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Greenwood only a substitute as Rashford starts up front

Southampton take on Manchester United in the Gameweek 4 curtain-raiser. Kick-off at St. Mary’s is at 12:30pm BST.

An injury to Anthony Martial (£7.7m) against Palace had dominated the build-up to this match, with speculation rife as to whether Ole Gunnar Solsjkaer could hand a start to Mason Greenwood (£4.5m).

That hasn’t transpired, with budget FPL forward Greenwood only among the substitutes.

Solskjaer has made three changes to the Manchester United side that lost 2-1 at home to Crystal Palace in GW3, with Ashley Young (£5.4m), Andreas Pereira (£5.0m) and Juan Mata (£6.4m) starting in the lunch-time kick-off.

Young replaces the injured Luke Shaw (£5.5m) at left-back, whilst Solskjaer has shuffled his pack in the absence of Martial: Mata and Pereira earning starts against the Saints as Jesse Lingard (£6.5m) drops to the bench.

The Norwegian boss has turned to the tried and tested Mata to add attacking impetus to United’s frontline, with the Red Devils aiming to prevent their sluggish Premier League start turning into something of a nightmare after a winless run of two games.

This is a game of extreme importance in the Solsjkaer era at United and the decision to opt for experience in the form of Mata as opposed to a youthful prospect such as Greenwood is telling of how pivotal this fixture could be for United’s momentum in the initial stages of the 2019/20 campaign.

Meanwhile, Southampton boss Ralph Hassenhuttl has made just two changes to his starting line-up for the game against United, with Cedric (£4.9m) and Sofiane Boufal (£5.5m) earning starts at the expense of Yan Valery (£5.0m) and Nathan Redmond (£6.4m). 

The Saints will be looking to build on their impressive away victory over Brighton in Gameweek 3.

Southampton XI: Gunn, Cedric, Vestergaard, Bednarek, Danso, Højbjerg, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Boufal, Adams, Ings.

Manchester United XI: De Gea, Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Young, McTominay, Pogba, Andreas, Mata, James, Rashford.

 

Lessons learned from Gameweek 3

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  1. ASL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Quality balls incoming from James, but as usual United strikers useless at making runs across the front (van nistelrooy esque) post for a tap in.

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      yeah great cross that

  2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    If utd’s attack was just a bit better, and their midfield, and their defence, and their goalkeeper, they’d be right up there challenging for the top 4

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      What

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        I’m sorry, what I meant was - If utd’s attack was just a bit better, and their midfield, and their defence, and their goalkeeper, they’d be right up there challenging for the top 4

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          Ah, gotcha.

    2. Nightcrawler
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      We are favourites for top 4 atm. Better team in all the games this season

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        It’s a good job bookies never make horrific mistakes pricing up markets in any sport, let alone football - phew!

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          He’s on fire.

      2. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        No you're not. Truly deluded.
        Man C , Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal ahead of you in the betting.

        1. Nightcrawler
          • 5 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          Don't care what the odds are. By favourites I mean we have he best chances (not including poor and city)

          Arsenal and spurs just don't have the squad. Liverpool are above us but with a bit of luck even top 2 not impossible. city for the title though

          1. George Sillett
            • 8 Years
            5 years, 22 days ago

            When you said "favourites" is this based on your unbiased opinion ?

            1. Fitzy.
              • 12 Years
              5 years, 22 days ago

              Based on his dribbling

    3. Regin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      cant blame the gk.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        1. June 2018 – Problems begin at the World Cup where De Gea lets a long-range shot from Cristiano Ronaldo squirm through his hands as Spain draw 3-3 with Portugal.

        2. December 2018 – De Gea parries Shkodran Mustafi‘s header into his own net as Manchester United draw 2-2 with Arsenal at Old Trafford.

        3. March 2019 – Granit Xhaka‘s speculative shot flies in from 30 yards in a 2-0 defeat in the return fixture.

        4. April 2019 – De Gea dives over a right-footed shot from Lionel Messi as Barcelona win 3-0 in the Champions League quarter-final second leg.

        5. April 2019 – The goalkeeper’s positioning is called into question again as Gylfi Sigurdsson scores one of four Everton goals at Goodison Park.

        6. April 2019 – De Gea is criticised for allowing Bernardo Silva and Leroy Sane to score at his near post in a 2-0 derby defeat to Man City.

        7. Aug 2019 - DDG again drops a clanger at his near post, beaten by Patrick Van Aanholt, 2 minutes after Utd had equalised, allowing a last stoppage time winner winner for Crystal Palace at Old Trafford

        Also Alonso vs Chelsea last year

        But yeah DDG is clearly the best GK in the world

        1. OPTA FPL
          • 13 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          Most overrated gk ever

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            5 years, 22 days ago

            He was excellent. Quite the decline though.

        2. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          For me he was the worst GK of that World Cup.

      2. BrutalLogiC
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        not today

    4. IRBOX ⚽
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      I don’t get the hate and comments like these.. they will be top 4. Their xG and xGc rivals the best so far this season, results just not going their way

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        So you could almost say XGc & XG are not accurate predictors of either FPL points, or premier league points in this case?

        1. IRBOX ⚽
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          Incorrect, this type of data is essential to FPL.. it just takes time for things to revert to the mean.. 2 shots on target for the Saints - United were unlucky not to have a shut out there

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 22 days ago

            Yep, give it thousands of games and things should normalise - it’s a good job we don’t have to plan over short 4-5 game windows in FPL!

            1. IRBOX ⚽
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 22 days ago

              Stats are predictors for future outcomes and acts as essential information for those windows you are referring to.

              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 22 days ago

                “Essential” is quite a subjective term, more of an opinion - some would share and some would not

                What is not up for debate is that XGc & XG have not been accurate predictors of either FPL points, or premier league points in this case, this case being Man Utd and their start to the season

          2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            5 years, 22 days ago

            And my comment was blatantly NOT incorrect

            XGc and XG have not been accurate predictors of either FPL points or premier league point sin this case

            This case being Man Utd and their start to the season

            1. IRBOX ⚽
              • 7 Years
              5 years, 22 days ago

              You’re referring to a singular outcome based on one set of data? If we extrapolate the data over the entire cohort of FPL, then yes your statement is indeed incorrect

              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 14 Years
                5 years, 22 days ago

                So it’s a good job my statement was referring to a
                the specific case of Man Utd, right?

                Are you familiar with the English language by any chance? 😉

                1. IRBOX ⚽
                  • 7 Years
                  5 years, 22 days ago

                  It clearly wasn’t, it was a blanket statement referring to stats predicting outcomes to FPL. I’m sure you can tell from my terminology I am familiar with semantics so that’s just ridiculous

                  1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                    • 14 Years
                    5 years, 22 days ago

                    Let’s recap shall we? 🙂

                    “So you could almost say XGc & XG are not accurate predictors of either FPL points, or premier league points in this case?”

                    I will direct your attention to the presence of “in this case” at the closure of the sentence.

                    And do you notice that the comment is in a thread about the football team Manchester United?

                    And in direct response to a comment about their start to the season having hugely positive XGc and XG data?

                    If you hadn’t noticed the above, then we have solved the problem 🙂

                    If you HAD noticed the above... then you may need to start paying some attention to your English teacher 😉

                    1. IRBOX ⚽
                      • 7 Years
                      5 years, 22 days ago

                      I’ll give you some credit, I did forego the phrase ‘in this case’, however, you did also incorrectly spell my name. Now I won’t call that dyslexia because as a health professional i can tell you that letter reversals are an incorrect and mythical definition for the disorder. Try not to get hung up on the English literature and we won’t have any problems

                      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 14 Years
                        5 years, 22 days ago

                        Ok so at least we’ve settled the first problem and acknowledged the fact that XGc and XG are not accurate predictors of either FPL points or Premier league points in this case 🙂

                        Now, on to the second problem which you have so kindly raised 🙂

                        It is indeed prudent not to attribute the reference to “ibrox” to the learning difficulty dyslexia...

                        Not only could the “misspelling” have been caused by extenuating circumstances/technical error (e.g. predictive text etc) rather than a learning difficulty, but equally, it could also have been a tactical misspelling, or even the dreaded double reverse misspelling, where a user misspells a word or phrase (or even a stadium!) incorrectly in their username!

                        Based on the English comprehension ability demonstrated in this thread so far I’m not ruling anything out though 😉

          3. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            5 years, 22 days ago

            This data ain't anywhere near essential.

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              5 years, 22 days ago

              Id have to agree - but in fairness it’s an opinion, one we both share, and one that many would possibly not share

              Now if we can just educate young master Ibrox on the difference between an opinion & a fact we will be doing well 😉

              1. Get up ya bum
                • 15 Years
                5 years, 22 days ago

                I fear that task might be beyond even us mate

                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 14 Years
                  5 years, 22 days ago

                  Yet another opinion we share 🙂

  3. Bruce Lee
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    u n i t e d, united are the team for me

  4. Rainer
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    That’s the Ballon D’or gone from James.

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Lol

  5. Rolls-Royce
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Lol james

  6. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Hang on lads!

    1. TomSaints
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Great point!

  7. COLLIN QUANER
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Praying for Saints winner

  8. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Cedric with an international injury

    1. how now brown cow
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      At least not 59 mins.

  9. Bobby Digital
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Go Tammy!!!

  10. Zladan
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    James is absolutely rapid.

  11. how now brown cow
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Young yc. If anyone cares.

    1. Limbo
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Dammit. TC punt backfired.

  12. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Not sure Utd will get top 6 this season, they look so average

    1. DeathoftheParty
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Top 6 super optimistic... Top 10 looks unlikely.

  13. Zenith UK
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Not watching the game, was the pen shout a pen?

    1. The Road to Turfdom
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      no, would have been very harsh

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      No

  14. Differentiator
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Are United really that bad defensively? Soton haven't exactly had many chances

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      this

    2. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Overall, they're not bad. Just that one or two chances that they do give up, has gone in. Quite frustrating really.

      vs. Wolves. Unlucky. Banger
      vs. Saints. Lindelof loses challenge. No save DDG.

    3. Nightcrawler
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      We're as good as pool back line this year. Players just need time to get used to playing together.

      Maguire to have the same impact as vvd

    4. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      They have a giant on headers though.

  15. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Premier league app crashing for anyone else?

    1. Ode
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Yep

  16. Ode
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    I’ll take 2 points from Awb. As many as any liverpool def will get this week

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Same as I got from Walker and Otamendi combined last week.

    2. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      That sounds hopeful.

  17. Lingard’s Shin Guards
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    How did Chelsea lose 4-0 to this team?

    1. EMBOLOFAN
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      by playing increasingly high line away from home vs martial/rash who are both rapid

    2. Limbo
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Lamps early on was going to be messy

    3. CostaCoffee
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      I’ll never understand

    4. BobbyDoesNotLook
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Kante was not starting and bit of a bad lucky in their attacks. Quite same could be said about Utd results after Chelsea game - result not giving fair picture of the game.

  18. Differentiator
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Some 11 year old looking Soton kid in the crowd shouting f off

    deary me

    1. Guy Demel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      good lad

    2. Brosstan
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      *clutches pearls*

  19. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Young wasting time

  20. Monkey Hanger
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Any BAP's for Greenwood?

    1. Pukki Blinders
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      All 3

  21. CostaCoffee
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Is reddit down for everyone?

    1. Bruce Lee
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      me yh

    2. EMBOLOFAN
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      hopefully

  22. JIMMY TUGGINS
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Lampard saying Christensen has been 'really good' with a straight face.

  23. columbo
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    I remember when a few people suggested getting rid of Greenwood so as not to waste a third United spot. How quickly things change!

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Haha, I got Wickham on my WC for this very reason.

      1. columbo
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        Oh no! Sorry but that did make me chuckle!

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          I suppose at least I don't have to pretend he will be anything more than a 3rd sub with zero returns!

  24. Debauchy
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Those saying Southampton to be relegated , what you say now ?

    1. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Anyone who finished in the bottom half last season plus the three promoted clubs are in the relegation mix until they prove otherwise.

      1. Debauchy
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 22 days ago

        In the mix sure, but in the mix was not mentioned was it

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 22 days ago

          Yeah, I know everything gets polarised here. Newcastle were the whipping boys and relegation certs before the Spurs game.

  25. Zenith UK
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    I'm not watching the game, a few people revoking their comments about James being bad. Has he been playing well today?

    1. Eddie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Very well.

    2. Treadstone
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      He played well...great goal and was easily Utd's best attacker.

  26. Vlad Tepes
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Tempted to activate WC, but dont like to do it during international break. When will u guys use it?

    1. Liber
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Later than IB.

  27. Bragazeti
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Blow the whistle Mike Dean

  28. how now brown cow
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    All over

  29. Kristobal
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Nooooo.. Anyone know why Deulofeu is on the bench?

    1. hornetjb
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      He hasn’t been playing that well. Missed a couple of chances last week. Plus we lost three games in a row, so the manager had to make changes. Should come on In the second half unless we’re winning comfortably ( which is unlikely).

  30. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 22 days ago

    Saints 10 shots, 2 on target.

    1. DeathoftheParty
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 22 days ago

      Che Adams looking good value then...