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The Numbers Game – Liverpool

Next up in our series of in-depth team-by-team members’ articles is Liverpool.

First off, we assess the levels of performance over the previous campaign across the squad, looking for trends and patterns before we check out the Merseysiders’ standout individuals ahead of the 2017/18 season.

That finds us pay particular attention to both James Milner and Roberto Firmino, as we analyse their potential ahead of likely reclassifications in Fantasy Premier League.

Having finished the 2015/16 campaign in eighth position with 60 points, the Reds racked up 76 points in Jurgen Klopp’s first full season at the helm to cement a fourth-place spot.

Liverpool found the net on 78 occasions – the fourth most potent attack in the top-flight, which was up on their tally of 63 goals in the season beforehand.

Paul Is certain he won't make the same mistakes next season. Follow them on Twitter

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  1. Junior âš½
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    2 deals going on today at united.

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Wowzers.

      Who is the other one?

      1. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Ramos.

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          lol

        2. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Happy with Lacazette? The new RVP?

          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            He's not as good as RvP was, but I'm very happy. Been waiting half a decade for a mobile striker with quality. 🙂 I really think we'll be a force if we can replace Cazorla as well.

            1. Fantasy Gold
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Yes, i agree.

              He is very good 🙂

            2. Individual
              • 10 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Couldn't have put it better myself. Am very excited! The guy does need pens to get him over 20 - he scored 10 of his 28 last season from the spot - but I'm hoping the dynamic between him, Ozil and Sanchez will be stronger than with Welbz/le donkey in that spot.

      2. Junior âš½
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Looks like Morata is still on the table but who knows. Something is going down.

        1. Fantasy Gold
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I don't understand why Real want to sell him.

          I'd play him over Benzema any day of the week.

    2. Spencer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sheffield United have signed Fulham defender Richard Stearman on a three-year deal

      What's the other one?

      1. Junior âš½
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Was waiting for that.

  2. Fantasy Gold
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Has anybody heard anything more on Fabinho/Matic to United?

    It's all gone a bit quiet...

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Well Lukaku to United was a bit quiet too!

      1. Fantasy Gold
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        True.

  3. The Tinkerman
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    If Rooney becomes the first choice striker at Everton, what will his FPL price be?

    Not even sure if he will still be listed as a striker...

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Pretty sure he'll be a midfielder. 8.5-9m?

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        He was 9 last season, have to assume it will be lower than that. If he is a 8m or below midfielder and starting games... I'd be pretty interested in that.

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'd sign him up if classed as a 4.5m mid.

  4. Junior âš½
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    What premium defenders are you looking at right off the bat?

    1. Fantasy Gold
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Valencia.

      1. Junior âš½
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        If Lindelof is priced .5 less?

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Still Valencia or neither

        2. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yes, he'd be worth the extra. Lindelof has no goal threat and his numbers in relation to bonus points aren't promising. Seems like a 6 pointer kind of guy. All conjecture of course.

          1. Individual
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah Lindelof with 1 goal for last year - albeit a free kick rammed home (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHeAKBL7v-k) doesn't entice me too much, nor does Bailly who equally offers nothing going forward. Both strike me at 6ers as defenders with the occasional bp maybe.

            Shelling out for Valencia may be worth him. I think him, Trippier and Dawson are looking like my core back three at the moment.

            1. UnitedFan
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              True, however Bailly has more bonus prowess than Lindelof. Could be decent value of at 5.5?

              1. Individual
                • 10 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Perhaps - if 5.5 then perhaps, but I'd prefer Trippier or maybe Bertrand there; bps magnet is great, though. More upside in the other players I've mentioned tho.

                1. UnitedFan
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Agree.

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kolasinac

      1. Junior âš½
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Do you trust their defence?

        1. diesel001
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yes. Arsenal are a solid team IMO. But their midfield lacks defensive work ethic.

    3. The Tinkerman
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Rose will probably be excellent value out of the premium attacking wing backs.

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Maybe Trippier if Walker leaves, and depending on other signings of course.

        1. Junior âš½
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Hopefully no more rotation

    4. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Valencia/Bailly

    5. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Kolasinac, Valencia and Trippier if nailed

  5. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    how did arsenal get lacazette for 52m in this market 😯

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Maybe he's worse than Giroud... :/

    2. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Agree. But the French league is easier than the PL. PSG and Monaco may be top sides, but there is a lot of dross in there.

      I have said it before - PL is the most competitive big league in Europe and therefore it is the most physically demanding. But competition does not mean they are awesome teams. It is like Wimbledon - it is hard for Murray to win because Nadal, Federer, Djokovic are there pushing him giving him tough matches = more effort. When Sampras was playing it was easier for him because he had less competition. It is why IMO:

      1) League Cup should be scrapped
      2) FA Cup replays should be scrapped
      3) There should be a winter break
      4) PL should be reduced to 18 teams.

      1. fedolefan
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Agree with idea in theory and with the Andy Murray bit, but keep the Sampras argument out of it mate, it's not the same. May appear to be the same to a casual, but as someone who's watched a lot of tennis, Sampras had enough competition back then. The courts were much much faster, so the likelihood of an unknown/lower ranked player beating you was also much higher. Racket technology was also much different then and has evolved. Different challenges in different eras. The slower courts, more professional look to the game mean all-round skills come to the fore more, which is why you see the consistency there is and the lack of breakthroughs.

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Have to agree regarding sampras.. agassi becker edberg courier ivanesivic chang muster rafter provided enough competition for him over the years. Im sure i have missed a few out too.

          1. fedolefan
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah, I mean so many big servers too back then with the faster courts.. Krajicek, Stich, Goran, Becker etc

      2. bojack
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        League and FA Cup comments I am in agreement with. Winter football is a tradition in this country though and it's removal would be yet another slap in the face for the fans in my view.

        1. bojack
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          By winter I mean Boxing Day, NYD etc.

    3. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No real competition for his signature. Lyon not being overly wealthy. Player not really proven at highest level.

      1. Licky
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, I guess once Atletico was no longer on the cards he was left with few options.

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Thats only my possible take on it but makese sense

    4. Ghost Gooner
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      We got lucky with Lyon not making the UCL themselves, the rise of Mbappe took attention away from him and the Atleti ban helped out in a big way.

      I think he also felt displacing Giroud at Arsenal might put him in contention of making the WC team

    5. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Arsene knows.

  6. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Only Valencia for me, with Cedric from the 2nd tier. Then 3x4.5s

  7. Deulofail
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Can anyone with basic computer knowledge take a guess as to why Sky Fantasy Football won't go past the initial loading stage for me. It's the same on Chrome on Android and Windows, as well as Edge and IE.

    I suddenly remembered that I gave up SSFF a couple years ago because I had the same problem, but now I have a new laptop and phone. I tried without extensions to no avail, but as I say it's not just Chrome.

    1. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Oh silly me. It's coz I'm not in the UK.

      1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Assuming Hola won't work with a site like Sky ?

        1. Deulofail
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Don't use Hola, but Touch VPN works.

  8. Community Writer of the Month Vote - June
    J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Community writer of the month vote - June

    Its the time again when we recognise those who submit community articles to the site.

    We are giving away a £20 Amazon voucher to your favourite writer of June.

    To vote simply mention their name in the comments on this hot topic.

    Deadline 4pm July 7.

    all can be found here http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/category/community-submissions/

    Here's a recap

    Pundit of Punts - price prediction game

    Giggs Boson - analysing clean sheets

    Niemi - Fantasy Eliterserien previews

    VS10 - Fantasy Euros U21 article

    FPL dreams - ICC Champions Trophy fantasy game

    YMA - What the form and fixtures say - season review

    Red Lightning - Newly promoted teams chances of success

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      FPL Dreams. For organising league etc as well.

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Also for doing Tour De France fantasy.

    2. The Tinkerman
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Niemi, always excellent Eliteserien work.

    3. Deulofail
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Individual 😉

    4. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      FPL dreams

    5. One Game at a Time
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Noemi, would be lost without his insightful work on Eliteserien

    6. I Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      VS10

    7. MTPockets
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Niemi

      • Essan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        FPL Dreams - I'd never played fantasy cricket before but thoroughly enjoyed that little tornament. Wouldn't have played were it not for him.

        1. Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Didn't want to disrupt the flow of the thread but this is perhaps the best thing anyone has ever said to me in this site. Thank you so much mate. Means a lot.

      • bojack
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Giggsy for me.

      • Jay_
          6 years, 9 months ago

          FPL Dreams

        • Speédy
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          GB,great article.

        • AA33
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          FPL Dreams.

        • Lawrø
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Red Lightning

        • FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          FPL Dreams for me...

        • Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Red Lightning

          1. WALOR
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Giggs

        • A.T
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs

        • Ludo
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson

        • Ziro
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson

        • Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Niemi

        • Badluck Jonathan
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Niemi

        • Urchin
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          FPL dreams

        • TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson

        • Numb
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson!

        • ​
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Pay all your writers you stingy buggers

        • The Quiff
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Niemi

        • Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          GB please

        • Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson

        • The Rumour Mill
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson. Peak maths!

        • Heels_Over_Head
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson. Just a wow.

        • Diva
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson

        • Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Pundit of Punts.

        • Jigger & Pony
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          GiggsB

        • Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson - Analysing clean sheets

          Sorry Dreams i dont even know the rules of cricket.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            "You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out. When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

            When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game!"

        • Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          PoP. 🙂

        • Desertbug
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson.
          Love some good defensive analysis

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Then I highly recommend Red Lightning's posts and articles. He's gone into far more depth than I have so far. I may expand my ticker model with his ideas he gave in the comments. He deserves credit for his work.

        • George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson .

        • BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Giggs Boson.

        • Bunk Moreland
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Niemi.

      • Junior âš½
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Do we see Huddersfield getting any cleans in the first 3 games?
        cpl / NEW / SOT

        1. viewoftheland
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          3 clean sheets there.

        2. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Maybe the Newcastle game, though the Toon beat them 3-1 in the same fixture last year. Favouring giving them a miss at the back, but I do like Incey or Kachunga as a little punt.

          1. Lovren an elevator
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            The 'who got the assist' seems to really rate Ince, I'll be keeping an eye of him pre season

      • Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, I'm wondering if they might have a starter for 4m.

      • Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Any camera enthusiasts here?
        I'm looking for a fairly wide angle lens on a cropped canon 7D
        Suggestions?

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I know a guy but I probably can't get you an instant response, can I get back to you later?

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Okay so he's got two questions, are you on a budget and do you want a prime?

          2. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            That would be great. Could you let him know I'm looking at canon 17-40mm. Budget £800.

            1. ★Kuntheman★
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Done, I'll reply here when he gets back to me

              1. ★Kuntheman★
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Alright so I'll quote him since I don't understand any of this lingo and I don't want it lost in translation 🙂

                "The 17-44mm is a great choice, if he wants an extra f-stop he can look at the 17-55mm EF-S which is a 2.8 but it's a little more expensive. Canon also sells a 40mm F2.8 prime and a 24mm EF-S F2.8 prime which are very affordable and have the latest focus system in them.

                The 16-35mm is the king of wide angle, but that is probably out of his price point.

                I have the 17-55mm and I think it is the best walking around lens for its price on an EF-S body"

                Dont understand any of that but hope it was helpful, if you've got follow up questions let me know mate

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Haha. That's awesome. If you really fancy being amazing, could you tell him I've found a 16-35mm II for £900. Worth the extra stretch?

                  1. ★Kuntheman★
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    He's asking if it's F2.8 or F4?

                    1. ★Kuntheman★
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      He says

                      "That seems like a bad deal even if it is F2.8 because on Amazon the version 2 is going for £1000 new. It would have to be perfect condition and he would have to not care about not having a warranty. It only saves him £100 pounds and he loses the warranty and risks any problems. The version he would buy used is £1000 new. Add a warranty and it's novelty."

                      1. Rupert The Horse
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        Fantastic. I'll look now.

                    2. Rupert The Horse
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Oh and it's 2.8

                2. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Oh oh oh. And I'm not after a prime. Xxxxxx

                  1. ★Kuntheman★
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    Will let him know

                    1. ★Kuntheman★
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      He says he's not surprised lmfao

        2. Ziro
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Theres a cheap Canon 10-18 which should be ok unless you are fussed about the 'best' image quality.

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Looks like a good lens but just a tiny bit low on quality and would like a bit more zoom.

            1. Ziro
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              You said wide so I immediately though wide zoom, but in an other comment you mentioned 17-40 which is more of a standard zoom. Find comment below on that range.

              1. Rupert The Horse
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Ah. I've always been of the mindset that anything below 24mm is wide and being ultra wide. But then again I'm in a cropped camera.

                1. Ziro
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Yeah. You would be right when talking about a full-frame. But on the cropped sensor, you need to shift the ranges accordingly.

        3. Ziro
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Just seen your budget.

          Leave the Canon 17-40. If you want that range of zoom then better to go for the Sigma 18-35 Art Lens. Although it is a 3rd party lens it blows everyone else out of the water, even the own Canon ones.

          If you don't have the other focal lengths covered then the Canon 17-55 2.8 is much better as you will want that extra 15mm of focal length.

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Cracking comments. Thanks Ziro.
            Only thing with the 17-55 is that it's not an L series. But that's just me being pretentious.

            1. Ziro
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Word on the street is the 17-55 is the lens Canon forgot to put the red ring on. Performs like an L.

              1. Ziro
                • 9 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Of course the reason the red ring is missing here is because it is a ef-s lens. That is the sole reason. Quality-wise it is the bomb.

                1. Rupert The Horse
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Question is, can my ego handle not having a red ring. I really love a red ring on the end of my lens.

                  1. ★Kuntheman★
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    My mate's essentially telling you to suck it up and get the Canon 17-55 haha, says it's brilliant and exactly what you need.

                    Says you should buy a full frame camera if you want the L series.

                    1. Rupert The Horse
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Great. That's what I'll get.

                      1. ★Kuntheman★
                        • 8 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        Which one, full frame or Canon 17-55? I want to report back to him and let him know...

                        1. Rupert The Horse
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          6 years, 9 months ago

                          I'll get the 17-55

                  2. Ziro
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    Well, if you are so inclined, then L-series is the way to go.

                    Photography is always about what you feel is a good image and are satisfied with. It's the feeling you get when you press the shutter and look at the image on the PC. If you are going to be nit-picking and lamenting the lack of the red-ring as the reason your image lacks a bit of contrast here, slight chromatic aberration there, then you are not going to be happy.

                    And if the red-ring stops you getting that feeling and makes the image seem right, then you got to get the red ring.

                    Simple. 🙂

                    1. ★Kuntheman★
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Yeah my friend's saying that you should just go and drop $2400 on the 6D Mark II if you feel that way, probably based on similar advice to Ziro here

                    2. Rupert The Horse
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Ok I've decided to go with the 17-55mm 2.8 and in the section with "people who bought this also bought" is a little pot of red pain and a brush. So I'll get that.

                      1. ★Kuntheman★
                        • 8 Years
                        6 years, 9 months ago

                        Cheers haha that's probably the way to go 🙂

                2. ★Kuntheman★
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  My mate's saying Canon 17-55 2.8 is superb, says he's heard mixed reviews on Sigma 18:35 Art Lens. Says they used to be associated with cheap and poor quality but they've tried to reinvent themselves with the Art line

                  1. Ziro
                    • 9 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    Sigma did start as the cheap-line of lenses for both of the major camera makers. But the recent Art series have surpassed the camera makers' own brand of lenses. Not just in quality too. Look at the prices, some of them are MORE than the equivalent lenses of Canon or Nikon. That shows you where they are now in the game. And the 18-35 has been around for sometime now. Quite proven and built like a tank if you ask me.

                    1. ★Kuntheman★
                      • 8 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Yeah my friend's still not convinced with Sigma but he says that he agrees with you on picking the camera that gives you the good feels

      • ★Kuntheman★
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Senior Everton officials just told Sky Sports that no deal has been agreed to sell Lukaku to Manchester United...

        ...so are we gonna add that to the Griezmann list now or later?

        1. Individual
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I smells a bit like it's Raiola hustling to force Chelsea into making the deal, I bet he doesn't want the reunion with JM

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Agreed. Would love if Chelsea just go with Batshuayi and United go with Rashford just to stuff it in that pig's face

      • Stat Sloth
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Hi there everyone. Looking forward to the new season!

        What is the ETA for "The New and Improved FPL" launch?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Next week

          1. Stat Sloth
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Aight, TM, thanks for the reply (¨,)

      • Individual
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Wonder how many people will be caught out by the Friday 18:45 deadline this season lol (see tweets!)

        Can imagine many will log on to do their teams and already see a gameweek in progress... my bet is a record number of GW2 entrants to the game.

        This place will be busy with some of the unfortunate few who could get on in time I'm sure too...

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I might be sealing in one draft and calling it a day at the moment barring injuries over the preseason

          Big mistake last season was overthinking and fluttering through a million drafts, so many regrets by the time GW 1 ended...

        2. bojack
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Is that every week, then?

      • Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Why is Lukaku now being touted as essential, when Man U scored 8 fewer goals last season than Everton?

        Just sayin'.

        1. Royal5
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          He scored most of the goals.

        2. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          We had a poor conversion rate. Plenty of chances created though. We'll improve this season.

        3. I Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          1. Last season isn't this season. I would expect United to improve in that regard.
          2. Even though they didn't score that many it didn't stop Ibrahimovic from being a good option. Lukaku could be the same or better.
          3. Nice fixtures.

          It might sound a bit strange but I think he's a much better option for our GW1 teams if at United than if at Chelsea. I was planning to get Pogba but if Lukaku is there and on pens I can't look past him for my initial squad. Much less of a rotation risk than Jesus and Aguero, and proven in the Prem unlike Lacazette (who I fully expect to do well btw). I wouldn't call him essential but what's not to like?

          1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            A. Mourinho

        4. A.T
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          25% of fpl'ers support Utd.

        5. Arteta
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Not essential but his ownership will be huge, mainly because United has the biggest fan base. He will continue to score goals and United will eventually get their sh*t together.

      • Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        West Ham being linked with every striker going in the 10-25m bracket, some I've no real idea of. Can anyone tell me if the following are any good?

        Lucas Perez
        Cedric Bakambu
        Nicolai Muller
        Vincent Aboubakar
        Yacine Brahimi

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Perez is good, didn't get to show it. Bakambu is good. Muller is okay. Aboubakar is pretty shite. Brahimi is crazy inconsistent, and he could never play striker.

        2. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Only know the first one. Looked decent whenever he was given mins at Arsenal.

        3. VS10_
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Müller and Brahimi are wingers. Others are ok-strikers, 25-28 years old, who are decent additions but won't get them above Everton.

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I could see Muller playing up top. Can't see that with Brahimi.

            1. VS10_
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah, probably. I could imagine the excitement of WHU fans if they signed an average 29-year old Bundesliga player who hasn't scored over 10 goals in a season.

              1. ★Kuntheman★
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Better than Andy Carroll...? 😉

              2. Fpl Richie
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                The mood is not good anyway. Most fans detest the scattergun approach being taken in recent years and the lack of a clear plan. Plus there's a strong sense that they bluff with bids for top players that they know they won't pay for or have any chance of getting. Only one signing so far, for a veteran right back (Zabaleta) and they had a very poor season last year - could easily have been relegated in a different season.

        4. Fpl Richie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Ta. Quite like Perez and Bakambu from clips/write ups. But whether they are what's required or will come I'm not sure. Hoping Hernandez, now that Gru and Kelechi appear unlikely.

        5. Arteta
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Perez is good, don't know about others.

      • ihateramsey2
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        FPL had made many changes for many Important players these season
        Many players won't be "Mid" anymore , They will be "Forward" players from now on..
        Mohamed Salah
        Alexis Sanchez
        J. King
        T. Walcott
        M. Arnautovic
        R. Sterling
        Nolito
        Fermino
        Pedro
        While C. Brunt will be "Mid" not "Def" anymore..

        is this true?

        1. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Nope, you would hardly have any midfielders if you applied this logic. Just CMs and CDMs.

        2. Speédy
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Source???
          Only Firm among those should be changed imo.

        3. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          BRB *goes off to check crystal ball*

        4. I Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Firmino and King are the only ones I can see being forwards.

      • Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        thoughts on this Sky Team? Only shaped the defence according to fixtures (wildcard gameweek 4).

        Foster
        Soares - Francis - Ward - Kolasinac
        Coutinho - Ozil - Fabregas - Pedro - Sane
        Kane

        0.2m ITB

        1. FPL Kangaroo
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Nice team. But will Fabregas start?

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            He should if Matic leaves.

        2. FPL ZB
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I've moved away from four at the back due to the points system favouring goals. Likewise keeper clean sheets, so worth getting a keeper who will keep loads, and care less about saves

          1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Agreed 343 or 352 they way to go in this game. Defenders penalised way too much and hardly get mom.

          2. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Good point. Foster should be good for the first 3 fixtures though?

            The defenders seem such good value until a budget mid reveals themselves and I can invest more upfront (strikers are SO expensive in the Sky game).

        3. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Too many rotation risks in there. Fabs, pedro and sane. Also arsenal not the best 3 fixtures would rather eriksen.

          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I'm just focusing on the first 3 games. Hazard is injured, isn't he?

            Yep, could get Eriksen over Ozil, but with Kane there too, then maybe Ozil might click this season with Lacazette.

            No doubt my team will change loads before the start!

            1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              He is but willian there too so one of pedro and fabs could drop out. Plus i dont think we can really make a serious team without the fixture days being announced which will be Monday.

              1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Saying this we know arsenal game is friday 11th so an arsenal attacker is a must therefore ozil or Sanchez good options so i take that back.

                1. FPL ZB
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  I've got Kolasinac, Pedro, Kane captains until I know more

              2. penman26
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                the days were announced on sky earlier

                1. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  So they were didn't see that. Better get tinkering then

      • @chapellefpl OR 577TH
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I can reveal that fpl will pretty much go live on the 10th of July. From inside source Jules Breach.

        1. FPL ZB
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Still a very pompous post, but at least you credited a source for once. Maybe an improvement.

      • Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Would Britt Assombalonga cut in the premier league?

        1. Fpl Richie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          *Sorry - cut it in the premier league.

        2. A.T
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Not sure if he's a starter at the moment.

          1. nobwak
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            He'd be a record transfer for Burnley, so he'd have to be.

        3. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          With the right team, stands as much chance as
          Knockaert, Kachunga, Abraham imo

        4. nobwak
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yes, in the right team. Born goalscorer.
          Burnley can keep their filthy mits off though...

          1. Fpl Richie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            A few others are interested too. Boro being one.

            A West Ham fan mate really wants him to go there, but they have been looking for bigger names (who turn them down usually!).

            1. nobwak
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              They can all do one. He's ours.

      • Piggs Boson
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        @Members

        http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/team-stats/distribution/
        Sort this table by Chances Created > L and look where Man United are!
        Then sort again by Chances Created > C & R.

        The difference in the stats are incredible. Which player(s) would you say are responsible for this?

        1. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          rash and martial usually an inside forward, with blind etc overlapping. right wingers tend to come more centrally (mata especially) while tony v charges around.

        2. Ludo
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Pogba. Have a look at his average position/chances created maps.

          1. Ludo
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            You can also see it with the positions of Zlatan's chances created, their second most creative player. It must have been where the play was directed, rather than being down any particular player, I suppose.

            1. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Interesting. Thanks gents!

      • Lovren an elevator
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        So including Lukaku/Morata, what do we think is United's best/starting 11?
        Something like......
        De Gea
        Valencia Bailly Lindelof Blind/Rojo
        Matic Herrera
        Mkhi Pog Mata/Rashford/Perisic
        Lukaku/Morata

        ?

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          oh im so glad fergie and ronaldo left lol

          1. Lovren an elevator
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            You like that then?
            And is that the team you think?

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              doesn't instill fear as a rival
              i don't know

              1. Lovren an elevator
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Well I still think the defence is behind last season's top 4, but with mourinho's tactics, they'll still keep more cleansheets probably.
                Mkhi and even Lukaku/Morata would look more threatening at one of the top 4 teams.
                So I see what you mean. I'm just trying to workout who's nailed so I can narrow it down to a few options to monitor.
                I'm thinking Valencia, Mkhi and Pogba

      • Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Shockingly lonely on the Tour de France page.

        All the Sagan owners seem to have left with him.

        1. Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Non Sagan owner here. But not televised here.

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Really...where are you?

            Been a strange day. Very hot with just three breakaways from the off that haven't been allowed much more than the standard two minute gap....and now being reeled in.

            Finish is set up for Kittel and Grieple but Kittel's men really need to do a better lead out for him than a couple of days ago.

            The big news is that rain clouds are gathering at the finish and could be a wet sprint.

            1. Dreams
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Hmm interesting. Keep posting the updates. This is my only source.

              1. Dr Dream
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                7k to go. And breakaway down to just 30 seconds so fairly standard stuff.

                Team SKY staying a little further back for the finish so it looks like safety first and staying away from the main sprinter teams.

              2. Dr Dream
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Quickstep,with Kittel moving to the front of the peloton at 4k

        2. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'm still here Wakey but it's my heavy week working wise ... a good race yesterday. Wish they had more climbing stages; so much more interesting.

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yesterday was a fantastic day tactically...so much going on for so many teams and individuals.

            1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              More of the same please

        3. Je suis le chat
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          My heart was broken when Sagan was booted out. Lost interest sadly.

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Such a poor state of affairs that we can't replace riders. I lost Izzy on day one and I really fancied him for a big Tour.

        4. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Kittell wins the sprint

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            My Froomeless and Saganless team has so far won three stages and a second place out of six stages and still Froome is killing me.

            Shows just how good he is.

      • TheBusDriver
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Why would I waste time on the new FPL game? It has no overall rankings and no prizes. Useless game.

        1. Ziro
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          It is for people who have friends.

          Maybe not for you so. 😉

          1. ★Kuntheman★
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Damnit Ziro

        2. ★Kuntheman★
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I wouldn't play either if I didn't have friends

        3. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          It's a fab addition for those of us who are more concerned with the cat and mouse of mini leagues.

          1. Ziro
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            The moment it got announced I thought of you and your lads and brother. Perfect for you lot.

            1. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Oh aye. Three or four man mini leagues sounds perfect.

        4. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          It depends how it develops. For example we have unlimited transfers in our league which makes it spicey as we often play fixtures, moving players in and out. Being able to customise the draft to how managers want to play the game is key to its future success I reckon.

      • Ludo
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        2016/17 Minutes Per Big Chance Created:
        Man United - 57
        Everton - 67

        Minutes Per Big Chance:
        Ibrahimovic - 106
        Lukaku - 131

        Big Chance Conversion:
        Ibrahimovic - 30%
        Lukaku - 72%

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          lukaku's strength is bullying poor defences, he's really good at scoring multiple goals against the dross

          but people play footy against the ev, how would lukaku fare against a parked bus? or good cb's? his record vs good teams is rubbish tbf..

          depends how teams set up vs utd

          1. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I remember when he used to be known as a troll for only scoring in difficult fixtures and flopping in the easy ones. How quickly things change...

            It doesn't seem long ago he scored a hattrick off the bench against Fergie's team.

            1. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              over 4 years ago

              1. Piggs Boson
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                😯

                The first point was only last season.

          2. UnitedFan
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            His record against top teams wasn't that bad, was it? Definitely not as poor as was being made out I thought.

            1. Jazz!
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Think he scored 4 against the top 6. He is more ruthless against the lesser sides and that would've been of massive use last season where we often failed to kill the game.

              1. UnitedFan
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Hmmm...... right thanks. You'd imagine he'd improve that record with better service.

              2. Piggs Boson
                • 12 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                There should be a decline for every striker's output in the harder fixtures - it's just logical.

                Everton won't beat many big sides. United are more capable of playing through them and creating chances.

            2. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              off the top of my head he scored vs city and spurs

          3. I Member
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            This is the concern for Lukaku at United. Or at Chelsea for that matter. Is he good enough to break down teams that sit deep and get everyone behind the ball? He will have to deal with that far more at a top club than he did at Everton and West Brom.

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              agreed, one of the few concerns

            2. Piggs Boson
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Breaking down an opponent is the responsibility of the whole team. Everton aren't that capable at it.

              1. goriuanx
                • 13 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                nobody parks the bus against everton, not even mourinho 🙂

              2. I Member
                • 8 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Technically excellent forwards can make chances for themselves on the turn or by beating a man with individual skill or by having the vision and movement to work that crucial one-two at the right moment. Which top team in world football has a striker that just waits around for a clear chance to come his way? They don't come very often if a well organised defence has everyone behind the ball. Suarez, Lewandowski, Aguero, Kane, Benzema, Costa, etc. are all about to unlock stubborn opposition on their own. Lukaku will need to be able to as well.

                1. I Member
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  able to* not about to.

                2. Piggs Boson
                  • 12 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  He did that many times last season! He's been working on his game.

                  1. I Member
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    I'm not saying he isn't capable but he is afforded more time and space at Everton than he will be at United. As Berb's Forehead said, who really parks the bus against Everton? Smaller teams certainly will against United.

        2. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks. Very exciting.

      • Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        YEAH....Kittel wins.....but his team is rubbish....shocking lead out,

        1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Deja vu with the guy coming through on the rails there ...good chance of another serious crash if that had gone wrong

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            A real lesson by Kittel. Don't get stuck on the rails.

      • internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        If you take Lukaku's record against the 'big' teams-Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man city, Man Utd, & Tottenham

        2013/14 season: Lukaku scored 5 goals
        2014/15 season: Lukaku scored 0 goals against any of the teams that finished in the top 6 last season
        2015/16 season : Lukaku scored just the single goal
        2016/17 season: Lukaku scored 5 goals

        Not brilliant tbh. Last season was good but with Utd's record against the top sides last season, he will need to do more

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          utd need a striker to beat the dross and lukaku is just that

          mourinho loves 0-0 in the big games anyway

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            This.

          2. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Didn't Utd have a really poor record against last seasons top 5?

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              liv 0-0 + 1-1
              ars 1-1 + 2-0 loss
              mci 0-0 + 2-1 loss
              che 2-0 win + 4-0 loss
              spurs 1-0 win + 2-1 loss

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                10 pts from 30.....if Utd are to compete for title, they need to take more points off their rivals

          3. UnitedFan
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            This. Half the time we play the big boys, we're grinding it oit.

        2. Ludo
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          United don't play any of those teams until GW8...

      • FPL ZB
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Leicester going to play Vardy, Shinji, Slimani, Iheanacho, Ulloa and Deeney up top together next year?

        1. Holmes
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Sell Shinji and Slimani

          1. Holmes
            • 10 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            And Ulloa as well

        2. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Lol proposed signings bad news for Vardy? I was considering him for next season but am wary now and will change my mind if they spend big on a striker. Iheanacho would be extremely tempting though

        3. Waxys
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Iheanacho won't be going to Leicester

          1. FPL ZB
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            I think the fee has been agreed and it's almost a done deal?

        4. FPL ZB
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          and Musa. Christ.

      • Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Only thing I'm happy about Lukaku for is be can score from Pogba'a assists who I will have have in my team if he's playing CAM

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          As soon as matic is signed, we will all go mad for Pogba on here

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Will Chelsea sell Matic to Utd, if they beat them to Lukaku?

            1. Lovren an elevator
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Good point. Not sure how Chelsea will reposte to that one.
              Not sure if they rate/value matic that much anyway though, Once they have bakayoko and Kante, they shouldn't care where matic goes?

          2. Waxys
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yes Pogba needs to play CAM it's the position he's best at. I'm not sure if Matic is the best choice for a holding midfielder though. United need someone with grit like Roy Keane again

            1. Ramboros
              • 12 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              They just need a better Michael Carrick. Someone who balances the team and can distribute the ball from the deep. Matic is the right type.

            2. Lovren an elevator
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              100% agree. But I don't see who else is going to come in instead of him? Fabinho seems a ship that has already sailed.

              1. Waxys
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Fabinho would really fit united unfortunate if he doesn't sign.

                1. Lovren an elevator
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  This.
                  So that leaves matic....enjoy.....

            3. I Member
              • 8 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Pogba has barely ever played CAM and when he has he hasn't been very good. His best position is CM in a midfield three with license to push forward. Maybe not much of a difference but he definitely isn't a #10.

              1. Waxys
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Well he better learn then or he can forget about getting ij to my starting 11

                I don't think he'll lose any sleep over that however 😉

                1. I Member
                  • 8 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Why not just play 4-3-3? New DM, Herrera and Pogba in the middle. Very similar to a 4-2-3-1.

                  1. I Member
                    • 8 Years
                    6 years, 9 months ago

                    Pretty sure that's how United finished last season anyway. Herrera holding, Fellaini and Pogba in front of him.

                    1. Waxys
                      • 7 Years
                      6 years, 9 months ago

                      Herrera should be a CM not holding.

                      Fellaini had to be sold 3 seasons ago

      • Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        No I absolutely refuse to consider Trollkaku how dare he appeal to me again. After he's flopped for me every time I've bought him in.

        1. Piggs Boson
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          FPL will probably go nuts with his pricing anyway.

          Around 16.0m