Champions League
13 February 2023 108 comments
FPL Marc FPL Marc
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Welcome back, Messrs Messi, Mbappe, Salah and Haaland!

The knockout phase of the 2022/23 UEFA Champions League (UCL) is about to start – and the official Fantasy game for Europe’s premier club competition is live (official game app here).

Managers have an unlimited number of transfers to make to their group-stage squads but it’s still possible for new names to sign up, create a squad and win some of the superb matchday prizes.

Similarly, if you’ve had a poor group stage with your original 2022/23 team, there is still a material incentive to continue into the round of 16 and beyond.

As always, we’ll be bringing you regular content on this game throughout the knockout rounds, starting with a quick reminder of the game’s basics.

GRAND PRIZES

There are some very decent prizes on offer in this free-to-play Fantasy game, whether it’s overall or for individual matchdays.

By winning the season-long competition, one lucky person will win two tickets to the 2023/24 Champions League final in London, plus a Playstation 5.

Finish between second and sixth, you’ll win a shirt from the Champions League team of your choice, whilst seventh to eleventh get an official ball.

12th-to-16th managers will win €100 in vouchers to spend in UEFA’s online store.

MATCHDAY PRIZES

Even by entering now, you can win two tickets to the 2023/24 final, as it also goes to the best knockout phase manager.

Get the highest score for any matchday and you’ll win a shirt from a Champions League club of your choice, with second place winning FIFA 23.

There is also a prize draw to win a Playstation 5 on each of the 13 matchdays, you just enter by making a sub or transfer during it.

SIGN UP TO PLAY UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FANTASY HERE

HOW TO PLAY UCL FANTASY

BRIEF RULES

To summarise the game in one sentence: UCL Fantasy managers now get an increased budget of €105m to spend on a 15-man squad, who earn points based on their on-field performances in the Champions League.

Anyone who has played Fantasy Premier League (FPL) will have no trouble in picking the game up, as many of the rules are exactly the same or very similar:

  • Pick a squad of 15 players
  • No more than four players from each club in the Round of 16 (this increases for each future stage)
  • Select a starting XI in a valid formation for every ‘matchday’ (the UCL equivalent of a ‘Gameweek’, which incorporates both the Tuesday and Wednesday fixtures)
  • Select a captain who earns double points
  • Make free transfers between matchdays

Those are the fundamentals but there are one or two quirks of the game that require a bit of explaining, which we will cover below.

SUBSTITUTIONS

If you prefer the hands-off approach to Fantasy management, auto-subs occur if any of your starting XI fail to feature and there is a playing substitute on your bench – providing that player doesn’t break the formation rules (a minimum of three defenders, two midfielders and one forward).

Where UCL Fantasy differs is that it also gives managers the chance to make manual substitutions instead.

After all matches on a single day (eg Tuesday) have finished and before the next matches within that matchday kick off (eg Wednesday), UCL Fantasy managers can:

  • Replace a maximum of four players (unless they have been sent off), with any of their substitutes whose teams are yet to play within the matchday.
  • Change their captain to another player from their squad whose team is yet to play. The original captain’s double points will be lost and the new captain’s score for that matchday will be doubled.

As an example, say you have selected Neymar (€10.0m) for Paris Saint Germain’s Matchday 7 clash with Bayern Munich on Tuesday 14 February.

If the forward fails to feature or returns a middling score of, say, two points, you can then replace him with one of your substitutes who is in action on Wednesday 15 February.

TRANSFERS

As we mentioned earlier, free transfers are allowed between matchdays, although none can be rolled over now that we’ve reached the latter stages.

For every transaction you make beyond your quota of free transfers, you’ll take a hit of four points.

The below table details how many moves are allowed at each stage of the competition:

PhaseNumber of free transfers
Between Matchday 6 and round of 16 1st legUnlimited
Before round of 16 2nd leg3
Before quarter-final 1st leg5
Before quarter-final 2nd leg3
Before semi-final 1st leg5
Before semi-final 2nd leg3
Before final5

CHIPS

FFScout Head-to-Head Leagues 2020/21 season review

There are two chips available to UCL Fantasy managers: Wildcard and Limitless.

These chips can be used only once per season – although not on the imminent Matchday 7 – and, once played, they can’t be cancelled.

Wildcard

As in FPL, the Wildcard gives you the chance to change your squad as much as you like. When you play it you can make free unlimited transfers and any players you transfer in will stay in your squad once that matchday has finished.

Limitless

Limitless is the equivalent of FPL’s Free Hit chip and gives managers the chance to change their squad for one matchday only.

Once the matchday has finished, your squad will return to how it was before you played the Limitless chip.

Rather excitingly, there are no budget restrictions when activating Limitless – so, should you wish, you can pack your squad with the most expensive assets in the game.

SCORING SYSTEM

Again, the scoring system is a very familiar one.

Most of the player actions and the points on offer tally with FPL, although there are one or two notable differences.

A goal scored from outside the box gets an additional point, for example, while the acts of winning and conceding a penalty are rewarded and punished respectively.

Players also gain points through ball recoveries, which gives the more defensive-minded players a chance to rack up a tidy score.

Over 40% of Jorginho‘s 2020/21 points total in UCL Fantasy was made up by recoveries, for example.

ActionPoints
All players
Appearance1
Playing at least 60 minutes (includes points mentioned above)2
Goals scored from outside the box (in addition to points for scoring)1
Assist3
Every three balls recovered1
Winning a penalty2
Conceding a penalty-1
Missing a penalty-2
Yellow card-1
Red card (includes yellow card deduction)-3
Scoring an own goal-2
Player of the Match award3
Goalkeepers
Scoring a goal6
Saving a penalty5
Keeping a clean sheet (must play at least 60 minutes)4
For every three saves1
For every two goals conceded-1
Defenders
Scoring a goal6
Keeping a clean sheet (must play at least 60 minutes)4
For every two goals conceded-1
Midfielders
Scoring a goal5
Keeping a clean sheet (must play at least 60 minutes)1
Forwards
Scoring a goal4

JOIN OUR MINI-LEAGUE

There are two types of league in UCL Fantasy: Private and Global.

Private leagues

Private leagues give you the chance to battle for bragging rights among your friends, family and colleagues.

To create a league, go to ‘Leagues’ and select ‘Create a league’. Then invite others to join by sharing the league code.

You can also reactivate your leagues from previous seasons in the ‘Leagues’ section.

We have set up our own mini-league, the details of which are below.


JOIN THE FANTASY FOOTBALL SCOUT MINI-LEAGUE HERE

Enter the following code: 75L4Q5EA10


Global leagues

Your team will be automatically included in the following leagues:

  • The overall leaderboard with all other players around the world
  • A league with other players from your country
  • A league with other players who support the same Champions League team as you



FPL Marc Broadcaster, writer and overthinker. Hoping that ‘differential potential’ will catch on.

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  1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    C'mon Toffees

  2. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    How does this chip plan sound?

    Buy Brighton 25 to 27

    Free hit bgw 28

    Dead end to 32

    Wildcard 33 and bb 34

    Feels simple but effective

    1. Basil1977
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Same chip plan I’m on

      Already own Sanchez and Mitoma, my plan is to stock up between 25 and 27 with double game week 29 players who blank in 28, when using free hit chip

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      I have mentioned this plan as obvious earlier today. After taking -8 this week to get best Ars trio and having planned how to navigate next weeks, I cannot find anything else being better. However, since not knowing the fixtures for bgw 32 and Ars, Che and New playing gw 28 which could be low scoring, I am wondering if FH might have bigger upside later and would it be possible to write bgw 28 off or navigate without FH.

      1. Flynny
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        It might be. But this plan feels quite simple and works for me as I don't have hours and hours to strategise and devise plans!

      2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Should be DGW in 36/37, could pay off. I held one of last year's FHs until then and had a chance to break into top 50k if used well but I made a mess of it, but gains were certainly there to be made despite the best options seemingly being from a side facing relegation

        1. The Mentaculus
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah I like this option too. Very hard to prepare for with the beach factor. Will see how bad GW32 looks & FH one of the two

  3. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    What's your prediction for ARS - MCI?

    1. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      3-1

    2. syke63
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      A Martinelli resurgence in a scintillating victory for the reds. Or a 2-1 to citeh.

    3. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Was thinking 2-1 Arsenal but I might revise it to 2-2 after seeing City yesterday

    4. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      1-1

      1. rick ding whoop
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        3-1

    5. banskt
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      2-2

    6. One for All
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      1-3

    7. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Wouldn't be surprised of a 1 - 2 city.

  4. Drexl Spivey
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Admitting I still own Salah tonight feels a little like coming out of the closet.

    And yet there he is. And here I am, awaiting his long gestating hattrick.

    1. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Salah (c) in GW25?

      1. Drexl Spivey
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Without an absolute shadow of a doubt.

        1. syke63
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Will bring him in for that too.

          1. RamaJama
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Most will

            1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
              • 9 Years
              2 years, 10 months ago

              Don't know. I was shot down by quite a few here when I suggested it yesterday

              1. Nate(U)dog(ie)
                • 5 Years
                2 years, 10 months ago

                I still don't like the idea but most will fall for the DGW premium lure even though his returns in the last 5 weeks are more like those of bench fodder

                1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
                  • 9 Years
                  2 years, 10 months ago

                  True. But I will be getting him for KDB. Not much to lose there I guess.

                  1. Baps Hunter
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    2 years, 10 months ago

                    Same here, even though I have Bruno also. I can even see myself going all in with Darwin (Mitro has to go also) and another Liv mid, which could be overkill. However, when chasing over 100 pts, risks must be taken.

              2. Baps Hunter
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                2 years, 10 months ago

                He has six blanks in a row I think, but form is temporary and class permanent. Fixtures are too good to ignore. And if they get some injured core players back, Liv and Salah's form could improve fast.

                1. Alexis Nonsense
                  • 9 Years
                  2 years, 10 months ago

                  Fun fact people are just ignorant about:

                  Salah has outscored KDB since gw17 restart, yet people are all in on KDB for some reason

                  1. Baps Hunter
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 8 Years
                    2 years, 10 months ago

                    Eye test?

                  2. The Mentaculus
                    • 4 Years
                    2 years, 10 months ago

                    Fun fact: both are trailing Jordan Ayew, Podence & Palhinha

                2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
                  • 5 Years
                  2 years, 10 months ago

                  If he was in a side that was performing or just in a blip and on the cusp of turning things around then I'd agree. But the issue is he's in a side that is being outfought and outplayed by the majority of the teams they're facing. That alone reduces appeal as his opportunities will be further limited as opposition teams have more of the ball and push Liverpool back more regularly. Form is temporary but this team is in a bad state and isn't equipped to control games

  5. Bobby
    • 16 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Odds on akanji starting on Wednesday?

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Looked poor yesterday. I think Ake will come back though.

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Unlikely I think, given how much better Dias looked

    3. El Presidente
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Back 4 will be Ake, Dias, Laporte and Walker

  6. RWB_1991
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Is Joao Felix nailed in this Chelsea side? Or is it too early to tell

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Best player in that team.

      1. RWB_1991
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        So he should be nailed then?

        1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Yes, if Potter has any sense.

          1. RWB_1991
            • 5 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Thanks

    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      i suspect so - but still early to tell.
      i think I would take the risk if i had the right team set up.

    3. El Presidente
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Totally

      1. RWB_1991
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Cool. I think he took a few set pieces too against West Ham, so that would be a bonus as well

    4. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Has to be - assuming unscathed v Dortmund I might be tempted to get him ( v SOU) for Mitrovic (bha). We also know Chelsea have no blanks

      1. RWB_1991
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Yeh I’m thinking of getting him in for Callum Wilson too

  7. Bobby Digital
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Team this GW:

    Kepa
    Tripp Shaw White
    Rash Bruno Marti Mahrez
    Kane Halaand Nketiah

    Ward Andreas Perraud Patters

    3.4m itb, 1 ft

    I'm planning to roll a transfer this week and get rid of Bruno and Patterson next GW, unless Patterson is back.

    1. My heart goes Salalalalah
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Sounds good

      1. Bobby Digital
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers!

  8. Botman and Robben
    • 9 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Wonder how much Salah and KDB will be priced at next FPL season...

    1. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      More than 10m would be a joke

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Salah 11.5, KDB 10?

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        11.5 and 10.5?

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Haaland should be 14 or 15, but I expect him to be 13.5

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Pricing been little strange this season. Or perhaps most expensive players have been underperforming. Haaland's price will be interesting also. Everyone will have him anyway, no matter what.

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Look at James last night 7 weeks of huge sales, slight gain & price rise.

        How’s that possible?

        1. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Manual intervention to algorithm?

          1. Biggsy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Bold to suggest it's an algorithm. Don't they rely on logic?

      2. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Thing is with there being limited competition it’s difficult for the powers to over price - I recon 13 max

  9. putana
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Hoping for a Coleman disasterclass so Patterson is starting for the double

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      This

  10. g40steve
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on Capping Rashford, Toney or Mahrez this weekend?

    Save FT?

    Ederson
    Trippier, Shaw, White,
    Mahrez, Rashford, Ode, Saka
    Hauland, Kane, Toney

    Ward, Bueno, Andreas, Botman

    4m

    1. Biggsy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Rashford in this form Vs Leicester looks tasty

      Team looks good too

      1. g40steve
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers

  11. Sherif halawa
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Team news out yet?

    1. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Timing

  12. Sim Simma
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    ⚽ Team News 📰
    Liverpool : Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Gomez, Matip, Robertson, Bajcetic, Fabinho, Henderson, Nunez, Gakpo, Salah
    Subs: Kelleher, Van Dijk, Milner, Elliott, Tskimikas, Phillips, Jota, Firmino, Keita

    Everton : Pickford, Coleman, Coady, Tarkowski, Mykolenko, McNeil, Doucoure, Gana, Onana, Iwobi, Simms
    Subs: Begovic, Holgate, Gray, Mina, Maupay, Godfrey, Davies, Vinagre, Keane

    1. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Cheers, Jota & Firmino on the bench?

    2. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Simms... I don't even know who that is

      1. Biggsy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Given the username, he's slipped himself into the line up....

      2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Forward from the youth team

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Maupay must be fuming.

  13. Sherif halawa
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Simms who?

  14. rozzo
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone thought about not capping Haaland so much for the rest of the season? And not just when other teams double?

    We all have him, at worst we get half the points everyone else gets but with the form of others maybe this is a way to move up the ranks a bit

    City have Forest next though, so easy just to captain him. Tempted to go for Rashford or someone.

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Captain whoever you think is going to score the most points each week.

    2. g40steve
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      I’ve gone against recently mainly Rashford.

      I think Mahrez & Rashford better options to gain ground?

      Forest at home are rather solid.

    3. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      There's a decent chance I don't actually captain him at all in the next 6 GWs. Looking at
      24) Rashford
      25-6) Saka
      27) Mitoma
      28) No idea but Haaland blanks
      29) DGW fairly unlikely for City

    4. Fintroy
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      True, might as well not have him in the game at all....his points are nutural each week, as everyone has him and most captain him each week

  15. Gandalf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Jota on the bench

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      VvD also. Liverpool may improve soon, but hardly yet.

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Jota possibly just might make Salah little better option. Is Jota threat to Darwin or Gakpo?

  16. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Liverpool watch tonight In advance of DGW25

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Everton watch

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        I may need a cheap Everton mid so yes

    2. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Many thinking of Salah (c) for DGW25.
      I have serous doubts

      1. Stranger Mings
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        I am thinking getting salah but not to c

  17. Sun Jihai
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Must be the lowest ownership Liverpool game in a long time... Salah 3% EO!

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      I’m sure in 3 hrs there’ll be good reason why too

  18. putana
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Patterson not even on the bench. Hopefully gets minutes next game

    1. Stranger Mings
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Yeh really need him to play DGW25 to get 11 out

  19. Tonyawesome69
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    As expected no Patterson in the squad. Only seen running and not taken part of full team training yet.

    Interesting to see Simms ahead of Maupay and Gray as DCL replacement.

  20. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Patterson not on bench?

  21. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    If pool lose tonight surely it’s clear Klopp has lost the dressing room!

    1. Alexis Nonsense
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Pochettino vibes...they all loved him, but he tired them out over seasons

  22. The Mandalorian
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    The fixtures in GW28 are awful and not worth playing the FH.

    1. The Mentaculus
      • 4 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      When you start looking at a FH team & Watkins seems essential, you do start to wonder...

    2. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Good question. I think we need to compare the difference between FH template and teams we can get without hits.

      1. The Mentaculus
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        That's a swan's neck, not a question mark

    3. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Last dgw when many teams are on the beach has sometimes huge upside.

      1. Baps Hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        Meant also gw38 (or 37)

  23. banskt
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Patterson not coming back leaves me without any defender for GW25.

    -- If I have to play with only one defender in GW25 (total 9 players), who would you suggest?

    Kepa, Ward
    Trippier*, Botman*, Shaw*, Martinez*, Patterson*
    Saka, Odegaard, KDB, Mahrez, Rashford*
    Haaland, Nketiah, Mitrovic

    1. banskt
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      *Already maxed out on Arsenal and Manchester City.

    2. Bobby Digital
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Tarkowski is popular

      1. banskt
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 10 months ago

        May be popular, but is he the best option for that week? Better than Liverpool, Wolves or Fulham defenders?

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 10 months ago

          Do you have the dosh for a Pool defender? If you do, then sure go for it.

          1. banskt
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 10 months ago

            Money not an issue, I have like 3.8m in the bank. Could get Salah and Robertson for GW25 (to get 9 players), or two playing defenders (to get 10 players).

  24. Stranger Mings
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Is Onana the Best mid for 4.9 and for DGW25?

  25. Jerse
    • 5 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Some of these podcasters make me howl with laughter. Sorry it needs saying, the FPL community gliterati may not like it but.. When it goes against them, its a massive game of luck, but when it goes for them, great decisions.

    Say no more.

    1. Baps Hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 10 months ago

      Naturally 😉 One would have to be very pessimistic if it was vice versa. There would be no point to play this game in that case imo.

  26. CrouchDown
    • 13 Years
    2 years, 10 months ago

    Patterson no good for the DGW so I take it