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The Sunday 4.30pm GMT kick-off sees Tottenham Hotspur host West Ham United in north London.

The big Fantasy news is that Ivan Perisic and Son Heung-min are both on the bench for Spurs.

Japhet Tanganga, Pedro Porro and Rodrigo Bentancur also drop out, with Cristian Romero, Clement Lenglet, Emerson Royal, Oliver Skipp and Richarlison their replacements.

As for West Ham, they make two changes from their 1-1 draw at home to Chelsea, as Tomas Soucek and Flynn Downes come in for Lucas Paqueta – who misses out with a shoulder injury – and Said Benrahma.

GAMEWEEK 24 LINE-UPS

Tottenham Hotspur XI: Forster, Romero, Dier, Lenglet, Royal, Hojbjerg, Skipp, Davies, Kulusevski, Richarlison, Kane

Subs: Austin, Sanchez, Porro, Tanganga, Sarr, Danjuma, Perisic, Moura, Son

West Ham United XI: Fabianski, Kehrer, Ogbonna, Aguerd, Coufal, Soucek, Rice, Emerson, Bowen, Downes, Antonio

Subs: Areola, Cresswell, Johnson, Fornals, Lanzini, Benrahma, Scamacca, Ings, Casey

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  1. putana
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    What sport do west ham players think they are playing?

    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Moyesball

    2. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Football. The American variety. Love using their hands.

      1. putana
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        two games in a row. Pretty clear handballs

        1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Absolutely

    3. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Im a WHU fan and I cant understand how last week and this week were not handball decisions ?? I hate VAR

  2. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Why are West Ham allowed to use two keepers these days?

    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Moyesball

  3. The Mighty Hippo
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Is Joe Gomez likely to keep starting for Liverpool do you think? Or is Matip likely to take time from him?

    1. Big Mac 24
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Matip normally preferred for champions league, I brought Gomez in on Friday due to slight upturn in form and VVD coming back

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      If Gomez is ahead of Matip now in Klopps pecking order he'll start vs Real Madrid on Tuesday.

      Then expecting him to start the following Saturday & Wednesday, with his injury issues and Matip able to fill in...

      I'd avoid them both!

      Trent then Robbo or Virgil if stuck for funds.

  4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    spurs have 8 defensive minded players playing here

    1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Including Kane?

      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Excluding but he is dropping deep as usual

        1. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          That's what I meant. He in fact is one of their best players at defending. Sir Harold.

    2. BECKS TO THE FUTURE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Moyesball

    3. x.jim.x
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Bit strong calling Royal “defensive minded”

  5. putana
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    is is worth being in trent or robbo? Feels a decent chance they are rested one of the games

  6. FantasyTony
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    First time I've watched a Spurs match in a while. They're awful.

    Liverpool must be fancying themselves for top 4 now.

    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Spurs were never getting top 4. It was Newcastle. It's between them. Maybe even Brighton

  7. Nas
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Every weekend I’m surprised at how boring spurs games are. During the week I forget and think ‘it was probably not that bad’ then the weekend comes around and it is that bad

  8. Zimo
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Think it might be time to move on from Kane. Spurs are just so average now.

    1. Tcheco
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      They’ve been average all season yet he keeps scoring

      1. A. PRISE
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Not since I bought him

        1. Tcheco
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Patience my friend. Kane scores today

  9. Tcheco
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Spurs are crap

    1. JBG
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      They really are, so happy MU didn't go for "a proven winner" like Conte.

      1. Tcheco
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Mourinho 2.0

  10. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    As long as Kane matches Haaland I’ll be happy, fingers crossed

  11. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kane can you please stop playing in midfield. You are a striker remember!

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Think he's Kante

    2. sulldaddy
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      This 100%

      He drifts so far back

      Its not like he has the speed to get back to the front edge of the attack

      He does score goals. But i dont enjoy watching him play

      1. gooberman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Typical example there. Spurs score from a break. Kane is still in the West Ham half when a defender scores. So annoying.

  12. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Got around 65 at the mo. Turned into a decent GW

  13. gooberman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Going Haaland over Rashford over the last few weeks has cost me 23pts. Somewhat excessive.

  14. Zimo
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Honestly what will Spurs do when Kane leaves next year? They'll never make top half again.

    1. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I think they're due a period in the wilderness. Lots of other teams on the up and gaining momentum

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I can see 2 sides. Might be better off selling and getting the money for him and son and completely rebuilding

    3. Tinkermania
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      You might be surprised how some clubs improve when they don't have to play to one person's strength anymore. Ithink they would be more solid and guaranteed top 4!

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        They don't play to his strengths

  15. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Bruno v Mahrez Corner

    Bruno: 3 + 12 = 15

    Mahrez: -4 + 2 + 12 + 0 (auto-sub eg Almiron 1) = 11

    1. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Moving for Bruno in GW22 was a positive.

      Bruno: 27
      GW22 - 12
      GW23 - 3
      GW24 - 12

      KDB: 18
      GW22 - 1
      GW23 - 15
      GW24 - 2

      Holding Bruno instead of getting KDB was a slight positive. 15 vs. 17[-4]. If you're keeping KDB it likely breaks even at least, but if you're selling KDB for a Liverpool players, slightly worse off.

      Mahrez: 15
      GW22 - 1
      GW23 - 14
      GW24 - 0

      Holding Bruno instead of getting Mahrez was a positive. 15 vs. 14[-4]. However it depends on your auto-sub. If it was Andreas (3) you're 1 point worse off - if it was Odegaard you actually win-out.

      All in all, bit too much in it. Fewer transfers used is a good thing. However may have lost some value in Bruno like me last night (-0.1m).

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        2* worse off.

        1. Ser Davos
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Interesting

          Think I did Salah to Bruno 22 off the top of my head

      2. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Also: Calcs. are assuming you got Bruno in GW22 and -then- did or do not move him on. If you didn't get him at all then you're of course worse off.

  16. DARK SIDE OF THE LOON
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    This Spurs performance is actually tempting me to retain KDB and get rid of Kane instead.

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      They are dismal

    2. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Chelsea are a poor team as well and kdb likely gets rested.

      1. MBK 42
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Chelsea are poor but they don’t concede many; Kane is moving into the departure lounge.

    3. Ser Davos
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Sacrificing Kane to tap into Pool for the upside DGW looks far more justifiable

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        A Pool forward is fools gold. Now players are returning from injury you have to consider rotation and effectively no DGW for Pool strikers .

        1. Ser Davos
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          the main problem is that Kane locks much of the necessary funds

    4. Shark Team
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      You should get rid of both imo

    5. Shultan
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Kane > Darwin could pay off

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Also more likely it won't

    6. WiredWeasel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Only a pint of Guinness is redeeming this match. It’s not the worst watch, but it would be interesting if you played this to someone, took the colour off the strips and asked who’s playing….and I think that’s because there doesn’t look a lot between the teams, yet one’s flirting with the relegation slots and the other has aspirations of top four finishing….

  17. Eleven Hag
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Last week went from rank of 30k to 40k for not owning Mahrez and Bruno blank.

    Now back to 30k from 40k for exactly the opposite.

    1. Shultan
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I own both but last week got red arrow due to kdb haul

  18. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    That ball from Kane...

  19. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    This match is garbage

    1. Shultan
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I know after watching the previous match.. this one is awful

    2. Vinyl78LP
      • 16 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, Spurs whole side is so unbelievably pedestrian - cant believe the home fans accept this.

  20. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    WC 27
    FH 28
    BB 29

    Looking more and more the play just to clear this guff out of my team.

    1. Zimo
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      WC26 even

      1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Yes … that is actually preferable … looking at the new team vs old.

    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      How many changes would you make on a wildcard?

      1. Zimo
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        I'm gonna be making 11 changes personally in WC26. I've gone all in on Liverpool in 25 just because of this plan.

  21. DavvaMC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    How did Tete play today is he an option to bring in?

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Might be later in season after 28

  22. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Which one?

    a)Thomas->Gabriel(-4) play Mahrez
    b)Mahrez->Odegaard(-4) play Thomas

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Assuming you mean Thomas at Leicester? Then yes as he isn’t a regular starter

      1. Old Wulfrunian
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        cheers.Yes that Thomas.Do you think that Odegaard could outscore both Mahrez+Gabriel in gw25?

        1. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I guess depends whether Mahrez plays v Bournemouth but personally I would rather have Mahrez Gabriel than Ødegaard Thomas

          1. Old Wulfrunian
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            thank you

  23. Scapegoat Salah
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    These moves good for -4?

    KdB to Gakpo
    Shaw to Trent
    Trippier to Robbo

    1. Scapegoat Salah
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Gets me XI players too

      1. FPL_trail_runner
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Id sell Kane tbh. Probably will too , hate when he plays with Richardilson , and they look a mess

        1. Scapegoat Salah
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          That is not an option

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I would still not be comfortable with double Liverpool defence- also if Liverpool blank in 28 if Fulham beat Leeds are you ok with your team

      1. Scapegoat Salah
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        They’ll be gone by then, thanks!

  24. FPL_trail_runner
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    The spurs issues making a pretty issue dgw solution of keeping KDB and getting Darwin and TAA for paterson and Kane

  25. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Worst signing of the season?

    Richarlison £60m
    Mudryk £100m

    1. FPL_trail_runner
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Buying the centre forward for Brazil who if Spurs wanted to sell would make a profit now and who will give them a viable replacement for Kane should he go is closer to the better buys this season than the worst.

    2. George Sillett
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Jorginho . Laughed off by Chelsea fans

      1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Who laughs now?

        1. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          I can assure you that Jorginho has been shocking for a long time .

          1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 1 month ago

            All of Chelsea have been shocking for years. Jorginho seems to be on the up and up after the move.

            1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              He looks happy. He might win some trophies with the biggest team in London.

              1. Zimo
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                This is the first and last year they have any chance of winning anything. Best hope they don't bottle it.

                1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
                  • 5 Years
                  3 years, 1 month ago

                  Sure Zimo. Sure

                  1. Zimo
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 1 month ago

                    Best of luck competing against AbuDhabi, SaudiArabia, and Qatar.

                    1. Zimo
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 1 month ago

                      I'm sure FSG can 😆

              2. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                Quite correct for once he won a Europa League & Champions League at the biggest team in London.

              3. George Sillett
                • 10 Years
                3 years, 1 month ago

                "He looks happy"
                Easy to make up something like that.
                Oh ....of course ......

            2. George Sillett
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 1 month ago

              "Shocking for years " . How many to be precise ?

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Richarlison a good signing and too early to comment on Mudryk

      1. DBW - Slug's Mortgage …
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        £100m for a winger who had 10 goals in a real farmers league.

        He’s looked so bad at Chelsea. As have all of the other signings and Potter.

        1. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          Ok so that’s your view

        2. George Sillett
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 1 month ago

          The World's greatest football analyst speaks. Listen up people . This is the man who stated that Nottingham Forest should " stick with the players who got them promoted " rather than signing a new squad . "Terrible club":were his words .

  26. Strchld
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Toney owners, are u keeping him? DGW27 but could get Darwin in who might be injured. Any idea? Worth doing Toney to Darwin if fit to play?

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I’m benching as I will want him back immediately

  27. squ1rrel
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    First benched Shaw last week, then Bruno this week 🙁

    1. g40steve
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Wow that’s terrible bench choices

      1. BobbyDoesNotLook
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 1 month ago

        Shaw last week was pretty sensible, for me it was for dgw Walker. Also Leeds had over 2.0xg. Bruno this week seems odd without more details.

    2. Not again Shirley
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure why you would bench Fernandes for Leicester at home.

  28. g40steve
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    How many players will you have for 25 & how many doubles?

    Who’s your Captain?

    Currently 10 players,

    6 doubles

    Saka or Ode Cap

    1. squ1rrel
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Pickford
      Moreno - Kilman - Gomez - Badiashile
      Salah(c) - Odegaard - Saka
      Kane - Haaland - Nketiah

      Took a -4

  29. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    Kane should move to a more successful and exciting club, like Newcastle or Brighton.

    1. A. PRISE
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      Or Wimbledon

  30. Corgz Dark side of the Loon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 1 month ago

    I'm having a terrible season. Tried to be cautious and no silly hits, but it simply not working.......
    Got 11 good players for GW 25, However had enough after another poor GW. Would you do this.....
    Kane, Kulu, KDB OUT.....
    Salah, Saka, Nunez IN....-8.....
    I Will wait on injury news and wait till after midweek cup games.

    1. Lieutenant Frank Columbo
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 1 month ago

      I would