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13 June 2016 701 comments
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Monday’s matches begin with the current European Championship holders opening their bid to retain the crown as Spain face the Czech Republic in the afternoon kick-off.

Vicente del Bosque’s side will be defending a proud record which has seen them keep a clean sheet in their last nine tournament matches, a spell which spans 510 minutes. They go to France in strong form but having suffered a shock 1-0 defeat to Georgia in their previous “warm-up” encounter, their first defeat in 12 matches.

That setback will offer the Czech Republic a glimmer of hope ahead of today’s meeting. Pavel Vrba’s side aren’t fancied to make it to the knockout stages, despite winning their qualifying group. Their poor defensive record is cited as the main concern – the Czech Republic shipped 14 goals, more than any other qualifying nation. They head into the tournament having lost their previous friendly to South Korea but sneaked a 1-0 win over Russia earlier this month.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Chidge
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know if you can save FTs in this game?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah

      1. d1sable
        • Has Moderation Rights
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Can you?

        Thought it had to be used or u lose it for some reason

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Only one transfer can be carried forward to the next matchday. No free transfers can be carried forward once the knockout phase begins.

    2. aflickering
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      same as fpl

  2. Rake
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Chances of Guerreiro starting tomorrow?

    Really need Portugal clean sheet.

    1. Chidge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I don't think anyone really knows. I think it's reasonable, I'll be taking out Muller or Lewa for him.

      1. Rake
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        A 2 point difference. Worth the risk, I suppose.

        1. juggos
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          I was hoping to avoid it myself and really should have went with Strinic but I knew the risk putting him in so I'm taking Muller out for him

          1. Rake
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah. All in or nothing. Who's a threat for that left back spot?

  3. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Sergio Ramos, Juanfran, Hector, Boateng, Djourou.

    Anyone else 5/5?

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yep.

      Schar, Rodriguez, Ramos, Alba, Strinic.

    2. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Lichsteiner, Strinic, Schar, Howedes. 4/4 and Sommer GK. Dragovic and Denayer benched.

    3. Backup Dancer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Does Dier count? 😉

      1. Rake
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This.

  4. sttewwizza
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    So... when we could use this 1 free transfer between rounds ??? After Portugal-Iceland game... ???

    1. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      between rounds...

      1. sttewwizza
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        So... approximately only 14-15 hours for transfer... poorly !

  5. Darth_Newdar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I have Ramos (c) at the moment. Should I switch to Ronaldo for tomorrow? I guess I probably should, Ronaldo vs Iceland is surely worth a captaincy switch.

    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I would yeah, but it's tight

    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      In the same boat and i'm definitely switching.

      1. Darth_Newdar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        That's two of us then! 🙂

    3. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I would risk 8 points on Ronaldo to be fair

    4. sttewwizza
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I had that problem yesterday with switching ... Giroud for Muller... and I blow up... lucky for me that I have Juanfran...

    5. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Probably stick. With no bonus, Portugal need to score two to be worth it, and even then only slightly. Based on this tournament so far that seems unlikely.

      1. elkunaguero
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        this

  6. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Just home from work and saw the Spain result... Nolito (c) fail 😕

    Whats the verdict? Any points worth noting?

    1. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Spain were very good. Nolito was poor imo. Still played 81 minutes tho.

    2. Nomar
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Wildcard time.

    3. Chandler Bing
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Verdict: Any Spanish forward isn't worth taking. Morata was decent but not clinical enough. Nolito was on the far left just going offside. Iniesta, Alba, Juanfran looking good going forward.

    4. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Alba is a very good pick. They don't play a lot with Juanfran. Morata was taken out after 61'

      1. Bibelnissen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        They don't what?? Juanfran created tons of chances, should've had a couple assists..

        1. Swift
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          This. Maybe not a few, but I'd have thought somebody would've put away one of his passes (unfortunately, Spain are not the most clinical). He played well and got into the box some.

        2. Ziro
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Had a scoring opportunity too.

        3. Meimei
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          I don't totally agree with you. But Juanfran is a very good pick.

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Spain were good but miss Messi and Suarez. Everyone got wrong footed by the defender threat (again) and had Alba, Juanfran or Ramos instead of Pique. Hold on to Nolito if you've got him, he wasn't great but still worth his value playing in that Spain side.

      1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I like him as a player he can pick a pass more than a fantasy asset . Decent value at 6m if he keeps starting

    5. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Consider Ramos

    6. aflickering
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      if you've ever watched del bosque's spain you know literally exactly what happened.

    7. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure if Nolito's been allowed to escape from Pavel Kaderabek's pocket yet.

    8. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      8 years later and Iniesta still run the show

  7. raff97
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    My team is

    Sommer - Rui
    Djou - Rami - Dier - Hintereg - Juanfrn
    Gotze - Ozil - Pericic - Fabregas - Payet
    Muler - Giroud - Nolito

    0.0 itb

    My team is mostly good enough for going into the next game so no need for WC. Hwever there are some players who need to go. Gotze and Muller dont represent value IMO, and Fabregas and Nolito didnt do much today. Id like to bring kdb in but that would require a hit. Thinking of goinng Fabregas->6.0(Mak) and Gotze-.KDB for -4... but Id need an amazing match from KDB for it to be worth it. Any other reccomendations?

    1. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, one don't take a hit, two get djourou out for raktisky Ukraine defenser (don't tell anyone 😉 )

      1. raff97
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Defo keeping Djourou!

        1. Meimei
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          No problem 🙂 I will take Schar out for Rak. Or Guerreiro for Strinic if he isn't a starter

    2. Chidge
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      In such a short game (7 GWs I think) -4 hits shouldn't be taken unless absolutely necessary in my opinion, especially considering the fact that you get 2 wildcards. Fabregas and Goetze started for their respective teams, I'd just hang on to one of them.

      1. raff97
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        If I keep hold of Fabregas and Gotze, would you reccomend just keeping the same team? There isnt any good options to downgrade either Muller or Nolito to?

        A possuble option is Gotze -> Kono for the NIR game, and then ill be WC after that game

    3. Swift
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Djourou plays Albania though. That's a really nice fixture for next round. The defence they have looks fine. My concern would be Gotze, who can be downgraded to Iniesta, Mak, etc.

      I wouldn't take a hit though. You have a WC to prevent that and, correct me if I'm wrong, but you get another WC later on anyways. I'd rather just downgrade Gotze or WC altogether.

      Muller should be fine too. Wouldn't react over that.

      1. raff97
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah happy with the back 7. I cant downgrade Gotze to Iniesta because I have 3 spaniards already, and going down to Mak just feels wrong because Id be left with 3.0 ITB. Im planning on WCing after next game, so how about Gotze -> Kono who plays NI?

        1. Swift
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Ah. Didn't see them. My bad. Yes, I would make a transfer like that. You should just focus on who has the best fixtures for next round. I wouldn't be afraid of picking from England/Slovakia and France/Switzerland either, even if their prices are lower. They have each have easy games next round. Konoplyanka totally slipped my mind though (since I can't afford him myself). I think that's a great pick and the rest of your team looks fine for a GW2 WC.

  8. dmcqt
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Before the tournament, Jonathan Wilson in the Guardian suggested that it was likely that this would be a tournament in which defences performed very well. The main reasons are that minnows have improved significantly in the last few tournaments and that since the success of Del Bosque, a conservative approach is being favored by leading teams. Spain didn't take many risks today, but they made sure that they gave their opponents little chance of beating them. Most of the top teams have trouble with their striker selection this year too (particularly Spain, France, and Italy). It's looking as though the pattern of a diminishing number of goals per game will continue. I think for the McDonald's game, this might mean there will be a lot of reward in loading up with defenders from the strongest sides and perhaps sacrificing a striker spot to do this.

    "...international football tends to be more defensive than club football: the last Euro yielded just 2.45 goals per game, Euro 2006 2.48 and Euro 2004 2.48. There were 2.70 goals per game in the Premier League just finished; only once in the past 15 years has it dipped as low as 2.48. There were 2.76 goals per game in this season’s Champions League."
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/09/history-tactical-simplicity-euro-2016-innovation

    1. Bøss ⭐
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      interesting - certainly makes me glad I picked a German, Spanish, French, Belgium defender (plus Schar!). I think I'll play 4 defenders most rounds

  9. Frank Black
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    When can you make transfers in the Eurofantasy?

    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      You can't make transfers till the gw is over

      1. Frank Black
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Oh, right, now i remember. I though you could maybe make limited transfers at the end of a match day.

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          You can't even make subs till the game updates tonight

  10. Nomar
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Mueller and Morata.

    Shame on me.

  11. Pegboy
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    *Draft Fantasy League Question*

    Who is more likely to start from Portuguese back-line, in order:

    1) Guerreiro
    2) Eliseu
    3) Cedric

    Attacking returns irrelevant. I just want the most likely starter for the whole tournament. Thanks

    1. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Guerreiro 90% Eliseu 10% Cedric 30%

  12. Bibelnissen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Current WC draft:

    Akinfeev - Patricio
    Juanfran - Bonucci - Giaccherini - Rami - Denayer/Lukaku
    De Bruyne - Payet - Sigurdsson - Candreva - Stanciu
    Lukaku - Giroud - Nolito

    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'd want Konoplyanka or Yarmolenko for that NIR fixture.

      1. Bibelnissen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Have been looking at them, but would have to keep for POL aswell. Who to drop though?

      2. aflickering
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        i wouldn't. poland's wingers didn't get much joy, fantasy wise, and poland have much better targets in the box than ukraine. i understand the impulse because NI are the worst team we've seen so far, but sometimes bad teams are harder to score against because they set up so negatively.

        1. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Did you watch the game? It was cross after cross. And Ukraine's wingers are better.

          1. Baines on Toast...
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            that is, they are more goalscorers. rather than needing to feed a central striker.

          2. Bibelnissen
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            This. And they played really well against Germany, coming really close to scoring and assisting (mainly looking at Kono). Don't tell me they can't to the same harm to NI as they did to GER.

    2. dmcqt
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not convinced by double Italy defence against Ibrahimovic. Maybe downgrade Akinfeev and upgrade to another Spanish defender.

      1. Bibelnissen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Akinfeev is only 5.0. Not gonna go any lower after my Kozacik horror show when everyone had Sommer.

      2. Bibelnissen
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        They have three of the best CBs in the world to deal with him though, and there's very little threat from other players in that Sweden team. Also, Ireland in the third round.

  13. Scheister
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Well Nolito (C) failed. I suppose Junuzovic is a safer captain choice than Guerreiro tomorrow?

    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      certainly

    2. southernpacific
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Im going Junuzovic tomorrow from Morata

    3. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Guerriro is 50/50 to start .

  14. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    0-0; two Randolph pen saves.

  15. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Good prospect Morata, preetttttty good.........

  16. Bøss ⭐
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    depending on how good Belgium look today, I might bring in Lukaku for Lewandoski - Poland have a tough group and if he can't score against NIR I don't fancy his chances against Germany or Ukraine!

  17. Liastro ⭐️
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    A or B?

    A. Leave captaincy on Juanfran (6x2)

    B. Switch captaincy to Ronaldo.

    1. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      If it was anyone but Ronaldo I'd leave it

    2. Backup Dancer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I would stick personally

    3. dmcqt
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'd change. If Ronaldo blanks, you're only four points worse off. It's not unreasonably to think he might get a brace or more, in which case you come out well ahead. The possible reward outweighs the risk, as I see it.

    4. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A Ronaldo blank you lose 8
      B Ronaldo 6
      C Ronaldo 10 you win 8
      D Ronaldo crush it...

  18. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Who have got left to play then?

    I have -

    Ibrahimovic
    Ronaldo
    Jununovic
    Patricio
    Guerreiro

    1. Bibelnissen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Everyone has so many players

      I've only got Alaba, Patricio and Klein left..

    2. Meimei
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Guerreiro

  19. Hibbo
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Bit surprised that James McClean didn't get the start.

    He gives us the intensity to defend from the front and hammer someone in a tackle.

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Question marks over his temperament i think.. loves to get stuck in but can over step the mark

      1. Hibbo
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        He will no doubt come on for Wes Hoolohan.

        Surprised Clark got the nod over Keogh/Duffy.

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Yep will play some part.. good luck mate hopefully you balls don't drop like ours did

          1. Hibbo
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 1 month ago

            I'd have preferred Duffy playing.

            He wouldn't have given a rat's ass who Zlatan thinks he is.

            Hopefully man.

  20. BigAsGiroud_
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    punt Junuzovic(C) or leave it on Juanfran...

    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      leave it

    2. BigAsGiroud_
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      or punt Dragovic(C)

    3. ROOTY7
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      stick

  21. 420king
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Strinić nailed on for the rest of the group stage or is Srna coming back?

  22. wachu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    is it possible to make transfers today? Or it has to be tommorow?

  23. Denis Tueart on the wing
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    When can we start to bring in transfers / wildcard ?

  24. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Belgium on the verge of being eliminated 😮