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5 February 2011 2507 comments
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Now the gameweek begins and just like that the hulking Saturday Surgery regresses into it’s much less fearsome Bruce Bana-esque Dugout Discussion. Come in if you fancy, we’ve certainly got more than enough games to keep you interested.

We kick off with Stoke playing host to Sunderland this afternoon, a war of attrition looking likely. Tony Pulis recalls the likes of Matty Etherington and Long-throw Delap into his team while Steve Bruce looks like he might be following suit at Liverpool by countering Stoke’s aerial threat with three centre-halves. Sulley Muntari also makes his debut. Teams in full are…

Stoke XI: Begovic; Higginbotham, Wilkinson, Huth, Shawcross; Delap, Pennant, Whitehead, Etherington; Jones, Carew.

Sunderland XI: Gordon; Onuoha, Ferdinand, Mensah, Bramble (C), Bardsley; Richardson, Henderson, Muntari, Sessegnon; Gyan.

The heavy dose of Saturday football doesn’t end there as we then head on into six 3pm kick-offs and just about round out my Fantasy Premier League (FPL) gameweek before it even starts with ten of my eleven finished by 5pm – the likes of Man City vs West Brom, Everton vs Blackpool and Newcastle vs Arsenal are high on my agenda, who are you tracking?

Then we have Manchester United rounding us out as they pay visit to Mick McCarthy and his Premier League stragglers. Time to watch through my fingers.

The Dugout Discussion will be open through all eight of today’s games right up until the bonus judges hand out their bounty this evening. Stick with us.

Andy Leicester won the Premier League. Leicester. Premier League. What is this life? Follow them on Twitter

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  1. A-Team
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Phew, no clean sheet for Bardsley, fed up with him getting loads of points sitting on my bench. Cue 80th minute screamer from the defensive minded right back playing at left back...

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    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      +1

      Bardsley owners are too lucky. He's got no right to be scoring as well as he has been.

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  2. uʍopǝpısdn
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Replays look like it come off Gordons glove

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I don't think that Huth will lose it though, it isn't at all clear cut either way. Now they've given, I doubt it will be changed.

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      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, I pretty much think this too. Shame 🙁

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      2. Dave Bauer
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Could well do IMO, but obviously I hope not.

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    2. Fabregas88
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Huth’s head pushes Gordon’s groves and the ball down before Carew scored that goal… huth assist no doubt 🙂

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    3. Stat virgin
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      People are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too fussy over assists these days. It's f*cking annoying

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      1. AP
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        You speak the truth.

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  3. Dhubanmonkey
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    who is the best arsenal defender to have for one week only?

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Koscielny.

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      1. LeSagna
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        seconded

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    2. Dave Bauer
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Winterburn.

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    3. Baby Face Nelson
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      Djorou

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    4. AP
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Considering your gravatar - Martin Keown.

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  4. StinkinRich
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Newbie post....Finally got round to registering after reading the site for a year!! Always done well in last few years but like a lot of others im havin a shocker this time round....

    Dont need no RMT or anything like that (today anyway!) but just checking my link and avatar works.

    Hi all anyway!

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Welcome.

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    2. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Link works gravatar works.

      Hi!

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    3. Dave Bauer
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Welcome Rich, this site is awesome. Enjoy!

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    4. AP
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Another Chelsea fan, hopefully you'll be more like Si and less like the priest brothers 🙂

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        "Dont need no RMT"

        Certainly writes like a Chelsea fan.

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    5. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Howdy SR!

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  5. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Huth is really pissing me off!

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      me too

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      1. SuperDorrans
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        It's only an assist, grow a pair.

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        1. chinmusic
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Or draft him in. He should have scored in this game, too.

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        2. Dave Bauer
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          And he might not even keep it!

          Calm down dears.

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  6. dogtanion
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    That Xisco skit on Soccer AM was pretty hilarious

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  7. SuperDorrans
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Steve Bruce for Manager of the Year?

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Roy Hodgson's going for back-to-back titles...

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        If Fergie wins the league with that squad, he'll deserve it.

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          They should be in 5th.

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        2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://images.teamtalk.com/09/01/800x600/Australian-Open-Roger-Federer-backhand_1823647.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sportydesktops.com/Australian-Open-Roger-Federer-backhand/44028/&usg=__yCud9Tkp24rEHl-GFSbzAFokRkE=&h=600&w=800&sz=89&hl=en&start=32&zoom=1&tbnid=9E9wM_tUiuH0yM:&tbnh=118&tbnw=167&ei=41JNTdTnB4uwhQfR1YXsDg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbackhand%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D998%26bih%3D424%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=379&oei=2FJNTfBD0JmFB96hgLUO&esq=4&page=4&ndsp=11&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:32&tx=115&ty=81

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        3. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          The manager that wins the league should always get manager of the year.

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          1. Damo.
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            +1 but Carlo's not English so was never gonna get it.

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          2. 1966 was a great year for E…
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Usually, but I think Redknapp had a good shout last year, getting Spurs into Europe. I think he did win the PL manager of the year, and Hodgson won the LMA one (which also counts Europe).

            Not that I think Redknapp is a great manager, but he had a great year.

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  8. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Pennant, you dipstick.

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  9. Ollie
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    I can't get used to Sky football without Andy Gray commentary. It's just not right!

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    1. dogtanion
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      +1. There was something comforting about him...you felt safe.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Keys, however, will not be missed, utter cock.

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      2. Art Vandelay
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Unless you were Georgie Thompson.

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          heheh

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        2. JWF
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          It was Charlotte Jackson

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            whatever

            they're all f*cking fit

            and know about football

            i want to penetrate them

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            1. _Greg
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              yessss blergh blergh!!!

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    2. ShadyGooner
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      +1

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    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      It better without him, it really is. He got on my wick, he really did. Glad he's gone, I really am!

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    4. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I never really liked him anyway

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      1. Ollie
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I never liked him either. I liked his commentary though, that's all that mattered.

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      2. Bad Seed
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I'm abroad so no sky sports. Who's presenting in Keys' place? I would rate the appointment of Jeff Stelling to the post

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  10. Lew
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    At least Andy Gray is still on betfair.

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  11. RD
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    how to get a gravattar???

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      FAQ!

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    2. ShadyGooner
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      FAQ off!

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    3. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      "How do I get a picture next to my name when I post a comment?
      Head on over to http://www.gravatar.com and register for an account (make sure you register with the same email as the one you are registered with here). Choose an image, and this will be associated with all of your comments on site. Your gravatar image should appear next to your comments within roughly 24 hours."

      FAQs = actually pretty useful 🙂

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  12. jamsiep
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Definitely comes off Shawcross. I don't even think Huth touches it.

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    1. Locarno
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      He doesn't touch it. Gordon's glove.

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    2. Dave Bauer
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I agree.

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    3. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I like this.

      Complaint ready to be sent. bonkers will love it.

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I'll send an email too.

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          already done one

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          1. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            good lad me too.

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    4. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Sack The Board strikes lucky yet again with transferring in Shawcross this week.

      Jammy c*nt!

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      1. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Genius more like.

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      2. AP
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Do you call him Sack the Board at home too?

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Yes, why?

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          1. AP
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Just curious.

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    5. chinmusic
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      It brushes him, sure, but from many angles it looks like Huth wins the header. It won't get changed.

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      1. Dave Bauer
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        It will. I'll bet you a virtually tenner.

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        1. Dave Bauer
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          *virtual

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        2. chinmusic
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          You're on. If they wouldn't scratch Seamus's, they won't scratch that one. If they actually gave a shit about getting things right, then I'd be less confident. But they're more concerned with trying not to change their points awards.

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    6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Are you sure, jamsiep?

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    7. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Nah saw it from another angle.

      Huth definitely heads it on, but it might just have hit Shawcross's arm.

      I think it'll stay as an assist, unfortunately.

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      1. chinmusic
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        There's no way in the world Shawcross is getting that assist. The ball brushes his arm and doesn't change direction.

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        1. andy85wsm
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          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          So you're saying it touches Shawcross last? Assist then.

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          1. chinmusic
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Not that simple. Last season Cuellar got the last faint touch on a Young corner before someone else scored. It ended up as a Young assist. Also Anelka got the last faint touch on a Terry header, which should have made it a Terry assist and an Anelka goal. Terry got the goal.

            There's no simple rule that says last touch by the attacking team's player equals an assist.

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        2. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Sounds like an assist to me mate. Last Stoke player to touch the ball is Shawcross, hence assist.

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          1. chinmusic
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            See above.

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            1. Hated, Adored but never Ign…
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              but earlier this season, Ashley Young got the faintest of touches on an Albrighton cross and he got the assist, so I hope the CORRECT decision is made.

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              1. chinmusic
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                He changed the direction of the ball noticeably though, right? Shawcross just accidentally handballs it without seeming to change the direction.

                The right decision has been made. Huth heads to Carew, Carew scores. Huth's assist.

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      2. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        It rolls down after hitting Huth/Gordon and definitely comes off Shawcross' chest/arm.

        100% a Shawcross assist. The final angle on Sky made it completely obvious.

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        1. Stat virgin
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          An assist shouldn't be only detectable by watching 100 different angle replays in 0.001x speed to see if it shaves an atom off a players shoelace and changes the direction a millinoth of a degree. Huth won the header, it fell to Carew, who scored. It should be a Huth assist

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          1. chinmusic
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            +lots

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          2. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Do I even need to look at your team after that comment?

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            1. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Well I did, and you don't even have Huth. 😳

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    8. uʍopǝpısdn
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      What their email?

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        The Premier League will not enter into correspondence relating to such matters and its decision as to any matter arising out of or in connection with the Game Rules including but not limited to the allocation of points to any Player and/or the award of any Prize and/or any ranking or league table shall be final and conclusive@hotmail.com

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        1. SuperDorrans
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Getalife@hotmail.com

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          1. uʍopǝpısdn
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Coming from someone who is constantly on here? Pot & kettle comes to mind.

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            1. Secret Agent Torres : Carry…
              • 15 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Hahahaha, well said upsidedown.

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  13. Bigo1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Its a ShawX assist

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  14. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Comes off Shawcross, that sucks.

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  15. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    It's a Carew goal. That's all that matters.

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  16. Im Not Marshal Foch
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Thing with the Assist is.. Huth heads it, it brushes Shawcross's hand. IF they give it to Shawcross they are basically saying that Shawcross hand balled it. I don't think the press association will undermine the ref by doing that.

    to conclude I think Huth will keep it

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      F*ck that! Do you really think that FPL give a shit about 'undermining the ref'?!

      In that case, do you think that they'll delete Carew's goal too? Or else it might embarrass Probert?

      Ridiculous comment Foch.

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      1. chinmusic
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        They also don't give a shit about getting things right.

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      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        He's not Foch.

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      3. Im Not Marshal Foch
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        the difference is the goals given so the press association aren't going to "delete" a goal are they? moron

        but if they give it to Shawcross they are basically saying that he handballed it.. i don't think they'd do that..

        ridiculous response jammy

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          But FPL can change things after looking at them, even if the Press Association don't change it themselves.

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          1. Im Not Marshal Foch
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            only really happens on things like assists from posts/saves/penalties where the FPL rules give additional assists

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            1. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Well after I've sent them 17 emails they may reconsider. 😉

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      4. Podge
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        -1

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      5. Podge
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Nothing to do with the FPL Jamsiep, he said the press association, they certainly do care about rocking the boat.

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  17. SuperDorrans
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Huth will get the assist.

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  18. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    http://www.redcafe.net/f8/hottest-football-programme-presenter-planet-101699/

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Holy F*ck!

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    2. Im Not Marshal Foch
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Jaw drops

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    3. AP
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      "redcafe.net"

      😯

      Beats Gabby Logan anyway.

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    4. Stat virgin
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Ugh, look at her upper right incisor, completely out of place. Munter

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    5. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      F*ck me!

      No seriously, do f*ck me. Pretty please?

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    6. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      don't like that dress at all

      looks like a torn rag

      if an engllish girl was wearing that you'd all be calling her a slag

      i prefer girls to cover up a little bit more, bit more classy

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      1. Alchi-traz
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Bender

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://img.listal.com/image/237874/600full-futurama%253A-bender%27s-big-score-screenshot.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.listal.com/viewimage/237874&h=315&w=560&sz=130&tbnid=4eMwvTunLsHFOM:&tbnh=75&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbender%2Bfuturama&zoom=1&q=bender+futurama&usg=___DfOtR4TuTbFaobNDokifRF_9AE=&sa=X&ei=cFhNTdGdN42EhQfy_qXMDg&ved=0CDIQ9QEwBQ

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      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        If she's a slag, even better, surely?

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    7. JWF
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Whoever's in charge of the wardrobe on that show needs a kick up the backside. You can clearly see the tape that is holding the dress onto her boobs. If you're going to use the tape make sure you can't see it... better still don't use any tape 🙂

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  19. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    OK, wildcard now in play folks!

    Fist point of business, bringing in Begovic, Kelly, Nolan, Djourou, Bardsley and Van Persie. All look like they'll rise tonight so may be on my way to earning some money.

    Lovely.

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    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Good luck with it nomar.

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  20. Blue Teets
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Afternoon Chaps, I just joined paddy power, not an effin' clue about bettin all I know is a United CS is easy money today.

    Any advices I'd appreciate. Ta

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Dont waste your money mate! You will become Paddy Powers best customer!

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    2. Damo.
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      What kind of advice man? Like scorecast and sh!t

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Football betting (in the left-hand column) > football matches > Premier League > scroll down to Wolves v Man U, click on 'more bets' > match specials (click 'show'). Then bet on Wolves to score no goals, 10/11.

      There might be a quicker way...

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  21. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Gyan scores.

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  22. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Huth you big big big big big moron

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    1. David Davros
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Terrible defending!!

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        He is a terrible defender, like Shawcross.

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  23. Shakey
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    urgh Stoke's defence sucks.

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    1. AP
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      non shocker.

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  24. Declan
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Damn you Stoke!

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  25. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Huth skinned. No BPs for him.

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  26. Ollie
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Huth just got another assist 🙂

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  27. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    lol @ Huth. No BPs at least!

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    1. _Greg
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      huth>higgy on wc?

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  28. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Urgh. President AsmirBegović you suck!

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      +1

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  29. David Davros
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    I'm a big fan of Gyan. Might get him in when Sunderland's fixtures ease up a bit.

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  30. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    And people laughed at me for not using my free transfer this week on taking out Kingson for Begovic.

    Knew it could wait til I wildcarded.

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    1. Declan
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      How many will Kingson concede today? My guess is 3-4!

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    2. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Did they really laugh at you?

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