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1 February 2011 618 comments
Mark Mark
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Chelsea’s capture of Fernando Torres for a reported £50 million has sent a tremor throughout the Premier League and instantly reinstated Carlo Ancelotti’s side as title contenders. They have ground to make up, but in Torres Chelsea have a genuine world class striker who has little to prove on the Premier League stage. A thoroughbred goalscorer, Torres can unquestionably make the difference and revive Chelsea’s fortunes following an alarming mid-season slump.

Fantasy Managers are left feeling a lot less secure about it all. Torres has remained on the periphery of our thinking for the majority of the season and has only recently blinked on the radar as a result of Liverpool’s double Gameweeks. Now we’re forced to reassess the potential of Torres, whilst examining how his arrival at Chelsea could impact on his new team-mates.

The Statistics

The big question will be whether Torres in blue is a stronger proposition than Torres in red. Given his record at Anfield (65 goals in 102 appearances), the Spaniard has a lot to live up to in a Chelsea shirt.

When fit and firing, Torres is a monster – a goalscorer that few can rival. In 29 league starts in his first season, Torres struck a staggering 24 goals. He followed that up with 14 goals in a season blighted by injury that limited him to just 20 starts in the league. It was a similar tale in 2009/10 when Torres again started on 20 occasions, scoring 18 league goals in the process. This season Torres’ statistics have epitomised Liverpool’s season – a return of 9 goals in 22 starts is disappointing. Liverpool have struggled to find fluidity and provide a regular supply to Torres who has himself, had his fitness called into question.

Opinion…

Andy

“My favourite Premier League striker + reigning Champions = A dream come true. At least in theory, so why am I not -in purely fantasy footballing terms- drooling all over this?

Maybe it’s because Chelsea already have another circa £12m FPL striker. When Ancelotti’s side have good fixtures and after seeing how he settles in, I would, of course, buy Torres over Drogba but I’m certainly not in any hurry. In fact, for now, I’m pretty sure I’ll be shifting him out of my squad.”

The Prospects

There are certainly plenty of doubts concerning how Carlo Ancelotti will slot Torres into the Chelsea lineup – the current 4-3-3 system will presumably be scrapped in favour of a more conventional 4-4-2, unless of course Ancelotti is planning for heavy rotation of his strikers. Didier Drogba’s form following his contraction of malaria has been under scrutiny, with the Ivorian freely admitting that he has struggled to shake off the after effects of the illness. A return of 9 goals (his goal at Blackpool has since been allocated as an OG) and 9 assists in 20 appearances is vastly disappointing by Drogba’s standards and, despite the wonder goal at the Reebok last time out, Ancelotti may still have concerns over his striker’s sharpness and powers of recovery. It’s a distinct possibility that Torres may well rotate with Drogba over the coming weeks then.

A dream ticket partnership of Drogba and Torres would of course be the ideal scenario for Fantasy Managers and, should that materialise, we would expect Torres to flourish and have a chance of maintaining his strong Premier League scoring record. Liverpool’s faltering season and long-term lack of width may even see an upturn in fortunes for Torres, if Ancelotti hands him regular starts and Chelsea begin to provide him with a good level of service.

That is far from assured. Chelsea have also suffered a decline and have only just begun to display shoots of recovery after a stunning opening period to the season. The arrival of Torres and the switch to a 4-4-2 would see a significant change in system and possibly Chelsea’s style of play; that could lead to a period of adjustment both for Torres and his new team-mates.

A diamond formation, with Mikel or Ramires holding and Michael Essien and Florent Malouda either side and Frank Lampard at the point would certainly appear to be the most likely midfield setup in a 4-4-2; that would allow both Ashley Cole and Jose Bosingwa to continue their frequent forays forward. Drogba and Torres would likely lead the attack in the main, with Anelka available to rotate for either of that pairing. That looks solid and potent in equal measure, but it’s a clear departure from the current 4-3-3 in which Anelka and Malouda/Kalou are used to flank Drogba as the focal point of the attack. Now, we must presume that Torres will be that key figure. The effect on Lampard and the regularity of his bursts into the penalty area, will require monitoring.

There are lots of variables to consider; unknown factors that will leave Fantasy Managers uneasy about the prospect of investing in the Torres, particularly at an FPL price of 11.9. Certainly we will need time to assess the impact of this staggering transfer deadline day; to monitor how Torres fits in and how Ancelotti is likely to deploy him within his current setup.

Right now we have little or nothing to go on. Torres will not play a part in Chelsea’s trip to Sunderland this evening, so Torres should make his debut against Liverpool at the weekend. The script is laid out then – Sunday’s encounter will be a fascinating prospect for Torres’ Fantasy owners and his doubters alike, and an uncomfortable one for Liverpool fans.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Prhymeate
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    any thoughts on my team for this week

    Stockdale (Foster on bench if schwarzer plays)
    djourou/vidiv/coleman
    vdv/fabregas/adam/nani
    van persie/tevez/berbatov

    dempsey on bench, but chose vdv over him.

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    1. DementedFlamingo
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Who's your other defenders? I assuming your playing Coleman for his attacking points?

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  2. Tangerine Army XI
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Suarez at 9.0m, yay or nay?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      No!
      Carroll at 6? yay!!

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  3. Demí
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Today
    Michael Bradley has joined Aston Villa (£4.5m)
    Today
    Obafemi Martins has joined Birmingham (£5.5m)
    Today
    Mauro Formica has joined Blackburn (£5.5m)
    Today
    Jason Puncheon has joined Blackpool (£5.0m)
    Today
    Sergei Kornilenko has joined Blackpool (£5.0m)
    Today
    David Luiz has joined Chelsea (£6.0m)
    Today
    Luis Suarez has joined Liverpool (£9.0m)
    Today
    Sulley Muntari has joined Sunderland (£5.5m)
    Today
    Stephane Sessegnon has joined Sunderland (£6.0m)
    Today
    Gary O'Neil has joined West Ham (£4.5m)
    Today
    Dembe Ba has joined West Ham (£5.0m)

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    1. BoobyZ
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      James Beattie Joined Blackpool (£5.0m)
      Eidur Gudjohnsen Joined Fulham (£4.8m)
      Daniel Sturridge Joined Bolton (£5.2m)
      Fernando Torres Joined Chelsea (£11.9m)
      Andrew Carroll Joined Liverpool (£6.1m)
      Stephen Ireland Joined Newcastle (£5.8m)

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      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Well hello Michael Bradley.

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      2. Po!
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        such...SUCHH...i say is the fall of Robbie Keane's stockk..!!!!!!!

        To West Ham for just 4.8m

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  4. NotoriousDRE
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Really have to decide what to do about 'nando

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    1. Oliver Reed
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      keep him all day long, i would if i had him...

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  5. DonDamiano
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    suarez not on fpl site for selection any idea how much or when he will be available ??? gota a feeling he is going to be starting tonight want to get him in asap

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    1. Tangerine Army XI
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      He's on there at 9m

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    2. dizzle
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      he's 9 mill and his on there

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    3. DonDamiano
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      forget last comment i have him now..

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  6. DementedFlamingo
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Was there any updates on Carrolls injury from his transfer???

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    1. DementedFlamingo
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Any... I'm off to bed just wondering if I should bring Berb in. Would do if Carroll is out for another 4 weeks

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  7. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    So are people holding onto Fernando or dumping him?

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    1. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      got rid

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  8. dizzle
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    need to make two trades this week with nasri and alcaraz not playing these two weeks.

    I currently have 2.3 in the bank, what do you guys recommend

    Option 1: Nasri out walcott in
    Alcaraz out 7.9 defender in?

    Thoughts would be greatly appreciated, i've let my team to go as of late so currently I feel unsure of what to do.

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    1. pstokes2010
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      i dont see arsenal scoring many tonight

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      1. Fratboy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        +1 me neither, Everton are strong

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  9. MJ6987
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone see any obvious issues with my WC team before I finalise it before tonight...

    Gordon (Begovic)
    Rafael - Kelly - Djorou (Kolarov, Coleman)
    Nani - VDV - Walcott - Adam (Etherington)
    Tevez - Berbatov - Van Persie (c)

    £4.5m in bank

    Thanks!

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    1. BoobyZ
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Gordon :o. Not good fixtures

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks. Maybe Foster instead until the fixtures improve?

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      2. Murmuring
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Cesc on fire is right. You will need to be playing Begovic mainly. Are you prepared to do that? I would pair Gordon with Foster myself.

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      3. Sassenachs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Agreed, Foster would rotate much better for you.

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  10. The Duck of Doom
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Hey guys, my team is linked. I have 1 free transfer this week, going to do Torres > RVP (c)

    Having some selection issues with my defence, will definitely be starting Skrtel at home to Stoke but also need to play another 2 of my following 4 defenders:

    - Hughes (Injury doubt)
    - Kolarov (Will he start?)
    - Evatt (Blackpool defence is pretty junk but favourable fixture home to West Hame, also I am starting Adam and DJ so maybe Blackpool overload!)
    - Bardsley (Tough game against Chelsea team that look to be firing again)

    Should I play 2 of the above or take a 4 point hit and bring in another defender with the next 2GWs in mind before I WC in 27? If so, who?

    Thanks in advance!

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  11. M@sTeR
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    help need!
    team is
    stockdale, (foster)
    hangeland, skrtel, evra, (djourou, simpson)
    Demspsey, VDV, nani, adam, (Nzogbia)
    Rooney, VanPersie, Tevex
    should i take 8 points hit for
    Rooney -> Berbatov
    Demspey -> Fabregas
    evra -> kelly
    Any comment is appreciated

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  12. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Will James Beattie affect DJ's start tomorrow..?

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      He really shouldnt. Beattie is unfit and has no pace. I'm so glad we got rid of him, dont fancy diouf as much of a replacement mind you.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        And Kourilenko looks ok. Too many strikers there now imo.

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  13. Dirty_Harry
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Luiz in at 6.0 loioks very nice
    I'll bve keeping my eye on that one, thought it'll be a bit higher than that. Hopefully he's stright into the first team, at £21m I expected he will be.

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    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      +1

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      1. dierstraights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        +2

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        1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          +3, 4 and 5

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    2. PM
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I agree 6.0 seems like value. Considering the transfer fee paid, unless Luiz has trouble getting settled he should be preferred to Alex or Ivanovic, with the Ivan. out to right back.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Will WC in for sure. Didnt realise he was Brazilian, could form a great partnership with Alex! Bye bye JT!!

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  14. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    9 goals and 9 assists in 20 league games isn't that bad!

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    1. Marlon King
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah I did wonder how being involved in nearly a goal a game was a poor run of form!

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      1. Funkyav
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        I think its more that his recent form has been poor, he was on fire at the beginning of the season so these stats appear better than his current form.

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        1. Jack Tatum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          It's also in relation to last season when he scored 30-odd goals, so it's a fair drop-off so far

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      2. Dago
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        He got sucked in with the rest of the Liverpool teams poor form, and they needed him alone to win games. They were conceding goals so he was going to have to score more than one goal to appear on top of his game. I think he will explode with the Chelsea team around him.

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        1. Funkyav
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          we were talkin about Drogba

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  15. PM
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    QUICK POLL:

    (1) just play DJ Campbell, Simpson (no point hit)

    (2) Alcaraz---->Kolarov (bench Simpson), 4 point hit

    (3) Nasri---->Meireles/Ashley Young/Dempsey (bench DJ Campbell), 4 point hit

    (4) Nasri, DJ Campbell--->Berbatov, 5.1 MF (Barton), 8 point hit

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    1. A-Team
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      1)

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  16. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Oh man, Carrol on my bench in a Liverpool shirt.

    Dayum, that just looks so darned good!

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    1. BoobyZ
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      And Konchesky with a red flag 😀

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Funnily enough, not in a Forest shirt for some reason!!

        I will probably be selling him in a few hours time.

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    2. PM
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      It does. His ownership in the game will be stratospheric once fit.

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  17. Murmuring
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    I have a dilemma. Should I WC tonight for GW26 or wait until the weekend. What do others think? The thing that is stopping me tonight is United's tasty fixture at Wolves as I'm definitely getting rid of Berbatov in my WC.

    Is my squad (linked) good enough for GW26 (I've signed Kelly and V Persie instead of Konch and Carroll for a 4 point hit for GW25).

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I'd use it once the deadline has passed tonight.

      Maybe get some price rises now window is shut and have 2 freebies for GW28.

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      1. Murmuring
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        That was my original plan. Now I'm not so sure

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        1. Murmuring
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          I'd quite like to see what happens with Luiz and Torres buet perhaps they can wait until GW29 anyway

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          1. rick_7
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            I'm in exactly the same boat. I'm tempted to leave it and keep Berbs for the Wolves game - but I'm going to check on the prices tonight and see if I'm going to miss out on the double-GW squad I want.

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          2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 11 months ago

            I'd wait. Give it another week to see how teams are shapign up after all the transfers.

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            1. Murmuring
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 11 months ago

              This is the toughest decision of the season so far. I was already to WC tonight but now I'm not so sure. Very very difficult. I think my squad is good enough for the weekend and there aren't too many I want who will rise (midweek performances pending of course)

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              1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                • 16 Years
                14 years, 11 months ago

                imo wait till after the deadline tonight. Then do you line-up for the weekend, see if you need to wc or not?
                I planned to do it tonight, but, now not so sure, as only a few days to make some .1's and still uncertainty about gw 28, and how new transfers will line-up etc??

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  18. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Luiz is £6m. Hmmm. Worth it on my WC in GW27, lads?

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    1. Dirty_Harry
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Wait and see, if he starts tonight and against liverpool, then I say yes. Just need to see how he fits in and who gets ousted. Suspect the line up will be Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry, ACole.

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      1. teddypicker
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        Luiz is ineligible for tonight

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9379797.stm

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        1. Funkyav
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          Agree with your lineup above although for "easier" games Bosingwa may feature in place of Ivanovic

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  19. A-Team
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    (1)

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    1. A-Team
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Whoops, wrong place.

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  20. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Will scout picks me out soon?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      *be

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  21. Something Clever
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    So... Torres is clearly one of the best strikers in the world (even scoring 9 this year for a dire Liverpool) and has now joined a team who can actually play football, attack and are genuine title contenders and... people want to drop him? I don't get it.

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    1. DementedFlamingo
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I might bring him in, in a couple weeks.

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    2. Eatspressure
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      been thinking same myself, he is def out tomorrow though and Chelsea have tough fixtures thats the arguement

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    3. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Because you only get 3 slots and players react differently at new clubs. No promises he'll start firing straight away, or indeed play every game, what with Drogba there too.

      Too many ? marks to have him.

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  22. Soccer Brah
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Tevez or Berbatov? Have Tevez and could swap without a point hit but kinda feel ive missed the boat on Berba and Tevez is due a big one. Would love to have both but can only afford RvP, Tevez/Berb + midprice striker.

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    1. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Berba for this week without a doubt. Tevez for after.

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    2. Eatspressure
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Personally I would keep Berb he is on fire and I expect him to put Chelsea to the Sword, just my opinion

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  23. Eatspressure
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Lads whata crazy 24 hours appreciate opinions..

    present team *(plan to WC 26)

    Stockdale
    Vidic Coleman Kolarov
    VDV Nani Dempsey Adam
    Tevez Berbatov Campbell
    subs (all red) Alcaraz Nasri Konch

    can i get away with just one free and who would you get rid ? keeping in mind wc next week so is only for one game?
    Fulham , UTD , Blacpool all home so not that bad potentially worried about no Arsenal coverage though....APPRECIATE ADVICE CHEERS

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  24. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Definitely looking towards Berb - Tevez - Torres now. May even end up dropping Nani...

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  25. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Current Team:

    Hart (Robo)
    Coleman Evra Bardsley Samba (Alcaraz)
    Nani VDV Adam N’Zog (Albrighton)
    Rooney Varney (Torres)

    1 transfer available

    WC Team:

    Foster Hart
    RJohnson Coleman Rafael Djourou Bardsley
    Nani VDV Walcott Adam Young
    Odemwingie Berbatov Tevez

    Question 1: Do I play it now, before 26 or before 27?
    Question 2: Secondary keeper? (have Hart at 6.6, but would rather budget option and keep money for Cahill in 28)
    Question 3: Any suggestions?

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    1. dierstraights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      rvp and fabs?

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      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        for?

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        1. dierstraights
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          i don't know but you need at least one, if not both in my opinion

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    2. Murmuring
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      I wouldn't WC now in any case. You could use your transfer for a striker for tonight in place of Torres seeing as you're getting rid anyway.

      Before 26 gives you two freebies for GW28. Before 27 gives you the chance to sort it out better for the DGW (FA Cup matches next week) and to see how the Jan transfers work out.

      I'm having the same dilemma myself. As for your keepers:
      2. Choose Foster or Hart. I'd have Foster personally and play him almost all of the time.

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  26. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Please can we have a scout report on Blackburn's new playmaker entitled "Formica on the table"?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Looks like a good prospect actually, but with mgp and Dunn, there will be a lot of sharing of duties

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  27. pedrods
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    was going to save my wildcard but have 4 players out so might play it today. how does this team sound (have 4.1 in bank to either upgrade brunt to cahill or bent to torres)

    foster (robinson)
    kelly djourou coleman simpson carr
    nani van der vaart fabregas adam brunt
    tevez bent carroll

    im happy to carry carroll for a few weeks cos ive had him all seaosn and dont want to lose value

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  28. pol
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    Foster Al-Habsi

    Coleman Vidic Hangeland Huth Kelly

    Nani Van der Vaart Dempsey Nasri Adam

    Torres Berbatov Odemwingie

    any advice for transfers before the GW 27?

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    1. Murmuring
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 11 months ago

      Buy Arsenal players who aren't Nasri.

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      1. pol
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 11 months ago

        sell torres or berbatov for RVP?

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        1. pol
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 11 months ago

          so its walcott torres or berbatov fabs??

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  29. Gunner win the premiership …
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 11 months ago

    what to do, any suggestions

    foster (harper)
    elmo,nelsen,kelly (alcarazz, shawx)
    nani,vdv,nasri,adam,
    torres,berbatov,van persie.

    what shud be my priority.

    my plan to use free transfer, nasri to walcott and bench torres as he wont be playin for chelsea today

    wildcard stil remains. plan to use gwk27

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