Technical Area

The Technical Area- Ivanovic and Bosingwa Compared

Chelsea’s trip to Blackburn last week was the final straw for many Fantasy managers. Week after week, we’d endured the defensive failings of Jose Bosingwa in the hope that his attacking returns would prove dividend but a place on the bench at Ewood Park prompted plenty to jump ship.

With clean sheets a rarity almost right across the board, Bosingwa’s forward raids always offered hope. A goal, a couple of assists and 7 bonus points early on kick-started a bandwagon that added 0.8 to his 5.5 starting price but as the gameweeks passed, his returns diminished. No clean sheet since the season opener at Stoke, 10 points in his previous seven appearances, part of a back-four that were swept aside at home by a ruthless Arsenal performance- the wheels had fallen off in spectacular fashion.

Saturday’s game certainly suggests the Portuguese player is no longer a first-choice pick. It seems as if Andre Villas-Boas has come to the same conclusion as the likes of Carlo Ancelotti before him- Bosingwa, for all his attacking merits, weakens the Blues back-four considerably. Branislav Ivanovic moved from the centre to take over- the Serb excelled at right-back last season, producing 4 goals and 5 assists compared to Ashley Cole’s zero goals and 5 assists on the opposite flank.

The installation of Ivanovic at full-back proved an instant success- an assist, clean sheet and 2 bonus points returned 11 Fantasy points and more than doubled his points haul for the season. Bosingwa owners are now on red alert and with a two-week international break now upon on, he’s already slipped in price as the “Transfers Out” rack up.

We take a look at both players’ performances at right-back in the previous two games to ascertain the difference in their respective contributions:

Average Positions

A look at the Chelsea average positions from each game shows Bosingwa (17 above) pushed up slightly higher than Ashley Cole (3) on the opposite flank against Arsenal, with John Obi Mikel (12) in a deep position similar to the left-back’s. While Cole and John Terry (26) stayed close together on the left, the gap between Bosingwa and Ivanovic (2) at centre-half was far greater, with Bosingwa’s forward runs leaving Chelsea exposed all-too-often.

While the Blackburn game (below) shows Ivanovic (2) virtually as high up as Bosingwa was against Arsenal, everything is relative. Here, Mikel (12) is level with the Serb and is closer to Ramires (7) than he was against Arsenal. On the opposite flank, Cole (3) is pushed up far higher than the previous game, as is Frank Lampard (8), with Chelsea using the left flank to better effect this time round.

Passing

A comparison of each player’s passing in the respective games is perhaps surprising. Bosingwa made a total of 47 passes against the Gunners, while Ivanovic produced 63 at Blackburn but 17% of Bosingwa’s came in the defensive third compared to just 7% of Ivanovic’s- with the latter far more defensively secure, you’d perhaps expect it to be the other way around.

Going forward, too, there’s an unexpected outcome- 36% of Ivanovic’s distribution came in the final third, compared to just 21% of Bosingwa’s- as a result, he bettered the Portuguese star’s crosses (5 to 3) and produced double the number of goalscoring chances. Bosingwa’s tendency to drift inside is highlighted by 24% of his passes coming from a more central position, whereas Ivanovic’s greater positioning offers better balance and maintains the team’s shape- only 7% of his distribution was away from the flank, with 2% coming from a corner.

A look at each player’s “Preferred Passing” offers a perfect insight into their respective mind-sets. Against Arsenal, John Obi-Mikel linked up with Bosingwa the least of any of the Blues back-four; he received 7 passes and played 4 to the right-back whereas against Blackburn, Ivanovic interacted with Mikel more than any Chelsea defender, playing 11 passes and receiving 15.

Bosingwa’s attacking outlook saw him make only 1 less pass to Ramires, in the right midfield role, than he played to Mikel- Ivanovic, on the other hand, made just 4 passes to Ramires in comparison to his 11 to Mikel, a clear example of his more cautious approach.

Tackling

The best illustration of each player’s contribution to the Chelsea cause is shown by the number of and, critically, position on the pitch of each of their tackles in the respective games. The comparison highlights the flaws in Bosingwa’s game- he made 10 tackles against Arsenal but only 3 of them came in his own half. Ivanovic’s instant solidity on the right flank and reading of the game is summed up perfectly in the above diagram- he made 14 tackles, with only 3 in the opposition half.

Shots Conceded

Chelsea conceded 13 shots against Arsenal and 12 against Blackburn. Looking at the stats alone, it seems like there was little defensive improvement but closer examination as to where the shots arrived from, shows a substantial difference. At home to the Gunners, Villas-Boas’ side were ripped apart- 12 of those shots were inside the box, with just 1 outside their own penalty box. Away at Blackburn, only 4 of Rovers’ attempts were inside the box, with 8 of the host side’s efforts from distance in comparison.

Clearly, the step up in solidity was marked. Unfortunately for Bosingwa and his Fantasy owners, given the thorough and analytically sharp mind of Villas-Boas, it seems highly unlikely that this will have gone un-noticed.

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  1. applebonkers
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    NEW POST

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  2. howler
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    Please recommend transfers? I'd like to ditch Shawcross and Tiote before they drop...

    Vorm, Ruddy
    Taylor S, Taylor, Shorey, Tierney, Shawcross
    Silva, VDV, Mata, Eagles, Tiote
    Agbonlahor, Suarez, Van Persie

    Thanks!

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    1. futbolnotsoccer
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      Switch Shaw to Wilk or another nailed on Stoke defender (I'm afraid Wilk isn't nailed on anymore though...) and any money in the bank? Midfield looks awesome, but there isn't much for Tiote's price range. I upgraded Tiote to Sess a couple of weeks ago.

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      1. howler
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        Cheers. Yeah I was looking at Sess but it would require shuffling. Only 0.1 M in the bank.

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        1. futbolnotsoccer
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          In that case I'd say bench him...he'll be back and he's a BP machine. Your squad is solid minus the back line, but that's how I play it so I respect you.

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      2. tosey
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        what makes u think that about wilkinson?

        stoke forum still seem to think hes first choice RB

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        1. futbolnotsoccer
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          I'm just iffy about it because Wilk is the better RB...won't Stoke want to use him during Europa games rather than Huth? Don't want Wilk to be on my bench the weekend before Europa leauge...

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          1. futbolnotsoccer
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            And just saw Mark's comment to the same question below...Awesome. Cheers yesot, I can now rest easy on owning/recommending Wilkinson.

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    2. udit
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      Suarez-> Klasnic or Ba or Bendtner
      Tiote ->Sess/Drenthe/Larsson.

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      1. howler
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        cheers mate

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    3. PainInDiaz
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      Shawcross to wes brown and tiote to formica

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  3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    had to repost this

    http://youtu.be/H2DPeO9aKV4

    and now to read the post

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    1. Funkyav
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      brilliant

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  4. tosey
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    dont really see the relevance of this article as i doubt anyone would consider eithe rplayer at the moment until we know whos preferred starter

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    1. Funkyav
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      Its a good article i reckon, it tells me that Ivanovic is to stay at RB (hopefully). Ivanovic is a good pick because he can play CB also although I feel he is a lot strnger at RB

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      1. tosey
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        dont get me wrong its a great in-depth article from sir paulos, just not sure how it helps in FPL terms as surely anyone that reads this site would already be looking to shift bosingwa, especially after reading the tweet about the portugal boss' comments about him and i doubt theyd look to replace him with ivanovic

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    2. Gnu
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      You're giving the average fantasy football player far too much credit here Tosey!

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    3. futbolnotsoccer
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      It's an article analyzing the proficiencies and defending/attacking capabilities of each player so FF players can make a more informed gamble on which Chelsea defender to pick up if they so desire. Just like every op ed (with a little bit of analysis) article in the world Yesot, it's relevant to some but certainly not all. Don't assume no one cares, and if you don't you don't have to read it 😀 I found it interesting.

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      1. tosey
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        i didnt assume nobody cares i just posted my thoughts

        anyway we all know the only chelsea player worth having is lamps n he'll get forward regardless of who else is playing 😉

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        1. futbolnotsoccer
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          Cheers Yesot. To be honest I just got rid of Bos, but I'm sure Chelsea will tighten up a bit more and I think Iva will be a big part of that...so he's on my little watchlist. I'm more of a Mata man myself, I have this huge lump in my stomach that I'm going to regret getting rid of him...thinking he's going to come big soon. May do VDV>Mata and Ramsey to Bale in the near future...

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          1. tosey
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            i really wouldnt if i was you

            bale was renowned last season for a few little bursts of points followed by a number of 2 pointers

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            1. futbolnotsoccer
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              Good to know. This is my first year FF (I'm not sure how I've gone through 24 years of life without it) so I'm still getting the feel of things...I did break into the upper 14k overall before last week...Don't know how I dropped as I still score 60 pts...

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    4. applebonkers
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      of course it's relevant. bosingwa is still owned by a lot of people who may not be too keen to ditch if he'll be straight back in the side

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      1. tosey
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        as said above, surely anyone that reads this site would already be looking to shift bosingwa, especially after reading the tweet about the portugal boss’ comments about him

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  5. futbolnotsoccer
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    Mark tweeted a little bit ago that Titus Bramble is back on the squad and full training after FA forced Sunderland to end their suspension...so is Turner still as nailed on for SUN? I know they have a couple of injuries, so he is still vital to their back line yeah? Or should I stop being a cheapskate and go for Brown?

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    1. Mark
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      Brown looks to be a PPI darling so looks stronger. Bramble won't come back just yet so Turner still has legs.

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      1. futbolnotsoccer
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        Cheers, Mark. Brown is next priority on my list then, although I am going to check the watchlist to make sure...Btw Mark, your tweets are excellent, keep them up. I check them a lot more often than I do this site, so they're super helpful.

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
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          Brown looks like the way to got but have you considered Westwood? He's going to get a good runs of games here and pairs nicely with Krul.

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          1. futbolnotsoccer
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            Someone on here posted yesterday that Westwood was "surely third choice keeper" over at SUN, below Gordon...any truth to that, IT? Because if not I'd rather get rid of Ruddy and go for Westwood. Thoughts? Cheers btw

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            1. @ImpressiveTackl
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              No truth in it.

              Westwood has replaced Gordon in the pecking order although he's still behind Mignolet. Considering Mignolet is out for some time I'd say Westwood is a very viable option.

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              1. Funkyav
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                I can see Westwood keeping no 1 slot too if his form continues

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  6. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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    Watchlist looks like it's been updated ----------->

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
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      *does happy dance*

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  7. Conrad.
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    been holding on to Branislav for the whole season in my "no-clones" drafted league, so hopefully he gets consistent starts at RB now and I can finally reap some points from him.

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  8. Conrad.
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    A question to ManU fans: When will Smalling be back, and will he be first-choice RB over Rafael and P-Jones?

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    1. Demí
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      Swansea game may be too soon for him, but he should definitely be back for Newcastle at home. Personally i think Jones is 1st choice over Smalling at RB. Rafael may change this. Smalling ahead of Jones alongside Vidic at CB

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      1. futbolnotsoccer
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        New grav Demi?? Noice. When's Rafa coming back?

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    2. J.A.R.V.I.S
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      unfortunately there is no "first choice" RB at OT and I dont think there will be anytime soon ...when they're all fit it'll be pot luck unless one of them puts in some serious performances.

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      1. Conrad.
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        yeah thats what im afraid of...their depth at the back only allows Vidic and Evra to be lock-down starters.

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        1. J.A.R.V.I.S
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          and "the Gayer" in goal (per Marks - latest podcast) oops no there's Lindegaard for the Sunderland game to ruin the security of that option going forward...nuts to you SAF

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  9. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    Gents,

    I asked this earlier but there were lots of aussies on here so not sure what to take from that... This is not meant to offend all aussies btw

    Saurez > Bendy
    Given > Howard

    I already have Baines and am thinking of doubling up on Everton's defence. I also have had enough of Saurez and am willing to take a punt on Bendy purely on fixtures...

    good move or red arrows.

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    1. rohan
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      doubling up on everton's defence not a good idea imo... baines set piece threats have been considerably lessened with the arrival of drenthe... down baines... inject cash

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    2. Mark
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      Against better judgement, Bendy looks good for next four. Howard has the fixtures but Hibbert's an interesting option in the Everton back four if you're looking for cheaper coverage - less secure though.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        cheers Rohan / Mark.. I'm going to stick with the doubling up idea as it can't be worse than what has happened YTD with my defence... If it goes wrong I will keep Howard and ditch baines.. I can't get rid of him yet as have had him all year and have been stubbornly sticking with him... That wont last much linger if he doesn't pull his finger out... Interesting what you say about bendy, I've never rated him but for some reason have a feeling with the upcoming fixtures he will score well...

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          *longer

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  10. Milan
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    Great and useful article. Bye to Mr Bos so it seems. 🙂

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  11. jamsiep
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    Don't think it's a given that Bosingwa won't continue to be first choice.

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    1. Funkyav
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      lets hope that he is not. He is not completely to blame for chelseas defensive deficiencies this season but he is culpable along with Mikel more than any other defensive player.

      FWIW I also think our fwds need to press more if AVB is going to insist on us playing such a high line.

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      1. jamsiep
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        I agree fully on both points, but can't see anything changing soon RE the forwards pressing. None of Mata, Torres, Sturridge are particularly hard-working.

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        1. Funkyav
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          what would be your first choice chelsea XI

          Mine is

          Cech
          Iva Luiz Terry Cole
          Ramires Meireles
          Lampard
          Studge Mata
          Drogba

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          1. jamsiep
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            Cech
            Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole
            Meireles
            Ramires Lampard
            Sturridge/Anelka Torres Mata

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            1. Funkyav
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              pretty similar. great minds eh.

              I almost typed Torres and I was convinced he was going to come good before his red card but he was again awful against blackburn and Genk. I still think we should take the money and run if someone would buy him. Still gutted we never got Aguero who we were after for ages before Torres! Aguero and Drogba together would be immense!

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              1. jamsiep
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                Drogba isn't immense anymore.

                From what I saw from the Blackburn game, Torres didn't look too bad. Some nice touches and a couple of excellent passes, obviously the miss will overshadow all that, even though it wasn't that bad.

                Did you watch the match? Only saw the highlights, so you're probably in a better position to comment.

                Still prepared to keep the faith with him, but my patience with him (which seems to be longer than most) is beginning to run out.

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                1. Funkyav
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                  I still love drogba and we look a much better side with him in it and his defensive qualities are unrivalled. I agree he doesnt look as good this season but I wonder if thats because he hasnt had a run of games.
                  Only saw the highlights of the Blackburn game but watched genk game in full.

                  I want to like Torres but I just cant. Just the sight of him now gets me angry!

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  12. Gnu
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    Anybody like a bit of D.i.y keep-fit?
    @ 1.30 mins is my fave, the tug-toner 😉
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMs-4fUZd-k

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  13. J0E
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    Outstanding article Sir Paulos...will be keeping an eye on Bos's price to ensure I still make a profit from his early season skills.

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    1. Paul
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      Cheers Jonty. It's impossible to tell AVB's thinking but it's food for thought, anyways- the difference in both is pretty significant. Thanks for reading.

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  14. tosey
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    lot of talk on the stoke forum about sorenson getting his place back for league games. if it does happen hed be a must at 4.3m

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    1. jamsiep
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      Would surprise me if he does get his place back to be honest. Begovic is an excellent keeper.

      Before the Bolton game, had Begovic made any other notable errors?

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      1. tosey
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        reading this they reckon sunderland n arsenal he messed up too

        http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=178635

        nothing concrete yet but worth keeping an eye on

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        1. jamsiep
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          Actually, yes. He could have done much better for both of RVP's goals. Never seen the highlights from the Sunderland game though...

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    2. Demí
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      What do you make of Wilkinson getting subbed for Higginbotham the other day Yesot? Still think he's good to play atleast 2 out of every 3 games. Only just bought him, so a bit relucant to sell now, if he's a risk

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      1. Demí
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        *reluctant

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      2. tosey
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        yeh i think so, higginbotham is a left back so shouldnt affect wilko longterm. huth is his main/only competition n they reckon hes fell out with pulis n off in jan

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        1. jamsiep
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          Huth is absolutely dreadful at RB.

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          1. tosey
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            exactly so he should be ok unless pulis plays someone OOP

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        2. Demí
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          Cheers

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        3. Frazek
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          That's interesting info, I've been sweating over Wilko myself.

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          1. tosey
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            dont take it as gospel but im confident (going by their forum) that he'll play

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            1. Frazek
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              Perhaps I'll teat like one of the Nostic Gospels... banded by the Pope so few know they exist. 🙂

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            2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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              Tosey - just a heads-upon Lamps, I think he's walking the suspension tightrope - it's sagging badly in the middle.

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              1. tosey
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                yeh noticed that, hoping he gets a yellow against wolves so he misses the carling cup game against liverpool

                aslong as he doesnt get booked next weekend n miss wolves at home it isnt too bad

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                1. jamsiep
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                  If he has any sense about him, he'll get booked so that he misses the Wolves game, rather than the Liverpool one.

                  #cynic

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                    That must be how he managed his huge run of consecutive games under Ranieri and Mourinho.

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                  2. jamsiep
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                    He's a different animal these days though, and not in a good way. Can't always keep up with the intensity of the game in the middle of midfield, and is forced into making fouls.

                    applebonkers eluded to it after about two games of the season, and has been proven very much right so far.

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                  3. applebonkers
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                    if he gets booked in the wolves game he'd then miss the carling cup game. i wonder if he might either take his short off if he scores or do one of those straightforward shirt pulls and "accidently" get his 5th

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                  4. jamsiep
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                    What, in the Liverpool game next weekend? Surely he'd rather be suspended for the Wolves game in the league, than the Carling Cup game against the scousers?

                    Either way, hopefully we won't be seeing him taking off his shorts.

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                  5. 1966 was a great year for E…
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                    I remember AB's rant towards the end of last season at Lamps owners who 'got lucky' 😛

                    Always love it when usually nice, friendly posters have a good rant a la Attila at Jas 😀

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                  6. jamsiep
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                    Yeah, Attila's outburst at Jas was absolutely phenomenal.

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        4. Mark
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          Agreed. Wilkinson should have it cemented - Pulis started him on the left vs Bolton with Huth on the right. Eagles ripped Huth apart and Wilkinson was replaced by Higginbotham on the left.

          IMO, Wilkinson will start over Huth at RB with Higginbotham contesting left-back with Wilson when he's fit. Huth has gone from number one centre back to bench warmer it appears.

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      any update on shawx on this forum?

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  15. rohan
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    here's my squad... any recommendations besides the "get rid of ferguson and de laet"???

    vorm / krul

    woodgate simpson de laet warnock enrique

    nani silva vdv ferguson pilkington

    aguero rvp welbeck... 0.1 in the bank... really need some help here

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    1. J.A.R.V.I.S
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      why get rid of Ferguson?

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      1. rohan
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        will get rid of ferg some gw's later... as of now, what to do??

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    2. The Light Knight
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      get rid of ferg... oh wait nevermind

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      1. rohan
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        anything besides the ferg and de laet thingey?

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        1. The Light Knight
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          don't like warnock and welbeck who will probably miss out when young is fit

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    3. udit
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      Welbeck-> Bendy

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      1. theotherguy
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        +1

        Alternatively you could swap Aguero - Dzeko - that would give you about 3m in cash to upgrade Fergeson and your back line.

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  16. Optimus.
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    peter cech is evolving

    http://www.balls.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/0d3FI.jpg

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    1. applebonkers
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      lol

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      1. Gnu
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        😆

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  17. NotTooExpendable
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    Some much needed advice required:

    Current team:

    Given (Ruddy)

    Bos Enrique Wilkinson (Simpson) (Orr)

    Silva VDV Walters Allen (Moses)

    RvP Aguero Suarez

    The way that I see it the following need to go Given, Bos, Moses... and potentially Suarez.

    Over the next few game weeks what would people's thoughts be on the following:

    Given to Vorm
    Bos to Jones
    Moses to Ramsey

    Any advice greatly received!

    Thanks

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    1. JoeySamSam
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      3 perfect transfers you have there

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    2. udit
      • 13 Years
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      Hmm instead of Moses-> Ramsey why not do Moses->Drenthe or Sess.
      Fratboy wrote a great article on the earlier post about budget midfielders.

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  18. JoeySamSam
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Petrov and De Laet > Pilkington and Wilkinson decent transfers?

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    1. jamsiep
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yes, sir.

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      can't go wrong with pilky and wilky

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    3. jamsiep
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Is it for a hit? Wouldn't want to spend 4 points on 'pilky and wilky'.

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      1. JoeySamSam
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        No it's not

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  19. keith
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Trying to get best rotating cheap defence with reasonable clean sheet potential curent version:
    Vorm Krull
    Enrique Brown Simpson Wilkinson Taylor N
    Would be grateful for any constuctive criticism.

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Naylor, Wilko, Brown all match H/A. I'd look at Brown for QPR/Ful/Wol Def. Otherwise, I think you've got something there.

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      1. keith
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        But the 5 defenders have to be grouped 3 and 2 home and away, that would just switch the pairings over so no advantage.

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    2. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Maybe get Jagielka instead of Enrique?
      Depends on how much you bought Enrique at.

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      1. keith
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Got him from the start so reluctant to lose cash

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          You only lose cash if you sell then buy back. Don't buy him back, especially if you want a cheap Def. Could switch him Ferdinand (QPR) or Riise even.

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          1. udit
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Riise isn't cheap at all, QPR are decent at home so Ferdinand is worth a shout, although Everton have good fixtures around the horizon.

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            1. Frazek
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              Point I am attempting to make, is that switching Enrique for Jags gives you him, Naylor, Brown and Wilko all matching up H/A.

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              1. udit
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                Oh ok, didn't know that. Thanks.

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              2. keith
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 6 months ago

                But see my point above there will always be three home and two away no matter how they are matched up

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                1. udit
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 6 months ago

                  I just saw from the season ticker, Everton and swansea H/A rotate perfectly.
                  with a backline consisting of STO,SUN,EVE,SWA,NEW you could have atleast 3 at home for the next 6.
                  Go for it, but with Jagielka instead of Enrique.

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      2. PainInDiaz
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Enrique is a season keeper IMO. Every match he has chances of getting attacking points as a Bonus to add on to the CS chances.

        Not many Defender (Walker is one) around 5m offer that.

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    3. PainInDiaz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Pretty good for a cheap defence.

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  20. J.A.R.V.I.S
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Just before everyone ofloads BoSTINKwa does anyone know if Ivanovic is in the Serbia squad cos I think they are off to South America this week...

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    1. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      they are indeed. Mexico on Nov 11 and Hondurus Nov 14....with flight back 15 he should be back in good time for the next match, but you are right to bring it up. Could get injured, AVB could decide he's too tired. I'm certainly not getting Ivan in this week.

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      1. J.A.R.V.I.S
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        With BOS not playing for Portugal I think he's got a shout of playing myself (I'm not convinced he's on the scrapheap just yet). I know he didn't play the last game but doesnt mean much to me (I think quite a few people might have seen Andy Townsend explaining that he's Sh1t and should be out the door in Jan on Champs League highlights last week and have been convinced by the Blackburn ommission)

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  21. rohan
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    i cant believe i'm thinking of getting in nicklas bendtner

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    1. futbolnotsoccer
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      *shudder*

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      lol if i didnt know about this site i dont think i beremotely thinking about getting him either

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    3. jamsiep
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      One day he'll get the credit he deserves.

      I, for one, am looking forward to it.

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    4. J.A.R.V.I.S
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      SFC installing new Goalposts just for the Bender (and Sess)

      http://farm1.static.flickr.com/86/243112490_bb91ca40ae.jpg

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    5. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      he's got a massively unfair stigma attached to him. just because he might not be as good as he personally thinks he is doesn't mean he's not a good striker and can be a good value pick for FPL.
      he always gets 90mins, might be on penalties and as well as always having a decent record when he gets starts in the past he currently has got off to almost a goal or assist every game start at sunderland. finally he's only owned 1.2% of people. exploit the stigma

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      1. udit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        +1. He has also favorable fixtures in the near term.

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      2. udit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        +1. He has also good fixtures in the near term.

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        1. udit
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          oops.

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    6. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Well, he has Talent. 😉

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  22. JoeySamSam
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone else smart enough to have had Vorm from the very first week like me? When he was a mere 4.0m :/

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    1. Funkyav
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      oh yeah*

      *Have only played him once though!

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      1. J.A.R.V.I.S
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        SNAP!

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    2. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      No but I had Moreira and switched to Vorm while he was 4.0.

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    3. Nice1Cyrille
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      yep, and even smarter, i've had R Taylor since day 1 too. Enjoying his 27.5% rise in value...

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        sorry to break it to you mate but you had neither vorm or raylor in week 1

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  23. unoaime
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Was gonna do Given > Vorm but just realized he rotates horribly with Rudddy :

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      you could have shane ferguson rotating badly with vorm

      you see you will just be playing vorm week in week out

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Krul or Schwarzer are better options, unless you're willing to switch both GKs.

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  24. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    5 promotions in 7 seasons on fifa h2h.. Anyone here higher than division 5?

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    1. jamsiep
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      division 4 here.

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    2. Super Drenthe
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Division 5,1pt from 1 game to get promoted....but decided to go on MW3 Yeh Baby 😆

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      1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Bejaysus. You on ps3?

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        1. Super Drenthe
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Nah SeXbox

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    3. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      PS3 or Xbox?

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    4. Rts
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Division 3... The leap from 4 to 3 seems huge. I've only just scraped to remain in my division two seasons on the trot..

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  25. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Cheeky wee WCRMT

    Vorm Krul
    Simpson BAE Wilkinson McAuley Verminator
    Moses Drenthe Silva Brunt VDV
    Rooney Bendtner RVP

    0.0 in the bank so very little manuvourabilty. What you think out of 10 and what could I do to improve?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      would you not just get allen before his price rises further and moses drops?

      in a better team and swans fixtures not too bad after utd

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        All could be a rotation threat now that Augustine is back

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    2. tosey
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      id go lamps over rooney as u know

      alternatively downgrade the following

      brunt to johnson of norwich who rotates well with moses
      verm/bae to 2 cheapies that rotate

      and upgrade drenthe to lamps

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I'm still short if i do that. I rate lamps highly. Brunt on pens and more chance of a cleanie with BAE/Verm. I appreciate your advice mate but if lamps comes in it's in place of Silva. Rooney's there for united coverage.

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    3. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Have you pressed the wc button?

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I have yeah

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    4. PainInDiaz
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Like the look of Verminator there. Great differential.

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    5. rohan
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      8/10 for me... nothing much you can improve on over there besides keeping half an eye on verminator's physical condition every week... And are you convinced about rooney??? totally?

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      1. PainInDiaz
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        With Cleverly and Anderson back soon, Roo should go back to Strike.

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I am convinced of Rooney he'l be back up top soon, and with the opposition united have he'll get chances and is on pens and FKs

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    6. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      8/10,
      The only people I don't like are Moses and McAuley.

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    7. Super Drenthe
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Moses,Brunt and Krul out i'm afraid. Moses is CRAP,there are better options than Brunt and Krul has terrible fixtures.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Haha Moses is 4.7 and is showingthe right signs in a an attacking sense. Who would you go for over brunt? He's on set peices for WBA and has cracking fixtures

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    8. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      You've abandoned hope in Everton's defence then I see?

      Looks like a great team to me.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Not entirely. There may be another in there like metioned before. Lurkers force my hand unfortunately.

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    9. Mull
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Why don;t you switch Vermaelan and BAE to Kompany and Jones.

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Advantages for Verm and BAE though are:

        -Cheaper
        -Better attacking potential
        -two players nailed on, instead of 1

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Do you rate the team Demi

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          1. Demí
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Loks great Kol

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            1. Demí
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              *looks

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I dont feel entirely comfortable with Jones. I feel when united are at full strength he may be dropped

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  26. rohan
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    1st choice defenders for stoke after the reebok drubbing??? either of wilko or woody to start you reckon??anyone??

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  27. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Neymar's signed a new contract with Santos

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    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Great

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      1. Funkyav
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        not convinced by Neymar until I see him play in Europe in a top league.

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        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Agree. Still got loads of time on his side though

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        2. Super Drenthe
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Or World Cup

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  28. Super Drenthe
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone see any problems in my team except Ferguson.

    Vorm | Ruddy
    P.Jones | Enrique | Simpson | Tierney | N.Taylor
    Nani | VDV | Silva | Drenthe | Ferguson
    Rooney | RVP | Graham

    😆

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    1. udit
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Nope, looking good, perhaps, enrique-> Jagielka for the next few weeks?

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      1. Super Drenthe
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Hoping that Rooney starts up top next week when Young,Fletcher,Cleverley and Anderson return. Oh and £0.6m in the bank.

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        1. udit
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Then Tierney-> Brown.

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    2. J.A.R.V.I.S
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      slight concern over Nani rest for next week after 2 playoff matches (rather than friendly runouts), but, add RVP and VDV international injury curse and well....

      (but it looks great right now) heh heh heh

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  29. applebonkers
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    one thing to add about wilkinson, i'm fairly sure wilson can play rb too, he seems to be a very versatile defender/midfielder.

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Just as I was getting comfortable 🙁

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  30. samcro
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Sod Chico time, it's Bendtner time!!

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