634x258 The Knee Jerk
23 November 2013 2700 comments
Mark Mark
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A pulsating Merseyside derby gives us plenty to mull over as both sides’ attacks rack up the points. Romelu Lukaku’s return to form, Philippe Coutinho’s first strike of the season and a potential toe injury for Leighton Baines come under analysis this evening:

The Game Changer

Sold on by over 100,000 Fantasy Premier League managers leading up to today’s derby clash, Romelu Lukaku delivered a stinging blow to those who had lost faith by bullying his way to a brace.

With just a single goal in his last four matches, patience with the Belgian was undeniably paper thin in a landscape that has seen the heavy-hitting forwards deliver consistently. It was ironic, then, that Lukaku should overshadow Luis Suarez, despite the Uruguayan again offering his own growing army of owners a goal and an assist.

The day belonged to Lukaku, however, who reaffirmed his status as a value proposition for our forward lines with a second double figure haul of the campaign. A record of seven goals in eight league appearances for the Toffees speaks for itself and, on a day that also saw Olivier Giroud break his recent drought, it underlined the merits of holding firm, even when form suggests that looking elsewhere should be a priority.

The Underused

Phillipe Coutinho’s first goal of the season arrived in a match where his influence was overshadowed by the likes of Suarez and Lukaku – this was a far more muted performance than his showing in the 4-0 win over Fulham in Gameweek 11.

However, it’s returns that count and with Coutinho getting off the mark for the campaign, there will now be those considering whether the classy Brazilian prospect can find a level of consistency that could possibly warrant the 8.5 FPL outlay. Currently he claims just 5% ownership.

Clearly Suarez is the most vital option in the Liverpool attack but, with fixtures in their favour and Daniel Sturridge owners switching out in their thousands, there could yet be a place for Coutinho in our seasons, with the Brazilian’s strike no doubt catching the eye of those Fantasy managers looking to double up on Rodgers’ flourishing attack.

Liverpool have now scored 19 league goals in their last seven outings; Coutinho’s presence can surely only help maintain that kind of form.

The Selection Poser

With Roberto Martinez announcing post-match that Leighton Baines will undergo an x-ray on a toe injury, the left-back’s Fantasy owners will be anxiously waiting on results, whilst perhaps pondering whether the time has come to shift out the Toffees man.

Should there be doubt over his availability for the Gameweek 13 Goodison clash with Stoke, Baines will then be set for an away double header at United and Arsenal – it seems certain that he will have to turn to attacking points to justify his 7.7 value in those two matches.

His price tag is undeniably a factor. Despite claiming over 27% ownership in the FPL, Baines sits at just 0.2 above his initial FPL valuation and therefore a trade out would not lead to a significant loss of funds, whilst offering a sure route back once Everton’s fixtures ease.

The news on Baines’ toe could have a significant impact on next week’s transfer trends.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. JT's Dog
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sunderland red card has just won the worst ref decision of the week award

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      1. super zlatan
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        Terrible decision.
        Never a red card.

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      2. Rafabio
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        Yup, ridiculous.

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      3. Sess!
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        *worst decision of year

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    • Colonel Wasabi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      El Conde....

      Any more thoughts on Hazard Oscar Ozil Walcott ?

      Glad to still have Oscar after today....think I'm going to maintain my watching brief of Ozil & Oscar....

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Ideally I'd like to keep ozil, but if cazorla or Wally find form and start regarly banging in the goals I will be quick to swap them with ozil and use the spare change elsewhere

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        1. Colonel Wasabi
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Sounds similar to me.
          I want doesn't always 'get' though 😉

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    • nadman89
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      no rvp does that mean Kagawa in the hole and januzaj on the left! or chich starting

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      1. r0nh
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        🙁

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      2. Rafabio
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        Goal.com = pinch of salt

        If it's true then Adnan left and Kags in the hole I think, but who knows how Moyes thinks.

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        1. Deulo10
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          12 years, 1 month ago

          But...think they're only dodgy when they're spreading like transfer rumors and such..not sure though.

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    • aehii
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      I know coutinho scored and walcott had a decent shot and looked sort of dangerous, but I'm not confident they'll repay my faith in them...

      And i just noticed hazard and oscar are in the top 3 midfielders on points, and wondered how did that happen ?

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    • r0nh
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      Goal.com are usually wrong?

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      1. Optimus.
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        Well they are not reliable but who knows

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      2. Alan The Llama
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        Their rumours are usually dodgy, not sure about team news.

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      3. Xavi Iniesta
        • 12 Years
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        I'm almost certain RVP will start. Tat sites like Goal.com are just trying to manufacture a story in the vain hope that they gain popularity, 1/10 they get this sort of rubbish correct

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        1. r0nh
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          I hope you are correct 🙁

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          1. Xavi Iniesta
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            You must be getting sick of these rumours, they never seem to go away lol.

            Take comfort from the fact that he has started most of these games.

            I'm a united fan, quite worried about tomorrow. Can see a low score draw 🙁

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        2. little_wizard123
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          Well it's a risky strategy as if it gains any popularity and it's wrong, their credibility goes.

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      4. A.T
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        That's my take on them.

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    • JT's Dog
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Any Newcastle fans on?
        Where is good place to drink before the game and get decent food near stadium?

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      • Deulo10
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        How to get Aguero in: 3.1 in the bank

        Boruc 4.0
        Coleman Williams Murner Clyne Baker
        Ozil Ramsey Oscar Barkley Ravel
        Rooney Eto'o Suarez

        Thinking Boruc ---> Mannone then I can afford Eto'o ---> Aguero. Any better ways to get him in?

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        1. tqrrfesk
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          12 years, 1 month ago

          Ozil-> coutinho eto`o -> aguero imo

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          1. Deulo10
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Thinking about doing that but with Walcott instead of Cout. Cheers

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        2. A.T
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          Ozil > Wally , eto > aguero (c)

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          1. Deulo10
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            That's exactly what I'm thinking of doing. But afraid Ozil will get amazing returns later and Walcott will still be coming back..

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        3. A.
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          Mannone is not a keeper you can play every week, he plays for Sunderland for gawd's sake

          Find the cash elsewhere.

          Barkley out? Ozil out? Coleman out?

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          1. Deulo10
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Haha I'm desperate 🙁 And Boruc has shit fixtures anyway. But I still don't like it...it's Sunderland..
            Prooobably Ozil --> Wally

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      • Feanor
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        12 years, 1 month ago

        Really happy with Giroux, Lukaku and Oscar finally coming good.

        And Remy returning dividends straight away.

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        1. Demí
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          12 years, 1 month ago

          You don't have Suarez, Aguero or Rooney/RVP? 😮

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          1. Feanor
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            I have Suarez in Sky, but I've been behind in getting in the expensive forwards in FPL this season.

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            1. Demí
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              Fair play. Nice that they all delivered at the same time.

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          1. JT's Dog
              12 years, 1 month ago

              You are a genius have a plus one

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              1. Colonel Wasabi
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Can you pick me 6 numbers please.....anywhere between 1 and 50.

                Go!

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                1. Feanor
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                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  If I was that smart I wouldn't have captained Remy over my other two strikers. 😉

                  Or be ranked around 700,000 for the season, lol.

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                  1. Colonel Wasabi
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 1 month ago

                    I'm afraid it's Optimus' prophecy that got me typing!

                    No offence of course - you have a fine forward line, sir.

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        2. Xavi Iniesta
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          12 years, 1 month ago

          Got a couple of questions guys....

          Anybody know how serious Shaw and Oscar's injuries are?

          I'm having rotten luck with injuries during game time this season 🙁

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          1. Optimus.
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            Shaws was hamstrung i think Oscar will be fine

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            1. Xavi Iniesta
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              12 years, 1 month ago

              That's what I'm hoping. I suppose it isn't the worst time in the world to get rid of a Soton defender.

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          2. Deulo10
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            Oscar is fine, completed the game. Shaw "will be assessed"

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            1. Xavi Iniesta
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              I think if Chelsea weren't cruising he would've came off. They were hoping he'd run it off, but I've got a feeling it's worse than a knock. Praying I'm wrong, I love Oscar

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              1. Deulo10
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Really hope you're wrong too 😉 And I think you should get rid of Shaw (doesn't have any good fixtures soon anyway).

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                1. Xavi Iniesta
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  Yeah true, it's just really depressing using your one FT on a defender. Really sucks 🙁

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                  1. Deulo10
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 1 month ago

                    Yepp :/ Been there every 2-3 GWs this season haha. So annoying.

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        3. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
          • 15 Years
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          I thought I'd seen some terrible refereeing decisions, but that Wes Brown red takes the goddamn cake. What is going on with refereeing lately?

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          1. Optimus.
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Breasts

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            1. Nomar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              What's breasts got to do with bad refereeing?

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          2. JT's Dog
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Agree, it's the slight arrogance with some refs in believing they can't be wrong that gets me also

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            • Obi Wan Elokobi
              • 14 Years
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              It's not just football the reffing is bad. Terrible boxing decision tonight as well should just get rid of all refs in all sports

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              1. Nomar
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Patriots got shafted on Monday Night Football in the NFL too.

                I see a pattern emerging.

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                1. Obi Wan Elokobi
                  • 14 Years
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                  Should watch the raiders get so many calls against them just because the way they play

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          3. Nomar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            Hard to know whose going down this season.

            I do think 2 of the newbies will probably go though. Hull need to beat the teams around them in the drop zone. Palace have now beaten Sunderland and Hull in potential six pointers.

            I reckon Sunderland will be one of the ones to go though.

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            1. Demí
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              Fulham one of them imo

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              1. Nomar
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Hope so.

                Be even sweeter if they go down in the same season we come back up. (assuming both events happen, of course)

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            2. TokyoRed 東京赤
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Still pretty sure Palace and Sunderland will go down. Fulham look a real risk at the moment.

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          4. Rafabio
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Swans defense looks shambolic

            Aguero (C) next week. Him being home sways it for me.

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            1. Optimus.
              • 14 Years
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              Always (c) Suarez

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              1. Rafabio
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                I had him since he was eligible to play so I haven't missed any of his hauls. I won't (C) him always (see Emirates). I think just having him and on the odd week, hoping that someone like Aguero (C) matches or outscores him can be a "differential". Of sorts.

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          5. ADucksBehind
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            Last week I would have said Fulham, Palace, Stoke, Cardiff, Norwich defences are the leakiest ones.
            This week they seemed to have tightened up, makes my job tougher

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          6. Thomass
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Who won froch or groves?

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            1. Xavi Iniesta
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Froch in round 9. Ref stopped it. Should not have been stopped, Groves was fine

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              1. Thomass
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Thanks mate, now that let's me go to bed.

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                1. Xavi Iniesta
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  No probs. night 🙂

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          7. Venom Snake
            • 12 Years
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            Who captained Suarez?

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            1. Optimus.
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              guilty

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              1. Xavi Iniesta
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Suarez owners who captained him, are you happy with his 9 points?

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                1. Colonel Wasabi
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  Yep.
                  Points in the bank.
                  It could always be worse....and could not have predicted Luke would have outscored him in the derby.

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                2. Optimus.
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                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  anything more than 6 points i am happy

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                3. A.
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  Yup, not expecting Aguero to get much more than that. Captaining Oscar was too much of a risk for me too, so i'm happy.

                  Wasn't expecting a huge captain score this week tbh

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          8. Elniñorules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Contemplating Rooney and Ozil > Lukaku and Oscar, to allow Barkley > Walcott upgrade in GW14

            Madness?

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            1. Elniñorules
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              12 years, 1 month ago

              Would be for a hit.

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            2. Declan
              • 15 Years
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              Im considering selling both, will see how Rooney plays tomorrow

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            3. Obi Wan Elokobi
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              How about Ozil to Walcott?

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              1. Elniñorules
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Isn't it too early to go Feoo?

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            4. Deulo10
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Why not just Ozil --> Wally?

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          9. berbatron
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            45 points with rooney(c) ridgewell and nasri to come.. mixed feelings

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          10. Thomass
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Night All…

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            1. Colonel Wasabi
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Night.

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          11. Optimus.
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            Now to go on Call of Duty and annoy my opponents in the lobby by telling them that i am the best at this game..They bite so easy it's hilarious

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            1. Colonel Wasabi
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Better to shoot than bite 😉

              Night all - off to kip.

              PS where are my lottery numbers.....(see above)

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          12. Xavi Iniesta
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            United fan here.

            I really hope Rooney blanks tomorrow.

            🙂

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            1. little_wizard123
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              Er. Ok.

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          13. berbatron
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            I've been warning people not to knee jerk Lukaku!!

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            1. Colonel Wasabi
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              And I thank you for your sage advice.... 😀

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            2. Get up ya bum
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              yeah he's a big dude!

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          14. Get up ya bum
            • 16 Years
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            Good week to rollover a tranny for me if I'm ok with injuries. Tough captaincy decision between Suarez (hul) and Aguero (SWA) though. Who you all going for?

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            1. berbatron
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              12 years, 1 month ago

              Aguero out of them 100%

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          15. Demí
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Time for the England comeback

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            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Has the second test started already? 😉

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              1. Demí
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                😀

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              2. TokyoRed 東京赤
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                12 years, 1 month ago

                Just woke up to find you administered a baps kicking while I was asleep - great score GW. Althought a hat-trick and brace of assists will see me through if Amaltifano blanks.

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                1. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
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                  If that happens I'll be simultaneously nauseous and overwhelmingly impressed!

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            2. Obi Wan Elokobi
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              Would be biggest comeback ever in Ashes wouldn't it

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            3. Parm
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Yep, c'mon Rain!!!

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          16. Spoonerism
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            FA Cup 2nd Round, big Lancashire Derby:

            Fleetwood vs Morecambe (AJ Aatish)

            Me - 55 points and Rooney to play
            Him - 47 points, Amalfitano and Aguero (cap) to play

            Ought to be close, but I'd say he has the advantage, no?

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            1. A.
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              I'd say you have the advantage, I expect Rooney to outscore Aguero, and if so then he needs 8 points from Amalfitano - so at least a goal

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          17. Optimus.
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            12 years, 1 month ago

            Later f%ckers chat ye in the morning 🙂

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            1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
              • 15 Years
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              Good, I am just getting on

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              1. Optimus.
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Before i go you did tell me to play Ward i chose Baker for the MNF 🙂 I did warn you against selling Lukaku 😉

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                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  One man's advice is another man's f*#k you 😛

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          18. Koflok
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Lukaku is my this year's Fellaini.

            He was on a 7-16-6 scoring streak when I didn't had him. I had Rooney who was doing decent but not quite as good (5-8-1).

            Then I bring him in replacing Rooney in GW 8. Rooney scored 33 points - half of his total score so far in 4 weeks. Lukaku only score 1 goal in that period and had disastrous underlying stats.

            So I bring Lukaku out to Remy for a hit. Lukaku managed to score 13 points - same amounts of points he score during the 4 weeks I had him.

            I mean, really?!

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            1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
              • 15 Years
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              I've sold Lukaku twice in recent history, one time he got a hatrick vs. United and the other a brace vs. Liverpool 😆

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              1. Koflok
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Lucky us 😀

                Hope your ballsy Benteke move pays off Pep

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          19. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
            • 15 Years
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            LOL @ Lukaku sellers 🙄

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            1. berbatron
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              🙂

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            2. Get up ya bum
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Bring back the downvote button!

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              1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
                • 15 Years
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                Welcome back, mate. Hope all is well.

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                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  Thanks mate. Sore and can't move much but apparently it all went well

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              2. Get up ya bum
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 1 month ago

                Ah you're in my boat. You've earned a commiseratory (not a word? should be) upvote

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                1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  😉

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                2. HVT
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 1 month ago

                  Hey Champ good to see you back !
                  Sorries I didn't do the obligatory email 😉

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                  1. Get up ya bum
                    • 16 Years
                    12 years, 1 month ago

                    Thanks mate. Ha na all good. I've too out of it to make sense of em anyway. Catching up on it all now

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            3. Venom Snake
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              If Rooney (c) pays off it would have all been worth it

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          20. TokyoRed 東京赤
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            So Ozil (c) would have taken the pen if he'd been on? Curses.

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            1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
              • 15 Years
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              😡

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            2. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              Would probably have swung our match, I've been shamefully lucky 😳

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          21. HVT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
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            How come Boruc wasn't awarded the assist ?

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            1. Dangerous Dave
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 1 month ago

              I loved his funky little dance.

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          22. Dangerous Dave
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Thinking Williams > Vlaar & Yaya to Lamps freeing up some for Remy > Aguero.

            Then I will have a set & forget front 3 of Roon, Suarez & Ag for the whole season.

            Thoughts?

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