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Moneyball – Esteban Granero

This is very likely the first and last time a former Real Madrid player graces the pages of the Moneyball series. Esteban Granero made an astonishing 31 appearances in the league in 2009-10 for Los Blancos, more than Guti, Rafael van der Vaart, Kaka and even Cristiano Ronaldo. The arrivals of Sami Khedira and Mesut Ozil pushed Granero out of favour in future years, though he still managed to finish his time in Madrid with almost 100 appearances in three seasons before making his way to Loftus Road this season.

Despite that pedigree, his arrival in England barely registered on the transfer radar and he’s hardly captured the collective eye of Fantasy managers – Granero has just a 0.5% ownership in the Fantasy Premier League game, which has risen by just 10,000 or so transfers all year. Given that this is a Moneyball piece, though, we’re not going to settle on a player based on his CV: it’s when we delve into his statistics so far this term that Granero really catches the eye.

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Chris Glover Creator of the plfantasy blog, providing a stats focused approach to fantasy football. Exiled to Canada but still prefer my sports played on grass rather than ice.” Follow him on Twitter

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  1. In Tommy We Trust
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Anyone else see Sunderland doing a job on Fulham?

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      1. rasher
          3 years, 7 months ago

          nope

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          1. bobby_bookah
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Wouldn't put money on it

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          2. heartsattack
              3 years, 7 months ago

              No.

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            • cassanata
                3 years, 7 months ago

                I think there is a chance. When I look at the Fulham team i keep wondering how they are scoring so many. Their midfield is fairly average.

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              • Van The Man
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  I feel they might salvage a draw!
                  Especially if Berba's a bit off his game, FUL may struggle.

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                • roscola
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                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  Maybe the type of job where you get paid to be beaten to a pulp and say thank you.

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                  1. In Tommy We Trust
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      So MON has been speaking the Flintoff then?

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                      1. roscola
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                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        . 😀

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                    • 1966 was a great year for E…
                        3 years, 7 months ago

                        We talking about Rihanna again?

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                        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            😆 ...

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                          • roscola
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                            3 years, 7 months ago

                            ooooohh, dark!

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                            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                But fair...

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                            2. In Tommy We Trust
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                😆

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                          • In Tommy We Trust
                              3 years, 7 months ago

                              Hoping they don't so the casual has no reason to bring any of their players in

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                            • Scroobius Mac
                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                0-1.

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                              • Bedok
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                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                This isn't about a 'job' on someone. What do you think the score will be and who do you think will be in the goals?

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                                1. In Tommy We Trust
                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                    Sorry Bill.....

                                    0-1, Sess

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                                    1. cruzex
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        0-1 Adam Johnson 😉

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                                2. rasher
                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                    which 3 from 6?? rafael, ivanovich, baines, taylor, hanglaand, morrison

                                    currently have rafael, ivanovich and baines but they are playing away whilst the other 3 are playing at home!!!!!!!!!

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                                    1. viewoftheland
                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                        Play Baines, Ivanovic and Hangeland

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                                        1. rasher
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            hmm was thinking that, rafeal is good for goals and assists though..

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                                        2. RD84
                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                            Those three have a much greater chance of attacking points though. I think it's worth it unless you need that money elsewhere. That is a lot in defense...

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                                            1. RD84
                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                I will never give you advice again after seeing your rank 😛

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                                                1. rasher
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    haha cheers, yeah i really need to get 2 cheapies in defence

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                                              • Eddie
                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                  Raf, Ivanovich, Baines.

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                                                • bobby_bookah
                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                    tricky, as a Morrison owner id say squeeze him in but i may be biased first 3 seems the obv choice

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                                                    1. rasher
                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                        cheers, yeah thats my thinking to, worried morrision will do damage

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                                                    2. Hazmat
                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                        I'd leave out Ivan if any. As a Chelsea fan I'm expecting us to lose to WBA. They play like Mourinho's Chelsea and Mourinho's Chelsea > new Chelsea. But obviously he could still pick up attacking points.

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                                                        1. rasher
                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                            its his attacking potential that i have him in he has 3 league goals and a few assists..
                                                            hard to call the game tomorrow, west brom are flying

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                                                      • Pepin - RIP Absinthe
                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                          Granville, are you captaining RvP as well?

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                                                          1. 4vets
                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                              B!

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                                                            • Conrad.
                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                B all damn day!

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                                                                1. In Tommy We Trust
                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                    and night

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                                                                2. bobby_bookah
                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                    b

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                                                                  • cassanata
                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                      b

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                                                                    • Pepin - RIP Absinthe
                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                        B

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                                                                      • Scroobius Mac
                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                          a.

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                                                                        • Impressive Tackle
                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                            Who is that hooker in the first gif?

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                                                                            1. Giggs Boson
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                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                              Rihanna. I was just proving Martinunreal wrong that Jenna >>>>>>>> Rihanna 😀

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                                                                              1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                  WHA?!?

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                                                                                  1. Giggs Boson
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                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                    Sorry i was too slow to correct myself. I apologise, not sure why i said your name 😀

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                                                                                    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                        Because I remind you of a troll :(

                                                                                        I'll be in my room if you need me

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                                                                                        1. Giggs Boson
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                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                          Don't be in a girl. Here's the apology polar bear:
                                                                                          http://i.imgur.com/pj9fu.gif

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                                                                                          1. Giggs Boson
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                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                            *a girl, not in a girl 😆

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                                                                                            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                I'm in a girl right now...

                                                                                                Her name is Jenna

                                                                                                😯

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                                                                                    2. Giggs Boson
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                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                      *Ping Pong

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                                                                                • McDog
                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                    Jenna - and it's not even close.

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                                                                                • Conrad.
                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                    Agger fit?

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                                                                                    1. roscola
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                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                      Quite sexy tattoos, I guess

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                                                                                      1. 4vets
                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                          Not a fan, myself.

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                                                                                      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                          He's the stained glass window of football - made of ink and glass.

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                                                                                          1. roscola
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                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                            That's really very good

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                                                                                            1. Impressive Tackle
                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                +1

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                                                                                          2. In Tommy We Trust
                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                              I do like a bit of danish......

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                                                                                            • Conrad.
                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                damn u guys! 😆

                                                                                                will he be in the starting XI for the Liverpool football match this weekend? 😉

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                                                                                            • InJoneswetrust...
                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                Hey guys what do you think of this team

                                                                                                Jussi

                                                                                                Rafael , Hange , McCartney

                                                                                                Mata , Michu , Fellaini (VC), Santi

                                                                                                RVP (C) , Ba , Jelavic

                                                                                                bench: Bego Maloney Clyne Ridgewell

                                                                                                Cant really decide on what im going to do over the coming weeks so advice would be appreciated!

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                                                                                                1. bobby_bookah
                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                    decent side, maybe some city coverage? jelly could be changed with fell as eve coverage.

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                                                                                                    1. The Kraken
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                                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                      Santi for Silva (on the City coverage, I did that this week)
                                                                                                      For the following weeks I would try to get Hangs > Cuellar, think about Mignolet... something on the Sunderland direction.

                                                                                                      IMO Jelavic > Giroud considering that you have Fellaini but everyone hates Giroud's idea so don't follow that if you don't believe in magic...

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                                                                                                2. Van The Man
                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                    After such a good showing last week, any chances of Aguero starting this weekend??
                                                                                                    Ta. :

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                                                                                                    1. bobby_bookah
                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                        60% imo

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                                                                                                      • Butters
                                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                          I imagine they'll hold him for champions league considering he travelled with argentina this week

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                                                                                                          1. Van The Man
                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                              If thats the case, you think I should sell him for Suarez???

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                                                                                                        • viewoftheland
                                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                            Hmm, trying to decide whether Hazard to Silva is worth a hit. Never enjoyed having Hazard, purely got him defensively. Would be much happier with Silva in the side, not sure if its worth a -4 though.

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                                                                                                            1. 4vets
                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                Not for a hit.

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                                                                                                                1. bobby_bookah
                                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                    what he said

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                                                                                                                  • Butters
                                                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                      agreed

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                                                                                                                    • viewoftheland
                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                        Probably my thoughts. It's coming though. Soon Senor Silva, soon you will be mine.

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                                                                                                                  • davysteen
                                                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                      Thoughts on my 4point hit please..

                                                                                                                      Hazard and Tevez OUT
                                                                                                                      Silva and Suarez IN

                                                                                                                      Is this logical or too big a risk?

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                                                                                                                      1. La Roja
                                                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                          hell no

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                                                                                                                          1. davysteen
                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                              already have mata..

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                                                                                                                          2. heartsattack
                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                              It's dodgy. I'd maybe leave Tevez in.

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                                                                                                                            • Giggs Boson
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                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                              Hazard to Silva is fine, but i don't particularly like Tevez->Suarez at this time. I might be wrong though.

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                                                                                                                            • Doh Minnion(Land of Contusi…
                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                I like your choices. Don't think its worth 4 points though.

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                                                                                                                              • bobby_bookah
                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                  id just do one if i had to, prob keep Tev this week

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                                                                                                                                • shirtless
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                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                  Planning the same next week for a 4 pointer, or week after for free but only have 0.3m lee-way... :)

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                                                                                                                                • The Kraken
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                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                  I have to say I like it...

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                                                                                                                              • BRITPOPHOLIC
                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                  Play Shawcross (WHM) or McAuley (CHE) for this gameweek?

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                                                                                                                                  1. SnoopDogSmokesWeed
                                                                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                      Shawcross

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                                                                                                                                      1. BRITPOPHOLIC
                                                                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                          thanks :)

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                                                                                                                                    • bennydebull
                                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                        Surprising: Wigan are unbeaten against Liverpool in their last five matches. Hope they do similar again - a bit nervous with everyone bringing Suarez in...

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                                                                                                                                        1. Dude, Where's Micah
                                                                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                            Have you seen Wigan's away form and Liverpool's home form? Could be worth a punt on a draw or Wigan win IMO (and I'm a Liverpool supporter).

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                                                                                                                                          • In Tommy We Trust
                                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                              I'm nervous for them 😉

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                                                                                                                                          • Heiro
                                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                              Foster/Begovic
                                                                                                                                              Mcauley/Wilkinson/Baines/Turner/Gorks
                                                                                                                                              Bala/Cazorla/Michu/Pienar/Guthrie
                                                                                                                                              Suarez/RVP/Berb

                                                                                                                                              A: Mcauley --> Jones
                                                                                                                                              B: Mcauley --> Cueller
                                                                                                                                              C: Mcauley --> Cameron (double up on stoke def)
                                                                                                                                              D: Do nothing and pray for a cleanie vs chelsea

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                                                                                                                                              1. gers23
                                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                  D

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                                                                                                                                                • bobby_bookah
                                                                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                    e, play gorkss

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                                                                                                                                                    1. bobby_bookah
                                                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                        and wilko

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                                                                                                                                                  • gers23
                                                                                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                      Thoughts on my team this week? ok to save my transfer?

                                                                                                                                                      Begovic

                                                                                                                                                      Ivanovic/Nelson/Demel

                                                                                                                                                      Yaya/Bale/Mata/Fellaini

                                                                                                                                                      Rvp(c)/Ba/Berbatov(vc)

                                                                                                                                                      Mccarthy Sterling Ridgewell Cuellar

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                                                                                                                                                    • Kostja
                                                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                        Discoveries of the week: Karl Pilkington is the funniest man alive. Action Bronson is the best hip hop artists of the recent years, at least that I have heard of.

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                                                                                                                                                        1. Hazmat
                                                                                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                            You're a good man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2AHvZWojSc is the best video maybe ever.

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                                                                                                                                                            1. Kostja
                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                The videos are awesome, the first I saw was Brunch, I was in love 😀

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                                                                                                                                                            2. Quite Big Dunc
                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                Karl Pilkington - unique but good. Action Bronson - fairly derivative but also good.

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                                                                                                                                                              • Kno
                                                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                  Heard any Kendrick Lamar? If not check him out, that boy is good

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                                                                                                                                                              • Jönny
                                                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                  For those who were discussing Sunderland options earlier....

                                                                                                                                                                  http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/my-stats-tables/view/1233/

                                                                                                                                                                  Particularly that guy who reckoned Larsson is more defensive than Johnson 😉

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                                                                                                                                                                  1. 4vets
                                                                                                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                      Lovely start to the season, Jonny!

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                                                                                                                                                                      1. Jönny
                                                                                                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                          I don't like it, too much pressure! At the start of the season my target was to beat my best previous rank and finish top 5k... Now if I end up outside of the top 500 I'll be gutted!

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                                                                                                                                                                      2. In Tommy We Trust
                                                                                                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                          Larsson looks a sure bet for my transfer next week

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                                                                                                                                                                          1. Jönny
                                                                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                              Yeah I fancy that too, not sure how I'll work it exactly though...

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                                                                                                                                                                          2. Parm
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                                                                                                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                            Kudos for the name 😀

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                                                                                                                                                                            1. Jönny
                                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                Punderland 😉

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                                                                                                                                                                                1. cruzex
                                                                                                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                    Adam Johnson always 😉

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                                                                                                                                                                            2. SnoopDogSmokesWeed
                                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                To Play:

                                                                                                                                                                                Shawcross WHU (A) or Demel STK (H)

                                                                                                                                                                                (Begovic in goal)

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                                                                                                                                                                                1. bobby_bookah
                                                                                                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                    Demel, spread the risk

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                                                                                                                                                                                    1. bobby_bookah
                                                                                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                        and hope he doesn't come off after 20 mins

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                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Doh Minnion(Land of Contusi…
                                                                                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                        Demel may not start. Shawcross for me

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                                                                                                                                                                                    3. Conrad.
                                                                                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                        Bale, Santi, or Jelavic for the armband? I'm leaning Jela, as the other 2 have been inconsistent as of late...

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                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Doh Minnion(Land of Contusi…
                                                                                                                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                            Jelavic s your best bet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Conrad.
                                                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                thats what i figured.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            2. Dude, Where's Micah
                                                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                What has happened to your team since last week to make those 3 your options?

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                                                                                                                                                                                            3. RoysCallerAnne
                                                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                Move over to the new post.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Giggs Boson
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                  *article

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Gaz Downright
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                                                                                                                                                                                                3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                evening zoneers

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Doh Minnion(Land of Contusi…
                                                                                                                                                                                                  3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Which 3 out of these 5. Baines ,mc cauley, hughes ,S taylor and mc cartney.suggestions please

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Roonani
                                                                                                                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Is it worth doubling up on Everton mid's for this week only ?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can either do:

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Pienaar >Fellaini ( but that leaves me with only 0.1 in the bank) This way I have both Michu and Fellaini and if both get yellows this week, i would have to transfer one of them out ( defense is not good enough to play 4 in the back)
                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Michu > Fellaini and have both Pienaar and Fellaini for 2 weeks ( playing RDG and NOR)

                                                                                                                                                                                                    3. Save a sub and hope for Pienaar to outscore Fellaini

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Not sure what to do...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Gaz Downright
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                      All good alternatives imo. You just have to make your mind up.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Gaz Downright
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Snodgrass has registered 11 goal attempts his last 6 matches. None of these have hit the target. And I thought Taarabt was appalling!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • BBC_TF
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                                                                                                                                                                    3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I NEED YOUR VOTE!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Option 1: Cazorla -> Silva
                                                                                                                                                                                                    + Silva is finding form
                                                                                                                                                                                                    + Nice Differential
                                                                                                                                                                                                    + Caz is off the boil and travelled this week
                                                                                                                                                                                                    - Caz has good fixtures in two games until New Year

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Option 2: Bale -> Silva
                                                                                                                                                                                                    + Silva is finding form
                                                                                                                                                                                                    + Nice Differential
                                                                                                                                                                                                    + Bale is off the boil
                                                                                                                                                                                                    - Bale has two home games to come and is the most explosive MF big hitter

                                                                                                                                                                                                    3: Do Nothing

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Ich bin Klopp
                                                                                                                                                                                                        3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                        You got my vote!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Roonani
                                                                                                                                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I dont see Cazorla in your team. I would incline towards 3. I think both bale and cazorla will get points this week, plus you have Tevez to convert Silva's assists :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • ab9
                                                                                                                                                                                                          3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                          what does it say in the article?? granero worth it??

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Gaz Downright
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                                                                                                                                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                            It tells you that if you pay the membership fee you will know if he is "worth it".

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Grumpy Camel
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                                                                                                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                              +1

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • @FuzzyWarbles
                                                                                                                                                                                                            3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                            begovic

                                                                                                                                                                                                            baines, hughes, cuellar

                                                                                                                                                                                                            bale, santi, mata, pienaar

                                                                                                                                                                                                            rvp, ba, lambert

                                                                                                                                                                                                            (sterling, gorkss, demel)

                                                                                                                                                                                                            stay put? if so, right order?
                                                                                                                                                                                                            santi->silva?
                                                                                                                                                                                                            santi->valencia, free up cash for next week?
                                                                                                                                                                                                            other ideas?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          • damill1
                                                                                                                                                                                                              3 years, 7 months ago

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Begovic or jaaskelainen in goal?(both against each other)

                                                                                                                                                                                                              RVP or Suarez captain?

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