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Scout Report – Jesus Navas

Manchester City continued to add to their first-team squad yesterday with the acquisition of Jesus Navas from Sevilla. The 27-year-old, who is currently in the US with the Spain squad ahead of this month’s Confederation Cup, is City’s second big-money signing in the past week after Brazilian midfielder Fernandinho arrived at the Etihad from Shakhtar Donetsk:

With Manuel Pellegrini expected to be announced as the new City manager by tomorrow, City’s pre-season plans are beginning to pick up pace following the dismissal of Roberto Mancini towards the end of the previous campaign. In an interview with the club’s official website, Navas – who is believed to have been cost City a fee in the region of £15m – went on to say:

“Manchester City is an exciting project and this is the right moment for me to take this step. I’m very happy with the opportunity and the decision. The Premier League is a competition where the football is very fast and will suit the way I play. I’m really looking forward to it. I’m going to a great club in England and I want to continue developing my game there. The club has put a lot of faith in me and I want to repay them out on the pitch.”

The History

A product of the Sevilla Youth Academy, Navas joined his hometown club at the age of 15 and made his first-team debut three years later at the end of the 2003-04 season. Firmly established as a regular by 2005-06, the winger has spent a total of 10 campaigns at the La Liga outfit, starting 30 or more times in all but one of the previous five seasons, when injury curtailed his game time over 2009-10.

Navas arrives at City on the back of a less-than-prolific campaign. The winger failed to find the net at all last season and supplied just six assists as Sevilla finished ninth in the table but there’s no doubt his creativity from the flank has been crucial to his side in recent years. In three of the last five seasons, he’s provided 13 or more assists and overall, has chipped in with 24 goals and 62 assists over 276 La Liga appearances.

In terms of silverware, Navas won six major trophies over his time with Sevilla – two UEFA Cups, a UEFA Super Cup, two Spanish Cups and a Spanish Super Cup. He’s also represented his country on 23 occasions, producing two goals and six assists, and has helped his nation to the 2010 World Cup, with the European Championship following a couple of years later.

The Prospects

Navas’ arrival certainly looks likely to afford City an extra dimension on the flanks. While the likes of David Silva, Samir Nasri and James Milner were utilised out wide by Roberto Mancini, none of the trio possess the speed and directness of the new boy – with Fernandinho also bringing a more dynamic edge to central midfield, the former champions seem set for an evolution under the incoming Pellegrini, with a much-needed injection of pace throughout the team.

Both Silva and Nasri may possess the trickery but both had a tendency to move into the middle when on the ball, with City all-too-often lacking any real width. Opponents were able to nullify the danger by packing the middle of the park in Mancini’s final season as his side became a little too predictable in possession – having scored 93 times in their title-winning 2011/12, City found the net just 66 times last term.

Navas’ introduction is clearly part of a tactical plan to utilise the width more efficiently, creating space and stretching opponents’ backlines, which, from a Fantasy perspective, will hopefully be good news after the disappointment of the previous campaign. In terms of Navas as an individual prospect, however, he’ll find it difficult to persuade us to initially invest, given that Silva, Yaya Toure and potentially Nasri will also be vying for our attentions in the City midfield.

Furthermore, his price isn’t likely to be cheap across the Fantasy games, with a cost of 8.5 to 9.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) anticipated. With Gareth Bale, Theo Walcott, Juan Mata and Eden Hazard all offering explosive potential in the premium bracket, it seems, in all likelihood, there will be better value to be found for our five man midfields as we look to balance budgets.

Ironically, the introduction of Navas and a more expansive style of play could, in turn, bring Sergio Aguero back onto our Fantasy radars. Having started 2012/13 costing 11.5 in FPL, the Argentine could conceivably drop to 10.5 or 11.0, potentially making him a viable option once again for those unwilling to fork out the expected 13.5 for Robin Van Persie. If he can overcome the serious bouts of homesickness that have blighted his international career, Navas has the potential to be a major player for City next term, though whether he can persuade Fantasy managers he’s worthy of a place looks another matter altogether.

Further Reference

Jesus Navas Wikipedia

Jesus Navas TransferMarkt Page

Jesus Navas Interview

Jesus Navas You Tube

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  1. Fifa las vegas
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    United want 8.5mill for Nani. Where do you think he'll go though (assuming he does go). Would love to some him in another PL club(other than City/Chelsea.) 🙂

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      Don't want him to go.

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  2. Fifa las vegas
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    Gala 😳

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      ?

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    2. Christina.
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      10 years, 11 months ago

      ...tasaray

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  3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    wow I had a comment marked for review... what's that all about..?

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      10 years, 11 months ago

      haven't posted much... is this normal for anyone that isn't Willis...

      p.s. Willis don't give up mate... I think you're alright

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
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      10 years, 11 months ago

      Did you use a naughty word?

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        10 years, 11 months ago

        moi?

        I can't recall.. perhaps but unlikely... I normally would just misspell

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          You might have P i s s pelled

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            😀

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    3. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      It will have contained something marked by the system as potential spam.

      Multiple links? Multiple symbols all together (i.e. several dashes in a row)?

      Something like that.

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    4. Mark
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      10 years, 11 months ago

      It got trapped by a blacklist filter. An error..I'm checking now. I've approved the comment.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        wasn't that great a comment... but thanks 🙂

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    5. The Light Knight
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      Have you played Portal 2? 😉

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        10 years, 11 months ago

        I have no idea what that is? Am guessing it's a computer game..

        Now I feel old...

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        1. The Light Knight
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          Hehe, sorry bout that. I knew the second I hit "post comment" I was making an unfair reference. It is a game btw so you clearly ain't THAT old since you can at least make logical guesses 😉

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            I used to love games.. Just don't have the time these days and don't get a look at the xbox with my missus and eldest.. The last game I played was fight night round 2 and that was about 10 years ago...

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            1. The Light Knight
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              10 years, 11 months ago

              Ah well, some things are more important than games, however if you ever do get the chance, Portal 1 and 2 are fantastic ways to get back in to gaming even if that mightn't be till the kids are packed off to uni 😛

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              1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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                thanks LK.. will bear it in mind

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  4. Christina.
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    10 years, 11 months ago

    Dutch coach on tonight's game vs Spain...

    "The players that haven't played are eager and willing. We are one team and all the players are selected because of their quality. I've already decided on my team.
    We are not a nursery where all the players can have a turn. We are a professional side who have 23 players in the squad and the best players will play."

    😕

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      10 years, 11 months ago

      Thank heavens for Mr Stalin aka the Dutch coach

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      1. Christina.
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        10 years, 11 months ago

        I don't know what to make of this...the guy is clearly on Pot.

        lol

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          10 years, 11 months ago

          I think it means that my John will play.

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          1. Christina.
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            10 years, 11 months ago

            How's your team going?

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            1. Ginkapo FPL
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              10 years, 11 months ago

              25pts so far and hopefully 6 more players today. Wierdly I am doing very very well in the u21's

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              1. Christina.
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                10 years, 11 months ago

                Wow, good score. Rank?

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                1. Ginkapo FPL
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                  10 years, 11 months ago

                  45 this week
                  116th overall

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                  1. Berbagod
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                    10 years, 11 months ago

                    Very nice Gink, very nice

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                  2. Christina.
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                    10 years, 11 months ago

                    well done monkey

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          2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            10 years, 11 months ago

            He's not yours... he's mine 😉

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      "We are not a nursery."

      Sounds like he won't be cleaning their shit up after them or letting them have afternoon naps.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        ...or breastfeeding them.

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      10 years, 11 months ago

      Think about the managers faces as individual reactions when asked the question. The ex premiership Managers are quite in character.

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    2. Hubert
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Harsh 😆

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    3. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      😆

      That is brilliant. The Jose one is a gem. RDM's is funny too. And Lippi is nonchalant with his point.

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  5. U21 captain decision
    Mak_Gold
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Who are you people captaining today? I have Thiago, Tello, John, Holtby, Dzagoev and Maher, but don't know who to give the armband to. 😐

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Demi will let us know. I hope.

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        1. Christina.
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          10 years, 11 months ago

          Isco/Dzagoev/de Jong/Holtby are my only options.

          Thks for nothing Destro.

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          1. Pinatta
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            10 years, 11 months ago

            think de Jong will get a 'rest', Hoesen might play.

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            1. Christina.
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              10 years, 11 months ago

              Damn.

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      2. Berbagod
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        10 years, 11 months ago

        Whoever that starts really lol. Hopefully no one 😉

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      3. Ginkapo FPL
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        10 years, 11 months ago

        Holtby for me, over Dzagoev, John, Morata and the spanish defence

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          10 years, 11 months ago

          Oh wait I have Chabolah so will stick, how depressingly dull 🙁

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      4. SuperOsçarBaby
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        10 years, 11 months ago

        You have the same players as me 😯 except for Koke instead of Thiago.

        I'm think Holtby is the best option.

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      5. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Could be a disaster for players being rested. Just waiting for the lineups.

        Dzagoev or Holtby I reckon.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          +1

          I took a gamble/hit and used my last 9.5m to buy Dza last night, knowing well he might be rested and needs to be replaced for the semi's.

          *vomits

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          1. Sess!
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            • 13 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Same....surely he'll play?! The alternative was zaha so no love lost there.

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              I dunno. Look what happened last night.

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              1. Sess!
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                • 13 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                True, was an absolute nightmare. I boldy plumped on england finally turning up and that went down the pan!

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 11 months ago

                  0-0 for eng would have been nice since i got in steele. hedenstad hitting the post and then conceding also hurt.

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      6. iCon
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Will very much depend on the teams, but Holtby is a strong contender for me...

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      7. Sess!
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Dzgoev for me I think, although Holtby looks good too.

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      8. teddy.
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I'm going for Holtby. 2 reasons: he's playing Russia, and I'm not going to call the Spain-Netherlands game. I have Spanish defenders and Dutch attack so I'm covered either way.

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      9. gurka
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I am leaning towards Holtby although I feel rodrigo could get off the mark

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    • Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Proud moment coming up this afternoon. (I hope)

      My eldest son (6) is trying out for his first football team squad... He plays every Friday and last week he was selected for a try out which will be in an hour's time.. Needless to say I have been practicing every night this week thus far with him...

      Looks like I might be able to skive off as well as things aren't that busy 🙂

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      1. Al Pacino
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Tell him he's disowned if he doesn't get in 😉

        Good luck to the lad!

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          10 years, 11 months ago

          he will be gutted if he doesn't make it...

          He's a tough little blighter and doesn't give up... just needs to stop yapping and ordering people about.. ( a little )

          Thanks

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          1. Christina.
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            10 years, 11 months ago

            Is the heat not bad for the little ones?

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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              10 years, 11 months ago

              They have gone indoors the last two weeks.. during winter when the weather is late 20's they play outside...

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              1. Christina.
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                10 years, 11 months ago

                Ahh...

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          2. Mark
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            • 17 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            I'm getting David Batty vibes? Am I warm or doing him a disservice 😉

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      2. Christina.
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        10 years, 11 months ago

        nice, let us know how it goes. Attended my 6yr old girl's concert on Monday eve. Special moments.

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          10 years, 11 months ago

          nice.. you're a big softy really 😀

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      3. The Light Knight
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Best of luck with it
        Be sure to let us know if he looks a prospect. The Fantasy U-8s game is kicking off soon 😉

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          😆

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      4. roscola
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Nice one mate, best of luck. If he makes it all the way and you need an agent to loaf about and skim off his salary, I hope you'll consider your old partner

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          10 years, 11 months ago

          cheers Ross... Don't get your hopes up.. 1 in a million chance of getting anywhere...

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      5. iCon
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Pride is a fantastic emotion! Enjoy it 😀

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          thanks Icon

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        2. In Like Flynn.
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          10 years, 11 months ago

          But a poor master.

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      6. RoysCallerAnne
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Best of luck to him! My eldest is six too and showing no interest in footy yet 🙁

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          cheers..

          A mate of his is playing for arsenal boys over here.... he's the real talented one... class little player.. has a chance of making it

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        2. Mark
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          • 17 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I fear this. I keep telling myself that this surely won't be the case. Already he throws a ball and shouts "goal!" but I need a plan of action to ramp things up. Is he too young for Subbuteo? 😉

          Obviously, the PC approach is to say "my son can be into what he wants - as long as he's happy". I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be disappointed if we don't get to go to the footy together though. Feel guilty about it.

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          1. GreenWindmill
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            You wouldn't be a parent if you didn't want to live vicariously through him 😉

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          2. RoysCallerAnne
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Well my lad loves, and I mean LOVES dresses and make-up and shoes etc, etc, etc.

            Try being politically correct when that's going on 😯 My younger two are both girls as well, so I'm hoping for some machismo to emerge soon!

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            1. GreenWindmill
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              I initially misread that as "Well my dad..." 😆

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              1. RoysCallerAnne
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                10 years, 11 months ago

                Him too...:shock: 😉

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      7. Lateriser 12
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Good luck to your son 😀

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      8. Mark
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        • 17 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I can't wait for that kind of moment with Billy. I really don't want him to grow up because I'm loving where he's at but, reading that, I envy you and can't wait for those moments. My only fear - I'd probably well up and show him up in front of his mates 😉

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        1. GreenWindmill
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          You never know, he might play for Derby some day 😉

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          1. Mark
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            • 17 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Hehe...you know what, I've always struggled with that rivaly. I know that any Forest fan reading this will be furious at such a response but, truly, when I was a season ticket holder, I struggled to pipe up for "We hate Derby" chants. We always seemed to roll them out when the team was playing badly, when there was little to sing about. At those times, I was more concerned about my team to sing about Derby and a hatred that's forced upon me. Rivalries are a stange thing - the best ones are engrained and undeniable - I've never really felt that for Forest and Derby. Surely only me, though.

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            1. GreenWindmill
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              You're too mellow Mark!

              I'm pretty fiercely passionate in my hatred for Sunderland, but only really within the confines of the football stadium. I always want them to lose/be unsuccessful but not to the extent that they no longer become genuine rivals.

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              1. heco87
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                I also wouldn't want them to have the glory of surviving on the last day of the season. Last season was pretty much ideal for how I want Sunderland to perform. Less so for us ..

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                1. GreenWindmill
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                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 11 months ago

                  Haha, true. The one redeeming feature of last season was that Sunderland somehow managed to sneak below us in the league!

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      9. In Like Flynn.
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I hope he enjoys the experience. There is always another day, if not today.

        But I wish him success, Old School.

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    • FatmanAndRobin
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Do people think Navas will have a big impact in City??
      How do we think City's front 6 will shape up as..

      Toure Fernandinho
      Navas Silva Nasri
      Aguero

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    • SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Le Havre midfielder El-Hadji Ba has signed for Sunderland on a three-year deal. (Source: L'Equipe)

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      1. Sess!
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Hmm, interesting. We're hoovering them up. Anyone know anything about him?

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    • RoysCallerAnne
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      One week to fixtures and an avalanche of rotation spreadsheets. I'm going down a different route this year and avoiding rotation.
      Obviously it's very useful for a pair of cheap GKs but how many seasons have you picked the perfect treble 4m def rotation or two pairs of 4.5 rotators only for it all to go tits up within the first six GWs due to an injury or, more likely, one of your cheapies ending up as a non-starter?

      And when it does happen, who in their right mind actually swaps a cheap defender for another from the same team to maintain the carefully planned rotation?
      For example, when Gorkks or Gunter emerged as pine gatherers who swapped them out for Pearce or Mariappa? Very few, that's who. Wilson or Demel were jumped on instead and BOOM the rotation is out the window already.

      I've been feeling this way for a couple of seasons and I'm going to act on it this year.

      Sure, rotation for 2 cheap GKs is still a perfectly legitimate tactic.

      But whether I decide to get 3 (or 4) uber-cheap defenders at the start, I won't worry about whether they rotate well home and away. I'll be picking them purely on their strength of fixtures over, say, the first 10 GWs of the season.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I gave you the upvote BTW... 😉

        To add to your post - no reason to not double up on cheap keeper + cheap def from the same team. I did it last year with turner+rudd and krul+simpson the year before. Especially if the def has a bit of a goal threat.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Forgot about that! I'm a fan of that too. I had double Fulham/ double stoke the season before last and it worked luverly for a while

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah, i'm going to do my utmost to listen to my gut this season. I often come on here and say things, convince people to do things only for me to chicken out. Eg Nolan gw 38... 😳 ...or the double up on Stoke(Wilson+Bego) in Dec when they only conceded 2 goals in 6 fix.

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            1. gurka
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              I would of loved a Nolan gw 38 tip quality player

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        2. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          My mate had triple Newcastle at the back season before last and racked the points in

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah I rotated Vorm+caulker and Krul+Simpson.

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      2. roscola
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Interesting approach, Roy. I'm not sure yet what, if any, rotation strategy I'll use. As you say, my rotation went out of the window quite quickly last year.

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      3. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I'm thinking about chucking out the fixture book completely and try to avoid looking at it all preseason. How many times do the CS's come in unlikely matches? May as well be forced to play your ubers in some "tough" fixtures as they are equally likely to produce the points anyway.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Look at Sun/Ars 0-0 in gw 1 last season. Most of us had our Sun def on the bench.

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Precisely, everytime I investigate the strength of fixtures against fpl points I find nothing to suggest that there is any relationship whatsoever. The freak results are more frequent than we like to remember.

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      4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Never really been one for rotation for Defenders.... Just plan 3 - 4 weeks ahead..

        Saying that with GK's I do like to try and pick a couple that go well.. not necessarily home and away though

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      5. heco87
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Well said, I couldn't agree more... and I'm hoping to go in with Cech & a cheapie as I'm sick of being duped by playing the "wrong" GK.

        People become obsessed with trying to pick a perfect team which, realistically isn't attainable because there are too many unknowns.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers Heco. And yeah Cech and a cheapie could be very useful this season now The Happy One is back.

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          1. heco87
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah.. will of course depend on prices and fixtures but this is what I'm thinking at the moment.

            By February, nobody was interested in rotation and as long as you have defenders who are playing, things will be fine. Demel keeps clean sheets away from home, Turner scores at Arsenal etc.. it's when your players aren't playing that you have a problem.

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Will be interesting to see who the Chelsea dgw will be. We should be able to figure that out right?

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              1. heco87
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                Aye, should be easy as long as it takes the same course as last year.

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        2. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I'm thinking Cheapie and a non-player for similiar reasons.

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          1. heco87
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah, could easily pay off too - Begovic / Jaaskeleinen & a £4.0m would have been fruitful last season.

            I say all this now, watch me end up with Vorm & Marshall ..

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Yeah, that combo is being talked up already.

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              1. heco87
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                Swansea 2-1 West Ham - Fulham 0-0 Cardiff first day of the season. Vorm 2, Marshall 8 on the bench ... standard.

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      6. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Interesting approach but its all about putting the odds in your favor, playing the numbers.

        If there is a good rotation out there, i see no issue in going for it. If you are getting 3 uber defenders and now i'm thinking between Defender A and Defender B, i'll inevitably pick one that will rotate.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          You're still playing the numbers by going for a strong set of fixtures for your cheapie (say, 6 nice fixtures in the first 10) instead of a home/ away rotation where some of the home matches are against a top-4 side, for instance.

          All hypothetical atm!

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      7. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Strength of fixtures is as valid a way to pick your players as H/A rotation imo RCA.

        This year, I shall mainly be playing a mix and match of the two styles.
        This way I have four ways for it to go tits up. 😉

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          😆

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    • Count of Monte Hristo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      The England players now have Eliminated next to their names. I think Humiliated is more appropriate.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        At least they qualified in the first place.....

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        1. Count of Monte Hristo
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          That's not really much to shout about. Not much point getting there if you do nothing with the opportunity.

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            You could have at least argued that at least Scotland lost out in the group stages to the dutch....

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            1. Count of Monte Hristo
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              ?

              Another team is not the topic of my argument. I am commenting on a bad performance from a team that should have done alot better. Not a single goal in open play and only the second team in the tournament to finish without a point.

              And your comment above only serves to defeat your own argument.

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              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                Yeah I was hoping that Scotland failed horrifically in qualifying, but the truth is you didnt unfortunately.

                To be fair a large part of our fail is not down to the individual players but the management who decided we should go to the tournament without our best players. How can we possibly get better as a nation if our best players arent given every opportunity to compete at their own level rather than being out of depth at the top level straight away.

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                1. Count of Monte Hristo
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 11 months ago

                  The first sentence just sounds childish and petty.

                  They don't need their strongest team to be able perform better than what this side have shown. The squad breezed through qualification looked like they couldn't even compete at this level.

                  The likes of Bardi, Bianchetti, Caldirola hardly jump out as being head and shoulders above Butland, Clyne, Caulker.

                  They had players that could have performed alot better and they never.

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                  1. Ginkapo FPL
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 11 months ago

                    The first sentence was childish and petty. 😀

                    I know but put Jones, Welbeck et al. in the team and suddenly the pressure is off the rest of the players and Jones etc can cope with the pressure as they are sued to it by now.

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                    1. Count of Monte Hristo
                      • 11 Years
                      10 years, 11 months ago

                      They would have done better with the big players coming back but it also defeats the purpose of the tournament. You are supposed to have an accomplished side coming through the ranks.

                      Insigne has 1 cap for the seniors. Verratti has 3 and the (c) Caldirola has none.

                      If you bring back Jones, Walker, AOC, Welbeck it's not a true 21 side and you are masking your young side with a bunch of senior players.

                      England need to start again and produce players who are much more comfortable and competent on the ball throughout the side and across the board rather than relying on a few rare talents such as Rooney then Wilshere to come through and make it appear they are producing the best quality players.

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                      1. Count of Monte Hristo
                        • 11 Years
                        10 years, 11 months ago

                        They are the exception to the rule and the rule needs to be changed.

                        Oh and -rep for being childish and petty 😉

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        2. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          This shows the injustice of seeding for football imo.

          Seeding is based on past performance and is used to try and ensure the biggest teams contest tournaments. The only logical reason not to give every team an equal chance is tv revenue but surely sporting integrity should be more important than increasing the supply of money in the game thereby increasing the difference between the top and bottom teams?

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      2. Sess!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Embarrassment more like.

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    • Will - Fantasy Football Hub
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I have to say that this comment system is looking mighty impressive! One of the best I have seen on any forum.. Well done FFS!

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Classy Grav

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      2. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        One of the best I have seen

        Well done!

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      3. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        not for me

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        1. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          How come?

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      4. SPorting
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        This will now be my standard reply for all RMT's:

        I have to say that this team is looking mighty impressive! One of the best I have seen on any forum.. Well done you!

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        1. The3rdTurd
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I think we need a sarcasm emoticon.

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          1. SPorting
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            You can use my grav if you like.

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            1. The3rdTurd
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Thanks. Henceforth my sarcasm response will be as follows:

              http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/0346982f50e6f32a31d088ecc394a083

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        2. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Haha yes - does seem a might impressive response!

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    • Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      The most intriguing fixture next week will be who Chelsea have as their GW3 fixture (to be moved as their double) if it's a top team eg City Utd, there will be masses using their wildcard GW3.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Will Chelsea have a game in GW3 or a bye?

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        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Both teams to have a blank

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            If Chelsea have a good GW4 fixture, why would many use their WC?

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            1. Tommytour
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Say they have Utd as their double most will have 6 players missing that week

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              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                You'll probably need 105 to have 6 from them. I see your point though. 3 trades = 3 left on bench.

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        2. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          blank i think.

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      2. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I'm more interested who the chelski dgw is. I'm hoping it's one of the promoted sides(Read last year).

        Come to papa P. Mcshane.

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        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          That's what I mean, whoever they get drawn Gw3 will be moved to GW1

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    • pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Very hypothetical question here. If Norwich buy Ola Toivonen and he is listed as a 6m midfielder, with RvW listed at say 6.5m as a striker, which would you prefer to buy if any?

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      1. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Snoddy?

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      2. CRUSHER
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Ricky won't get suspended as much.

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        1. pompeyfan
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          true, but it's swings and roundabouts because he probably also won't score that much!

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      3. heco87
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Tough question .. Norwich perhaps shaping up to be a greater attacking threat next season though

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    • Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Anyone ever been to Lyon or Ronchamps? Do you know what parking is like for tourists?

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      1. SPorting
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        No. But I have chatted with Kings Of Lyon and RonH.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          That makes you an expert then. So what is parking like?

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      2. Willis.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        No, but I've been to Paris and Montpellier.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Ditching the car as soon as we get to Paris, otherwise that would have been helpful

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          1. Willis.
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Road trip with girlfriend or the lads?

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            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Its an odd one, mix of genders from my course. They are the peeps living in London next year doing a random tour of Le Corbusier's work. I am only going along as they are my closest sort of mates next year so should probs take the opportunity to get to know them better.

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    • SPorting
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      So how many of you have now deleted or given up on your U21 teams?

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        not yet.. 178 overall rank

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      2. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Screw gave up, i didn't give in to U-21

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    • SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Russia U21 vs Germany U21: Preview by WhoScored -

      http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/679593/Preview

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    • Will - Fantasy Football Hub
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      What would you rather have at the start of a season:

      A) A 25 point head start
      B) An extra 2 mil in the bank (fantasy mil that is!) or
      C) An extra wildcard

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        A

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      2. The3rdTurd
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Well let's say a good score is 2,200 points for the season. Divide that by your £100m budget and you get a target points per £m of 22.

        Therefore an additional £2m should be earning you 44 points before you consider the points head start.

        Having said that, I'd take the wildcard.

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      3. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        C

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      4. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        B I reckon. 25 points is trivial - the extra £ gives you a lot of freedom from the outset.

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      5. Tommytour
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        A or C

        Probably A as you could take a 12 point hit as a mini wildcard and still be up

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      6. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Interesting mix of answers.. I would probably go with B myself as that 2 mil could make a big different over the course of a season

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    • HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks to all who replied to my Homecrowd opinion on page 1 ,
      I found some of the posts refreshing to say the least , clearly others are aware of the changes also and greeting Homecrowd apprehensively but openly , and others think the whole approach will be a massive success and a better experience for members/regulars/visitors.
      In the overall a lot of very honest answers to a genuine shall we say "opinion" , thanks
      So im just wondering why I didn't get a sticky for it 😉

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        But you did
        oh wait..

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      2. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Did it change your mind?

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        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          The glass is still half full for me , I think things will loosen out a little ,
          Don't get me wrong the fundamental here has to be a soccer forum - that is the teams main goal and objective within the Scout,
          and I get that but I just hope and this is my concern that Homecrowd doesn't dilute the character that posts his/hers opinions on here but as i said previous that is just my opinion.
          I did note that Mark felt the site had gone off the rails so obviously this is the teams response to it - That is their job and they have very successfully created an unparalleled success for themselves in reaching their objectives so by that they are entitled to make changes as they see fit - they've earned that right and no one on here can argue that the community isn't consulted/involved in any changes. Hopefully it won't be a case of "music for the masses"

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      3. The Light Knight
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        You brown nosing little blighter 👿 😉

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      4. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        just responded

        and I think yours did get stickied

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        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks to all , and indeed I did get a retrospective sticky , I'm humbled.

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    • Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Poll on talksport yesterday who would you rather at Utd Rooney or Lewandowski?

      Personally don't think we need Lewandowski as a Rooney replacement should he leave, would mean Van Persie dropping deeper and Kagawa moved out to the wing again. Rooney is still class but has attitude problems, why keep a player who has now twice asked for a transfer request? I vote for neither haha.

      Surprised Arsenal or Chelsea aren't going for Lew, it seems Cavani is holding out for Madrid and with him being in his last year of his contract he can be bought for a cut price fee.

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    • Al Pacino
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      OptaJoe ‏@OptaJoe 4m
      15 - Robin van Persie, Gareth Bale & Luis Suarez all scored more goals from open play than Stoke (15) did in the PL last season. Approach.

      Hahahaha, that's a quality stat

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        So did Michu.

        😎

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        1. r0nh
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          From open play though...

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        2. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Err...

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      2. The Light Knight
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        http://experimental361.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/attacking-effectiveness-top-5-final.png
        Fewest shots per game of 5 top European leagues *shakes head

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        1. Al Pacino
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          A PL team needs to sign whoever scores for Hannover it seems, that conversion rate is immense

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          1. The Light Knight
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Mame Diouf (ex Utd) was doing well there earlier this season- I always liked him too at OT

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            1. Al Pacino
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              A straight swap, Diouf for Rooney ;).

              But good to see him doing well elsewhere, he was at United at a time when Rooney was on fire, Berbatov had joined like a season before, and Hernandez joined a season after. Wasn't gonna get a breakthrough there 🙁

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        2. Manani
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          couldn't find united, can you?

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          1. Manani
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            oh never mind, didn't scroll down 😆

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            1. The Light Knight
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              🙂
              http://experimental361.com/2013/06/02/attacking-defensive-effectiveness-201213-top-5-european-divisions/
              This is the original article in case you missed it. Someone had posted it on here a couple of days back

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              1. Manani
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                thought it was from chris glover 😆

                cheers

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        3. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          That is a quality graph.

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    • heco87
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Free to read for next 40 mins, seen quite a few FM based applications before but...:

      http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3788547.ece?shareToken=accf922c214d665b4519b9d35299c461

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      1. The Light Knight
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        *quickly boots up FM and waits to meet extremely insane billionaire football club owner

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        1. heco87
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Ha yeah.. all about who you know isn't it.

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      2. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Then, of course, there is the pressure, of the media, of the fans, of the absence of the option to reset the computer and try again after a particularly disappointing defeat.

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    • /
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Does anyone remember when the GW1 DGW was announced last year?

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        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Damnit! Now I have to delete my own post!

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          1. heco87
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Will teach you to stop spamming 😉

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            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Grr!

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          2. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            🙂

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        2. /
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks

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      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I think we were anticipating it around now, but it might not have been confirmed until after the fixtures were announced.

        Looking at the dates they're very similar to last year:

        "The 2013/14 Premier League season will kick off on Saturday 17 August 2013".
        http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/fans/faqs/when-does-2013-14-season-start.html

        "The venue for the 2013 UEFA Super Cup has already been announced as Eden Stadium, Prague on 30 August 2013."
        http://www.uefa.com/uefa/aboutuefa/organisation/executivecommittee/news/newsid=1836837.html

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    • Manani
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      once ahead, goal.com is ahead of the game.

      they reported about Galastray failed on a bid on nani for 6m a few days ago.

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    • mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      So who do we think will top group B tonight?

      Spain or Netherlands

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I think it will be Spain.

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        1. mikess
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          struggling going forward i think

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        2. mikess
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          So if Netherland finish in 2nd, who do we prefer out of Italy and Netherlands?

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          1. SuperOsçarBaby
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            tough one, maybe Italy - Spain Final.

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    • applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      will jon walters be a regular under mark hughes do we think? if there was one player that seemed a manager pick in recent years it was walters with pulis, 90mins every week regardless of how he was playing it seemed. scores 2 OGs and misses a penalty v chelsea and not only stays on for the full match but starts the next game as usual. can see why he starts/started at stoke but his nailed-on-ness relative to his team mates seemed beyond a joke for a player of his quality.
      the main player i was thinking about it affecting was charlie adam. a marginalised walters could open up penalties and a role in the hole for adam.

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      1. The3rdTurd
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Shhh, he was going to be my secret weapon!

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      2. King Nil Miss ✩
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Looking for the old Charlie?

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        1. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          definitely, even wondering if holloway will try and get him

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      3. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        that stat about goals in open play triggered this thought, walters for me embodies this and whilst mark hughes seems quite old-school and one to appreciate walters' work-ethic he must also appreciate at times he shares a first touch with camel

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      4. The Light Knight
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Dont think Adam is cut out for the Premier League. His technique is very good, but any system which uses him looks like a flop waiting to happen at this level

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      5. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I couldn't bring myself to have him last year and I see no reason I'm going to change this.

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    • Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Passed it. 😉

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      1. The Light Knight
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Well done mate...... and now for the main event 😉 😆

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          😳

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      2. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Admittance test for Guantanamo?

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          😆

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        2. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Of course! 😀

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      3. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Now you can travel in style 😎

        http://gifs.gifbin.com/122009/1260795401_pig-rider.gif

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Nice. 😎

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      4. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Well done CS. Confident now?

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          A small bit. Don't want to get carried away though - it's fairly easy.

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    • Manani
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      why did WBA released Gera?

      I thought he is quite good!

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      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Me too, Manani. So I found this.

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/bsp/hi/football/statistics/players/g/gera_208114.stm

        Age, plenty of cover or specific new player to replace him?

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        1. Manani
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          didn't know he was that old 😯

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          1. In Like Flynn.
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Nor me, so I'm guessing with his contract up, they thought it best to let him go at no cost, rather than risk further injuries.

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    • Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      *Long detailed post looking for upvotes and for someone to sticky it up*

      http://i.imgur.com/KHTGsDI.gif

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    • tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Which teams do you guys think will exceed people's expectations this upcoming season? and which teams do you think will underachieve?

      personally I think if Spurs sign one or two quality strikers and keep bale they could finish top 2 or 3 much to everyone's surprise.

      I also think that Newcastle could be on for a good season. not as good as last year but definitely better than this year

      on the flip side I can see Swansea underachieving after this year. Europa will have it's toll on them and I can't see Michu being nearly as prolific as he was this year

      I also feel that Everton may under perform... dunno why but it's just a feeling

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      1. Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Norwich will overachieve, Southampton will underachieve imo.

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          any reason you think that or just a feeling?

          I could see that though. I could also see West Brom underachieving, especially if they don't get Lukaku on loan again

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          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Norwich were really looking good offensively and defensively toward the end, and RVW could be the final piece. Southampton rely on an aging Lambert and I feel despite having a strong team may get overtaken by clubs improving this summer. Just a hunch.

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        2. Mark
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          • 17 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Blimey...I'd go the other way round on that. Then again, my pre-season predictions are never great: I tipped Swansea for bottom three.

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      2. roscola
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Villa ought to do better this time out. They didn't seem to deserve the hammerings they got

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      3. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        underachieve- Man U, West Brom,
        surprise team- Aston Villa, Sunderland, Hull

        Swansea will never underachieving. They play great football!

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      4. Al Pacino
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Teams to do better in the upcoming season:

        Newcastle
        Liverpool
        Villa
        Sunderland

        Teams to do worse:

        Everton
        Stoke
        Arsenal (Not gonna finish in the top 4, you heard it here first 😉 )
        Norwich
        WBA

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          what makes you think Norwich will do worse this year?

          also I think Arsenal will play better this year but finish outside the top 4 as I can see the top 6 all being very close and I reckon the gunners will just miss out by a couple points

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          1. Al Pacino
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Norwich is just a gut feeling, with Newcastle, Sunderland and Villa on the up in my opinion, I feel Norwich, and probably Southampton, will be sacrificed as a result, although Soton to a lower extent as they were 14th.

            Arsenal are always associated with the CL, so outside the top 4 is underachieving. I agree though, it won't be because they're weaker, but because their opposition is stronger.

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      5. Absinthe Minded
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Man U, I think 3rd would be a good result

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