filter data based on a date range

    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      become a premium member here

      1. Zidane's Floor
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Could do, is it the best option in your experience?

        1. The Ilfordian
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          The stats are great- very comprehensive. Important not to rely only on them (you may have found yourself with Casemiro instead of Mitoma based on them), but as one part of your selection process I think they’re really useful

          1. Zidane's Floor
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Did Casemiro come close to Mitoma??

            On the data I was looking at it wasn't close

            1. The Ilfordian
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              I had last four matches: Casemiro at 2.1 xGi, Mitoma at 1.85

  14. agueroooooney
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    What should I be pencilling in for next week?

    Might look at bringing in Aké/Lewis for Schar/Bueno or replace Almiron but nothing jumps out.

    Kepa - Ward
    Trippier - Shaw - White - Schar - Bueno
    KDB - Rashford - Martinelli - Odegaard - Almiron
    Haaland - Kane - Mitrovic

    2 FT 0.2 itb

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I'd make transfers with GW25 and 28 in mind. Unless you will use FH.

  15. dshv
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    1. Andreas to Mahrez (bench Toney)
    2. Toney to Nketiah
    3. Cucurella to Ake

    Choose something, second choose (-4)

    1. MBK 42
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      1 and 2

    2. acidicleo
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      if u do 1 and 2 who will u bench?

  16. Drosiah
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Tempted by a -4 for -
    Martinelli & Mitrò to Nketiah & Mahrez

    Already have White & Odegard & just Haaland

    Thoughts?

    Thanks 🙂

    1. MBK 42
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I’m thinking of similar but with Toney going; feels like it could work out.

    2. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Same here, great minds and all that

  17. My heart goes Salalalalah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Let's try again...

    How would you change this WC team? Just playing around and came to 10 changes! With 1m-3m+ itb to spare...

    Kepa Ward
    Shaw Trip Saliba James Tarko
    Saka Ode Rash Mahrez Mitoma
    Haaland Kane Inheanacho/Mitro/Gnonto

    1. The Ilfordian
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Plan for 25 and 28? Thinking Villa- maybe Watkins?

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yep, also looking at Moreno down the line. I think I'll be good with this team for gw25. If gw28 is a big blank like it seems it will be, I might FH

    2. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      - Leno over Ward for GW25 blank.
      - Gabriel over Saliba but its a toss up.
      - Maybe hold off on Reece for now and go with Akanji. Only secure City def and has a DGW followed by forest and bou.
      - Bruno over Mahrez.
      - Mitro over Iheanacho/Gnonto.

      Not sure if you'll have enough for those moves but that's what my WC would look like

      1. My heart goes Salalalalah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Good advice, cheers

  18. Tinfoil Deathstar
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    1FT and £0.1 ITB.

    Contemplating an aggressive -8 to move Bruno, Stones, and Andreas to Odegard, Mahrez and Badiashile. Have exact funds. Or just keep things simple and move Bruno to Saka with FT.

    Thoughts?

    Kepa
    Shaw - Trippier - White*
    KDB* - Martinelli* - Bruno - Rashford - Andreas
    Haaland* - Kane

    Bench: Ward; Gnonto, Stones, Paterson

  19. Gudjohnsen
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    If you have seven players who won't have a game in 25 and you have already used FH what would you do with Martinelli?

    1. Indpush
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep him?

    2. mdm
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Keep him

  20. Tshelby
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Thinking about mitro and kdb to Kane and mahrez for free? Good move?

    1. Tshelby
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Could also use Bruno instead of kdb

      1. Tinfoil Deathstar
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Bruno makes much more sense as the makeweight here given KDB double and GW25 blank for Man Utd

        1. Utopsis
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          We always think this, then he hauls in 23 and 24

  21. CheesyZoot
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kepa > Ederson?

    Don’t have any burning issues this week so might do this relatively boring move

    1. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Why? Kepa has more double point hauls since he came back to the Chelsea first team than Ederson clean sheets

    2. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Nah keep Kepa

    3. Mirror Man
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Ederson is the probably the worst go for FPL. Very expensive and has only managed 8 clean sheets and a measley 32 saves. Atrocious value.

        *This message is Leaders Lounge approved, and has not been algorithmically generated*

        Real time advice from real world pro's.

        We do the Leading so you can do the lounging.

        1. Mirror Man
            3 years, 1 month ago

            *gk

      • tbos83
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        It is so painfully obviously that Pep has lost the dressing room

      • it lies in the proles
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Fernandes to Grealish?

        Already got Mahrez and Haaland

        1. Indpush
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I like three in attack for the double. I'll have to stick with Haaland, Mahrez and Ederson though.

        2. RICICLE
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Hell no! Stick with Bruno

        3. Biggsy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Anything about Grealish suggested you should bring him in?

      • RICICLE
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Do we happen to know who will and won’t be playing in GW 28? Or is it still in the process of not knowing for sure?

        Cheers guys.

        1. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          We'll know before GW26

          1. Zimo
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Matches are on 1st March

        2. potatoace
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Will know all who won't after fa cup 5round. Gw26

          We already know the following will:
          For v New
          Che v Eve
          Ast v Bou
          Ars v Cpa

          1. Zimo
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Guaranteed 8 players for me then noice

            1. potatoace
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              And one of either:
              Wol v Lee or;
              Liv v Ful

              1. potatoace
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                Actually, that's not right.
                Its at least one of these two. There's still a chance both could be ON

              2. Zimo
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                I'll have Nunez. So supporting a Leeds win in the cup. Maybe Sunderland win and I don't have to think about it though.

            2. RICICLE
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              8 there for me also, decent enough

              1. RICICLE
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                Sorry, will be 9 by then at least

        3. RICICLE
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Excellent stuff cheers guys!

        4. Mirror Man
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Please consider the "Full Enchilada"

            All the best.

        5. AutoFill 2021
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Thinking Grealish

          1. Scalper
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Stop thinking then :p

        6. dansmusen
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          4 players in action today for a whopping 6 points.

          1. Bobby Digital
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Two for 10pts

        7. CoracAld2831
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Pre GW23, which move seems best?

          A: Fernandes -> KDB
          B: Almiron -> Mahrez
          C: Keep all and roll
          D: Other?

          1 FT
          3.5m

          I have Triple Arsenal (Nketiah, Odegaard, White) and Haaland & Walker.

          Feeling B, if any at all.

          1. potatoace
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            B

          2. Ha.
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            B

          3. mdm
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            B obv

          4. OptimusBlack
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            B

        8. it lies in the proles
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          It’s Grealish time, it is written

          1. Utopsis
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            Will never be prolific enough to be a consideration

        9. The Red Devil
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          City away from home have been woeful, was thinking of taking hits to do Martinelli & Bruno
          To
          Saka & kdb (already have Mahrez) but might just go with 2 city and triple Arsenal, think Arsenal might be the team to target with both games at home

        10. OptimusBlack
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          If you have
          Ramsdale White Ødegaard would u ?
          A- Keep them
          B- White & Bruno >
          Aké & Saka for -4
          C- Ramsdale & Bruno >
          Kepa & Saka for -4