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Auction Based Fantasy Football

It’s struck me over the years that I’ve been following the Scout that the auction-based side of the game has been woefully neglected/under-represented, so I’ve decided to put that right with my first ever article which will talk you through what it is and how to go about playing it successfully*.

*by successfully, I mean enjoyably, as sadly I can’t guarantee you ‘success’!

What is auction-based fantasy football?

It’s fantasy football, Jim, but not as you know it if you’ve only ever played FPL, Sky, or newspaper games.

Players have no predetermined price; how much a player costs you is entirely down to how much other managers are prepared to make you pay.

You get together with a load of friends and/or work colleagues, preferably in licensed premises, and build your squads for the coming year.  Each manager has the same starting pot and you take it in turns to nominate a player with an opening bid (which can be zero), after which bids can be made by other managers until all bidding is done and the auctioneer brings down their gavel. I’ve been playing this for two decades through fantasyleague, the people who introduced fantasy football to the UK, with several leagues in my workplace which allows for promotion and relegation between the divisions; in my opinion, it smashes the other forms of the game into the long grass.

I already play FPL so why would I want to do this?

Quite simply, it’s the purest form of fantasy football and, dare I say it, the most fun.  Your squad is unique to you; no two managers can have the same players.  There are no template teams.  Let me ask you this: how much genuine joy do you get out of seeing Aguero, who you’ve captained, score a hattrick, knowing that every single one of your mates/league members (and probably 95% of the wider FPL community) also has Aguero and has captained him too?  Imagine a scenario where you’re the only manager in your league who has Aguero.

It’s something which is pretty rare in FPL unless you’ve taken a complete flyer on a player and are the only person to own them.  And even then, you know that everyone will swoop to get that player in their team for the following week, so the joy is relatively short-lived.  A number of seasons back, most of my fellow managers thought I’d sneezed when I picked up Michu for free, and then had to watch on with regret as he had that incredible first season……

Isn’t it the same as the draft game?

Not quite.  With a draft, you don’t have to pay for a player so if it’s your turn and that player hasn’t gone, you get him.  With the auction, whilst you can propose any player you wish when it comes to your turn, you only win that player if you’re the highest bidder when the bidding ends.

I’m ultra-competitive: how do I win?!

Here are my tips for a successful auction:

Do your prep

I realise that if you’re reading this, it’s probably because you’re someone who already takes their fantasy football relatively seriously, and doubtless I’m teaching my granny to suck eggs.  However, prep before the auction is crucial.  I don’t think I’ve ever attended an auction where we haven’t ended up laughing at some poor sap who has just paid good money for a player who injured themselves last week and will miss the first half of the season.  Or where they are in the process of packing their cases for their dream move to Real Madrid.

You should think not just about who you want but also at what price.  It’s all well and good saying to yourself that you’ll have Aguero at any cost, but what if another manager has the same idea and the two of you end up bidding yourselves up to a ridiculous level?  Determine pre-set levels at which a player no longer represents value for money.

Look too at players’ susceptibility to get injured.  Remember, this isn’t FPL; if Salah gets ruled out for half the season, you can’t simply swap him for Mane (unless, by some miracle, Mane is still a free agent) and do you even want to risk dropping Salah on the basis that someone else may decide it’s worth carrying a crock for a few months given what that crock can do once he’s back on the pitch?  You cannot legislate for freak injuries but if you know that someone has a dodgy hamstring/knee/ankle and only needs to be doing up their boots to tweak something, either avoid them or set yourself a lower limit on what you’d be prepared to pay for them.

Think about which players will play in televised games.  Unlike FPL, fantasyleague allow you to make substitutions between games, meaning that you can, in principle, play more than 11 players over a weekend.  Nowadays, with the vast number of televised fixtures, this problem is less common, but there’s nothing more frustrating than having to pick three out of five strikers because they’re all playing at the same time, and seeing the two you’ve left on the bench bang in the goals while the three you’ve chosen blank.

Know your fellow managers

Fantasy football should be a game devoid of emotion except for when you are screaming at the tv when your player hits the post instead of the back of a gaping goal, or your triple Liverpool defence concede a consolation goal in the fifth minute of injury time.  However, not every manager approaches it in this way.  Your mate who is a Spurs season ticket holder couldn’t live with himself if he didn’t have Harry Kane in his squad.  This means that you’re probably not going to get him (unless said mate has already blown too much of his budget on other players and doesn’t have enough to outbid you) but you certainly don’t want this Spurs fan paying anything less than top dollar for Kane.  Knowing your friends’ weaknesses for certain players lets you either rule them out in your pre-auction prep or set yourself an inflation-adjusted price, given that you know someone else will be doing everything they can to get that player.  It’s dog-eat-dog at the auction and the less you telegraph which players you desperately want (as opposed to those you’d be happy to own; a bid, after all, indicates a certain level of desire!), the fewer times you’ll find yourself wanting to slap another manager for bidding you up out of spite.

Be prepared to scramble

I’ve never, in my 21 seasons of playing fantasyleague, had an auction go exactly to plan.  As Robbie Burns famously said, the best laid plans of mice and men often get messed up by drunken idiots bidding too much for that player you really wanted.  You’ll think to yourself beforehand ‘no one will dare go over £Xm for Y’ and then before you know it, that’s exactly what’s happened.  In those situations you’re faced with two choices: shake your head and magnanimously (and smugly) let the other manager get the player at what you know is too high a price; or grit your teeth, man up, and go even higher, knowing that only hindsight in nine months’ time will tell you which decision was right.

Don’t get too drunk

It’s a recipe for disaster and will cause unwelcome flashbacks every time you look at your team over the coming season.

Anything else we need to do before the auction?

Absolutely.  Think carefully about what local rules you want for your league both for the auction and for when the season starts.

If you’re playing with 15 other friends, you may not want to all pick squads of 18 players because a) the auction will go on all night (long before the end of which, everyone will have lost the will to live) and b) there’s little point in managers having to pick up a defensive midfielder from a promoted club who gets a nosebleed every time he crosses the halfway line.

Decide how/when managers can transfer in and out players from the leftovers from the auction; do you want a free-for-all whereby it’s a race over the first weekend to transfer in that season’s Michu or Yaya Toure?  These things are REALLY important if you want everyone to stay friends. Determine too what happens with new players transferred in post-auction; perhaps carry over any unspent funds from the auction and add them to a new pot for each manager to spend/bid on new players during the season.

This all sounds too good to be true so what are the drawbacks?

Ok, so in the interests of full disclosure, here’s the principal kicker: it’s pretty difficult to turn things around if it’s clear that you’ve selected a squad of complete turkeys at the auction, or have put all your eggs in only a few baskets by splashing all your money on Salah, Aguero and Sterling, only for all three of them to collide with one another on the opening weekend and get season-ending injuries.  On that latter basis alone, it’s worth hedging your bets and spreading the money around your squad, at least as much as you dare whilst still getting in some big hitters.

This version of the game is all about the auction and if you’re playing against other managers worth their salt, the player list will be picked bare before the season starts, so don’t expect to be able to ship out too many players post-auction and replace them with big scorers, notwithstanding the few unforeseen gems who come to light over the first few weekends.

Conclusion

Another drawback: whether or not you follow my advice above, you’ll probably have a stonking hangover the next day.  Auctions are enormous fun but are also tense, taut affairs.  However you approach it though, enjoy yourself and relish the fact that it’s a football-focussed evening with your mates, the kind of which don’t come around that frequently for some of us..

Clouseau Serious (for which you can read \'stressy\') fantasy football fan. Have been playing the auction-based version with its unique squads (fantasyleague.com) for over 20 years but more recently branched out into FPL. Follow me on Twitter @FFSClouseau

63 Comments Post a Comment
  1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Been playing this for 5 years over on Fantrax (with a customized ruleset) and it's leagues above any other format for me. I barely pay attention to FPL anymore - all the time / attention goes into the Fantrax league.

    Looking forward to the other articles in the series (which hopefully add more elements of strategy for this season in particular).

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Thank you. If there’s sufficient interest then I’d be very happy to produce further articles both before the start of the season and once it has got going.

  2. The 5% Team
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Nice read, thanks.
    I play NBA auction fantasy basketball game, but never found (or searched for) a football version.

  3. Clouseau
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Cheers. If you like it then it's well worth checking out fantasyleague (my connection is only emotional and not professional or financial!); the beauty of their game, for me, lies in its simplicity. A goal gets 3 points, irrespective of who scores it. An assist 2 points, ditto on the assist provider. No minus points for cards or missed pens. Having said that, their pre-season info suggests that they will let leagues set their own scoring systems if they want to have these additional factors or have different positions score differently (e.g. a defender getting more points for a goal than a striker), but my leagues will definitely shy away from this and stick to the tried and tested (and basic). It's one of my frustrations with FPL that I can't tell instantly from a match report how my players have got on, because it won't take into accounts baps, cards, saves etc, but each to their own.....

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Sorry, reply fail to The 5% Team

  4. Geoff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I'll definitely be looking into this 🙂

    1. Fpl JJ
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Would you set a ffs one up?

      1. Geoff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah 🙂

        1. Fpl JJ
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Let me know if u do, will definitely join

  5. Draft Fantasy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Draft Fantasy also offers an auction game for those interested (draftfantasyfootball.co.uk).

    1. Elfozzie 42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Hey Draft Fantasy - interested to hear more, do you have a contact?

    2. Fpl JJ
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Behind a pay wall though

  6. Nickemon
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Sounds amazing!

    How do you keep the interest in the game for an entire season? Is that an issue at all?

    You mentioned divisions with relegation and promotion? How do you set that up?

    My only issue is that there arent more than like 3 of my mates who would be interested; most of them are casuals.

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      You keep the interest because there’s always something to play for, be it aiming for the top, trying to get a 'European' spot (fantasyleague has cross-league head to head competitions for the top three placed teams in each league from the former season) or avoiding relegation. My workplace has three divisions so newbies start in the bottom league and hope to work their way up to the top flight over a couple of seasons. We determine the league compositions ourselves so relegation and promotion is something we do off our own bats.
      You also need to appreciate the difference in this game: in fpl, if you’re at the top, it’s easier to hold onto top spot by replicating, as much you’re able, your main opponents' teams; in an auction-based game there’s always the chance that the top team's players will stop scoring and I’ve seen it countless times where someone leading by a country mile at Christmas sees their team stall and gets overtaken.
      In terms of your problem with only a few mates interested, you may find that there are others in a similar position with whom you could team up. As I said, I don’t have any connection to fantasyleague to know if they can fix you up with small groups in your vicinity but I can’t believe yours is a unique situation so they may well help with 'matchmaking'. If you do go for it, good luck and enjoy!

  7. DavidRouse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    I’ve also been playing the auction based game at fantasyleague.com since 1997 and I can honestly say it’s the highlight of any game I play. The auction is a brilliant night and we’ve been going away for it as a group of mates every year. The teal differential is the single ownership element where only one of you owns that star player and in a league of between 5-15 you actually care about winning it (and have a chance) as opposed to thinking finishing in the top 10,000 people is good.

    1. DavidRouse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      I forgot to say that FFS membership is brilliant, even though I have to convert the projected points into the points scoring system for the auction game. Amazing level of detail.

      1. Clouseau
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        This is my first year as a member but I’m hoping to do precisely that. I also hope it will help me uncover the hidden gems which other managers will overlook - last year it was Ryan Fraser who had me feeling all smug

  8. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Good write up.
    Playing a legacy auction game which is very interesting.

    The Auction part is brilliant fun and highly recommended but you need committed players to make it work properly - as in all online when agreed,

    Haven't played an online format as such, the one we do is run by the marvel that is 'Diva' and it uses FPL for all points and data.

    The FPL draft game is really poor which is a great shame.

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Agree that you need commitment (finding a mutually convenient date can be like herding cats!) but I’ve only ever done it in a pub, and who doesn’t love a night in the pub with mates?! It’s genuinely the highlight of my year as well as one of the most momentous as it dictates my mood every weekend for the next nine months!!

  9. Vobinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Is this something where you'd need a group of mates that are also interested to join?

    So with nobody else I know interested, is there scope for an FFS auction league? Or do others play in public leagues or something?

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      That sounds like an excellent idea - I’m sure there must be others here who, like yourself, would like to play but don’t have sufficient numbers. I just had a look on the fantasyleague website and whilst it’s not something I’ve ever used, they can do an online auction so you wouldn’t even need to be in the same geographical vicinity, as long as you could agree on a mutually-convenient time.
      So yes, ideally you do it with a load of mates in a pub, but if you want to play then it shouldn’t be impossible.....

    2. Fpl JJ
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      could always join online if u needed

  10. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    FPL draft is such a shame - just didn’t work at all last season. I cheated my way to victory by being the only one in the league who made y trades - a big plus in blanks and doubles.

    Quite like the look of my backline this time around

    Ederson
    Vvd Robbo Laporte Digne Pereira

    1. Vobinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed.

      I was 300 points ahead in one league at midway point, then I revisited in GW38 and was 20 points behind. (Leaving it through all the blanks and doubles didnt help I guess)

      I made some changes, and managed to overtake so didn't take much.

    2. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      My problem with a draft game is the fact that every player has the same value (zero). Assuming everyone has equal ‘skill’, you end up (in a league of 8 managers) with the 1st, 9th, 17th etc best players, or even 1st, 16th, 17th, 32nd. You could do that with an auction but, equally, if you want to blow your whole budget on the best four players, you can do that (in principle, anyway) and then fill your team with the dregs.
      Amazing defence, by the way!!

  11. Jackpot777
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    This is brilliant, thank you. I’ve been playing Fantasyleague for 6 years now and we’ve grown it to two leagues with promotion and relegation and our own customised ruleset for this year.

    It’s completely replaced my FPL team and auction day is just an amazing event. I’d highly recommend it to anyone who hasn’t tried it.

    Please keep these coming!

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks mate, really appreciate it. It’ll be great to exchange notes before and after the auction and, as I’ve already said, if there’s interest then I’d be delighted to produce more articles. I’d also be really interested to hear what customised rules you’ve gone for?

      1. Jackpot777
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Happy to compare notes anytime.

        We've looked to try and make the players that weren't particularly valuable or interesting in terms of transfers and trade more viable. So we've added save points and pen saves for keepers and clean sheets (2 pts) for DMs (with no penalty for coals conceded), fantasyleague has a list of designated dms this year you can use from our discussions with the site.Our hope is that whilst GKs and DMs (bar perhaps 4/5)are never going to set the auction alight even with those changes, those last few hours where everyone is low on budget and trying to pick up value on the fly, might now include some of those DMs to broaden out the player pool. We found last year players who would have been in that DM role just didnt get picked. In a 9 team league with squads of 15/16 that means the available trade players are lower than we'd like.

        We're still agreeing those changes with members, but the founders are keen and so far reception seems good.

        1. Clouseau
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          I like that fantasyleague are moving with the times although I suspect we’ll stick to the existing/old system, at least for the time being, not least because it’s proving too tricky to get everyone with a vested interest together before the auctions.
          In terms of comparing notes, if Geoff is ok with it then I was thinking that future articles could look at advance auction strategies and tactics, what makes a great fantasyleague player compared to an FPL player (they’re mostly the same but there are some subtle differences which it’s important to understand), and once the season has started, perhaps we could have weekend previews/reviews which include player 'clinics' to look at potential replacements for injured or underperforming players.
          I’d also be very interested (because I’m a shameless geek!) to assimilate the prices paid (based on % of auction budget given that not everyone will have the same budget) for at least the big name players from folks on this site who are playing an auction-based game and see how they compare to the FPL starting prices....

          1. Jackpot777
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Well our auction is early this year (13th July) to accommodate everyone, so happy to compare notes after.

            Quite looking forward to the many many rounds of weekly sealed bids before the season starts though. I think you can really improve your team by spending wisely and out thinking others at that stage!

          2. Jackpot777
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Clouseau - perhaps we could help set up a resource to aid players in finding a team? Even if we just list members of FFS who are in leagues that are happy to consider new players.

            Should probably also add that certainly if anyone lives near Norfolk, our leagues would be happy to consider newcomers who are keen! Although our auction is all day on 13th July this year, which may well be too short notice!

            We might also set up a league podcast this year. I can never find any good auction related pods, so thought maybe we could start one.

            Lots of interesting things we could do if we can start a mini-community here!

            1. Clouseau
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Sounds like a terrific idea and I’ll sound out Geoff to see if he’d be ok with our using this site as the vehicle for doing that.
              I’m quite envious that your auction is so soon but it would be awesome if you could give me a readout of the prices please as I’ll start to assimilate the averages across as many auctions as we can muster. Please also post a link to your podcast as I’d love to give it a listen.

              1. Fpl JJ
                • 5 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Draftiola did some good rankings , you should check him out on twitter

            2. Geoff
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 11 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Great idea

  12. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Used to play this every year with mates. Auction day was the highlight of the year. Everyone would meet up and have great banter,food,drink.

    I remember one year one lad had to pay a visit. He left his team in the hands of his wife. When he came back he found that he’d bought Alan Smith (Man Utd) for 35m . Lol.

    We’d pushed the bidding up and up knowing the lass fancied Smithy.

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      That’s brilliant. I act as auctioneer for the bottom league and I often don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I see two newbies bidding themselves up and up for some hopeless player or when someone gets a star player for next to nothing.

      1. FY
        • 4 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        I’m an auctioneer for a work league and play in a private mates league (one thing I will say is it gets very confusing if you try and play more than one auction team - tried it one year and all teams suffered!)

        Would be very interested to compare notes before the auctions, we are aiming to do ours on 8th August, day before the season starts.

        1. Clouseau
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          We're also aiming to have our top league auction on 8th August so that we can include all the players after the transfer window has closed.
          I've also done the same thing as you in running a mates league alongside the work one but found it made my brain crash because it couldn’t cope (given that I had two completely different teams) with the benefit of one team being at the detriment of the other! It’s one of the problems I have with playing FPL because I end up trying to replicate my fantasyleague team as much as I can but that’s a very bad tactic in terms of trying to do well in FPL!
          In terms of exchanging notes, I won’t repeat it all but it’s in my response to Jackpot777 above.

      2. The 12th Man
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        One year unbeknown to everyone David Beckham went undrafted. We all thought he had been bought. The auctioneer decided to draw lots as to who would get him. Fortunately it was one of the not so good squads.
        All good fun.
        Ian Harte,Drogba,Solskjaer,Hasselbaink ,Yehboah were some of the stars I remember owning.

        1. Clouseau
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Everyone has their favourite players but it’s really hard starting a new season with a clean slate and knowing that you may not be able to get the same players who took you to glory in the previous season. You almost feel guilty for not paying enough to buy them and then have to learn to get behind the 18 players you now own.

          1. The 12th Man
            • 10 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            I had my favourites but would always set a limit on how much I’d bid for a player.
            Others didn’t though so when it was your turn to nominate a player you could choose a player you knew others would fight over. One I wasn’t to bothered about.
            Knowing who the different managers supported worked well too.

        2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Ian Harte

          Now there was an FPL defender 🙂

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            *or should I say fantasy football defender lol, I’m not sure FPL even existed when he was in his set piece taking prime at Leeds 🙂

            1. Clouseau
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              He was fantasyleague gold, although Sod’s law that I never owned him until the season Leeds got relegated and he barely scraped into positive figures! The only penalty-taking defenders I remember before him were Franc Leboeuf (Chelsea centreback) and Denis Irwin (Man Utd fullback).

  13. circusmonkey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    The best format of the game. We have monthly transfers, an arbitrary budget, none carried over from unspent funds. You get someone in from the pool, no money back on released players.

    What you learn from FFS in terms of fixture rotation and under the radar players definitely helps. That has helped me win 3 times in 5 years far more than who I got on the night. I suppose it depends on who else in your group looks at that stuff.

    Try to stay close to buying one player per round of player nominations, then you don't overspend early, bargains appear later. Get a rough idea of desired squad structure, stick to it (so not 5 full backs). Set a budget per position, I worked out that only 20% on your defense in fantasyleague.com. There are minus points for defenders conceding more than one, so having coverage for tough fixtures works overall (so you don't have to play someone at Man City). Often the free agent alternatives in midfield and attack are either defensive or don't play, so you can spare the spot.

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      We’re on the same page with your auction tips: all good stuff. Not sure I necessarily agree regarding fixture rotation on defence simply because I rarely get more than the requisite five defenders (one goalkeeper, two fullbacks and two centrebacks) so, assuming I don’t change them during the season, each of them will play every other team twice. It’s one of the important things to understand that, the vast majority of the time, you’re buying players for the full season, not just for a set of fixtures with the intention of swapping them for someone else once those fixtures end.

      1. circusmonkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        In our group, you can usually pick up someone else when fixtures turn bad, so you can look at blocks of fixtures that are two months long, get a lower half defender in, then replace him. It depends on how many free agents you have. We have about 15 managers with 15 players each but the scarcity is in the forward players.

        1. Clouseau
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Wow, I thought the player list was picked bare with eight of us picking 18 players each (144 players in total). You’re going >50% bigger with 225 players acquired at the auction so I’m amazed there’s anyone worth picking up for the remainder of the season except from the team which no one anticipates being tight at the back, thereby presenting you with five viable defenders. Your auctions must require not only comfort breaks but naps too!!

          1. circusmonkey
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            Yes well we have plenty of comfort breaks. Even with 225, some people don't know the players so the best 225 don't go. It does get a bit scraping the barrel right at the end though, worth saving 1.0 or 0.5 for just to get your preference.

            Up to recently, the real transfer window has closed after the season starts, so in the first set (end of August and even end of September), there are new decent players but now that's changed.

            1. Clouseau
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              The timing of the transfer window used to make the auction more interesting because whomever ended it with the most money leftover would be guaranteed their pick of the players to arrive between the auction and the window closing. Sometimes this was a gamble that a decent signing would be made, on other occasions you’d know that a big signing was close to completion but the player wasn’t registered in time for the auction. With the intention now being to have the full list of players available at the auction, any money left over would only come into play in the January window. On that note, the only signings I can recall coming in during January and having a significant impact in the remainder of the season were Papiss Cisse at Newcastle (14 goals in 13 appearances if I remember correctly?) and Phil Coutinho. Even Suarez and Aubameyang didn’t exactly set the world alight until their first full seasons.

              1. circusmonkey
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                4 years, 9 months ago

                Yeah we don't carry any money over. Spend it or lose it. That would change it.

                1. Clouseau
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 8 Years
                  4 years, 9 months ago

                  I guess you get some crazy final prices for players then!

                  1. circusmonkey
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    4 years, 9 months ago

                    Usually from a £50m budget: Up to £15m for top 2 or 3 players, £5-6m tops for a defender. Many on free transfers or bits and pieces. Henry was £27m before my time playing it.

                    If you don't spend your budget as it progresses, you end up overpaying for dross at the end of the auction. I remember Matija Nastasic going for £9m from a £50 budget at the end because they had to spend it. But more often, you get some good cheap ones at the end. Then during the season, some people wait for January signings but end up getting them with 1/3 of the season left. I prefer to spend it early. It has all changed now with the window closing. Now it will be overlooked mediocre players from the first sealed bids window.

                    1. Clouseau
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      4 years, 9 months ago

                      I was going to do a further article on 'sensible prices' as I agree with you (although our top players can go for as high as £16-18m) and it’s often funny watching inexperienced managers spending over the odds for mediocre players and then letting great players go for stupidly low prices. I guess after 20+ seasons of playing, our top league managers tend to know what they’re about so you can roughly estimate each player's price before the auction, at least until too many pints have been consumed!

        2. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          Yep we do this too to a greater or lesser extent. The real old school guys stubbornly pick their best team and stick with it and have started to suffer as a result.

          We have nine managers picking fifteen players so plenty of barrell scraping through the season.

          I don't spend a penny on defence at auction and pick up free transfers based on the best players left and the next fixture only.

          I then [regards defenders and to a lesser extent other positions] play the fixtures all season and sub em in/out as and when.

          I do lose one or two of the better ones when I release but there are always others as generally it is the fixture I'm playing rather the player if that makes sense.

          I've won the last three seasons with what they perceive as a 'new fangled method' and the players that finished closest to me were the ones that started to adapt.

          In our league the minimum spend after auction is 0.25m so so long as I've kept enough aside I can play that way all season, often using well over a hundred players and a net spend of about 20m.

          1. Clouseau
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 years, 9 months ago

            That’s an interesting way to go about it. We only permit 20 transfers for the season with a squad of 18 so your method just wouldn’t be possible; 20 transfers are really only sufficient to cover injuries and duff auction picks/players falling out of form.
            Like you, I’ve never been a fan of spending money on defence because there’s nothing particularly 'sexy' about clean sheets and nothing beats your players banging in goals; watching a game where two of your defenders are playing one another and praying for a snore draw doesn’t really get the juices flowing!

            1. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
              • 5 Years
              4 years, 9 months ago

              Very stressful too ... waiting for those clean sheet points!

              So yeah we can all tweak the rules to suit the majority in this game.

              I came in later than the rest of the guys and simply adapted a strategy I thought best suited for the rules they already had in place.

              Unlimited transfers (until the money runs out at least) and the chairman implements all transfers on Thursday.

              We can all bid on 'free' players each week until the transfer deadline on Wed night 10pm. Highest wins and first in if bids are the same amount.

              Any player I release and lose to a rival I receive their bid so the net spend for this strategy is not that bad

  14. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    Great article. Nice to see some interest shown in this fantastic game.

    I play with a bunch of ultra competitive, 'old school' guys, most of whom view fpl with suspicion!

    The auction is also the highlight of our year and a great night out. Usually a boozy bbq on a sunny evening in someone's garden with gazebo, table and chairs.

    The only downside and I guess a deal breaker for many is the minimum £30 entry for each team ... ouch!

    1. Clouseau
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks mate, appreciate the kind comment. Regarding the deal breaker, when you break it down it’s less than a pound a week (79p to be precise) for nine months' worth of top entertainment, kicked off by the best night of the year, which to my mind represents amazing value for money.
      Sounds like you play with the same bunch that I do......

      1. fclackless [Brazil Nuts]
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 9 months ago

        Yep, I agree it's good value, just I guess it suffers in a direct comparison with fpl.

        The simplicity of the rules and scoring is nice but ultimately it always comes back to the auction night ... bringing friends and rivals together to reset and begin a new season of competition and banter.

        We keep that togetherness going with a Whatsapp group through the season.

        1. Clouseau
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 9 months ago

          The problem is that there is no comparison: whilst it’s based around the same premise, it’s like comparing apples and oranges. Imagine the notion of a wildcard in fantasyleague; it would be like one manager reconvening the auction and saying “sorry chaps, I had a crap night so we’ve got to start all over again”!!
          Agree that the auction trumps everything else but there’s also a joy in seeing your player score and knowing that those points are yours, and yours alone, which fpl rarely, if ever, brings.

  15. Fpl JJ
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 9 months ago

    When does the start allow you to start making private leagues?

  16. Lynford
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 9 months ago

    I have been running my own fantasy league for 25 years now all based around the auction, defo the best way to do fantasy football. We have 4 division now with anything from 12 to 15 managers in them. Sometimes it's the only time of the year when I see some of my ex work mates & we even have two from Oz doing it. Rules have been tweaked a bit like if defenders don't play you get minus 1 so managers can't spend nothing on the defence & pick up reserves that will never play.