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The Numbers Game – Watford

Our series of summer members’ articles continues this afternoon as we assess what’s on offer at the managerial merry-go-round that is Watford.

To begin with, we analyse the Hornets’ performances on a team level, checking out last season’s data in order to spot trends and areas of improvement. Following that, we take a look at the players to pinpoint their key individuals.

For this article, we also focus on new manager Marco Silva’s impact on his former club Hull City after an impressive stint at the KCOM Stadidum during the second half of 2016/17.

Watford parted company with Quique Sanchez Flores at the end of 2015/16, scoring 40 times on their way to finishing in thirteenth spot on 45 points.

Yet the now-departed Walter Mazzarri failed to improve upon those performances in his only season at the helm. The Vicarage Road outfit scored the same number of goals but picked up just 40 points, ending the campaign in seventeenth position.

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  1. amit1964
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    if trippier is missing games who sould i take?

    i have stones yoshida alexander and mee for the first 2 gw

    thank's

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Bertrand maybe.

      1. amit1964
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        so 2 from soton?

        1. Konstaapeli
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Yikes!

          1. amit1964
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            is it better option then davis?

            1. Konstaapeli
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Not sure tbh.

        2. RIDZ
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          i also have 2 from soton, yoshida & cedric

    2. DaddyBellay
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      If you can afford, Kolasinac is a fair option for +.5m.

      1. amit1964
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        i can do it by take yoshida to agazi and then take kolasinac

    3. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I have gone for Daniels

      1. amit1964
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        but to have kolasinac i have to go to 4.5

  2. aarrgghh
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    finally I found the ultimate cheap midfield rotation pair
    Carroll,Fraser
    wb,WAT,cp,NEW,BHA,WAT,LEI,HUD

    1. Chandler Bing
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Only if Fraser was nailed on

      1. Corona Macallan
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        He is

    2. aarrgghh
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Can¨t find any other way to fit Kane in

  3. Trigg ⭐️
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I see a lot of mids here that are perceived as 'weak' and getting a lot of stick from posters.

    But who is really standing out as an expensive midfielder?

    I appreciate Alli and Eriksen are good picks, but if you've got Kane, you're already investing a lot into Spurs attack.

    Similar for KDB if you have Aguero/Jesus.

    Pool mids are a lottery and Arsenal and Chelsea's expensive midfielders are crocked.

    Just who do the critics want us to put in our midfield?

    1. Oven Glover
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Sanchez of course

      1. Annie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Now though...

      2. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I'm not spending 12m on him until I know he starts.

        1. Oven Glover
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'm kidding. You're right. Good question. +1

    2. Konstaapeli
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Seen this also. It's impossible to have strong team in every department. You always have to compromise somewhere to get the few players you really want.

    3. Pep says
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I'm on
      2 players @ 19m, 7m, 5.5m and Carroll. Carroll is the only one I'm 100% on. The rest will most likely be in my gw1 squad as it's easy to upgrade/downgrade to anyone (with 0.5m itb) (excluding Sanchez) with just 1 move.

    4. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alli,Eriksen,KDB,Salah,Mane.Sanchez,Ozil

      All good choices and can get more than forwards.

      Your argument can be applied to cheap forwards. Rooney Chicharitto and Firmino may outscore Lukaku and if not the strong mids counters the loss

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        That wasn't my argument at all. It's that expensive mids aren't really available to us right now, and the ones that are aren't attractive options.

    5. The Neville Wears Prada
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Alli basically playing second striker, doesnt even matter if you have Kane.

      Jesus and Aguero could be dangerous since Pep is Pep

      I went with Firmino cause it's the cheapest route into a midfield that will share points and there are much better mid tier priced midfielders.

      We'll all get Hazard when he's back so we can wait on Chelsea (especially with their opening fixtures)

      If Sanchez stays, we will all rip our hairs out trying to get him in

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        A quarter of your budget on a team that might not score well in the first two weeks is a dangerous game.

        1. The Neville Wears Prada
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Kane and Alli are very easy to downgrade if that somehow happens

    6. firetog
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I have zaha from the mid price range and interested in Stanislas once he recovers

    7. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      This is my midfield 4 KDB Salah Eriksen Ince

    8. bojack
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I think it's more about price points. If you have say 9.0 7.0 6.0 5.5 then you're going to have do a bit of jiggling around if KDB emerges as option. If you have KDB on the other hand, easy to go down to a 9.5 of one emerged in amazing form.

      Probably overthinking.

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Currently I've got KDB as I fancy City to start strongly and he looked amazing last game.

        Then I've got 7.0 6.0 5.5 4.5

        Jesus, Kane and Luka up top, though.

    9. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Agree. It feels like it might be the year of the mid-budget priced midfielder, til things settle at least. I'm going with KDB only and then a 7.0, 6.0, 5.5. and 4.5.

      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Sounds like we have the same midfield. I won't kneejerk GW1 then I can always fix things with 2 FT.

  4. Pap Boomez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A. Cedric & Valencia

    Or

    B. Lindelof & Kompany

    ?

    1. RIDZ
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

      But I have Cedric + Lindeloff

    2. amit1964
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      a becouse lindelof not naild

    3. DaddyBellay
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Wow
      Third potion
      Stone and kola

      1. DaddyBellay
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        *option

  5. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    I have a feeling Giroud will rotate with Lacazette. Has to be a reason he is happy to stay.

    I theorised Lacazette may be pushed on the wing but with Sanchez and Ozil returning I just don't see that happening

    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      He will get sub appearances and be their Europa striker I imagine.

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Too risky for me had to get rid off Lacazette if Giroud is still an option and Sanchez doesn't leave

        1. sentz05
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Sanchez is staying. Lacazette is a terrible option because Giroud will come on most games for him. That was evident during yesterday's match.

  6. Little Frank
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    My latest incarnation:

    Foster | Elliot
    Trippier (Danilo if not fit) | Yoshida | Mee | Francis | Naughton
    KDB | Salah | RLC | Carroll | Mhiki or Pogba (depending on how they look in the Super Cup)
    Kane | Jesus | Firmino

    Any changes?

    1. The Neville Wears Prada
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No Kane or Alli.. bold move cotton

      1. Konstaapeli
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        There's Kane

        1. The Neville Wears Prada
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          I'm going blind. Never get old

          1. Konstaapeli
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Ok, I'll try my best!

  7. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hopefully final draft!
    How's it looking and any changes needed?

    De Gea
    Cedric Kompany Kolasanic Alonso
    Willian Eriksen Redmond
    Jesus Lukaku Firmino
    Elliot RLC Carroll Hünemeier

    1. RIDZ
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      wow, you have a really expensive defence
      good luck mate!

      1. Scotty B
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks glad you like it

    2. Konstaapeli
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Looks really good. 9/10

  8. Strchld
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Yoshida nailed?

    Zaha and Ritchie or Milijonevic and Pogba? Have Lukaku.

    1. RIDZ
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Zaha Ritchie,

      But I swap Ritchie to Atsu as he scored yesterday,

      1. Strchld
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Ritchie has pens.

    2. Punter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      If Mili is on pens that's a pretty nice option

    3. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Zaha Ritchie

  9. Punter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Morning, starting to fine tune here:

    A) Milivojevic + Phillips
    B) Redmond + Carroll

    Both 11m, any cheaper suggestions welcome too!

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

  10. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) Bailly and Eriksen
    B) Valencia and Salah
    Who do you like lads?

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B if you have Kane

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        I do have Kane

      2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers mate...

    2. RIDZ
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Ridz

    3. barracuda
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Do you own Kane? If yes then B

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers mate ... I do have Kane... but also have Firmino

        1. barracuda
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Do you have KDB?

          1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Yep

  11. Professor Abel X
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) Fraser JRod
    B) TCarroll Chicharito

    Both will start, and possibly rotate with a 4.5m defender

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      A

    2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Prof I don't like either striker atm.
      Fraser and Tammy or TC and Gabbi?

      1. Professor Abel X
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Interesting, I thought they might be the best of the budget 3rd striker options. Isn't Gabbi a bit risky with Austin about? Tammy an injury doubt but I could go with him if passed fit. What about Mounie?

        1. Corona Macallan
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Gabbi looks like starting

        2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          None are perfect but Gabbi started over the weekend and Tammy was only taken out as a precaution.
          Many like Mounie but I am holding off to see how promotion teams do gw1 before deciding who to take.

  12. The Tinkerman
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Forster
    Valencia, Kolasinac, Danilo, Cedric
    KDB, Eriksen, Willian
    Lukaku, Firmino, Vardy

    To get Kane I'd have to get a 5.5 mid in place of Eriksen. Think I prefer Firmino and Eriksen to that.

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Haven't seen Vardy in many drafts. Looks awesome if Cedric starts. Who's on bench?

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Best record against the top 6 of anyone last year, nailed, possibly on pens (definitely if Mahrez leaves)... and I'm a Leicester fan.

        Elliott, Tarroll, RLC, Long. Not fantastic.

        1. The Tinkerman
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Regardless of my bias Vardy could be great value at 8.5m this season, overpriced last season despite the teams poor form and his lack of opportunities

        2. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          But .... fixtures

          1. The Tinkerman
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Vardy had the best record against the top 6 of anyone last season despite Leicester's form.

        3. Konstaapeli
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          No need for spectacular bench. It's enough if two of them plays.

  13. kingsterko
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Batshuayi nailed after Morata miss penalty ?

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Morata is unlikely to start gw1 so yes

    2. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yep, so is Caballero

    3. Farke in hell
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      In the front line, i'd say only Pedro is properly nailed. Rest of them have a high risk of reduced minutes

  14. WolfTheJack
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Is Mata likely to start?

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No

  15. Konstaapeli
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    How's this looking? Any sound advices?

    Foster - (Elliot)
    Alonso - Kola - Daniels - (Mee - Humenier)
    KDB - Willian - Zaha - Ritchie - (Carroll)
    Lukaku - Jesus - Firmino

    Pretty happy with this now. Will no doubt hate it in two weeks time.

    1. Kun Tozser
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Can't fault it , no Kane but you can't have them all

      1. Konstaapeli
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers.

    2. The Neville Wears Prada
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Your team must be the one I saw with no Kane or Alli

      1. Konstaapeli
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        haha.

  16. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Sanchez or Countino could still buggar off. Countino safer pick as could easily be swapped for Mane or Salah

    1. Pep says
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Think Coutinho deal is done

    2. Kambo
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      what does this mean for Can? with Lallana out for the start of the season surely Can could be a decent option at 5mil

  17. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Foster (Elliot)
    Kolasinac BDavies Cedric Daniels (Mason)
    KDB Salah Willian (RLC, TCarroll)
    Kane Kaku Gabi

    1. What do you think about Gabi ?
    2. 433 can be a way to go ?

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      1 I think he will start
      2 Depends on the players u bring

  18. aleksios
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    RP.
    Good morning to all share your thoughts please here
    DGea
    Cedric-Alonso-Daniels-Dawson
    Fraser-KDB-Salah-Zaha
    Kane-Lukaku
    Elliot--Caroll--Hunem--Quaner
    a) stick with it
    b) DGea to 4,5mil Gk and Dawson to Kolac or Quaner to Abraham
    thanks all!!

  19. aarrgghh
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    What do you think,if Coutinho leaves,will Firmino drop deeper and Solanke starts as striker?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      No.

      Wijnaldum will replace him and Miller will start

      1. Kun Tozser
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Queue Klopp bigging up having Milner back in midfield is like a new signing

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Why is no one mentioning Emre Can? Popped up with a few goals and assists last time out and only 5.5

          1. Waxys
            • 7 Years
            6 years, 9 months ago

            Because for 1m extra you get Milner who gets a clean sheet bonus and on pens

            1. Rover
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 9 months ago

              Isn't Firmino competing for pens?

              1. Evil Greg
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                it's more of a hunch, but I think Firmino will continue to take them until he misses now.

                1. Waxys
                  • 7 Years
                  6 years, 9 months ago

                  Well that's not what Milner said

              2. Waxys
                • 7 Years
                6 years, 9 months ago

                Milner dismissed that and just he let him take it

  20. Pap Boomez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Any Man Utd defenders nailed on?

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Valencia and Bailey

  21. l@sp0
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    So if VVD is not going to Liverpool, is he staying at St. Mary's? Who will be dropped? Yoshida or Stephens? I reckon both are at risk...

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Think he's going somewhere... Chelski?

    2. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      If he goes to chelsea then Cahill wont get near first team

  22. klopp4kop
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    any news on the trippier injury? will he be missing GW1?

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Scan today.

  23. jam sandwich
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Dunk or Suttner?

  24. foreverton
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Fraser for Bournemouth?

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Yes no transfer rumors surrounding him

  25. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Ok with Coutinho gone to Barcelona. Milner has to be nailed on now as a midfielder while Lallana is injured

    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Can Henderson Wijnaldum could easily be the three

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Henderson isn't a starter anymore after his chronic injury.

        Klopp rates Milner over both those mids he is first choice 100%

  26. YayasCake
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Hi folks
    Any thoughts on weaknesses/improvements?

    Foster- Elliot
    Monreal - Bertrand - Bailly (Hunemeier - Mee)
    Zaha - Redmond - KDB - Willian (Loftus-Cheek)
    Lukaku - Kane - Chic

    0 ITB

    Bring on the game

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      I would save some money in defence and upgrade Redmond.

      1. YayasCake
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers IE, this was bugging me too

  27. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    If Barce sign Seri and Dembele, they shouldnt need Coutinho. Not even next season.

    1. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Coutinho will be inkesta's replacement. Dembele Neymar's

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        Who is Seri replacing then

        1. Waxys
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 9 months ago

          Squad player

  28. McNulty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Jesus and JWP

    Or

    Salah and Giabbadini?

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B

      1. Farke in hell
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        jj

    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      JJ

    3. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Jesus if you don't have kdb else gabbi n salah

  29. rnrd
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    Considering I Wont bdb playing him and am planning to wc before gw6, should I pick a random 4.0 rather than a highly owned 4.0 defender to avoid price drop if he happens not to play?

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Bobby de bruyne?

    2. Annie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      You answered your own question

    3. Kenneth Tang
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      Low ownership player will drop price as well, when a certain percentage of owners sell him.

      To Avoid price drop, the best way is not to buy (1) players you believe are being over-rated (2) players that only have a good chance to start but not certain.

      If not managing well, I'm afraid you need to WC before your planned gw6

  30. RIDZ
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 9 months ago

    A) Mustafi + Lindelof

    B) Kolasinac + 5.0 def (mention the def)

    I already have Cedric & Hegazi

    1. Corona Macallan
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 9 months ago

      B with Daniels/Ake

      1. Konstaapeli
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 9 months ago

        This, with Daniels.