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Don’t Ignore Baines

One of the most heated discussions in the world of Fantasy Football will always be “is Leighton Baines worth his hefty price tag?” Due to Everton’s unkind early fixtures, most Fantasy managers (me included) have steered clear of Baines. But are we being too hasty in ignoring one of the Fantasy game’s most potent forces in recent years?

At the time of writing Baines had a Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership of 15%, far behind the likes of Chelsea’s Branislav Ivanovic (20%), Aston Villa’s Ron Vlaar (25%), Liverpool’s Dejan Lovren (28%) and  Tottenham’s Eric Dier (23%).

Looking at Baines’ track record this seems odd as he has been amazingly consistent over the last four seasons, where he has averaged 165 points per season. His yearly average haul comes in at 22 FPL bonus points, 10.5 clean sheets, six assists and 4.75 goals. Who would not want to own a piece of that?

Many Fantasy managers argue that they would rather opt for a cheap defence and reinvest the money in attacking midfielders and strikers.

In contrast, many argue Baines should be seen as a midfielder due to his attacking threat and set piece duties. Keeping clean sheets are just an added bonus, they claim.

HOW DOES HE COMPARE?

I have decided to compare Baines with the similarly priced defender Ivanovic and, in midfield, Gylfi Sigurdsson.

BainesIvanovicSigurdsson
Successful dribbles441
Successful crosses301
Goal attempts186
Probes into Opposition box786

This shows he maintains a strong potential for assists to bolster the case for drafting him in. In terms of goal attempts, though, he is way behind Ivanovic, but I think it’s a matter of time before Baines starts picking up attacking returns. Martinez will surely also tighten up his defence after the 3-6 loss at home to Chelsea. Baines can only benefit from this.

EUROPA LEAGUE

Everton have Europa league duties this season so we need to keep an eye on this. Everton’s group stage schedule is as follows:

18 Sept   Wolfsburg (H)

2 Oct       Krasnodar (a)

23 Oct    Lille (a)

6 Nov     Lille (H)

27 Nov  Wolfsburg (a)

11 Dec   Krasnodar (H)

How this will affect Baines is debatable. I can’t see him being rotated in Premier League games unless injured.

Fixtures

Everton’s fixtures are another factor to consider, especially when they pick up after Gameweek 7, with Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man Utd then out of the way Everton face:

AVL, bur, SWA, sun, WHM, tot, HUL, mci, QPR, sot, STO, new, hul up to the January wildcard.

These games should provide opportunities for decent returns at both ends of the pitch for Baines.

Christina. Deadzone troll. 15 years playing 3 x 5k; 3 x 10k; 3 x 15k; 1 x 30k; 1 x 40k; 1 x 60k; 1 x 100k Follow them on Twitter

39 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    My brother, A proud owner of Baines would be happy reading this article!

  2. dank9088
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Wildcard active at the moment. Ended up feeling like I had to do it after an army of yellow flags.

    Comments appreciated:

    Mannone (krul)
    Moreno clyne Duff (Moore Hutton)
    Fan Ziggy Ramsey sterling (Boyd)
    Falcao Costa adebayor
    1m ITB

  3. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Comment removed 😕

    Good article anyway, agree on Baines being a good prospect. Honestly, their fixtures really aren't that bad in the next couple of games. Might even get him now at 6.9m, but might be too expensive a defence then...

  4. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks for the "magic marker" treatment Jonty.

    😉

  5. Billy Gilmore
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    lol

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      x

  6. Valar(Keith)
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Baines makes so much sense.. but then coleman gets all the points

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Last season we had the luxury of a 2m price difference between Coleman and Baines.

      Not this year.

      1. Arvin-ation
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        True....

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Being a defender is bit of an "albatross" around his neck.

          Everyone will be very happy if one of their 6.9m milfs scores 170pts over a season.

          So why not own Baines?

          1. Arvin-ation
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Was going to get him in for Debuchy this week, but decided against it and got Moreno.

            In for Terry next week maybe.

            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Good. I don't have funds for Terry->Baines. Will have to wait a while or downgrade Dzeko.

              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Gecko –> Welbeck

                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Yeah,or Naismith.

          2. Nabs Kebabs
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            maybe it's because his returns are consistent (which can be a bad thing)

            If you keep swapping streaky mids like Mirallas etc and manage to grab their purple patches you get a much higher PPG

            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              True, but the changes of getting that right is very slim.

              Mirallas is a frustrating player to own, injury and rotation wise. Well he was last season anyway.

              I still wanted to look at the returns of Baines if Pienaar is fit, but never got around to it.

              1. Nabs Kebabs
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                yeah i agree..when it pulls of though and you have the likes of AJ/HBA at the right time it really feels good. you have however sold me on baines. just made a draft.

                Krul
                Baines/Clyne/Wilson
                Ramsey/Sterling/Tadic/Siggy
                Kun/Costa/Ade

                Elliot/PVA/Boyd/Moore

                what ya think??

                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Very nice indeed.

                  Similar to what I would want on a WC.

                  I would opt for Rooney & Dzeko over Kun/Ade for now with enough funds to swap Rooney to Kun in GW 8 and to get Naismith then.

                  9/10

                  1. Nabs Kebabs
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    when kun is fit you just gotta have him imo. Currently my C.

                    I've lost faith in rooney..he is a crap footballer,

                    rather welbz over naismith personally

                    1. Christina.
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      Yeah, all nice options.

                      Keeping a close(d) eye on Welbeck.

  7. Costa in Wengerland
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Too expensive is the only worry , otherwise as christina said he is a great player

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      6.9m for a player that averages 165pts over the last 4 seasons? Only 0.4m more expensive than Siggurdson....0.6m cheaper than Mirallas(I know I know his stats are good!)

      Not expensive in my books.

  8. SierraDelta
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    I'm torn between Coleman & Baines, to join Ivan & Moreno in my back 3

    1. mastertokalosh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Baines pips it imo pens and set pieces ...

  9. Nabs Kebabs
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    nice one tina..all of a sudden trying to fit him in my wc. not sure if ill wait till gw8

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Same here. Have a feeling he might score sooner (wba/CPAL) rather than later...

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        utd and liv aren't actually that bid anyway..always a chance he grabs a penalty.

        Remember last season when i played a 4-4-2 near the end of the season because i was ravaged with injuries..Coleman and Baines both against united..both got double figure hauls

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          nice!

  10. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Last season, Coleman scored more points than Baines EVER HAS in a season.

    Coleman has started this season with a goal and assist, Baines with nothing. It's going to continue.

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      lol

      The fact that Coleman played 390 minutes more than Baines might have something to do with that.

      In any case, 180pts ain't much more than 177 & 178.

      1. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        obviously that's why he outdid him last year - but still, it's mightily impressive that in his first season as an ever-present, he matched what Baines did even in his prime (with more clean sheets, but Baines was likely favoured by the old bonus system as well).

        I don't doubt that Baines can still come good, but it seems very unlikely that he will outscore Coleman with pens alone (free kicks increasing go elsewhere), when Coleman is such a threat every time he plays.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Just pulling your leg.

          Yeah, I just have a soft spot for Baines, and I hate my 4 month old labrador biting me behind the couch each time Baines takes a FK/penalty and I don't own him!

  11. Margarido
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    For the past 2 seasons he just entered my team in December.
    This time looking forward to replace Terry for him if Chelsea continues to go on the offensive approach

    Nice text, Cristina

  12. Pinoche
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    lol

  13. Tiggsy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    As soon as week 7/8 comes around he's in my lineup. Until then, I hope his value dips a bit.

  14. Al Bundy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    "Probes into Opposition box" Thats a lovely stat

  15. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    I could say "I told you so"...

    But I won't.

    😉

    1. SneakyPete
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      I always knew, I always have