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Scout Report – Steven Naismith

Everton announced their first foray into the summer transfer market yesterday with the capture of Steven Naismith from Rangers on a four-year contract. The 25-year-old arrives at Goodison Park on a free deal due to the financial collapse of the Glasgow club and is the second player acquired from Ibrox in the last six months, following the January transfer of Nikica Jelavic:

While Naismith’s natural position is in “the hole” as a second striker, his new manager revealed he views him as a versatile player who will afford the Toffees a variety of options within the preferred 4-5-1 system. With the likes of Royston Drenthe and Steven Pienaar returning to their parent clubs after both players’ loan deals ended, the need for more attacking arrivals at the Merseyside club is obvious, with Moyes going on to say:

We are delighted that Steven has agreed to join us. He will be an excellent addition to the players we already have and we look forward to him being fit and ready to play at the start of the season. He is an established international who can play in a number of positions. He has a flexibility we always like in our players and which will hopefully prove to be very useful for us.

The Statistics

As a 15-year-old, Naismith signed his first professional contract with Kilmarnock in 2002, though had to wait a couple of years before making his first-team debut. His time at the Ayrshire club was hugely successful from a personal point of view, with Naismith picking up the Scottish Football Writers’ Player of the Year Award and Scottish PFA Young Player of the Year Award in 2005 and 2006 respectively. Over the course of his spell at Rugby Park, Naismith made 102 appearances and netted 29 times before he was snapped up by Rangers for £1.9m just seconds before the closure of the 2007/08 transfer window.

Naismith’s time at the Ibrox outfit was somewhat plagued by injury, though. He suffered a cruciate knee ligament injury towards the end of his first campaign, forcing him to miss the vast majority of the following season. In total, he spent five years at Ibrox, playing 98 league games and returning a more than respectable 28 goals and 23 assists – a superb start to last term saw him grab nine goals and a couple of assists in 11 games before, once again, a cruciate ligament injury put paid to his campaign.

The Prospects

Everton’s fortunes for the season ahead could well depend on further acquisitions. Last term, the January arrival of Jelavic and Pienaar turned them into a far more threatening side going forward – Moyes’ team had scored 23 goals in the first 23 Gameweeks but this jumped to 27 goals in the final 15 games. Moyes confirmed earlier today he hopes to sign Pienaar on a permanent deal this summer; if this transpires, the Toffees attacking assets will look far more enticing and perhaps help them avoid the customary slow start which seems to plague the Merseysiders’ prospects on an annual basis.

Certainly, Naismith’s partnership with Jelavic at Rangers will work in his favour and is sure to boost his chances of tucking in just behind the Croatian in the 4-5-1. If Moyes is considering him for a role elsewhere, however, his appeal will be considerably lessened – given that he’s likely to be classified as a forward in the Fantasy games, this would see him as a reverse out of position prospect.

Jelavic’s price will likely be a factor as to how we view the new boy. The former cost just 6.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) upon his arrival last term but an average of 5.3 points per game suggests his cost is set for a hike – if he can stays within the confines of 8.0, there is no doubt he’ll be the one Everton player many will earmark for their squads. If Naismith comes in around the 5.5 mark he’s likely to be an overlooked differential and could prove decent value for those Fantasy managers scouring the market for a cut-price forward.

Further Reference

Steven Naismith Wikipedia
More Steven Naismith Stats
Steven Naismith 2011/12 goals

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742 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Aditya K
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    sup folks! How y'all been? Can't wait for the PL to set in.

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  2. ManofKent
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    • 13 Years
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    Morning all.

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      1. ManofKent
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        🙂

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    1. Dom Salahnke
      • 12 Years
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      Morning MoK.

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    2. Gaz Downright
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      gak

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    3. Willis.
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      Top o' da mornin' to ya!

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  3. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    By this time last season, we had signed cabeye, ba, and marveaux.

    To date this season we have signed......................
    Romain Alfitano

    I preferred it last season!

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    1. Churchill
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      Looks like Newcastle are turning into the Premiership version of Lyon.

      Your club have made some excellent purchases. *doffs cap*

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Hopefully we can follow them up by pushing through the deal for debuchy. He would be the last piece in the first team jig-saw for me. Then we would need to bulk out the squad with quality players who can challenge that first eleven (ie better than the likes of raylor, willo, obertan, best!!)

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        1. Churchill
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          11 years, 10 months ago

          Do you think Ba will stay?

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          1. China Mag
            • 13 Years
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            I think (hope) so. I think that he is happy where he is, and more importantly, i think any deal would be VERY complicated (expensive) due to his dody knee

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            1. Churchill
              • 14 Years
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              That same dodgy knee held up very well to the rigours of the Premiership!

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              1. China Mag
                • 13 Years
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                Yes. But the fact is any transfer needs to get insured. We got him on a free transfer, with wages heavily weighted towards appearances. if somebody wants to sign him for 7m+ and guarantee him 50+ grand a week for 3 years than that is a big risk for any insurer, as his medical test will show up the dodgy knee

                I think that reason that we aren't offering him a new contract, is that there is still the risk of his knee going at any time.

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        2. Manani
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          11 years, 10 months ago

          i thought best had gone to BBN?

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          1. China Mag
            • 13 Years
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            Yes. So we need to get in a replacement, who should be a higher level then best. Our only forward cover at the minute is shola ameobi!!

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        3. Coldplay
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Lyon Best has been snapped up by the Rovers.

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  4. ManofKent
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    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone any idea whether there will be a championship game this year? Can't see anything on the Texaco game's site for last season, but it's normally up and running before FPL.

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  5. China Mag
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    11 years, 10 months ago

    Was nobody interested in my potential betting tip above? 25-1 for Dave top scorer is massive IF senegal don't qualify for the african nations. To put it into perspective, the main players are 8-1, suarez is 14-1!!

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    1. Manani
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      where you get the odds?
      I mean which website?

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      1. China Mag
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        11 years, 10 months ago

        Paddy power

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        1. Manani
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          can't seem to find it?

          any guide pls?

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    2. ManofKent
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      Very decent odds

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I'm sure that the odds won't stay that high for very long if Ivory coast beat senegal in the qualifier!

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        1. Smurf
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          11 years, 10 months ago

          When will this game take place China?

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  6. Manani
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    so china, do u come from newcastle?

    just curious, if you know newcastle university is any good, want to find a uni where I can study food nutrition, and newcastle is one of the unis which offer the course

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    1. Churchill
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Plenty of live specimens to hone your (much needed) skills on in the north east.

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    2. China Mag
      • 13 Years
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      Newcastle is a good uni by reputation. Don't really know more than that as i didn't study there. Newcastle is a GREAT city to be a student in!

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      1. Dom Salahnke
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        11 years, 10 months ago

        Great city to be a student, eh? 😉

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      2. Smurf
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        Agree, if you like partying Newcastle is the place to be as a student.

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  7. Dom Salahnke
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    11 years, 10 months ago

    This dead zone is so very dead.. Yesterday was much more active than this.

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    1. Manani
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      china mag is already trying his best 😛

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  8. China Mag
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    11 years, 10 months ago

    Has anybody come up with a decent 3 way rotation yet? I'm still working through mine, but up to now FUL/STK/SUN looks pretty decent.

    NB I look at more than just home/away

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    1. China Mag
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      And STK/SWA/WBA

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        STK/SWA/SUN

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    2. Nomar
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      If the Sky fantasy game prices are anything to go by Swansea defenders will probably start in the £5m range now and Stoke's best defs in the £6m category.

      I am already thinking of Ian Harte as a must have cheap defender now.

      Moral of story-wait to see what prices are before determining what rotation you want. That way you will avoid disappointment.

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I'm guessing that there will be one cheap defender for swansea (monk) and one for stk (willkinson/wilson). I don't think that shawcross will be that much. He was only 5 (5.5m?) last season, and all of his stats were worse last season than the previous season. But you are right, you can't look at rotation properly without seeing the prices.

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        1. Nomar
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          • 14 Years
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          Just going by Sky prices.

          Not always accurate as different game platforms and budgets, but as a gauge it did shock me a bit to see Swansea defs over £5m.

          However, I think Swansea are going to struggle this season without Rogers, Siggy and Caulker so I get the feeling Swansea players will end up being overpriced and will underperform this time around.

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          1. China Mag
            • 13 Years
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            I agree with this.

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            1. Nomar
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              • 14 Years
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              Wouldn't surprise me to see Newcastle defenders all in £6m range, China.

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      Why do you look at away fixtures? 🙂

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I like at each fixture on its relative merits. Each fixture gets a score for the chances of a clean sheet. For example I would rather play a defender away at WBA, then home at city. But also I would rather play a newcastle defender at home against man utd, than a southampton defender away at sunderland. Does that make sense?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          As you lay it out - yes. But I think it is too deep. I just do home or away, easy to hard. 🙂

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          1. Christina.
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            +1

            Waayyy to deep.

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        2. Gimli son of Gloin
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          11 years, 10 months ago

          Sounds good imo. Much rather have a Stoke defender away to Sunderland than a WBA defender at home to City

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    4. King Nemanja
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Reading/Sunderland/West Brom

      Fulham/Sunderland/Wigan

      Norwich/West Ham/Reading or Stoke

      They are pretty up until the Jan Wildcard

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  9. Coldplay
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Spurs have signed United's youngster, Zeki Fryers, on a free transfer after he rejected a contract by United which did not meet his wage demands.
    Another youngster gone, so very unlike of United.

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    1. Manani
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      well, we have fabio, look at the bright side

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      1. Coldplay
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Who is currently away on loan. Just imagine if Evra gets injured and we don't sign Baines. We should have kept him. Spurs are giving him 20k a week. Surely, United could have afforded this.

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    2. Hank Scorpio
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Source?

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  10. Joey Barton and Friends
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    when does the FF league actually open?

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      No one knows for sure.

      Early estimates suggest towards the end of July, but bearing in mind that the season kicks off on 18 August then I imagine it would be around the middle of this month.

      Sky's fantasy game has already opened so the other games will start following fairly quickly now, I suspect.

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      1. Joey Barton and Friends
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        nice one mate, debts need to be paid!

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        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
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          Well, Joey B won't start paying his until November! Grrrr!

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          1. Joey Barton and Friends
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Zing. I dont believe he made my team last year but I should have got a prize just for the name

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  11. Nomar
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    11 years, 10 months ago

    Spurs have got Vertonghen then.

    Wonder how much he'll be in FPL.?

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    1. Allnatt
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      5.5m

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      1. Nomar
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        • 14 Years
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        Not sure he'll be that cheap, as I think that'll be price of Swansea defenders.

        Vertonghen is by nature a goaslscoring defender.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      ... and whether he will be a mid or a def?

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Should be a defender, Doosra.

        Takes evil free kicks too and deadly at corners. Even at £6m he'd be damn good value I reckon. I'd certainly be interested.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Better than Verm?

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          1. Nomar
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            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Not so injury prone.

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        2. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          he will be a defender. He is like Vermaelen, makes great surging runs up field, he also has great skills. I predict around 6m for him. I find him a better player than Vermaelen

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Thks Pomp

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              Cheers, guys! 🙂

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    3. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      Source for this?

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  12. Pinoche
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Dead..

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  13. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Mark - I made a joke yesterday that looking at yourself, Andy's and Granny's FPL id's from last season it seams you have some inside info on the launch date of Fpl... 😉

    Anything you feel to share?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      *need to share

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    2. Bubbles
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      They'll know roughly when it's going to open again, without a doubt (and not just the emails people on here have been getting about 2within two weeks"). They'll have a deadline of when they've got to write their bit about "The Scout". But they'll have been sworn to secrecy.

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      1. Bubbles
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        ...so you aint going to get a peep out of them Christina boy!

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      2. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        We get sent a long series of riddles and we have to work it out from that, Granville's in Rome digging up the floor of various renaissance basilicas for clues.

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        1. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Please, for the love of monkeys, don't sell the film rights to it. Tom Hanks playing Granville would be the end of cinema as we know it.

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          1. stilicho
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            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            🙂

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          2. Bubbles
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            I think that would be fantastic cinema. Just imagine it. Granny's digging away looking for clues, dramatic music, he turn to his computer. You think he's deciphering a code, but it turns out Moses has just scored. Heartbreak. The audience is in floods of tears. Oscars galore.

            I'd like some of the royalties for that scene. I'm pretty sure it will be remembered as a massive moment in cinematic history.

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          3. Gaz Downright
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            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            lol

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        2. Bubbles
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Now then. Have the Generals passed the information down to the Captains such as yourself. Hmmm...

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        3. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          ...let me guess...you are the one assigned to organize the dancing girls for the big party at FFS towers once 2012/13 kicks off...

          🙄

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    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      *It seems I'm coming apart at the seams.

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    4. Bubbles
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      But don't mind, 'Tina, Daniel was yesterday setting up a fantasy IAAF athletics league. That should keep you happy until FPL opens up.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Why not. Nothing like captaining a 120kg female shot putter with a moustache and bulging biceps in game week 1.

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      2. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Seriously? We need to organise an intervention.

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        1. Bubbles
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Yep. Absolutely ridiculous. I do enjoy his ramblings at this time of year.

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  14. QPR expects... glory!
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Nomar, you seen we've been linked to signing Ki Sung Jeung now? Did our scouts go on holiday to Glasgow or something? That's Wanyama and Ki both strongly linked now!

    Tony Fernandes said yesterday we'd made some people offers but with a deadline set to accept or not so we can get them in for pre-season. Seeing as that includes an Asian tour signing Ki makes sense from both a football and marketing sense...

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    1. Hank Scorpio
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      I read somewhere that Ki has actually said he wants to leave too - feels he has achieved what he wanted to with Celtic and now wants to move on to a new challenge.

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  15. gers23
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    guys ino this is probably a stupid question lol but im thinking about getting the membership this season but was a little worried about putting my bank details in.anyone had any problems before ?

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    1. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      don't worry about it, payments are handled by paypal even if you dont have an account. Probably safer than a lot of other internet transactions!

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      1. gers23
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        thanks alot m8

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        plus one

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    2. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Dont think so, have not seen anyone complaining bout that.

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    3. Willis.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      No need to worry. Just send me an email with your details and I'll handle everything for you.

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  16. DonTheSpecialOne
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    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Morning lads. Just read Sheva might return to the bridge?! I love silly season haha

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    1. Bubbles
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      You aint derailing the Fernandowagon that easily, Don.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        We'll see Bubbles 😛

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    2. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Not as a player, but as a coach for the youth team.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Didn't know that, thank!

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        1. DonTheSpecialOne
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          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          thanks*

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  17. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Any coventry fans out there? It looks like we are going to sign Bigirimana. Young central midfielder. Anybody know anything about him?

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    2. Real Socially Distant
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      Yea he's a good player I bought him on fifa 12 for H Berlin, that all I know

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        😆 I hope Graham Carr did more homework than that 😉

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        1. Real Socially Distant
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          No, he bought him on championship manager, ha ha. He is fast on fifa 12 tho!

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    3. Willis.
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      11 years, 10 months ago

      He's a young Essien.

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  18. BMox81
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    My little go on the Sky FF:

    Cech
    Lescott/Fabio/Harte
    Hazard/Kagawa/Siggy/Arteta/Britton
    Aguero/Torres

    What do we reckon?

    Mainly put Siggy, Arteta and Britton in there because of there passing attributes and you get extra points for that stuff. Lightweight in defence but heavy in attack.

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    1. stilicho
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Straight in there with Kagawa? Not tempted to start with Valencia until the dust settles?

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      1. roscola
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        +1 Can't see Kagawa getting 100% gametime straight off the bat. He'll be eased into the Premiership over the first month or so

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      2. BMox81
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Yep - think he will go straight into the team and do alright. Plus he's cheaper.

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    2. Willis.
      • 12 Years
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      17, imo.

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    3. Bubbles
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Don't you lose points for every goal conceded? If so I'd go for three solid defenders as Fabio and Harte could cost you a few points in the long run.

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    4. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      mine is

      cech
      kompany vidic cahill harte
      nolan siggy kagawa/hazzard tiote
      aguero torres/roo

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      1. BMox81
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Thought about Nolan, then remembered I don't like West Ham so then scrolled past him.

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        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          4.9 though for a mf who gets amongst the goals though

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      2. Willis.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        You can actually afford that team? 😯

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      3. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        *cech for mignolet

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  19. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    I might be a little late to the party but good write up by the artist formally known as Sir P.

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    1. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      You're one of the few who actually reads the articles these days I think!

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        hahah more full of the people tht dont, always a great insight and gives you a good idea of what to expect from a player.

        ALthough in saying that after I read each one I want them in team, the other day Gerrard was the first name on my team sheet 🙂

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      2. BMox81
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I read every article they put up - really informative stuff. Looking forward to this seasons offerings.

        Stilicho, if' you're still about, do you know if FFS will be taking more interest in the other games like Sky and Metro as examples?

        I know that the articles are geared towards FPL and that's cool - they will always take precedent, but it would be cool to see say a weekly article based on the "best of the rest" so people know what's going on in the other leagues.

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Oh absolutely, I read them avidly, I'm just going off the number of comments which actually relate to the articles - few and far between!

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        2. stilicho
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          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Hi Snid. I know that the main focus is going to remain on the FPL game, I understand that there will be some coverage of sorts of the other games, but I don't know to what degree. I'll forward this suggestion to Mark now and I'm seeing him tomorrow so I'll mention it then too, as you know this is his baby and he makes the strategic decisions.

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    2. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Yes good write up.

      I thought it was only bankers who were stripped of 'Sir' though...

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Businessmen in the steel industry should as well 😉

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  20. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Sigurdsson may not start first game

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Sauce?

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    2. Willis.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Of course he will.

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    3. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      are you just saying words?

      Do you have a link? Where is the reasoning behind this?

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      1. Willis.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        There is no reasoning. Training has only just started and pre-season friendlies are still weeks away. He's talking nonsense like he has been all day.

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    4. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      the sky game is more of a team for the season since you have quite a limited number of transfers available

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    5. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      X may not start first game

      (Insert player name for X)

      The above works for any player - noone knows the first day line ups yet!

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Shane Ferguson, I would like to insert Shane Ferguson in place of "x"

        ..... That doesnt sound too right .....

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      2. MADE IN CHARLTON
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        🙂

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  21. China Mag
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Greenwindmill (and anyone else). A couple of toon related points/ questions.
    i) Do you think we should be blocking dave from playing in the olympics, if he really wants to play?
    ii) No news is good news on the transfer out front I reckon. I'm starting to think that we might keep the team together, UNLESS a Carrollesque bid comes in.
    iii) I'm a bit worried that if we were going to sign debuchy, we would have done in by now.
    iv) Great news on the senegal v ivory coast play off. Who would you prefer to go through?
    v) If senegal don't go through (and we keep ba) I reckon we will scrap the idea of getting in an expensive striker. Maybe better off getting in a less well known one and spending the rest on strengthening the rest of the squad.

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Morning China, I saw your post on Dave being 25s for golden boot - I think I saw on twitter that you can get Ba at 50s. Think that could be a great little punt.

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      1. heco87
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Not a great punt if Senegal qualify for ACON though.

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        1. China Mag
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Did you see the news? Senegal have to play Ivory coast in a play off for the ACON!! Ivory coast would be favourites to go through.

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          1. heco87
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            Yep, saw that - good news for us

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      2. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        You would be relying on Dave getting injured (or sold!!), but yes, those are the kind of punts that I like!!

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        1. Scroobius Mac
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          I don't think its realistic to assume that their relative goal ratios will be the same as last year. Plus Ba has pens.

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    2. Willis.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      95% of your posts are Toon-related. 😛 A true Geordie.

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Ha. is that a less than subtle hint that I am on the wrong board? Sorry lads, but the toon is all I know!! And if you had all followed me in doubling up on barfa and dave when I was telling you over and over again that they were going to explode, you would have finished a lot better in the league than you did! 😉

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          I for one enjoy your toon related posts! I get a good insight into a team I don't follow that closely without having to go out of my way to scroll through NUFC forums

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          1. tw
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            +lots!

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    3. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      i) It's something to discuss with the player - don't prevent him from playing if he wants to though, we don't need to upset the apple cart. It could even be good pre-season for him, as long as he doesn't get injured.

      ii) I still expect Tiote / Ben Arfa & Demba to leave but we'll see what happens.

      iii) Debuchy talking to Lille this weekend, just got back from holiday. Expected to tell him he wants to leave and Lille are expected to let him. Should know if we're getting him by this time next week.

      iv) I agree - depends who we keep hold of as to what's the best outcome for us, but it's good news nonetheless 🙂

      v) I saw us linked with Guidetti today who I think would be a v good signing. Perhaps Jordan Rhodes might be worth a punt, although I'd imagine Lee Clark is looking at him for Brum.

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        i) Agreed

        ii)You still reckon all three will go? I reckon one max, unless we get massive bids for each of them!

        iii) How good will we look with debuchy and santon as fullbacks? I reckon santon will be huge this year

        iv) I guess if ivory coast go, we will only lose one player. Or does tiote count as 2?

        v) Don't know much about guidetti, but he sounds perfect for what we need. He would be 10th choice striker at city, but first change striker for us

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          ii) Ah, I meant that I think one of Ben Arfa / Tiote plus Demba, i.e. 2 will leave I think - but you never know.

          iii) Yeah, it could be awesome - if the back 4 is: Santon / Colo / Taylor (Douglas) / Debuchy then I can't remember a better defence we've had.

          iv) I've heard he counts as 2.

          v) Yeah exactly - 23 goals in Eredivisie last year - can he be much worse than De Jong? He'd be a lot cheaper ...

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        2. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          For me Guidetti is not ready for the premier league

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          1. China Mag
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 10 months ago

            You sound knowledgeable of the dutch league from previous posts. If we got guidetti he would be one the bench, but would have to start during the ACON (if senegal qualify), is he not ready for that? I have no idea.

            Also, what are your thoughts on our targets in holland? De jong, douglas, anita, pieters.

            I've heard that pieters and anita are poor.

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            1. pompeyfan
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 10 months ago

              Thanks, its the league I watch most of!

              He is very raw as a striker, powerful but can have problems tactically or with his temperament. Not sure that City want rid of him, i thought he might be going out on loan again?

              Douglas - I like him, was hoping Ajax would sign him. Very strong ball playing defender.
              De Jong - Decent target man striker, not sure how he would do in the PL, could go either way.
              Anita - Great player, one of my favourites, was a Lb or RB previously, where he was always dependable, but now has nailed down the DMC role at Ajax, was instrumental in helping win the title last season. Would be devasted for him to leave 🙁
              Pieters - Probably the best LB in NL, good player.

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              1. China Mag
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 10 months ago

                That's great, cheers. Now fingers crossed we snap up a couple of them!!

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    4. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Hey China

      i) If he really wants to play I'd like us to let him - I'd see it as good pre-season training (albeit not with his clubmates) and endears the club/manager to him further.

      ii) I agree, although there is obviously the danger of silly money being offered which we can't turn down (£25m from City for Coloccini for example)

      iii) I still think we're favourites, he wants to play for us and that puts us in a great position. Whoever forms our negotiation team these days seem to do a tremendous job, I'd back them to do it again.

      iv) Hadn't heard about that before you posted it this morning. As it stands I'd rather Ivory Coast went through - we can cope better with no Tiote than we could with no Ba or Cisse. If they could somehow knock each other out that would be ideal - maybe massive crowd disturbance resulting in both nations being banned? 😉

      v) We need further back up of some sort - I can only think of 3 recognised strikers at the club (unless you count Ranger 🙄 ) We need to reinforce and it needs to be somebody who is already able to perform at this level imo. I'd actually have been ok with us keeping Best as a backup option but can understand why he was allowed to leave, I'm hoping Carr can find us another gem I've never heard of!

      In conclusion - things are pretty rosy! 🙂

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      1. China Mag
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        I think there is no doubt we will be bringing in forward back up that is better than best. i would be amazed if we spunked that much on de jong though, unless Ba was leaving.

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          So if Ba leaves would you expect De Jong + a promising youngster/unknown? Surely that would have to be the case as otherwise we're still essentially a striker short of last year's squad?

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  22. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    Am i correct in saying that in December & January we areonly going to need to deal with just Chelsea in the Club Championships? Theres no ACON this season is there?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Acon is in South Africa. Only way we could qualify...

      19 Jan - 10 Feb 2013

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Ivory coast in same qualifying group as Senegal, so hopefully Cisse won't be affected.

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers mate.

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    2. heco87
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      ACON again - back to back to get it out of the same year as the world cup in future.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks for explaining why. I was sure that there was one lats year.

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    3. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      No there is ACON. But only one of Senegal and Ivory coast can qualify so will halve the problems.

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    4. China Mag
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      Wrong i'm afraid. They are playing the ACON again this year. BOO!

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Sounds like a con job to me1

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    5. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      There is another Acon due to them changing it to every odd year. chelsea only miss one game on the plus side

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        They may only miss one game but they'll likely need to travel halfway across the world and their players will be affected in some way, so i'll take a back seat from them.

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  23. Crouch Potato!
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    See QPR are ready to launch 8 mil bid for Ki Sung Yeung from Celtic, anybody know much about him? Good morning by the way.

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    1. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 10 months ago

      8m is far too much Ki. He's a 4m player. about 6 or 7 outta 10 in my opinion. Decent from set pieces and can spray a pass but nowhere near as consistant enough for th PL and especially not for 8m when you consider VDV & Siggi to be around that price.

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 10 months ago

        Sounds like it could be money better spent elsewhere then.

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 10 months ago

          Most definetly.

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  24. Bubbles
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 10 months ago

    New post boyos.

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