[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
14 September 2013 4461 comments
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Six three o’clock kick-offs take us on from United’s 2-0 win over Palace, with the main focus on the Stadium of Light where Mersut Ozil’s undoubted credentials will be on show. Elsewhere, Christan Benteke and Roberto Soldado will carry the armband hopes for many with Robin van Persie set the bar with is spot-kick strike at Old Trafford.

We start the team news round-up at Villa Park where Paul Lambert makes just one change to his lineup for the visit of Newcastle with Karim El Ahmadi drafted in for Leandro Bacuna in midfield. The Magpies make two changes in opposition, with Alan Pardew recalling Yohan Cabaye, while Loic Remy gets a first start up front. Sylvain Marveaux and Shola Ameobi make way.

Martin Jol is forced to change his Fulham lineup at the Cottage, with Aaron Hughes absent through injury. Philippe Senderos comes into the defence to partner Brede Hangeland, while Kieran Richardson replaces John Arne Riise at left-back and Pajtim Kasami returns to the starting XI to replace the sidelined Darren Bent. Steve Clarke is able to give debuts to both Victor Anichebe and Morgan Amalfitano but Stephane Sessegnon misses out with red-tape apparently holding up the completion of his work permit after his move from Sunderland. James Morrison, Scott Sinclair and Shane Long drop out for the Baggies and Chris Brunt also earns a start.

The Tigers are unchanged at the KC Stadium as Danny Graham is retained up front with Yannick Sagbo still serving a ban. In contrast, Malky MacKay makes three changes to his Cardiff lineup – David Marshall misses out in goal through injury, so Joe Lewis starts, while Kevin Theophile-Catherine and Don Cowie are also drafted in, with Craig Bellamy and Matt Connolly dropping out.

Down at the Britannia, Mark Hughes leaves his lineup intact after the three points earned at West Ham. The City teamsheet is much-changed, however. Manuel Pellegrini makes no fewer than six tweaks to the side that stuttered past Hull City last time out, no doubt with their Champions League tie in mind. Alvaro Negredo starts up front as expected, as Edin Dezko drops to the bench. Steven Jovetic is also given a first start and debut as Sergio Aguero makes way late in the day having been named in the original lineup. Elsewhere, with David Silva out injured, Samir Nasri is drafted in to the midfield. Surprisingly, both Jesus Navas and Fernandinho drop to the bench, so Jack Rodwell gets a rare start and James Milner is also included. Meanwhile, at the back, Javi Garcia replaces Joleon Lescott in central defence to take his place alongside Matija Nastasic.

Paolo Di Canio shuffles his pack yet again for the visit of Arsenal. Greek winger Charis Mavrias is given a debut on the flank, while Ki Sung-Yueng also makes a first start in midfield following his arrival from Swansea as Seb Larsson makes way. Both Steven Fletcher and Jozy Altidore make starts up front as Connor Wickham and Ji Dong-won drop out. Valentin Roberge fills in for the suspended John O’Shea at the back. The Gunners give Mersut Ozil his debut as he replaces Tomas Rosicky in midfield. Elsewhere, Bacary Sagna returns to start in central defence for the sick Per Mertesacker and Mathieu Flamini starts in the engine room with Santi Cazorla, rather surprisingly, missing out through injury.

Andre Villas-Boas hands Christian Eriksen his Spurs debut against Norwich, while Gylfi Sigurdsson also makes a start as both Nacer Chadli and Etienne Capoue drop out. Erik Lamela has to make do with a bench role. The Canaries arrive at White Hart Lane with an unchanged lineup.

Our Dugout Discussion Chatrooom remains available throughout these matches and right through to the final whistle in this evening’s clash between Everton and Chelsea at Goodison.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Sánchez
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    I hate how its always Coleman who gets no baps from the clean sheet

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    1. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Pains of being a winger. Assist threat, but fewer baps for passing.

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Needs to add that killer 5 yard nothing pass to his game

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  2. DelPuich
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    IF YOU guys want to watch proper footy and not just kick and run rubbish you see in the epl, then i suggest you watch other leagues. EPL teams are absolute trash. they can spend as much as they want they will always be behind italy, spain, and germany

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    1. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks for your opinion.

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Well, I'm convinced.

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    3. Thick Of It
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Obvious troll is obvious.

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    4. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      We dont

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    5. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Blah Blah Blah

      No one cares mate.

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    6. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Spain is not worth watching.

      Barca 7-0 wins
      Real 5-0 wins

      3rd ends up closer to relegation points wise than they do 2nd

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    7. DÏLKS
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Load of crap. Overall, including all teams, EPL is better than an overall Germany, Italy, Spain. Just because of a couple of big guns in their leagues, doesn't mean they're better overall.

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      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        This is correct.

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      2. DelPuich
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        be quiet. you dont watch other leagues so you wouldnt know you clown

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    8. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Bore off

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    9. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Cardiff and Stoke City would qualify for UCL in any other league 😉

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    10. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Ignore this idiot. He's looking for a reaction.

      Probably 30, sitting in his parents basement fisting himself all day.

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      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        😆

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      2. DelPuich
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        lol uh oh the epl fanboys are all upset because i spoke the truth about their rubbish teams

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    11. Yes Don
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Certainly not Italy. You BELL JOB!

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      1. DelPuich
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        do you watch any other league you moron? so why are you talking

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  3. donkey73
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Fiso vs Totalfpl have so many discrepancies in price changes
    Used to rely on fiso, not so sure anymore...
    What do you guys do?

    example: Silva. is he "protected" or not?
    Mertesacker is -21% or -79% ???

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    1. Rödallegabomb ᴿᴮ
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      TFPL is better this year IMO.

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    2. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Total appears to be more reliable this season

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    3. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Use TotalFPL

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  4. Not Irish
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Sold on Barkley now. Sell Brady or Whittingham for him?

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Brady still on pens ? If so keep him.

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      1. Not Irish
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Not sure. Huddlestone's already taken over most of the free kicks. I like Whittingham alot. I think he has more goals in him from open play.

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  5. Captain Shirokov
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Absolutely ridiculous bps, all Everton defenders except Coleman (who was the best) get 3 BPS.

    The system is a complete farce.

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      You're living in last year, defs get bonus for defending which is as it should be, you're just used to picking attacking defs.

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      1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        agreed! and i have coleman

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    2. .
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      +1
      Hate it. Impossible to predict too. Many people got Vidic for BAPs, got none today. Too much of a lottery and the scoring is too close.

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      1. Eboue
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Or, they got both Vidic and Ferdinand 😉

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  6. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Lescott out for

    a) Enrique
    b) Agger
    c) Zaba - Has United next but tends to be fixture proof
    d) Terry

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    1. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      nasty

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      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        MUN avl EVE, not the best fixtures

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  7. DÏLKS
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Every defender I have had in my side when they keep a cleanie, never gets the BAPs! Unbelievable.

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  8. Tomlette Greggs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Soldado to Benteke tonight seem wise?

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Not at all.

      Soldado showed some great play and linked up well with Eriksen. Plus, TOT vs CAR next week.

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      1. Tomlette Greggs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        do have Eriksen as well. Was wondering if having just Eriksen is sufficient Spurs coverage going ahead.

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    2. Tiki-Taka
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jerky

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    3. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yes. Form over fixtures. Soldado threatened, but still hasn't scored in open play in 4 games.

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  9. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Ramsey worth getting in?

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    1. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      If you need a cheapie mid to rotate with another cheapie mid, he could be a cheeky punt.

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Possibly, he really looks a proper player now

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    3. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      looks a better shout than wallyy,,,

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    4. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Looks better than Walcott who is frankly playing terrible and is 4m cheaper or maybe if you have walcott change it to Ozil?

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  10. Heels_Over_Head
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Barkley & Lukaku are going to make beautiful music together

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    1. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      agreed. but still not convinced he's nailed on.

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  11. FACUPARSE
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Lescott dropped for being not very good or injured?

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      to punish people who make wum comments on a regular basis?

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Who does this? He's in my team...

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yes.

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    3. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      rested for C1?

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    4. Tiki-Taka
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I think the former, either way once Kompany, Di Machelis, Nastasic fit I'd say he is 4th choice

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  12. Woy of the Wovers
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Blah blah Coleman no bonus blah blah.

    If you're unhappy about this, I see two options

    a) get over it
    b) stop playing FPL

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      adapt and overcome

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Why are people never happy with the normal points their players score?

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    3. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I'm thankful for the 6 points 😉

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Me too. 3 CS from 5 defenders is decent enough for me and if Nasty brings home the bacon, I'll have 24 from 5. Shame that mini-league rival had back three of Baines, Coleman and Walker but ho-hum, life goes on.

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    4. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      True as a Coleman owner i don't know what people expect better have the 4 pts than nothing

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  13. Gimli son of Gloin
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Who do you think is the best cheap midfielder.. 4.5 - 5.5 ?

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    1. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Whittingham. Lots of cardiffs play will go through him

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    2. Pedram
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Wittingham

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      1. Gimli son of Gloin
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Interesting. Haven't seen much of him but I'll have a look

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    3. .
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Arnautovic.
      Impressive when he came on today and has goals in him

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    4. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jags (5.5) and Coloccini (5.0) are bonus point whores.

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      1. YankeeDoodleDandy
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Position fail. I really like the look of Redmond on Norwich.

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  14. Retrosynth
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Lost on last page:

    Anybody think Barkley will rise? Want to do Brady>Barkley but won't use him next week. Worth it to save the transfer?

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  15. Hollis
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Hazard to Lamela a good shout for next GW? Should start from now on out right? Or would Eriksen be the better pick?

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    1. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      To hard to tell at this point. AVB is clearly still trying to figure out how to play his team.

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  16. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Lets face it, there'll never be a perfect bonus system.

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      True, we just need to adapt to the one we have this year, not moan about it, it's not changing now.

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    2. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      True

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    3. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yep. Unless the individual chose his own one

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    4. Tiote on Peyote
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yep, unfortunately that's how it is. This is my favourite yet though.

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    5. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Scrap em I say

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    6. .
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      True, but this one is particularly bad IMO

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  17. Blue Teets
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    In his bio Roy Keane said Arsenal fans weren't 'proper' like Utd, City, Pool and Newc fans, I always wondered what he meant.

    Now tho, we can see grown men on YouTube literally crying after the defeat to Villa, screaming "Wenger & Gazidis out"!

    Now they're top and it's 'in Wenger we trust'.

    Fantastic club- utter jokes support.

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    1. The Invincibles
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah because those 5% count for all of us.

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    2. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks for your opinion. Arsenal fans are the only ones who judge their manager by the results.

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  18. Cilly Bonnolly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    By my calculations, once bonuses are added, I'll have 49 with Mignolet, Coutinho, Michu and Sturridge to play. Pretty pleased with that. How's everyone else done?

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    1. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      about 55 with sturidge, shaw and mignolet to play

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  19. Thick Of It
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    I thought I was nuts doing a 24 point hit but it turned out alright, for this gameweek at least:

    Aguero/lescott/Silva/Ward/Boruc/Shaw and Coutinho out for Ozil/Cech/Coleman/Vidic/Mert/Sturridge and Brady

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      what?!

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      1. Heels_Over_Head
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        duct tape your knees to the floor

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    2. Tiote on Peyote
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      You scored 14 points this week. Ridiculous statement.

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    3. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      What have you done to yourself?

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  20. Mighty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    RVP + Brady out for Sturridge + Ozil? Looks a no brainer for next week.

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    1. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      See how Sturridge is on Monday and on that then yes i would as Liverpool and Arsenal fixtures are far superior

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      And what about the following 5 weeks ?

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      1. Mighty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Eriksen in for Walcott for one.

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    3. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Perhaps, but I wouldn't take a hit on it. RVP just as likely to score away to City as Studge imo.

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  21. Heels_Over_Head
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Pardew compared HBA to Suarez after the match today? Give that man another 8 years on his contract 😉

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    1. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Ben Arfa to get 8 year contract then go back to his usual injury prone ways

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  22. AGUEROOOOO!!!!!
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    What points you currently on 31 here

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    1. Eboue
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      50

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    2. MattysFantasyFooty
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      41 but need baps from Giroud and HBA

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    3. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      51 but just wildcarded

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    4. Cilly Bonnolly
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      40, with nine bonuses to go on (I think) and four to play.

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  23. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Who to start nx week

    A vidic
    B Barkley

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  24. Bambi
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    silva to ozil tonight?

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    1. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Good move.

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    2. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yes, if you don't have Wally then definitely.

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      1. kroky
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        ya im doing it

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  25. RedNev
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    51 + 8 Baps + Coutinho and Migs to play. Can't complain.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      33pts with Sturridge, Michu, Moses, Shaw and Boruc left.

      Time will tell...

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  26. Kanus hat trick
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Kim B-K is on very thin ice. Waste of 0.5m 🙁

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  27. Gooner Kebab
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    did RVP really play that badly?

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Should've hat a hat-trick at least.

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Not at all

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    3. RedNev
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Badly? Thought he played ok. Not brilliant just ok.

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  28. Twelve years a slave
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    What about siggy?

    not hearing the love

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      stay away

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    2. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      gotta be a rotation worry, even with the brace.

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    3. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Sigh... sadly a rotation. I miss the good ol' Swansea days when you could stick him in your team for 6.0 and get a goal/assist every time.

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      1. YankeeDoodleDandy
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Actually, he started at 5.0 back then.

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  29. Demí
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    man if i wanna get lukaku in soon, barkley needs to learn to pass properly

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      think he just needs someone who can receive and put it away

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    2. Scottys Army
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      He will get great service from coleman and baines who love attacking.

      Jelavic hardly set the place a light today so i think luk should be starting next week.

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    3. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Give him time Demi. That was a big stage today 😉

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  30. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Negredo to Eto'o?
    Yay or Nay

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Nay Nay and thrice Nay !

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        lol why? i thought he looks very good, could have a hattrick in the game

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        1. Assisting you all day
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          if he plays cl then unlikely mourinho will play the same striker 3 games in a row

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        2. Assisting you all day
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          i doubt etoo can play 3 games in 7 days too (ba and torres are still chelsea strikers)

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    2. Tomlette Greggs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      no, imo. Chelsea forwards will all get rotated, and Eto'o just didn't seem up to speed tonight. Could take a while to get used to the pace of this league.

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