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15 February 2023 1537 comments
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The final match of Double Gameweek 23 takes place at the Emirates Stadium, where Arsenal host Manchester City in the 19:30 GMT kick-off.

This huge top-of-the-table clash was originally meant for Gameweek 12 but had to be rearranged due to Queen Elizabeth II’s death and the subsequent moving of a Europa League match.

It means that we’ve reached February without the league’s two best sides having faced off, a chance to see if the student – Mikel Arteta – can overcome his master Pep Guardiola.

Visitors Man City can overtake their hosts tonight and have made one change to the side that beat Aston Villa 3-1 on Sunday – Nathan Ake (£5.1m) replaces Aymeric Laporte (£5.7m).

That means Erling Haaland (£12.2m) has shaken off the knock which resulted in his half-time withdrawal and there are also starts for Kevin De Bruyne (£12.4m) and Riyad Mahrez (£7.8m). However, owners of Manuel Akanji (£5.0m) and Rico Lewis (£3.9m) will be frustrated to lose at ‘Pep Roulette’ for both parts of Double Gameweek 23.

Arsenal had the same starting XI for the previous six league matches but have made two changes here. Popular FPL defender Ben White (£4.7m) is on the bench and midfielder Thomas Partey (£4.7m) misses out because of “a tight muscle.”

In comes Takehiro Tomiyasu (£4.2m) and Jorginho (£5.8m), which is good news for Gabriel Martinelli‘s (£6.6m) owners – he keeps his place despite Leandro Trossard‘s (£6.7m) weekend goal.

Bukayo Saka (£8.3m), Eddie Nketiah (£6.8m), Martin Odegaard (£7.0m), Gabriel (£5.2m) and William Saliba (£5.3m) start too.

GAMEWEEK 23 LINE-UPS

Arsenal XI: Ramsdale; Tomiyasu, Saliba, Gabriel, Zinchenko; Odegaard, Jorginho, Xhaka; Saka, Nketiah, Martinelli

Subs: Turner, White, Tierney, Kiwior, Holding, Trossard, Fabio Vieira, Nelson, Cozier-Duberry

Manchester City XI: Ederson; Walker, Dias, Ake, Bernardo; Rodri, De Bruyne, Gundogan; Mahrez, Haaland, Grealish

Subs: Ortega, Laporte, Lewis, Akanji, Sergio Gomez, Phillips, Palmer, Alvarez, Foden 



FPL Marc Broadcaster, writer and overthinker. Hoping that ‘differential potential’ will catch on.

  1. Chalobah's Witness
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    77 and red arrow?
    surely a mistake

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah defo

    2. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      High rank. I'm on 74 and red arrow as well.

    3. FantasyTony
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      79 and a red here. Only down less than 1k though.

      I'll take that considering how many people tripled Haaland.

    4. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Whats your OR?

      1. camarozz
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        70 here and relieved tbh ,missed deadline Rash capt. Could have been worse

      2. Chalobah's Witness
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not good. Last GW 290k and this GW I'll drop to 306k.

    5. Bluetiger1
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Must be might have to wait a couple of hours for it to settle in as game just finished - good score

    6. FPL Brains
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      75, 2k rank drop.

    7. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Average seems to be about 100 based on people who have posted scores on here

  2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Level on points. Still a game in hand. Don't know what people here are reading!

    1. TheTinman
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Guess the worry is 3 defeats and 1 draw in last 4, only managing 2 goals, one of which was a generous penalty.

      1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Agree. But as an Arsenal fan I am still happy with where wee are. Youngest team in the league. Not too much spent. Not in the top 4 last season. People absolutely wrote us off.

        1. TheTinman
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Of course. Arsenal are having an amazing season and I hope they win it.

          This City team is not the same as before. They are far more vulnerable.

          Still in arsenal's hands. And let's not forget, City have to play NUFC soon

          1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Absolutely love what that club is doing. Eddie and the boys. Seriously hope they get CL next season.

          2. El Presidente
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Vulnerable? LoL

      2. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Will see if a wobble or the nerves now as first time Man City ahead of Arsenal - Bottle or not as this season is like the Leicester City season surely if they do not win this season will be much harder with Champions League fixtures/Liverpool & Chelsea will get stronger with Tottenham & Manchester United in the mix

        City - Been there before
        City - Chased down a lead
        City - Won so many over the last couple of years against a very good Liverpool team
        Agree on same points but Arsenal game in hand whilst City 10 goals better off - interesting
        Arsenal long term injuries should be back soon like Jesus
        Sets up Man City v Arsenal game nicely

        Time will tell......

    2. Carefree Crew
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      "Not too much spent" €606mil in the last 4 years...Just the €192m this year & €167m last!

      Arsenal have bought their way back into the top 4 after not having any CL revenue for 5 years.

      For context Arsenal have the 8th highest net spend World-wide over the last decade.

  3. Pat Bonner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Looks like 68 all out and doubled my rank. 6 red arrows in a row. GW 11 I was 339th 🙁

    1. Weak Become Heros
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Unlucky mate, plenty of opportunity to turn it around with the doubles coming up.

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers. Hopefully make some ground up next week

    2. Bucket Man
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      62 here. Very similar was in top 100 at one point but got so lucky. Don't really know what to do now

      1. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Might need to ditch the likes of ake and martinelli now. Should’ve done that last week with martinelli in hindsight

    3. villa_til_i_die
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Ouch!, at least you were there.

      1. Bucket Man
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Yep. Just trying to get my first top 10 K now but struggling.

      2. Pat Bonner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I was dreaming at one point but so tough to stay in that position

        1. Bucket Man
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          It is super difficult. At that point I was making goalkeeper transfers as had 2ft and nothing to do. Now I Wish I got 2ft a week.

          1. Pat Bonner
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Haha same here. I even got lucky there as got Kepa in before everyone else

            1. Bucket Man
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              That week I remember debating him or Guiata. Went Guiata. Best to save FT this week you think?

              Kepa
              Trippier, Ake, Shaw
              Bruno, Rashford, Odegaard, Martinelli, Mahrez
              Haaland, Kane
              Ward, White, Patterson, Greenwood

  4. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Is Arsenal Fan TV still a thing?

    1. Pariße
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Luckily not. Only good for the club.

    2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Yes. And all of us are happy on it. Cheering our team, all things considered.

  5. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    My defence really let me down this week. Only 3 teams with clean sheets and I benched Shaw like many others.

  6. To Mee To You
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    What a mad DGW. Started today on 38pts and finished on 90.

    1. Mirror Man
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Very satisfying grav/name combination. Tremendous. Upvote locked in.

      • Weak Become Heros
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Nice mate

      • DandyDon
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Similar. 91 pts. 4 pt scorers tonight after playing my WC and got jammy Lewis staying on the bench so get Shaws 12!

        1. Bluetiger1
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Well done - again terrific score

      • Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Wow - scored your points?

      • Danno - Emre Canada
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        116pts for me, first ton of the season but took a bench boost.

      • Mainoo Magic
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        90 here.

    2. Gudjohnsen
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Saka 2 BAPS!

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        How is that even possible? He gained 8 Bpts doing nothing . . .

    3. Lingard’s Shin Guards
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      marius wolf

      thats a name and a half

      1. Hairy Potter
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        It's good, but it's not Wolfgang Wolf, former manager of Wolfsburg.

        1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Mad. Arsene Arsenal.

    4. Digital-Real
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenal dropping 8pts is hilarious!

    5. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      When will they add Haaland assist?

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Didn’t get one

      2. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        What do you mean?

      3. Sheffield Wednesday
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        When he assists? Not in this match.

    6. Flynny
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Ben White back at the weekend?

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I would think so- not worth a sideways transfer

      2. TheSteel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Has to be. Tomi nightmare

      3. Nate(U)dog(ie)
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I'd imagine so, Tomiyasu had a horrid time. Still think I'll bench White though anyway as I fancy Villa to score especially if Partey is still out

      4. Dthinger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I love that everyone was screaming that we needed to move White on to Gabriel, even for a hit, and White ended up scoring the same points as all the other Arsenal defenders.

    7. dansmusen
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      98 with Haaland TC. Could have been better.

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Hey u beat GW19 TCs

        1. Zimo
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          GW20*

      2. Planet Head
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Same here, 98. Hi 5

      3. Bushwhacker
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Shoulda Rasforded last week.

    8. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      For the Gundo assist, Opta gave it immediately.

      With heat touching technology on the ball, they'll have known if he touched it...

      1. BrockLanders
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not sure he even touched it

    9. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Arsenals race is run.

      1. TheBiffas
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Far from it

      2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        How? I am all ears.

      3. Pariße
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        One point against everton at that game in hand, and they’re top again.

      4. Qaiss
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Partey and Jesus are injured, when they’re back we’ll be on top again, just hope they’re back soon

    10. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      If Man City win the title then hats off to the bald fraud. Mentality

      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        They were always going to win the league.

    11. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Farteta showing some poor management today.

      Tomiyasu very poor, should have stuck with White. Should have played Trossard too.

      Nketiah is a lower level striker, Odegaard and Xhaka were both shite today too. I’m fearing Villa away.

    12. Lord of Ings
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Saka upto 2 bonus!

    13. The Mighty Hippo
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      KDB outscored Mahrez eventually....

      1. TheBiffas
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Result!

    14. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      If Arsenal's season falls apart now due to Partey being absent it'd be good karma!

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      2. Hairy Potter
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        How come?

    15. Ruinenlust
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Dortmund getting lucky

    16. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      NO PARTEY no party

      1. Bluetiger1
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Jorginho a good player but too slow for Arsenal style hence why Chelsea allowed to go to a rival
        his not a Partey on current form

        How long is Partey out?

    17. Arthur Shelby
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Playing Botman over Shaw really stings. The difference between maintaining rank and doubling it…

    18. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      It’s the hope that kills you.

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Will be quite funny if Arsenal end up winning nothing this year.

        Join us.

        1. BUZZBOMB ♡
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Why?

          1. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Arsenal Fan TV

            1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Or they could outspend everyone for 20 years and buy trophies like Chelsea

            2. BUZZBOMB ♡
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Is it worse than any other club Fan TV? This is as bad as "Lolling @ ------" comments.

        2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          How will it be funny? We are not Chelsea or United who spent mad and still can't challenge. Happy with what we are doing.

      2. Gudjohnsen
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Don't get it why people where so certain it was Arsenal's year.
        The league is practically stíll in January because of the world cup.

        1. Lingard’s Shin Guards
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          they had the chance to go 11 pts clear not too long ago

        2. Arteta
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I don't think that's entirely true. How and why would anyone be certain about winning the league with so many games to go and 4 months of football ahead of us? Maybe you just came across a few too loud or arrogant fans. City were the favourites since day one. Arsenal just shocked the world with great results and performances before that mini crisis began. A dip in form is completely normal - but they have to fight back and bounce back in a couple of days.

      3. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        We still have a game in hand. And honestly speaking, aren't you happy with where we are? Did we expect us to be fighting for the ultimate prize. Let's enjoy what the kids are doing.

      4. Hairy Potter
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Enjoy the week in, week out good football. Winning a trophy would be the icing on the cake.

    19. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      White owners can relax now that the tomiyasu experiment didn’t work. 0.5 cheaper than Gabriel and nailed I’d think.

      1. Saka White Rice
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Would you start him or Martinez next game?

        1. Scalper
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          That’s a tough one. Leicester looking good attacking wise but United at home. Arsenal are not so good without partey. Maybe just Martinez as United home.

        2. BUZZBOMB ♡
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          I would start White if I still had him

    20. Hazardous1983
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Best.mitro replacement own haaland n nketiah

      1. Bucket Man
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Kane, Toney.if funds. Watkins possibly. Even dare I say it Nunez

    21. Scalper
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Saka went up from 22 to 30 BAP points in the last 8 mins from 2 tackles and 1 big chance created.

      My hero

      1. Bushwhacker
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Mystery of BAPs will never be explained

    22. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Felix getting great chances, get him on your watch list!

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        1. Rainer
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Offender?

    23. Ruinenlust
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      AFTV gonna be lit

    24. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Huge game against Villa for Arsenal.If they win they have good games until gw30.It would be really close until the end.Goal difference will be important.

    25. Ruinenlust
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Dortmund are a very dirty team