The Knee Jerk
29 October 2011 3157 comments
Mark Mark
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The concept of a player being fixture proof in Fantasy football is a much discussed topic around these parts. Wayne Rooney put forward a strong case a few gameweeks back, defying United’s tricky opening to the season with a points tally that left all but Sergio Aguero in his wake. Today, Robin Van Persie perhaps presented even stronger evidence that, when a player has talent and form, no opposition can stand in their way.

Van Persie is certainly a force of nature right now. Seven goals in his last three games have propelled him to the top of every Fantasy manager’s most wanted list. The Dutchman, along with Rooney and Aguero, have all enjoyed devastating spells of form this season. Any Fantasy manager who has failed to catch at least one of them, surely finds themselves floundering.

Ironically, it’s Wayne Rooney who has been hugely overshadowed by Van Persie’s recent returns. Today at Goodison, Rooney dropped alarmingly deep, as Alex Ferguson charged Danny Welback and Javier Hernandez to push on. In Fantasy terms, certainly as far as our own ICT Index is concerned, Rooney suffered his least effective 90 minutes of the season – the numbers are there – our Members can see for themselves.

Van Persie meanwhile, made a mockery of the fixture list which told us that a trip to Chelsea would pose him problems; that perhaps he couldn’t maintain his recent form at Stamford Bridge. Friday night’s decision to go with Van Persie over Sergio Aguero in the Scout Picks wasn’t taken lightly. We suspected that the Chelsea defence would be unable to keep the Dutchman at bay. Nobody could have predicted the havoc he would cause, the delicious end product he would deliver.

In three games, Van Persie has returned 36 Fantasy Premier League points – a tally that will surely increase with bonus points on Monday and perhaps the award of an assist for Theo Walcott’s goal. In contrast, Rooney has produced 5 points over the same three gameweeks. When you throw in the captaincy, that’s a big swing and painful reading for those who held Rooney with faith that his undoubted talent and early season form would see him through.

Conveniently, then, that takes us full circle. While Van Persie has done so much today to prove the theory that, with class and form, the opposition is irrelevant, Rooney’s recent returns present strong evidence of the contrary. The matches against Liverpool, City and Everton looked tough for Rooney- five points is certainly proof of that. Another twist in what is rapidly becoming a fascinating Fantasy season.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Paul
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    are my 2 transfers for gw 11 okay???

    rooney > rvp
    demps > nani

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    1. teto
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      yes

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    2. SC not pearls before swine
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      Yesh. Though maybe should wait on the Nani one because it looks like he'll fall a bit. Rooney to RvP on the double.

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      1. Paul
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        didnt get u on the last part.....

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        1. SC not pearls before swine
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          RvP's price is going up. Rooney and nani's are going down.

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    3. Paul
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      my other 2 fwds being aguero nd suarez.......should i keep rooney nd take out aguero for rvp???

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      1. RoyaleBlue
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        NO!!!!

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  2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    what has happened to chelsea's defence this season

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    1. Kostja
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      Its intersting, since when at AVB vas in charge of Porto than they conceded twice as little as other teams. So its not like he cant coach defense.

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  3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    AVB already has the standard beleaguered look of a chelsea manager about him

    usually takes a bit longer

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  4. The Bandit
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Nothing against RVP but the commentary that it was 'a brilliant hattrick' is a bit generous.. the first two were handed on a plate and even the last, good finish that it was, came from a 4 v 2 break.

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    1. alsybach
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      EVERY hattrick is brilliant.................

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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      any hat trick is brilliant

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      1. The Bandit
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        Getting a hattrick is brill, doesn't mean the quality of the hattrick is though... Not the same thing

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        1. Kostja
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          14 years, 2 months ago

          Suarez would have gotten 1 goal max with those chances. So its brilliant how he took them.

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  5. FPL SWOT
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Van Persie - in people's opinion, do you reckon he'll be given the assist for Walcott's goal (Arsenal's third) as he layed the free-kick off before the mazey run, didn't he?

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    1. Fray Bentos
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      so he was the last arsenal player to touch the ball before the goal was scored by walcott? thats an fpl assist then

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    2. Arsenals Number 10
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      yes he will get it a total of 19 points 4 him

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    3. FPLCEO
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      YEP

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    4. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      yeah prob get it, only negative point was the slip. If only I capt him.........
      Still got VDV to come and hope he runs amok

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    5. alsybach
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      hope so!!!!!!

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  6. Arsenals Number 10
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Ageuro bonus points yes or no ?

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    1. Optimus.
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      didnt score toss between him and silva for the 1 point i think

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        Silva more than one, a class act.

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        1. Fray Bentos
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          14 years, 2 months ago

          being a class act has nothing to do with the fpl bonus system

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          1. Crouch Potato!
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            Very true, but I do believe that system is flawed in certain areas.

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    2. alsybach
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      no no no

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    3. applebonkers
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      definite no

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  7. Arsenals Number 10
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    martin petrov and nani are frustrating me way too much

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    1. IceMan DB
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      I'm thinking of getting Nani in this week for Mata, don't have any United coverage!

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      1. Arsenals Number 10
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        united coverage is vital over the next few weeks but thay are off form

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    2. Crouch Potato!
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      And de other Petrov scores,

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  8. Jake9
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Rooney or Aguero?

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  9. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    what's everyone doing with their extra hour?

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  10. Oliver Reed
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    is there a reason why people are transferring out odemwingie., was he injured or just crap..he has a decent run of games coming up..

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    1. The Bandit
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Very poor today, but has had bad days before many good ones. Not for me though.

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      1. Crouch Potato!
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        WBA were dreadful,thought they would have a real go!

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    2. Optimus.
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      too many better options

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      you only get 3 strikers spots

      i cannot imagine wanting odem in one of them

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      1. Oliver Reed
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        who would you recommend getting sturridge out for, 7.3m to spend..

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        1. Optimus.
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          14 years, 2 months ago

          stick with him vs blackburn then think of getting rid

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  11. Twelve years a slave
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Just dumped Rooney for VP fed uo with him , he not as essential to united as VP is to Arsenal.
    Roon may well score a few but im pleased to be rid

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    1. Shipstontrev
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      +1

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        Just wish i had done it few weeks earlier , was too tight to spend four points , that backfired badly

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  12. fatherted
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    I know there is probably a rule that says so(cant see from my mob) but Kompany was sent off before rhe pen was scored so should he get clean sheet bonus...ps not straw clutching

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    1. cechmate
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Nope, players get the double punishment of goals conceded counting against them even after they've been sent off.

      Evans ended up on -5 last week!

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      1. fatherted
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        Ah well. suppose I will have to be content with 45 points plus ade vdv and rvp extras

        hey ho

        ga

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  13. Geezer
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Please rate my current team for next GW:

    Krul (Vorm)
    Enrique P. Jones Simpsons (Barnett) (Naylor)
    VDV Silva Ramsey Tiote (N. Dyer)
    Adebayor Rooney Van Persie

    Got 0.9m in the bank, and 1 free transfer?
    Help and tips appreciated!

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    1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Adebayor to Suarez if you can as you already have VDV cover

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      1. Geezer
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        hmm. don`t know. just brought Ade in. What about Tiote to Cleverly?

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        1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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          14 years, 2 months ago

          rather have walters if you can afford as fixtures great and on pens and plays up front

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  14. Ninjaa
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    got funds for both

    1) suarez > rvp
    or
    2) rooney > rvp

    thinking of 1 as rooney has better upcoming fixtures?

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    1. Arsenals Number 10
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      ya do 1

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  15. Fray Bentos
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    thoughts on chico as united cover for the next few? cheaper than rooney and hopefully will keep his place. is berb likely to make a showing any time soon?

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    1. Corrigan
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Man Utd's FPL options are dwindling by the second. Chico may be a decent shout, but at the expense of Aguero, RVP etc. ?

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  16. Arsenals Number 10
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Junior Holliet is the best of a bad lot one to watch

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      By a long, long way. Surprised he wasn't linked with more teams in the transfer window. Good enough for Liverpool/Spurs/Arsenal with a bit more development.

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  17. Alonso14
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    best midfielder for 6m or less????? thanks in dvance

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    1. Arsenals Number 10
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      drenthe

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  18. Andy
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    The nonchalance of the take on that Steve Morison goal makes it just perfect.

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    1. heartsattack
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      It was a top class strike. If that was Rooney or Aguero much more would have been said about it on TV.

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      1. Corrigan
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        Always rated Morison. Playing non league a while back and when I saw him for Millwall I was very impressed. He's very dangerous. Millwall are missing him now.

        FPL wise the bonus and lack of MF/DF options mean you can't really consider the likes of him and Graham as your third striker.

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  19. Scroobius Mac
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Does it annoy anybody else when players have the wrong number for thier position?
    Morison being 5 made me think of this but why has Gallas been 10 at Arsenal and Spurs?

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    1. They call me Mr. Glass
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      This is football not the GAA

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  20. Arsenals Number 10
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    what a random handball nzonzi

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  21. RoyaleBlue
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    20.9 mil for striker defender mid who shud i get in taking fixtures in to account

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Erm Jones, Ramsey and Bendtner?

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      1. RoyaleBlue
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        14 years, 2 months ago

        Sorry i ment keeper striker mid not defender

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  22. applebonkers
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    such an obvious penalty at the end there
    "he's just appealing for a foul and it hits him" so what, play to the whistle and don't dangle your arms out in an unnatural position

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  23. Corrigan
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    1. Anybody who WCed in the last week - how did you get on?

    2. Anybody WCing this week?

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    1. They call me Mr. Glass
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      I had a bad week and would like to wildcard,but I think it is best to wait at least a week as their is an international break coming up

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    2. Mull
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Next week methinks.

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  24. applebonkers
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    great vision by aguero with that assist, picked out dzeko a treat

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  25. Corrigan
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    3. Nani - off form is one thing, but not getting into the side with Valencia and Young not playing is another. He's been a nightmare for me this season, both points and price wise in contrast to last season. What to do? No point having coverage for coverage sake.

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    1. cechmate
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      I've gone without Utd cover for the last 5 weeks and got away with it. If you don't back a team to perform you don't need coverage.

      Hernandez and defenders are the only Utd coverage I'd consider

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    2. Mull
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Yes but they are the champions and he destroyed teams at Old Trafford last year.

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  26. SC not pearls before swine
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Sturridge and Nani are basically the same player. Both play wing for a top 4 side. Both will be rotated because they don't play defense. Both will sink my fantasy team.

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    1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      the 2 players i'm thinking of transferring next week lol

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    2. Manamongst
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Which is why I didn't buy into the Sturridge/Nani on form arguments...silliness. Sturridge looked like hot trash out there. Ramires looked way more effective in Sturridge's position when he leaked over there. He gave the ball away trying to beat a Brazilian that wasn't having it. I can see several players falling out of favor, and Anelka was only the start. Meireles must have a solidified spot, they don't keep clean sheets anymore because they don't value possession. I will say that Nani is a more skilled player than Sturridge, by far. It's getting to the point where it would be smarter for Nani to move on. he's not at the C Ronaldo level but he is being weighed down now.

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  27. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Andre Santos is just a wannabe Kolarov.

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      14 years, 2 months ago

      Aren't we all?

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    2. Optimus.
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      who will take kompanys place for next couple weeks toure?

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      1. Scroobius Mac
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        Kompany is only suspended for the next game. Same deal as Bos.

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        1. Optimus.
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          cheers for the heads up

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  28. Cruicky
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    Tbh, Hart should have saved that and not parried it.

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  29. Beadling Boy
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    14 years, 2 months ago

    Who do you all like better, Swansea's Joe Allen, or Norwich's Bradley Johnson?

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    1. Optimus.
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      allen looks great at his price cant knock it

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      1. Beadling Boy
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        Thanks, Optimus. Both are at 4.5 and both have a couple of assists and a couple of goals. However, Allen has earned a few more BP's.

        So, you'd take Allen over Johnson?

        Thanks, again.

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  30. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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    does AJ only ever score from the edge of the box?!

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