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1 October 2016 1791 comments
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Saturday’s early kick-off is a significant one.

Liverpool park up at the Liberty Stadium with their rich array of midfield talent heavily backed by Fantasy managers.

Adam Lallana is the latest flavour of the month – snapped up by 195460 new owners heading into Friday’s deadline, the former Saint will be looking to maintain flourishing early season form.

Phillipe Coutinho is just a few thousand behind his team-mate in terms of transfer traffic this week, as the Brazilian goes on defying his initial price tag to challenge the genuine heavy-hitters.

Both returned double figures in the 5-1 demolition of Hull City but, just maybe, it could be Roberto Firmino’s turn this time around.

Tipped as our weapon of choice heading into the season, we’ve since elevated Sadio Mane above him in our Watchlist rankings.

In truth, at this point, none of us can be certain on the one single member of Klopp’s midfield to target. We’re all hoping that today’s encounter will shed some light on the problem.

That’s presuming that Swansea City have read the script.

Swans’ boss Francesco Guidolin appears to be clinging to his job and that might just spur a determined display – they certainly showed enough against Chelsea and Manchester City to indicate that this will not be an easy afternoon for the visitors.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Firmino only one bap with a goal and assist? This baps system is just a joke every game

    1. Numb
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      How has Rangel got 2 baps???

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      We know what the system entails though. Can't complain.

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Just baffling as to how a defender conceding 2 goals and giving away a penalty can get more bonus than the guy who scored and assisted

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          The only way to 'fix' it would be to go back to the man in the stand baps. Statistical baps will always cause these issues.

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Exactly. Rangel performed well throughout the game (statistically at least) and that's how bonus is allocated.

            If it automatically went to goal scorers there'd be no point in bonus at all.

    3. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Rondon got me 1 bap with a goal and assist in the Brom-WHam game, but at least that was understandable. This is ridiculous.

    4. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I thought Firmino was rubbish tbf.

      He got points for the goal and assist, doesn't mean he deserves baps.

      1. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Firmino was brilliant but maybe that's because i'm a Liverpool supporter

        1. HNI
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Who you reckon for fpl from Firmino/Coutinho? Please dont be biased just from todays game

        2. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          I thought Clyne was your best player, Milner second, then Coutinho.

          Even Mane looked more creative imo.

      2. HNI
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        +1...So Coutinho/Firmino which to go for FPL wise? I saw game and although Coutinho looked best player in the team, Firmino just hovered over penalty area the most...

        1. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          I prefer Firmino for FPL.

    5. HNI
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Its the most complete system I have seen ever...Rangel was wrong with conceding penalty but was spectacular otherwise...Tackling, interceptions and even some crosses and chance creation...It rewards overall play not just result

  2. Numb
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What were Jonty's moves for -8?

    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ozil > Alexis
      Firmino > Lallana
      Baines > PVA

      1. Numb
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Jesus. Mark is going to have a field day.

      2. Numb
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Think he should stick to being a dullard!

    2. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Firmino > Lallana
      Baines > PVA
      Ozil > Sanchez

    3. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      In: Sanchez PVA Lallana

      Out: Firmino Ozil Baines

    4. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ozil, Firmino, Baines ➡ Sanchez, Lallana, PvA

      I think - just going off his tweets

    5. ST United
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Honestly who even cares

  3. TheCardinal
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    A goal and an assist. 1 BP.
    Ridiculous.

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Why?

    2. TheCardinal
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I would assume in a 2-1 win, getting the equalizer and getting the pen for the winner should fetch max bps..but then again, no expert on how they calculate it

  4. Emiliano Sala
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What will be final bps? Any site for latest bps ?

  5. ChildishFirmino and Lallana…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    this is what I worte to FPL with the title Game bug:

    Hello. In the game between Swansea City and Liverpool played on the 1st of October The player Angel Rangel from Swansea is about to receive 2 BPS for conceding a penalty and 2 goals as a defender 🙂 Meanwhile the player Roberto Firmino from Liverpool who scored a goal and assisted another receives only one. Are you serious? Congratulations.

    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      😆 😆 😆

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        ^ this!

      2. ChildishFirmino and Lallana…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        just tweeted it to them as well

    2. SMELL MY CHEESE YOU MOTHER
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Christ

    3. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Already? Way to go!!

  6. Alexkj
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Boys - mix of thanks and humblebragging but with your help I'm having an absolute stormer this year!

    Overall 6k, and took a punt and captained Firmino!

    1. ChildishFirmino and Lallana…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      captained Firmino as well but instead of getting extra 4 pts from bonus system (2x2) I will probably be getting 2 🙂

  7. Baked baines
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I had a major rant last night with Benteke having no bps. Now I see Firmino is managing to hold on to just 1 and Rangel is on 2.
    This system is screwed up!!!!!

    1. ST United
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lol love it

  8. Les Bleus
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Milner 1 shot = 3 BAPs

    1. Kaneyonero
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      And lukaku assist

    2. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      If it's a PK goal then yes.

  9. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    3BP Milner 43
    2BP Rangel 37
    1BP Firmino 36

    For those who didn't see

    1. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Rangel won't get anything once they update it

  10. BB-8
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Hahaha Firmino less bps than Range who conceded 2 gave away the pen and didn't even get the assist. I give up.

    1. ChildishFirmino and Lallana…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      if this stays like that I give up as well... besides the fact that it's more than 70 percent luck this game, they have stuff like this as well..

    2. Kanga roo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      poor babies

  11. Arceus
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    McNair OOP

    McNair Essential

    1. Long Juan Silva
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Not sure where you've got that 2nd one from

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Would be essential if he was 4.0

      1. Long Juan Silva
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        not when he's still not nailed

  12. Jet5605
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    33 points so far but had 3 Everton and 2 Liverpool.
    Hoping Antonio and Deeney do the biz

  13. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Hold on, wait wait wait... McNair CM?

    1. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yes that's his position.

  14. Nabs Kebabs
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Milner looks set to score 10 goals this season

    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      At least

    2. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Firmino/Sturridge/Mane/Coutinho are going to win lots of penalties over the course of the season

  15. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Who's playing at Left Back for West Ham?

    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Byram I'm pretty sure

      1. HammersFan
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ogbonna

        Byram rb

      2. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Who's the other full back?

    2. AYEW KI-EDEN MEE
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ogbonna

  16. Ne0
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    So will any potential Firmino rise be completely hindered by Milner being Liverpool's top scoring mid?

  17. Lallana_
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    4 goals, 4 assists this season from James Milner.
    Sure he'll get a few more pens along the way. Not a bad price either.

    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      4 assists?

      1. Lallana_
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Twitter lied 🙁

    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      1 assist

      1. Lallana_
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        BBCSporf tweeted it. My bad.

    3. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Yet not enough space. Not going to pray for a PK every week

    4. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Shame he isn't a defender

    5. mikess
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Only 1 assist. Calamity Moreno played first game too so worth bearing that in mind for his points total

  18. Slam
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Just wanted to congratulate those who held on to Firmino, keeping the faith is always important.
    Especially this season it seems

    1. ST United
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lol @ only 1 BP

      1. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah but a goal and an assist more importantly

      2. @persecuted_by_mods
          9 years, 3 months ago

          We'll cry ourselves to sleep with 1 goal and 1 assist

    2. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Antonio really playing as striker?

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        According to West Ham's Twitter

      2. Bellerinmondo
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Looks like it!

    3. Danstoke82
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Finally some Firmino points!

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        yay at last

    4. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Im pretty sure the baps will change

    5. Bellerinmondo
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Pva.
      Injured ?
      Dropped ?
      Mysterious heart condition ?
      Moyes doesn't play Fpl ?

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        All of the above

      2. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        on bench so dropped you'd have to assume

      3. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        He plays FPL but his rival has PVA.

        1. Nabs Kebabs
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          90th min sub so rival doesn't get an auto sub surely

          1. Bellerinmondo
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Would match my 1 from Amat anyway

      4. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Jonty brought him in 😐

      5. Bellerinmondo
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Pva against tired legs

      6. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Snaking managers daughter

      7. Halftime
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Should be played on the wing really

    6. ramunas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Why's PVA benched?

      1. Revival
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Sunderland desparate for a clean sheet so John O'Shea in the team

      2. Moss
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        He was poor against Palace

    7. Jasoooooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Wait, where's McNair playing??? I swear he's playing at CM?? If so, he could be a good OOP option in defence

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        If he's any more than 4 million he's not worth it

    8. Lallana_
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Rangel bottled it for us Firmino owners. He probably would have scored that if he didn't take him out so he would have been on two goals + 3 bonus. Now he has the audacity to take a bonus point from Firmino too. He should have got a yellow card there 😆

    9. Ziro
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Relax guys, Firmino winning-goal-assist bps yet to be added.

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        and never will be 😉

    10. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Holy shiiiit
      Collins playing and Antonio striker? I must be dreaming

    11. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      firmino down to 33bps

    12. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Guys need to calm down over 1 point. There's obviously a reason Rangel has got them baps. (Firmino owner)

      1. Fitzy.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        What is it?

    13. GuillermoDickero
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Looking at lineups - want to check I'm seeing this right!

      Antonio is playing striker?

      And McNair is playing CM/Cam?

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Wait 22 minutes