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The Sun Dream Team – Selection Guide – Defenders

In our second selection guide for The Sun Dream Team, we turn our attention to the defence, casting an eye on the strategies involved in selecting a back four and the prime candidates on offer.

While the big points scorers can be found further up the field, with a quartet of defenders a pre-requisite for our lineups in The Sun Dream Team, we can ill-afford to neglect this area. As with our goalkeeper selection, we’re looking for regular starters first and foremost, although, as we’ll see, attacking instincts and the potential for goals is also key.

Before we begin looking at specific player options, let’s analyse the factors that govern our selection – including last season’s performance, the influence of cup fixtures and possible transfer window strategies.

The Strategies

Top Ten Sun Dream Team Defenders by Overall Points 2012/13

NameTeamStarts7+ RatingsStar ManGoalsCSGCPoints
BainesEverton4432571248196
IvanovicChelsea5421381860177
VertonghenTottenham Hotspur4828371359164
LuizChelsea5018171955153
AggerLiverpool3820131741138
ShawcrossStoke City4022511344135
JohnsonLiverpool4120211846135
WilliamsSwansea City4125301347129
JagielkaEverton4118431144129
MertesackerArsenal4314131743124

Looking back at the previous campaign’s data, it’s clear that some familiar names from other Fantasy games also dominate in The Sun Dream Team. Leighton Baines’ status as the top defensive asset is compounded by his standing, here: he finished the season some 22 points ahead of his nearest rival in The Sun Dream Team, despite claiming just 12 clean sheets. Everton’s progress to the FA Cup semi-finals boosted another eye-catching Premier League season for Baines, who achieved a points per game stat of 4.5 – by far the most impressive amongst the top ranked defenders.

The Chelsea pairing of Branislav Ivanovic and David Luiz benefited from a successful Europa League campaign but turned in points per game numbers of 3.2 and 2.9 respectively – emphasising Baines’ efficiency. Tottenham’s Jan Vertonghen was also aided by Europa League appearances and, overall, it’s significant that these top four defenders all claimed seven or more goals over the season – underlining the importance of targeting those capable of contributing at the sharp end.

While goals are clearly an important factor, we should also consider the role played by points gained for Star Man and 7+ ratings.

Baines, Stoke’s Ryan Shawcross and West Ham’s James Collins all topped the Star Man charts for defenders with modest totals of five awards. In 2011/12, Baines, along with Shawcross, were two of eight defenders tied on just three at the top. Compare this to Juan Mata’s 15, and the 13 accrued by both Gareth Bale and Luis Suarez last season, and it’s clear that, like goalkeepers, defenders struggle to overshadow their attacking team-mates when it comes to picking up man-of-the-match status.

Points from 7+ Sun Ratings are easier to obtain, however. There were ten defenders who earned 7+ ratings on 20 or more occasions last season, with Baines registering a hugely impressive tally of 32 from his 44 starts, gathering 96 points in this area. Vertonghen also gained heavily here – he collected 7+ ratings on 28 occasions from 48 starts, while Swansea’s Ashley Williams earned the same accolade in 25 of his 41 Dream Team starts.

As a rule, aside from the obvious benefit of scoring in a match, dominant central defenders and full-backs with strong attacking impetus are the most likely to earn a 7+ rating. Baines has featured in the top five rankings for 7+ ratings over the last four seasons – emphasising the importance of a consistent attacking presence. Similarly, both Shawcross and Williams have made the top ten for 7+ ratings in the past two seasons (with Star Man awards also a factor) – it’s obvious that the duo have something to offer in this area.

Cup Campaigns

There’s no question that a Cup run and, in particular, a European campaign can be big factors behind the number of appearances, and therefore the points tallies, of your defenders. In some cases, defensive stalwarts can be less prone to rotation than their attacking counterparts.

Vertonghen was a key benefactor of Tottenham’s Europa League campaign last term, earning 41 of his 164 points in Europe. Similarly, both Ivanovic and Luiz collected 17 and 25 additional points from Champions League and Europa League matches, with Liverpool’s Glen Johnson fetching 18 additional points.

We’re not talking big margins here, but clearly, targeting players with the potential of regular starts in European matches is another factor to consider.

Domestic cup runs can also be considered, but these are far trickier to anticipate, with rotation in the FA and Capital One Cups likely to be rife amongst those sides also competing in Europe. Typically, we’ll see all the Champions League contenders rotate across the board in the domestic cup competitions, leading us to look to those teams outside of these four, perhaps honing in on those sides who will field strong lineups in both domestic trophies – the likes of Everton, West Ham and Norwich, perhaps.

Window Watching

Planning transfer strategies according to The Sun Dream Team Transfer Window is crucial, not least in defence where you can tailor your tactics to give yourself the best opportunity of earning clean sheet rewards.

Transfer Window 1 opens with just three Premier League fixtures played out, on September 3. You’ll have three transfers to use before the Gameweek 4 on September 14 and, with a “use them or lose” policy, it’s wise to examine the options of signing defenders with this in mind.

It’s worth considering a policy of adopting one or even two slots in your back four that can be used to rotate a defender in and out in each Transfer Window according to fixtures and cup progress. Of course, such best laid plans can be ripped up by untimely injuries, however.

The Season Ticker is your key weapon here. We can easily identify those with the easier fixtures over the first three Gameweeks and, if you’re a member, you can use the “clean sheets” filter on the interactive ticker to find those defences most likely to earn shut-outs in this spell.

Our members can also tailor their ticker to examine the next Transfer Window that opens on November 12. By restricting the full Members Ticker to Gameweeks 3-11 you can analyse the difficulty of fixtures between Transfer Window 1 and Transfer Window 2, revealing some valid strategies and targets.

As an example, Southampton face home matches with West Ham, Crystal Palace, Swansea, Fulham and Hull all before Transfer Window 2, therefore, switching in a defender from St Mary’s in Transfer Window 1 for this spell looks an option.

With the Capital One Cup reaching the fourth round by October 28, you will be able to adjust your defence according to those teams who have made progress by the time Transfer Window 2 comes into effect.

It’s not so easy in Europe, with the Europa League and Champions League both on matchday four of the group stages by the time Transfer Window 2 opens.

The FA Cup Third Round does not take place until January 4, so progress here only becomes a factor for the Transfer Window 3 that opens on January 21.

The Players

Baines and Vertonghen are obvious draws once again this season with both set to offer a significant attacking threat and assured league starts. There are caveats that might curb investment prior to Transfer Window 1, however, with Baines’ future at Goodison still not uncertain and Vertonghen looking a doubt for the opening fixtures with a pre-season ankle injury. Once settled, however, both look hugely tempting as heavy-hitter investments with Vertonghen’s price tag of £5.5m, coupled with Tottenham’s kind schedule of fixtures up until Transfer Window 2, perhaps giving him the edge once fit.

Coverage of both Man City and United will be high on the agenda given their potential to harvest clean sheets, although the fixture list suggests that initial investment should go the way of Manuel Pellegrini’s side. City have Newcastle, Cardiff and Hull before the first transfer window, while United’s defence face both Liverpool and Chelsea in the same spell.

Vincent Kompany seems likely to be the most secure option in the City rearguard with both full-backs and the Belgian’s central defensive partner set to shuffle on the domestic front and in Europe. If you’re not spending on Joe Hart in goal, the City captain looks a shoo-in, at least until Transfer Window 1 swings open and the United defence comes into play.

That will also give us time to assess how David Moyes will approach his back four. With the likes of Nemanja Vidic, Rio Ferdinand, Jonny Evans and Phil Jones all available for the centre-half roles, the full-backs – Patrice Evra and Rafael, could be the safer routes to take. Jones, if he can cement a start, either in defence or midfield, looks the one to watch given his modest £4m price tag.

Chelsea’s defensive assets are difficult to sift through. Jose Mourinho will surely rotate at the back and, aside from Ashley Cole (£6.0), few look assured of regular starts in the league, let alone the cup competitions. Luiz, with a significant goal threat, looks to be the crown jewel but at £6.5m, his potential comes at a price. With a difficult start to the campaign (United, Everton, Tottenham and City all before Transfer Window 2), it may be wise to look elsewhere in order to assess Mourinho’s selection pattern.

Lower down the brackets, Ashley Williams, with a valuation of just £3.5m, has attracted more interest than any other defender – he’s been selected by over 31% of managers in The Sun Dream Team so far. Swansea’s Europa League campaign is presumably a factor, here, with Chico (£2.5) finding his way into over 21% of sides. Both could be set to plummet should Swansea falter in qualifying, although arguably, the duo have merits regardless of potential European returns.

Liverpool’s Kolo Toure looks a stronger option in the same bracket. Having figured prominently in pre-season and with Martin Skrtel’s future at Anfield far from certain, Toure looks exceptional value at just £3m. As we mentioned in our previous guide to The Sun Dream Team goalkeepers, there is real merit in acquiring both Toure and Simon Mignolet given their price and Liverpool’s strong early schedule.

Baines’ team-mate Seamus Coleman (£3m) offers an interesting alternative. Classed as a midfielder last season, Coleman is expected to claim the start on the right side of Roberto Martinez’s defence, either as a full-back or wing-back. That should see him contribute regularly to attack and draw plenty of 7+ ratings should Martinez start his Goodison career strongly.

In the budget bracket, West Ham’s defence offers new signing Razvan Rat for just £1m – a hugely attractive option going into Transfer Window 1 with the Hammers facing Cardiff and Stoke at Upton Park, with a trip to Newcastle sandwiched in between. Rat could be a keeper over the season given that price tag, although a transfer out to cash in on Southampton’s aforementioned run up to Transfer Window 2 looks a good tactic.

Full-backs Luke Shaw and Nathaniel Clyne can each be acquired for £2.5m and if Jose Fonte or Jos Hooiveld can secure at start, they can be snapped up for just £1m. Beyond those two clubs, Norwich City’s Michael Turner, at just £1.5m, looks another bargain. If he can gain continue to command starts alongside Sebastian Bassong, he should offer value, particularly if Chris Hughton’s side can translate their summer spending into a domestic Cup run.

The Sun Dream Team Scout League

The Sun Dream Team is long established as one of the biggest players in the UK Fantasy Football market, attracting a huge audience wowed by the most substantial prizes on offer. Once again, this season, there’s a huge £500,000 prize pool to be divided up. Registration for teams and leagues opens on August 1 but you can select your lineups right now.

We also have our own Fantasy Football Scout League with a £1000 top prize on offer to the winner.

Once you register and create your team or teams, simply use the following PIN and password to enter.

League Name: Fantasy Football Scout
Password: ReWOZhn1T1
PIN: 8061654

You’ll find these details on the middle column of the homepage from this point on.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

2,838 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Grounderz
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    Mark or any mods about? Not sure if the RMT is functioning properly or I'm just another fool - enter FPL ID, nothing pops out or lists. Note, paid for the membership yesterday.

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    1. QPR expects... glory!
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      Just another fool 🙂

      Don;t worry though, I think most of us had the same problem!

      The ID only works once the game has started as until then your team isn't set. Until then you need to set up your team using the 'build my team' option

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      1. Grounderz
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        Ah, the manual option. Bit tedious, or maybe I'll use the players tab.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Keep the ID blank & the rest works properly.
      ID only good after your team is locked in, i.e. after GW1.

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      1. Grounderz
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        I presume the Chelsea players' values haven't updated yet especially with the doubles announced already.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          They have. They also get 0 for GW3.

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    3. FantaCity
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      I had that - answer was that it won't work on your ID until we're into the start of the season - have to enter team each time

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    4. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
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      The ID thing doesn't work at the moment as the season hasn't started. This is so that peoples teams aren't leaked before the start of FPL. For now you're just going to have to do it manually.

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      1. Grounderz
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        Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.

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    5. roscola
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      RMT has no special privileges, just like any other person looking at FPL it can only see your public team (i.e. last gameweek's team)

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    6. Grounderz
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      Thanks folks.

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  2. Winged Horsemen
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    RMT

    MIgnolet/ Lewis

    Ivanovic, Turner, Saylor (Chester/Parr)

    Walcott, Oscar, Hazard, Mirallas (Thomas)

    Aguero Sturridge Lambert

    thoughts?

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    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
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      You want Bale IMO. Get rid of Oscar, change your front 3 to Bekteke, Lukaku and J Rod- Lambert is not first choice now, Aguero is doubtful due to injury and Sturridge will at least miss the first game down to injury.

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      1. A.T
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Lambert isn't first choice?

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      2. It's only Carlton Cole…
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Who is first choice at Southampton?

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    2. It's only Carlton Cole…
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      I had Sturridge but I believe he is currently injured and is likely to miss the start of the season. Keep an eye out on pre-season line ups.

      I haven't seen much Oscar love, the double gw is tempting but is he likely to feature in both?

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
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        I'm a big fan of Oscar the player and think he'll be the guy in the middle behind the striker. Can't see why a trip back from Switzerland would make him a doubt but wait and see how many minutes he gets in pre-season having only just arrived back from his hols

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    3. smashy 'sophomore slum…
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      Great team imo...maybe Coutinho instead of Oscar?

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    4. Michu Picchu
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      I'm running with Oscar as my 3rd DGW player as well. Will get the first game in the hole and hopefully at least a sub appearance in the second. My gut feel is there won't be as big a rotation as everyone thinks between the game 1 and 2 line ups

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  3. Timon
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    Third RMT of the season.
    i think i might have covered most of the areas?
    there isn't RVP and i lack the plan of getting RVP. still early days. what do you think?
    Mignolet
    Luiz / Collins / Mertesacker
    Jarvis / Hazard / Mirallas / Bale
    Giroud (vc) / Dzeko / Lukaku (c)

    Harper / Turner / Thomas / Chester

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    1. abboudig
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Which Turner?

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      1. Timon
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        m

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      2. QPR expects... glory!
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Don;t think it matters now 🙁

        Ben is a bench player now Caulker has arrived, Michael has yet to play a minute in pre-season as still rehabbing following surgery

        BTW, if neither Bassong or Turner makes it back for the early season Martin has moved inside giving the RB spot temporarily to Whitaker.

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    2. smashy 'sophomore slum…
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      Like the captain pick could be great fun...danger of not captaining Hazard if he goes nuts though.

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  4. OptimusBlack
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    Migs (Bourc)

    Cole / Collines / Coleman ( Connolly / Chester )

    Coutinho / Hazard / Mirallas / Snodgrass ( Koren )

    Dzeko / Lukaku / Giroud

    4 M in the bank

    Use it to get any other player (Defender ) or keep it and use later

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  5. Liastro ⭐️
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    Best defender for 5m that isn't Coleman?

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    1. Kerrazy
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Kolo

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    2. roscola
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Could be Toure if Liverpool don't sign another CB

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    3. abboudig
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Toure.

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    4. Lateriser 12
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      keep an eye on Kaboul.

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      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Is he shoplifting?

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    5. A.T
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Dawson is worth a look at 5

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    6. CarelessGenius©
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Collins. Good fixtures and goal threat.

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  6. Scab
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone see Lingard as a very good 4.5 M sub option?

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    1. abboudig
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      No, not sure of game time, 4.5 are really subs for injuries, very hard fixtures so there's a chance Lingard will come in and score nothing.

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    2. Timon
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      no

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      Will likely see close to zero playing time.

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    4. thegreathoudini
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Think this will be a big season for Lingard, depending on whether he plays in the next 3 matches (AIK, Sevilla, Wigan) I think he might be able to nail a starting role. But that's just my opinion. Is he a good prospect currently for fantasy football? Currently I would say no. But I'm taking the risk anyway.

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    5. TorresMagic™
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Useful player but needs help with injuries to just get the minutes.

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      1. CarelessGenius©
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        "needs help with injuries..."? Nice way of putting it, TM.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          Hard to bench players earning a whole lot more than him. He might get a run around in Carling Cups & the like.

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  7. It's only Carlton Cole…
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    What are people's thoughts on Soldado's price when he moves to Tottenham. I guess £9.5. Will people be selecting himn if he's 9.5 or under?

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    1. Demí
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yep, from GW 2 as my Lukaku replacement

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      1. CarelessGenius©
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Balls of steel Demi. Has Swans at home (not easy fixture) and then Arse away.....you must think he's good.

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      2. Rasping Drive
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        Reckon I might take a punt on Cisse as my Lukaku replacement. Toon's fixtures are mint. Scored the other day, if he continues that, then well worth a gamble.

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          How much Wonga is Cisse?

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          1. QPR expects... glory!
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            8.5

            The Sissoko wagon will be cheaper 😉

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            1. smashy 'sophomore slum…
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              I think it's actually the Sissokomotive...and I tried to board it last season only for it too wreck 🙁

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            2. Rasping Drive
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              Worth considering as well, but unsure whether he can repeat the purple patch of last season.

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        2. Demí
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          Decent shout, but rumours that Newcastle still want to get Bent/Gomis. I''ll go with HBA for those fixtures i think. More risky but if fit, i think he'll do well.

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          1. Rasping Drive
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            Aye, HBA a good option as well; would be very interesting indeed if Bent was to move. Would probably go straight into my team GW2.

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    2. roscola
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      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/07/31/friendlies-round-up-tuesday/?hc_page=9#hc_comment_5137717

      "FPL seem to over-price potentially successful imports lest they have another Michu on their hands it seems. I'm sure at this stage they'll just take a cursory look at his stats, see the 24 goals in 33 appearances is La Ligua and slap on, at the very minimum, a 9.0 price tag."

      Totally agree with this.

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    3. Kerrazy
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      he's gonna be in my team the whole season unless he's leg is broken or something.

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    4. A.T
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      I'd have to wait and see. I've never seen the lad play. I'm always a bit wary of newcomers.

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  8. Mak_Gold
      11 years, 3 months ago

      A) (Mignolet + Lewis) + Nolan

      B) (Mannone + Boruc) + Mirallas

      Ta.

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      1. super zlatan
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        B. by a mile IMO

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    • super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Morning lads. Thoughts on below

      Migs. Boruc
      Luiz. Coleman. Collins. Chester. Burner
      Haz. Walcott. Silva. Coutinho. Thomas
      Benteke. Lukaku. Dzeko

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      1. A.T
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Very nice. I might be wrong but I think burner's place is under threat with the arrival of caulker.

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        1. super zlatan
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          11 years, 3 months ago

          I think you are right about burner.
          Best replacement for 4mil?

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          1. A.T
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            11 years, 3 months ago

            I haven't really looked at them because the options seemed so poor. Chester at hull and parr possibly but I'm not sure he's nailed on either.

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            1. super zlatan
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              11 years, 3 months ago

              Cheers. I'm not really happy with my defence.
              Could downgrade Luiz to maybe terry and upgrade burner to Clyne.
              But terry might not be nailed

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          2. Matt
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            11 years, 3 months ago

            I'd say Parr. We may concede a bunch, but he gets plenty of assists and a couple of goals here and there

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      2. Kevin Twine
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        Looks nice, SZ.

        You planning to get in RVP befre GW4?

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        1. super zlatan
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          Yeah I would gt him in for gw4. May require a hit but def will have him

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      3. abboudig
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Best team without RVP I've seen, looks very nice.

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    • Stupendous
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Migs
      Coleman Mert Luiz
      Bale Walcott Silva Hazard Yaya
      Lukaku Dzeko

      Thanks.

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      1. super zlatan
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Your subs ?

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      2. Stupendous
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Oopssssssssssssss...

        I meant

        Migs
        Murner Luiz Mertesacker
        Hazard(c) Coutinho Silva Yaya Walcott
        Dzeko Lukaku

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    • sminkypinky
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Good morning all! Return after a long summer hibernation. So... To kick things off, which would you prefer:

      Dawson or Coleman?

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      1. thegreathoudini
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        Coleman

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      2. sminkypinky
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        Oh... Got rid of the Denise Milani grav.. New season, New grav.

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        1. super zlatan
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          11 years, 3 months ago

          Coleman. More goal threat.

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          1. sminkypinky
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            Yeah... Leaning towards this. Possible oop and all.

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            1. roscola
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              Bear in mind that Martinez has stated that he'll be chopping and changing formations. Apparently they've been mostly 4 at the back in pre-season.

              I still think Coleman is a good price for a FB - he got plenty of assists from there last season - but he's not going to be wing-back every week if that's what you're banking on.

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              1. sminkypinky
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                Yeah i noticed that. Still every once in a while will do.

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      3. Pratik
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        I had Dawson for the last 10 gws. As far as I can remember Spurs only had 1 or 2 cleansheets. Highly frustrating.

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        1. sminkypinky
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          I as well Pratik.

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      4. thetinkerman
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        Clean sheets is the bread and butter of any defender, unless they are nailed-on as OOP (and I mean actually playing mostly the the attacking third).

        Think Everton will keep cleanies?

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        1. sminkypinky
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          Yeah.. Why not? Admittedly i haven't been following their pre-season.

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          1. thetinkerman
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            New manager, new tactics.

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            1. sminkypinky
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              • 13 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              But the squaq is decent enough. Still i expected a whole lot more cleanies from Tot last time round...

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              1. thetinkerman
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                I'm not saying I'm sure they won't do well, I'm just saying it's enough to put me off paying 5m.

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                1. thetinkerman
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                  Think Newcastle last year. Debouchy was 5m

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                  1. sminkypinky
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                    Good point.

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    • Djerbil
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Anyone has a link to any Match Report with Team Line ups+subs from Everton's match vs Juventus??

      Know that Mirallas scored again

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      1. Buck The Trent
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        from everton fc twitter

        howard
        stones jags distin
        baines gibson afro coleman
        peanut anichubby mirallas

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    • Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Between GW4 and 11, there's 1, maybe 2 weeks when I wouldn't captain RVP. Everyone is going to have him by the end of that run. If Bale leaves, it makes it almost pointless to start without him given the problems elsewhere in the striker area. If Bale's still there, it's going to get interesting.

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      1. HVT
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        So is it not just easier to have him from the start ?
        as IMO it will be very difficult to find the cash to get him in without wc

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      2. thetinkerman
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I'll probably bring him in with my WC in GW4 like I did last season if he starts well.

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    • Pratik
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Has the deal for Vlad Chriche broken down, or is it near completion? Getting mixed reports so I'm confused

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      1. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        same here, but just read about the 99 per cent completion. the 'broken down' reports can be considered as 'marca' reports, rubbish.

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      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Last news I have is a day ago with it being looked at.

        Lamela as a replacement for Bale is the new one.

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      3. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        oh and plus Caulker left, so its looking more likely.

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    • HVT
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      If Fabregas joins utd how much do we expect him to be ?
      Is he going into your team ? (yes for me)

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      1. r0nh
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        He won't join them.

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        1. HVT
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Speculate - entertain me 😉

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          1. r0nh
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            How about a Skype lapdance*?

            *from me

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            1. HVT
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Once it's legal
              🙂

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      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Minimum 10 imo.

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        1. sminkypinky
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          This. And would diminish Kagawas appeal.

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      3. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Yes 10.0 - 11.0 imo.

        If he joins then im going RVP from the off cant see it happening though

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    • sminkypinky
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Impossible to finalize the team yet. Too many variables still in the picture i.e. who goes and who stays. Might just take it easy and lurk for a bit.

      On another note, how many of you received all your minileague wins already? Most of my mates stiffed me up.

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      1. r0nh
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Nice mates.

        Send the heavy's around 👿

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        1. sminkypinky
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah i really should! One should always know enough people from both sides of the law... Would be so helpful in these types of situations. 😉

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      2. thetinkerman
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Agreed regarding the variables. There's no harm in discussing individual players without posting RMTs though!

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        1. sminkypinky
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          True. And i guess that's the appeal and the profit from this site. Get to know individual players better. So no rmts from me yet.

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    • mkriver
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      RMT

      Mignolet (Boruc)

      ivanovic, coleman, zabaleta, (clyne ? ), (clark ? )

      Coutinho, Walcott, Snodgrass, Hazard, ( Thomas ? )

      Benteke, Berbatov, Dzeko

      0,5 M in the bank

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      1. HVT
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Too much in backline IMO.

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    • Djerbil
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I think this guy Stones from Everton is currently ahead of Alcaraz and Heitinga on pecking order if they play 3 at the back..
      One to watch out for

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      1. Buck The Trent
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        one header hit a post, scored a penalty shout-out as well

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      2. Demí
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        No chance he's ahead of Alcaraz

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      3. roscola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Unfortunately he isn't in FPL yet. They'd surely only add him if he looks like being a regular starter and so he'd be priced as a such.

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      4. QPR expects... glory!
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Alcarz is injured. Not on the tour. Heitinga you may well be right about. He wants to leave, they seemingly want him to go

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    • r0nh
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Bale 36.4%

      RVP 36.3%

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      1. super zlatan
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Decreasing all the time.
        Bale was over 50percent at one point.

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        If bale leaves RVP will be more than 50% imo

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        1. Djerbil
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          not getting RVP and hoping He does nothing for the first 3 weeks and price drops to 13.5..
          if its the other way round I'm doomed and an early WC awaits

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      3. Pratik
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Things could change dramatically here....

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      4. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Ronaldo?

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        1. Djerbil
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          link to La Liga fantasy

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    • super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Luiz. Haz. Lukaku. Benteke is my dgw coverage.

      Too much? I don't plan to WC early so will probably need to take a hit

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      1. Matt
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I wouldn't take Benteke, but that's just me

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      2. HVT
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Are you sure Luiz gets 2 games ?
        Terry .5 cheaper is safer

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Wouldn't say he's safer either.

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          1. HVT
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Could you name Chelsea backline order in terms of 'safeness' please TM iyo please?

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            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 15 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Cole. That's plenty. The rest are a lottery. Terry has MU in GW2 which is more important than Villa.

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              1. HVT
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                Agreed - but Terry's handy if your stuck for cash ,
                Who's your current 3 TM for che dgw ?

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                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 15 Years
                  11 years, 3 months ago

                  Cole Hazard & Lukaku probably.

                  Don't bother with my team until the last week as so much changes.

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            2. Frank Spankhard
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Cashley, Ivan, Luiz, Terry, Cahill, Azpi, Bertrand

              Four centre backs, almost wouldn't surprise me if they play 2 and 2.

              It's Cole or Azpi for me, or avoid them and go with mids and Lukaku, or Cech.

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          2. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Where would Ivanovic fit in the safety order? Think in just going to go with whoever the scouts pick on the Friday before season kick-off...

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        2. super zlatan
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Is terry really safer though?

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          1. HVT
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            IMO yes as luiz plays with brazil at start if season , I suppose ultimately Czech , cole , terry , Ivan , luiz in that order but I stand to be corrected sz.

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      3. Buck The Trent
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        i reckon -4 will be repaid easily if you have those 3

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      4. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Never too much for the extra player.

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      5. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I've gone for Benteke with Lukaku, Hazard and Cole. Cole just feels like the safest investment.

        Plan will be to swap both Cole and Lukaku or Benteke depending on the needs of the team (likely the 1st choice City forward) and have Haz and the remaining forward on the bench for GW3.

        As long as you have 2 cheap players with 1/2 decent fixtures to call on for GW3, you'll be fine without a hit.

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    • Valar(Keith)
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Not an RMT.. more of a strategy. How about go for 4 risky players of mid price(CAPS) and reliable players elswehere
      Mignolet (Lewis)
      Coleman Turner Collins Clyne Chester
      Walcott Coutinho Hazard Mirallas LAMPARD
      BENTEKE LUKAKU DZEKO

      Take a hit GW 3 to swap out 3 of the 4 for the budget/bighitting/medium priced options that appear.. low risk, huge reward. the rest of the squad safe enough to fall back on

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      1. roscola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Sounds like you'd plan to save your first FT. You're a stronger man than me if you can do that 😉

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      2. Buck The Trent
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        benching issues? GW1 you need to bench one of coutinho, mirallas or walcott

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        1. Valar(Keith)
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          mirallas(nor).. then swap one of Lamps, Bent, Lukaku for a cheapie(whoever looks good) and bench him.. then use the freed up cash on upgradin the other two

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      3. Fray Bentos
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Pointless in having a front 8 who are all worthy of your first XI. Downgrade 1 and invest in defence a bit more

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    • DDC
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Hey lads what do you think? Looking at heavy midfield, as I dont fancy many of the big hitting forwards yet.

      Migs, Lewis
      Ivanovic Toure Alcaraz Collins Parr
      Hazard Walcott Coutinho Mirallas Sessegnon
      Benteke JRod Lukaku

      If Lukaku doesn't work our I can swap him to Giroud with the 0.5 in the bank.

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    • Anonymous
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Is Gerrard worth a punt at 9m?

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Rather Coutinho.

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        1. thetinkerman
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          They are both good options for sure.

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 15 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            One is better than the other imo. Others agree below.

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            1. thetinkerman
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              I'd rather have Coutinho too, but Gerrard has a knack of racking up FPL points year after year

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              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 15 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                Only because he plays the whole season. Coutinho getting similar minutes will make Gerrard look old.

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                1. thetinkerman
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                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 3 months ago

                  Playing every minute is a pre-requisite when you're splashing that kind of cash though so let's hope Coutinho does get the game time

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                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                    • 15 Years
                    11 years, 3 months ago

                    Have a look at his previous 2 seasons. That's the only reason he's that price. Gerrard has pretty much outscored that score in his 1st 3 season with less minutes. He's shrinking FPL wise.

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      2. Pratik
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Too expensive for a punt at this point of time

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      3. Djerbil
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Coutinho>Gerrard

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      4. Billy Gilmore
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Would rather Coutinho.

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      5. Anonymous
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Gerrard Selected by 6.2%, whereas Coutinho by 20.4%, which makes him a good differential i guess.

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    • thetinkerman
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      With Caulker gone, it certainly makes Dawson and Kaboul more appealing, especially if Vert missed the start of the season. The question is though, would you start with one of them and risk them getting dropped when Vert gets back?

      At 5m they are good value, but I think I'd rather save 0.5m and get Collins/Clyne/Turner, get Toure (if they don't sign a CB) or spend 0.5m extra and get Mert/Kosc.

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      1. Pratik
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        How about if Tottenham complete the signing of Vlad Chirche? Won't that complicate things?

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        1. thetinkerman
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Enough to put me off any of their options for sure.

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        2. Get up ya bum
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Almost a done deal. If not they will sign a quality defender.

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        3. QPR expects... glory!
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Very much so 🙁

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      2. sminkypinky
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Toure is a non brainer for me.

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        1. thetinkerman
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Keep an eye out for another CB signing. I'm sure Rodgers will want another CB.

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    • Kings of Lyon ★
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Anyone keeping cash in the bank to do Lukaku to RVP GW2 ?

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        /

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      2. Djerbil
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        currently have 3m in the Bank but its for an emergency Bale buy

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      3. Michu Picchu
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        not gw2

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      4. Michu Picchu
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        i'm hoping Sturridge is on the scene by then and I can trade him in

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        1. thetinkerman
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          This.

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      5. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Moi.

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      6. HVT
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I'm trying to work on that basis ATM , but I'm tempted just to go with Rvp from start
        - Nailed on
        - on Pens
        - on corners
        - utd always score
        - more or less guarantes you points
        - the best default Captain choice I've ever seen
        - can score against anyone/fixture proof
        - all IMO.
        The big problem for me is the elephant in the room that no one speaks about is Suarez arriving back on the scene after ban ......

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        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          All very valid points, but as far as Suarez goes, it's too far ahead to plan for (6 games, right?).

          I have a semi-secure plan for the first 4 game weeks, but i'm sure an injury, transfer, loss of form or suspension will mess with that.

          Suarez should be on everyones radar and i think ownership will rocket as soon as he's back in the mix, planned for or not.

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    • HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      What do people think about this update on the Bale / Real Madrid saga... Seems genuine... Would it be a good deal for Spurs if it's agreed?

      http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/31/tottenham-gareth-bale-alvaro-morata

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        If Spurs do not accept a bit of 80m+ then theyre nuts

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        1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          I can see the logic in this deal though... If you take the future of our club - we'd like to take yours in exchange...

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        2. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          I don't think Levy has any intention of keeping Bale, he just knows he can gouge Real for a bit more than they've so far offered. He lives for these business games.

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          1. Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            This. Milking them. Bale's gone.

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            1. Kings of Lyon ★
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              Dont want to push them too far though. They wont get an offer like this again.

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          2. Get up ya bum
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah he did the some with berbatov/carrick/modric

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          3. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Do you reckon he could 'gouge' Morata from them or is that asking too much... Would make the deal much sweeter IMO...

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            1. roscola
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 12 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              That would be a brilliant deal for Spurs - would solve their striker issues at a stroke with some big future resale money into the bargain - but as the article says, Real only let Higuain go because they had Morata as backup for Benzema.

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              1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 3 months ago

                They could easily utilise Bale as their centre forward... Like Spurs did during the 2nd half of last season...?

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                1. roscola
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 3 months ago

                  True enough.

                  I'd like this saga to end one way or another before the GW1 deadline. I don't want a repeat of last season's Van der Vaart fail 👿 😆

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                  1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 3 months ago

                    Yeah - it could REALLY screw up GW1 if it's still not sorted... Bale could get a monster score against Palace if he's there - but will people risk having him if it's still not certain if he'll leave or not...

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      2. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        They gotta sell

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    • Water_Pink
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Any one else gone for navas?

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Silva for me.

        Won't write off Navas but Silva looks a safer option and a very well suited to FPLs new BPS...

        ...plus he owes me for my continued faith last season.

        Navas on standby if Silva fails to deliver or if Navas' stocks rise.

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      2. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Its a food punt but im too happy with My midfield

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    • r0nh
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/

      The Sun updated their website; now it's shit.

      I will never register with them!

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    • Djerbil
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yesterday was the last day to trigger Fellaini's 22m release clause and no one did it.. Or do we still have time as its still July 31st in the US??

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      1. r0nh
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I thought it was about a week ago

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        1. Djerbil
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          No I'm the certain the Clause expires on August 1

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      2. Get up ya bum
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Its too high. The bids will come after it expires

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Do you think he will move? I have him in TWS.

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          1. Djerbil
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            think He will be United's last chance salon if they can't get Fabregas or Modric

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    • Bubbles
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      So where has my downvote power gone?

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        1. Bubbles
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          I can't say I like this.

          *downvotes* Oh, wait...

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Got removed by HC. Trying to align with FB and Twitter. I quite liked it. Down voting a few posters made them clean up their act and stop posting guff

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        1. Bubbles
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Aye, I liked it too.

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 15 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            Become a competition for the lowest score for some.

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            1. Bubbles
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 3 months ago

              That's why I kinda liked it. 😉

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