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The Sun Dream Team – Selection Guide – Midfielders

Our third selection guide for The Sun Dream Team has us digging deep into our pockets to fund some big money moves. Whether you’re opting for a 4-3-3 or a four-man midfield, there’s little doubt that only the bravest Dream Team manager will overlook the big names in the middle of the park.

As always, we plunder last season’s data for some clues on the strategies involved, assess the impact of the cup competitions, analyse how best to use the Transfer Windows and line up the top candidates on offer to fit any budget.

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The Sun Dream Team – Top Ten Midfielders – 2012/13

NameTeamStarts7+ RatingsStar ManGoalsCSPoints
MataChelsea5444151819331
BaleTottenham Hotspur4430132612304
HazardChelsea483281320235
WalcottArsenal312442113230
CazorlaArsenal472861217209
MichuSwansea City411942214208
LampardChelsea362251716205
OscarChelsea472731218186
GerrardLiverpool422831016176
FellainiEverton362351210162

It only takes a single glance at the table above, in comparison to the numbers we’ve seen in our previous selection guides, to confirm that midfield is a priority when it comes to our Sun Dream Team budget.

As we can see by the number of Star Man and 7+ ratings accrued by the top midfielders, there are huge points to be earned from the engine room.

Significantly, it’s also worth noting that, amongst the top ten above, only Michu and Marouane Fellaini (who both enjoyed outstanding seasons for goals) were amongst the ranks of a team outside of the top six.

That’s perhaps not surprising. With Star Man and ratings points often favouring winning sides, plus with two additional points on offer from clean sheets, it’s midfielders amongst the title contenders who should be our prime targets.

As we’ll see, this is compounded by the fact that those teams involved in European competition have a guarantee of more fixtures to help boost their players’ appeal.

Juan Mata’s statistics are staggering and it’s hard to believe that, in a season where Gareth Bale emerged as a true world-class talent, the Chelsea man still ranked above him thanks to a schedule that afforded him 54 Dream Team starts. That again emphasises the importance of those extra European fixtures.

Goals clearly remain a key factor, with all of the top ten reaching double figures over the campaign – Theo Walcott’s tally of 21 strikes in just 31 starts is particularly impressive – significantly, that included five goals scored in the Capital One Cup, underlining how the domestic competitions can play their part.

In addition, it’s worth noting that all aside from Michu achieved 7+ ratings in well over 50% of their starts. Again, Mata’s numbers are impressive here, amassing 7+ ratings on 44 of his 54 starts.

Our criteria is pretty clear, then – we need midfield mainstays, goalscorers, ideally amongst teams with the promise of European fixtures. If we don’t target prolific scorers, we should instead look to heavily influential figures such as Mata Steven Gerrard and Santi Cazorla, who will regularly fetch high ratings and Star Man awards.

To pursue such treasured assets, we’ll need to spend big, as it’s obvious that midfield is not an area of our Dream Team lineup where we can often afford to take a punt and save cash.

Cup Campaigns

European campaigns were clearly a factor behind the ranking of Chelsea’s midfield – both Mata and Oscar benefited greatly from the Champions League, with the Spaniard earning 34 points, while Oscar collected no less than 58 points from the Blues’ European exploits. Eden Hazard and Frank Lampard also benefitted, mainly in the Europa League, earning 35 and 39 extra points respectively.

Favouring those sides with European football (United, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Swansea and Tottenham) is an obvious strategy. Having made it to the play-off stage, Swansea’s players are boosted with two more matches in August (prior to Transfer Window 1), with a potential six group stage matches to come, four of which will be played out before Transfer Window 2 is open. The same applies to Tottenham, who must also navigate through their play-off tie to earn passage to the group stages.

In the Champions League, Arsenal have a two-legged play-off prior to Transfer Window 1 to bolster the appeal of their squad and could then have six group stage matches, along with United, City and Chelsea. Again, four of these fixtures are played prior to Transfer Window 2, which should offer us a good idea of who is most likely to progress.

While the number of European appearances can be somewhat guaranteed, that isn’t the case on the domestic front. Rest and rotation in the Capital One Cup amongst those sides in Europe looks inevitable so, again, it might be best to consider those teams with only domestic distractions. Having said that, with money lavished freely in this area, there’s no real reason to look beyond the title contenders to fill our three or four man midfields, unless you’re drawn to a punt in a “lesser” side.

Window Watching

Given that the midfield area is so crucial, we’ll need to exploit the transfer windows to tweak our lineups.

As mentioned in our guide to defenders, Transfer Window 1 opens with just three Premier League fixtures played out, on September 3. You’ll have three trades to use before Gameweek 4 on September 14 and it’s likely that at least one will be required to address a change in midfield.

Injuries and suspensions aside, security of starts and form will be major factors here, with perhaps a new arrival convincing from the off, or a clear pattern of rotation emerging that looks set to damage the output of an established player. Last season we saw Michu explode as a prospect, leading to a scramble of investment across the games; the same scenario could transpire this term.

Fixtures are, of course, another factor that will steer our tactics for the first two Transfer Windows. Our Season Ticker is available to help you assess not only those teams who open the season strongly, but also those who have obliging spells leading up to Transfer Window 2. Members can use the “Attacking” filter to view those teams tipped to score the most goals over a given Gameweek range.

The full Members Ticker can also be restricted to show Gameweeks 3-11, allowing the analysis of fixtures between the Transfer Window 1 and 2. As an example, this reveals that Liverpool face a run of favourable Anfield encounters in that spell, with Southampton, Palace, West Brom and Fulham all due on Merseyside prior to the Transfer Window 2. This may encourage investment in a certain Brazilian schemer; more on that to come.

The European and domestic cup competitions also have to be considered. The Capital One Cup reaches the fourth round by October 28, so, by the time Transfer Window 2 swings open, you can begin to tailor your lineup accordingly.

The European schedule is more of a concern. As mentioned, the Europa League and Champions League are both still in the group stages by November’s Transfer Window, although, by then, the qualifiers for the knockout stages may be obvious.

The FA Cup Third Round does not take place until January 4, so progress here only becomes a factor for Transfer Window 3, which opens on January 21.

The Players

Given City’s kind start to the campaign, David Silva has to be on our radars. The Spaniard has a rich Dream Team pedigree, having topped the midfielder rankings in 2011/12 (190 points) and 2010/11 (221 points). Silva is a player who has previously harvested 7+ ratings and Star Man awards to compliment a steady, if unspectacular, supply of goals.

There are many factors in his favour from the off: much is expected of Manuel Pellegrini’s side in attacking terms and Silva is set to be a the fulcrum, perhaps deployed behind the striker where he can influence matches and inflict damage. Secondly, City’s opening fixtures are nothing short of superb in terms of their schedule of opponents. Thirdly, City have European football and Silva should be integral to the campaign – that should see him profit from further starts, even if it’s likely to mean rest periods for the domestic cups.

Finally, there is Silva’s price. After a disappointing Dream Team campaign, the playmaker has dropped to just £5.5 million this term – a kind valuation given his previous exploits in the game. With doubts over starters up front, Silva’s case for a place in our initial midfields looks exceptionally strong.

Jesus Navas is perhaps the one caveat to investment in Silva. Available for just £4 million, the winger looks keenly priced and will again benefit from City’s obliging opening schedule. Perhaps less secure than Silva in Pellegrini’s midfield and unproven in Premier League terms, he’s nonetheless a serious consideration at that price. Doubling on the City pair even looks a credible option.

The Chelsea midfield is a rich source of Fantasy points across the games, not least in The Sun Dream Team. Mata is again well fancied, although investment is also going in the direction of Eden Hazard, who is perhaps expected to earn more starts than his Spanish team-mate. The situation is difficult to call: Jose Mourinho has given various hints that he will rotate heavily and, in Hazard’s position he has the likes of Victor Moses, Andre Schurrle and Kevin De Bruyne to call upon. Hazard has stood up well in pre-season, however, and will push Mata close this term.

Right now, Mata has proved more popular, attracting more investment than any other midfielder (32.5%) – much of that could be down to his total from last season, and, with Hazard available for half a million less (£7.0m vs £6.5m) and perhaps more likely to figure in both of Chelsea’s opening fixtures due to Mata’s summer campaign with Spain, there’s a clear differential on offer here.

However, we have to consider that Chelsea were huge beneficiaries of a successful Europa League campaign and we shouldn’t necessarily be swayed by last season’s burgeoning points totals. Given the threat of rotation in Mourinho’s ranks, there is perhaps a case to avoid recruitment from the Chelsea midfield.

Arsenal’s top guns – namely Theo Walcott (£5.5m) and Santi Cazorla (£6.0m) – are perhaps stronger options. The Gunners have to navigate a Champions League qualifying round, boosting the short-term appeal of their players, who will enjoy two additional fixtures prior to Transfer Window 1. That brings both Walcott and Cazorla to the table, with the smart money on the former to offer the best value. Walcott outscored Cazorla last term (230 vs 209) despite starting 16 fewer matches and is the cheaper Dream Team option this time around. Arguably, however, with both set to be key figures in Arsenal’s opening fixtures and the qualifier with Fenerbahce, there is a case to go into Transfer Window 1 with the pair.

While European football isn’t on offer at Anfield, Liverpool’s Philippe Coutinho is a player earning a lot of pre-season attention. Ranked second to Mata in term of Dream Team investment (26.6%), he’s not only been outstanding over the summer, he ended the last campaign in sparkling form.

Indeed, only two midfielders – Gareth Bale and Shaun Maloney – earned more Dream Team points that Coutinho over the final 12 matches (56). In just 12 starts, Coutinho featched 7+ ratings on nine occasions and, if Luis Suarez departs, he would seem set to improve on his two Star Man awards by some margin this season. Priced at just £2.0 million in the last campaign, he’s been hiked to £4.0m but, even with that inflated price and without the promise of European fixtures, the Brazilian looks well worthy of inclusion in our initial lineups – particularly given that Liverpool start the campaign with a favourable schedule up to Transfer Window 2.

Classed as a striker last season, Everton’s Kevin Mirallas is now in the mix for midfield selection and looks a prospect. Widely expected to earn starts on the right of a front three under Roberto Martinez, the Belgian seems set to have the platform to build on his impressive debut season in which he struck nine goals in 28 Dream Team starts. Everton are another side who look primed for an impressive opening to their season, having been handed a decent array of early fixtures. Mirallas, at £3.5 million, stands out in the mid-price bracket as cover for the attacking brand of football expected to come out of Goodison.

Norwich City’s Robert Snodgrass also looks kindly priced at just £3 million. A protagonist in his debut season at Carrow Road, the Scot should be a key figure again and with Chris Hughton boosting his fire power with the signings of Ricky Van Wolfswinkel and Gary Hooper, we’re expecting more end product from Snodgrass’ deliveries. A domestic cup run would add further value, making the Canaries man a canny acquisition for those requiring to dip down through the price brackets to fund a four-man midfield.

In truth, this is one position where raiding the budget bracket is unlikely to be on the agenda. Even when deploying a 4-4-2, there’s a strong argument to say that you should avoid sinking below the £3 million mark, unless you’ve good reason to back a punt.

United’s Wilfried Zaha is one such gamble. The former Palace man has attracted an impressive level of ownership (5.8%), no doubt buoyed by some strong pre-season showings. At just £1.5 million, there’s a clear case for Zaha, who is likely to get plenty of opportunity for starts across the competitions given United’s schedule.

Domestic cups could be Zaha’s main platform but David Moyes is yet to show his true hand in terms of formation and likely starting XI. As we’ve mentioned in our previous guides, given their tough opening schedule, Sun Dream Team managers can wait until after Transfer Window 1 before upping their interest in Old Trafford assets and that looks the best strategy with Zaha.

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2,718 Comments Post a Comment
  1. BMox81
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    Really wish I'd stuck with not playing this year - it's too hard to pick a team that I'm confident with.

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  2. Smarty Pants
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    why no love for Michael Dawson around here?

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    1. Keane There Dunne That
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Kaboul is back

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    2. Webby_03
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Is he going to play? Will THFC keep clean sheets?

      Thats the issues!

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    3. Jeremiah
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      Was really considering him myself, decent fixtures!

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    4. FPL Daniel
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      AVB is shit in defending

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  3. Lightbody
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Any news on the Ultimate Fantasy Game, ie cost, what it involves, when it's available?

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    1. Declan-
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Nothing 🙁

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    2. MCH
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      No one knows (although maybe the scouts do but are keeping it quiet!) seems they are leaving it very late.

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    3. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      At this stage, 5 days before the start of the season, I find it hard to believe it will still go live...hardly enough time to read rules, pick team, pay money?

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      1. Manani
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        People take an hour at most to pick their team

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        1. MCH
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          If it goes live Saturday morning I am in for sure!

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    4. FPL Daniel
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think someone mentioned will start GW 2. Surely not starting pre GW1. Or it could come together with the winter WC

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  4. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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    Right Fella's... I've been away for a bit and been getting my team together over the last couple days... here's where it's at:

    Boruc,Mignolet
    Baines,Ward,Koscielny,Brayford,Toure
    Kim,Silva,Walcott,Hazard,Brady
    Giroud,Soldado,Lukaku

    Any thoughts would be most welcome! 🙂

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    1. Andrew
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      IMO Giroud and Theo is overkill, get some Liverpool

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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        lol, is Toure and Mignolet not enough Liverpool? 😉

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        1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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          I think he meant attacking wise

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      2. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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        Yeah I'm inclined to agree. I'd go with Walcott and bring Giroud in if he hits some form.

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        1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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          yeah fair enough... Will look at Giroud replacement options 🙂

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    2. SC not pearls before swine
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      Works for me. No interest in a Chelsea defender over Baines for the first week?

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      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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        10 years, 9 months ago

        I like the idea of having Chelsea attackers since thats where the bandwagons happen and I'll be looking to offload anyway... I did have Cole and a cheapy instead of Koscielny and Toure... I might still revert back to that if I can make it work. thanks for the thought

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  5. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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    Re-post from last article, apologies.

    This could be a 'user error' but I can't find the KPI tables in the members' area. Have they not gone live yet? Thanks.

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    1. Prime
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      They're under Player Stats. Pick a category and the KPI tables will show as options in the top bar.

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        Thanks!

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  6. Baines on Toast...
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    • 13 Years
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    Spot the punt 😮

    Foster (Boruc)

    Terry - Toure - Lescott (M. Turner, Debuchy)

    Hazard - Walcott - Lampard - Silva (Brady)

    Soldado - Sturridge - Maiga

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    1. Jar Jar Winks
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Sturridge?????

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    2. Smarty Pants
      • 14 Years
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      where is Baines?!!

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  7. You've got red on you.
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Need help with my bench.

    Currently:

    GK - Harper (4m)

    Def: Garrido (4.5m), Baker (4m)

    Mid: Thomas (4.5m)

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    1. Zat Knight Rises
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      Wow. No 4.0 keeper will play so its up to you wether you think you have a safe enough first team keeper. Baker won't feature much at all. Thomas is injured I believe. Replacements being maybe ravel Morrison ( not sure how much game time he will get) or Kim if you can afford the extra 0.5. Best 4.0 defender is Brayford. Ward and Chester are the other two options who will be nailed on

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  8. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    RMT please people (repost)

    Mignolet (Davis)
    Terry Mert Zab (Collins, Chester)
    Walcott Snod Haz Silva (Mirallas)
    Lambert Anelka Benteke
    0.5m in the bank

    Will probably transfer one dgw player out the following week, terry to debuchy/toure/coleman maybe

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Howdie C, a little too bottom heavy and top light for my liking - three 'premium defenders' is a bit too much, imo. I'd downgrade one of them from the start and up the front-line a bit, i.e. Anelka to Dzeko or something like that.

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      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Hey Pepin. Yeah I'm thinking of starting with terry for dgw punt and then swapping him out for a cheaper option especially if a bargain option comes out of the first gameweek. Will use money to upgrade Anelka or Benteke.

        How are you set?

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I haven't really changed my team much, just waiting for some more news on Friday press-conferences and gearing up for an epic Friday night DZ 😀

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  9. Sleep Talk
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    • 12 Years
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    For those of you not playing the Sun-game: 10 years ago today, a certain Portuguese was signed to a certain club in Manchester. Just stumbled upon a video of his debut.

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    1. Sleep Talk
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      Anf there it is: http://youtu.be/m2ha1a74hm8

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  10. The Belgian Bun Fight!
    Demí
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    Welcome to Fantasy Football Scout's Afternoon Hot Topic discussion:

    The debate this afternoon revolves around the two Belgian brutes, Benteke and Lukaku.

    Are you currently going with:

    A) Benteke
    B)Lukaku
    C) Both
    D) Neither.

    And if C, are you completely set on taking a hit or two in the first couple gw's?

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    1. MCH
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      C

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      1. MCH
        • 13 Years
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        Nothing set in stone hit wise but assuming I probably will.

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    2. Bumbaclot
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Neither

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    4. champ20ns
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Going with both and planning to WC after GW1 or GW2. Most probably GW1

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    5. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      C) for sure and I will either take a hit or two in the first couple of GW's or WC early.

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    6. Eboue
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      D. Lukaku is the only one I'm even almost considering for the first little while. I'll have them at some point though im sure

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    7. Baines on Toast...
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      • 13 Years
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      A or D. There's better value elsewhere in Chelsea and Benteke is competing with a lot of nailed on options who could explode early on, but I do fancy him at home to Pool as well.

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    8. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      B

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    9. Piggs Boson
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      A. I don't think Lukaku will play both, and as for Benteke... http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2039817/Benteke_Goal_1.gif

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
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        The move before the shot is referred to as the Shake & Bake 😀

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    10. Webby_03
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      D - Lukaku not guarenteed DGW mins and Benteke got 2xHard teams to score against

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    11. Keane There Dunne That
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      C and hoping someone unexpected like Giroud/Berba/Carroll have a good start and bring them in before GW3

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    12. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      C.
      P.S. How do you know that you are gonna be hulked in advance..? Do you have some connections with the scout... ?

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      1. Demí
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        10 years, 9 months ago

        I didn't.. it was just a joke 🙂

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        1. FPL Daniel
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          Suspicious 😉 😀 😛

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    13. Sleep Talk
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      B. Think he'll start the Hull-game for sure. And even if he only gets a few minutes against Villa, he'll do better than Benteke imo.

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    14. Manani
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      C at the moment, but may get Giroud instead of benteke, then I can save on my hit

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    15. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm certainly HT'ing this just because I have a great pun to use 😉

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        The Belgian Bun fight 😆

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      2. Eboue
        • 11 Years
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        😀

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      3. Mílanista
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        😀

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      4. Parm
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        Love it. 😆

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      5. In Like Flynn.
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        Where? 😉

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      6. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        So Mark goes with C..?

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    16. SC not pearls before swine
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      Both. Probably will spend 4, not 100% sure though.

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    17. Bumbaclot
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      Surely Lukaku will get 90 mins maximum and Bentekes fixtures are disgusting.

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    18. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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      A for dgw and because more guaranteed minutes

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    19. Kevin Twine
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      • 12 Years
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      B.

      I think Lukaku will start both and he has the potential to rip it up.

      With Benteke, I think it's pointless getting him when his potential upside isn't great and you'll most probably want to ship him out by GW3 due to their blank & poor fixtures. Sturridge, on the other hand, could easily outscore him in GW1 and you won't have the issue of having to ship him out..

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      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
        • 11 Years
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        I like your logic, but I just think guaranteed 180mins has to be worth something and he has been devastating preseason. I really worry about how often Sturridge gets injured too.

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      2. Demí
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        Yeah Benteke doesn't have much upside. I think my main reason for going with him, is simply that he's guaranteed 180 minutes, and the City strikers are a risk. It gives me a week to see which striker to bring in with doubts over Sturridge, City, and Giroud(just how he'll perform). He's in good form in pre season, and Chelsea/Arsenal defenders are prone to the odd defensive blooper. But it is wasting a transfer afterwards, probably a hit so it's tricky.

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        1. Manani
          • 12 Years
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          Exactly my thought

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        2. Kevin Twine
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          • 12 Years
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          That's fair enough, decent logic there.

          I think it also depends if you want RVP or not though. I feel comfortable having Lukaku in my team as I'm saving £6.0m in the bank for a switch in GW 2.

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      3. SC not pearls before swine
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        That would be my stance if studge was fit. I'm going to need to hear something concrete from Rodgers before I take him. 180 minutes vs a possible 60 or even 15 is quite the gamble.

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        1. Kevin Twine
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          • 12 Years
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          I agree.

          From what Rodgers said yesterday though it's looking optimistic.

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    20. Smarty Pants
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      I can't decide!
      I've been constantly switching between Zab & Lukaku and Dawson & Benteke lately...
      Currently Lukaku, but I'll have to get rid of him after GW1, which very likely means a 4 point hit. Benteke doesn't need to be transfered out immediately, but he is more expensive and I'd prefer to have Zab than Dawson...

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    21. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lukaku at the moment. Maybe neither though.

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    22. Yome
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    23. Corrigan
      • 13 Years
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      C - as there are 2 scenarios:

      a) both blank in game 1, in which case they will have another bite of the cherry
      b) both rip it up in their respective first games and if they do and you own neither or just one, it FF agony

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      1. Demí
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        Good points. I think going with both is more safe than risky tbh.

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    24. SW6
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      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    25. Large Hardon Colluder
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B then transfer to Giroud GW2

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    26. Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Going lukaku although he may be rotated i think hoping for him to get 60 min v hull and score a couple anything after that a bonus

      Bentek dont see him scoring v solid arsenal and chelsea sides but will think of getting after gw3

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    27. Hamstergod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B) He only needs 10-15 minutes to score and with those teams well even less might do.

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    28. Ings on the up
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    29. Pete Campbell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      D!

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    30. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lukaku only. So B.

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    31. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Has to be C for me... both.

      only because I think Negredo, Dzeko, Soldado, Sturridge and all other good alternatives at around the price are huge risk, and 90min doubts, let alone 180min possibles.

      As an aside, it's vital the Chelsea defender you go with is nailed on GW1 and a goal threat. 2 reasons why it needs to be JT or Ivanovic... so you can cheer a Benteke goal in both games.

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    32. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      C. Not taking a hit unless anything happens out of the ordinary (eg bony/negredo hat trick or injury to key player).

      I'll Use Tekkers all season long and Lukaku will be gone on GW1 or 2's freebie.

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  11. CHANCING PUNT
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Off to Croatia next week, anyone on here ever been or have any tips on places to definitely go? Flying into Dubrovnik and heading up to Split and Hvar from there.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Where's Forca when you need him...

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Between those three places, there is plenty to do and see. If you are a GoT fan, you will have a chance to see King's Landing, too 🙂

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Not from Croatia but from the Balkans. Great choice, I think you will like Dubrovnik especially. But it is the most expensive one from those 3. Everything is close and there are some tours all the time. In Split is also nice and the Iceland Hvar is nice Island. Don't expect to much party I can say. The water is clean and in my taste little bit cold.

        Forca will tell you not to go in Split cause he is fan of Dinamo Zagreb and there plays Hajduk Split.

        I think Dubrovnik the best then Hvar then Split.
        You will manage for sure 😉

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      2. CHANCING PUNT
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        They're starting filming there on the 20th I've read, the exact date I fly in. Would it be wrong to spend an entire holiday being an extra?

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          You can be the next boytoy for Cersei at court, could be a worse holiday, right? 😉

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    3. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Nip down to Forca's house, he'll treat you to some nice Van Persie montages...

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Check the old city too. Wonderful. Like Mote Carlo

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    4. Spoonerism
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      If you fancy a day trip from Hvar go to Korcula. We stayed there one summer... it's really beautiful.

      Much more quiet than Hvar though (which is the party island I believe) so if you're not looking for peace and quiet then disregard this... 🙂

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      1. matej - cruising casually
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        They say Marco Polo was born on Korcula island.

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  12. Bumbaclot
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Is sturridge and coutinho overkill??

    Also is everyone agreed silva is nailed on for GW1??

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    1. The Bearded One
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Silva is as nailed on as it gets. Go for Sturridge and Coutinho if you think they'll score well.

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  13. champ20ns
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Still thinking of going all out for the DGW and wildcarding straight after. With that in mind anyone care to RMT?

    Mig
    Cole, Collins, Vlarr,
    Walcott, Hazard, Nolan, Westwood,
    RVP, Lukaku, Benteke

    Originally had toure and Kim over Westwood and Vlarr

    Thoughts?

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  14. Jeremiah
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    A or B ?

    A - Mingolet, Koscienly & Thomas

    B. Szczeny, Toure & Kim

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    1. Bumbaclot
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A

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  15. fdotman
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    GW2

    Lukaku --> Cisse

    who's with me on this?

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'll be getting Bony

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  16. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone playing the Sun game?

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Worst Fantasy Game i've seen my whole life

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      1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        worse than this: http://www.fashionfantasygame.com/ ?

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      2. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        But you've never played any FPL before?

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, I'm 'managing' my gf's work team...

      Fun times!...

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    3. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Of Course. 😉

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    4. Shakermeister
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yes I do . Wish there was more love for it here . I run a works mini league and although FPL is a good game it requires far to much maintenance for your average Jo . That's why we play the Sun game , more punters , more cash . Sorry . Wish there was a little more love for it on this forum . You can still glean a lot of insight from people's posts here though. Good luck for the coming season .

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      1. d1sable
        • Has Moderation Rights
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Its the whole transfer window thing that removes the skill of it though. Last season i had Rooney and Aguero upfront. They both got injured first game and that was my season done.

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        1. Shakermeister
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          That's what annoys me too , but I don't really play for the Sun prizes I run a works mini league with first prize of £600 , manager of the month prize of about £80 . With about 20 people in it the odds of wining are a lot better ! With the 1st transfer window so early it also means we can usually catch up by the end . It's much more fun !

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  17. SkyByBo
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Can i get a bit of advice on these 2 teams

    Team 1- no RVP

    Boruc Foster
    Toure Cole Lescott Collins Brayford
    Hazard Silva Walcott Nolan Thomas
    Sturridge Lukaku Giroud

    Team 2- With RVP

    Boruc Foster
    Toure Terry Coleman Collins Brayford
    Snodgrass Walcott Hazard Nolan Thomas
    RVP Sturridge JRod

    Which do you prefer and why???

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    1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      watch out - collins may not start

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  18. hnmfm
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Aspas or Nolan?

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Neither

      Seriously, they're both worse than each other. Waste of space

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      1. hnmfm
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        What other 7 mil options do I have?

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        1. get_in
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Paulinho? Although I'd rather save 0.5 and take snodgrass.

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        2. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Aspas is a striker.

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    2. Cyril Figgis
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Aspas.

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  19. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    a) silva and aspas + 0.5mil
    b) dzeko and coutinho

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  20. Pete Campbell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Surely Clyne will be back for GW2 onward when you actually want him

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    1. Kukkuu
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      How to get Mirallas in instead of James Morrison? Now 0 m in the bank and the team looks like:

      Mignolet, Boruc
      Terry, Merte, Collins, Coleman, Brayford
      Walcott, Hazard, Silva, Morrison (J), Morrison (R)
      Lukaku, Soldado, Benteke

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  21. Manani
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    How did benteke do last season in his away games against the top 6?
    Seems like he has 2 of the hardest fixture one can imagine, but his ore season form is hard to ignore

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    1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I remember him scoring well at Anfield

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      1. Jar Jar Winks
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        and at villa park

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      2. asquishypotato
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Shame Liverpool came 7th...but I was asking myself the same question. Whilst I think he is a great player I don't remember him doing so well against the top 5?

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        1. Manani
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          And they are against arguably the strongest home team, and the 2nd strongest defense last season. I mean if I have an arsenal and Chelsea defender, I am expecting a CS for sure

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      3. Woeisme
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Were Liverpool in the top 6 ?

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        1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Fair point 🙂

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  22. JoeySamSam
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Who are the best 4.5 / 5.0 defender options please?

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Dawson
      Coleman
      Murner

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      5.0- toure, kaboul, coleman

      4.5- collins

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  23. asquishypotato
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Is Walcott and Giroud overkill? I don't have Coutinho or any city players.

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think they are both great options.

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    2. get_in
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I don't think so. I think Walcott is pretty much essential, so I don't think having another ars player could be called overkill.

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    3. FFCBERB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not a stat related answer, but whenever i watched their partnership last year they have a lot of direct link up play. Especially with some corners being in Walcotts pocket and Giroud's strength in the air. If Giroud can loosen up and find some overall consistency, and remains Arsene's #1 striker, I think he will put his price tag to shame.round about answer with lots of iffs!

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  24. Jar Jar Winks
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Negredo and Mirallas or Coutinho and Dzeko

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    1. Hamstergod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      1st is more nailed on 2nd can give you a load of points with those fixtures. I'd personally prefer second.

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    2. Mr. O'Connell
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mirallas and Dzeko

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  25. Jeremiah
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    What do you guys make of LLoris ? Have a current defence of : Koscienly - Coleman - Toure and tinkering around with GK's. Thoughts ?

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    1. Hamstergod
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      As a player he is good as for FPL their defense seems to always concede that one goal.

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  26. Hamstergod
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Is there any general thought on Schneiderlin as 5th mid? He did produce the odd goal here and there.

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    1. Mr. O'Connell
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I really like him as a player, but he's just 0.5 to expensive for that 5th mid position.

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  27. Pete Campbell
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    If Mirallas and Coutinho were the same price who would you go with?

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mirallas

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho...

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    3. Eboue
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Price dependent- if mirallas was 9 I'd get neither.

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    4. theBoose
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      coutinho, hands down. that's why he's more expensive this season.

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    5. Del Griffith
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho

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    6. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mirallas, I almost got him as a striker last season so that is saying a lot

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    7. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Still Mirallas (assuming both were 7.5, not 9).

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  28. Mr. O'Connell
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on 2 potential differential bench players: Mulumbu and Martin Olsson?

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  29. get_in
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Lost on the last article:

    A recurring theme in the RMTs I've seen lately is the lack of an escape route. While we all have a WC, most won't want to play it after GW1 (although I've seen the idea pop up a little more today).

    The way I see it, there are a few options:
    1. The aforementioned WC
    2. Straight swap - with 0 in the bank, you're talking about an early transfer which is risky.
    3. Swap + funds - allows a later transfer and a lot more flexibility
    4. Points hit - I think this is a poor option to plan so early in the season, but I've seen a lot of people who either admit to planning one, or whose team doesn't look like it gives them a choice.

    A lot of stock is being put in CHE defs like Cole/Ivan, but defenders are tricky to move around. You aren't going to want them for mun, so you'll either have to bench them (and a GW3 blank means you're delaying the inevitable and losing money), or transfer them to a city defender or the like. This is fine, but I think it misses out on an essential fact - there isn't going to be a Kompany bandwagon any time soon. Early season bandwagons you want to jump on are Mid/Def, and you really limit your options with a CHE def.

    I think the ideal situation, and one I'm planning for, is one CHE in mid and fwd plus some money in the bank. Hazard and Lukaku are the two prominent ones. This way, you have a get-out strategy - mine will be to keep 1.5 and jump on whatever bandwagon starts rolling. In the absence of a bandwagon, I'll do Lukaku -> Soldado or Hazard -> Cazorla. Having someone like Kompany in def (as someone pointed out in a solid post a while ago, but I've forgotten who - apologies) will net you approx the same points over the first 2 gameweeks with a kind outlook and no transfer headaches.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      If you have 3dgw players then you can swap two out before the blank. Even if you don't you can bench them, why do you need to WC or take hits?

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      1. get_in
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Because their GW2 fixture is terrible. You have to bench them and play your subs bench or play them against mun. In addition, they're going to be losing value when casuals realise there's a blank, so by holding onto them you're losing team value.

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    2. Del Griffith
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Same strategy as me, going for Haz and Lukaku only, no Chelski defenders as your right, not worth it unless you plan holding for the season. I've got 3.0 M in the bank for an RVP move GW 4

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    3. Manani
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Planning a point hit is mental. There will be bandwagons you missed etc. and a hit will turn to 8pts. Planning one transfer is enough, and I am expecting a hit in reality

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    4. Lightbody
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      However, Cech is widely regarded as one of, if not the only secure spots for the opening DGW - plus, the substitute keeper spot on the bench is relatively redundant in the sense it doesn't take one of the valuable three bench spots which are needed for DGW players.

      I have Cech and Boruc, who'll come in during GW3, leaving me 3 spots on the bench for cheapies and any Chelsea/Villa players left over from my opening squad - rather than the likes of Cole, Hazard and Benteke filling up the bench and forcing me to play three cheapies (Chester, Parr, etc - less than ideal)

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    5. Steve_2011
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      My plan is to have Ivanovic for GW1 then trade him in GW2 to one of the SOU defenders and it will be only transfer of the week. Happy to have my 2 attacking chelsea players in for united then trade out Lukaku in GW2 and bench Hazard.

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  30. Kukkuu
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    How to get Mirallas in instead of James Morrison? Now 0 m in the bank and the team looks like:

    Mignolet, Boruc
    Terry, Merte, Collins, Coleman, Brayford
    Walcott, Hazard, Silva, Morrison (J), Morrison (R)
    Lukaku, Soldado, Benteke

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Boruc ➡ 4.0

      Mertesacker ➡ M.Turner

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    2. theBoose
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      downgrade either benteke/lukaku (unless you are willing to take early hits)

      collins is also injured.

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