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Tonight’s Dugout Discussion action is sponsored by loneliness and/or being disenfranchised. While lovers up and down the country are going out for fancy meals, popping the question or buying that last minute bouquet at the petrol station, all we need to remember is we’ve got another game of football in store.

The lovers don’t have a monopoly on romance though, as the likes of David Luiz will be dressed to impress in his first start for Chelsea, while Steve Sidwell is on the prowl for more bait. Yossi Benayoun is left crying in the stands at his own Valentine loneliness, he’s also injured. Tonight’s full teams follow, the headline news is that Drogba is on the bench…

Fulham: Schwarzer; Baird, Hughes, Hangeland, Salcido; Duff, Murphy, Sidwell, Dempsey; Dembele, Johnson.

Chelsea: Cech; Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry, Cole; Essien, Ramires, Lampard; Malouda, Torres, Anelka

The Dugout Dicussion will be open as per usual for all of the evening’s action. Fingers crossed for a drab 1-1 own goal based affair and roll on the double Gameweek – starting tomorrow.

Andy Leicester won the Premier League. Leicester. Premier League. What is this life? Follow them on Twitter

  1. The Dynamo
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Either they should remove bonuses next year or award bonus points to only MOTM. Bonus giving standards are consistently inconsistent and really take fun out of this game.

    Also 2 points penalty is just ridiculous for a penalty miss. Then u should penalize those who miss sitters.

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    1. dierstraights
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      it is a 7 point swing tho. 5 if you score, -2 if you miss
      i think its too much actually

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      1. Mr. Tambourine Man
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Especially when it's your captain. I had that swing for VDV last week, that's a big swing.

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Ok. Make it fairer then. Only 3 pts for a goal from a pen instead of 5? Now the miss isn't so costly.

      Wouldn't like that though, would you, as you'd get less points for him scoring?

      You have to take the rough with the smooth with pen takers.

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      1. Mr. Tambourine Man
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Why not just give the points for scoring a goal, whether it's from open play or a penalty, and just scrap the minus points for missing it?

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        1. AriseSirGiggsy
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Agree With Nomar - should be 3pts for oen goal, 2 pts pen asist (fouled player, crosser causing handball, etc)

          Scrap the minus for missing. It sucks.

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            -1

            Rsik you take when picking penalty takers. What i want scrapped is the minus points for own goals. 90% are unavoidable and have zero blame attached. They should award those negative points to players who give away penalties (whether converted or not). There is almost always blame attached when a pen is given away

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  2. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    fpl's best defender this season? vidic, baines, cashley, john terry. best ppg in the league

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    1. bossa
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Too expensive imo.

      IMO no defender is worth more than 6 this season.

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      1. SuperDorrans
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        The most expensive defender I've had all season is Evra, I got him a couple of weeks ago and kept him for about 2 weeks. Alex & Toure I've also had.

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        1. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Still keeping Vidic. 7m isn't that expensive for a defender who is a set piece goal threat. Had Ivanovic too before I stupidly sold him. Baines too, but that was going too far.

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          1. Mr. Tambourine Man
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            I think with those guys you either get lucky or you don't. I had Cole for ages and ages, and got little back, especially for the money. When you look at how else you could use the money in your team, I think they're rarely worth keeping over a cheaper alternative.

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      2. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, this is why I went for Coleman instead of Baines when I played my WC. £7.5m is too much for a def this season.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Not worried about Coleman getting dropped? I didn't see the game against the noblots but i saw he was subbed off early

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          1. SuperDorrans
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Yeah, he isn't great to be honest.

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        2. Granville
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          I swapped him in my wildcard for Coleman. Don't know why, not convinced Everton will get a clean sheet again this year.

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          1. Nomar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Coleman has come off quite a few times this season after an hour or so. Hasn't stopped him from starting.

            He can easily be replaced by Djourou after GW29 if needs be anyway.

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              He's played at least 75 minutes in every game since November sometime

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  3. teddy.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Right then. Screw Valentine's night I've got European fantasy games to attend to!

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    1. Damo.
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      *discreetly stroking the screen.

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      1. Johnny Unitas
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        don't bother Teddy, it will be fine.....

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        1. DickFranDyke
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Just finished mine after 2 hours hard work teddy. Have a good night preparing. 🙂

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          1. teddy.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            I've signed up to the Telegraph CL game too, so now I have 3 CL games to worry about: Telegraph, Metro & UEFA.

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            1. DickFranDyke
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Just the one for me thank god. Are Metro messing up the CL one just like they are with the Premiership one?

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              1. teddy.
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                There's 2 hours I'll never see again.

                Ah well, time flies when you're tinkering.

                I haven't been paying too much attention to the Metro CL game, but they haven't had reschedules and dgws to make a mess of.

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  4. The Arsene-ist
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Need to get rid of malouda and elmo due to their inevitable price drop, who shall I get

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  5. Jordan.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    nice clean sheet cole ,i had u for ten weeks ,nothing,skinny t*at

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  6. MikeyMitz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    FPL bonus is officially a joke! What on earth? Fulham barely had the ball all game, and dempsey is rewarded for his penalty miss with 3 BONUS?! And Duff, what has he done all game? Luiz was far and above MOTM, and nothing! And Man U vs Man City, Nani with no bonus? Absolutely ridiculous, he was given MOTM in nearly every English report of the game, and 0 bonus? What is the point?!

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    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      So I take it you didn't get any points?

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      1. MikeyMitz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I got plenty of bonus this week, with VDV, Adam, and some others, and I wasn't looking to get any from Chelsea Fulham. I am just baffled as to how Dempsey received 3 bonus, and Duff 2, David Luiz 0. And Nani getting none was a disgrace. I just don't get what bonus means any more

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        1. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          When did VdV get bonus points this weekend?

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          1. MikeyMitz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            RVP**. Thanks for spotting my gaff, all those dutchies got me confused with their abbreviations

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        2. Bob.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          there should be some sort of a system.. where we can all see why bps were given and how they were allocated to certain players! I.e. Successfull dribbles, pass completion, tackles won,etc. I dont know what they base their decisions on ?!

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          1. MikeyMitz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            I like that, reasoning behind bonus points, as explained by the judges. We should write to them to have this included!

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    2. Bob.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I agree! The bps can sometimes be puzzling indeed! I remember stoke had a 0-0 draw in some game last season and their 2 strikers got all the bps

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  7. PanTanti
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    anyone kind enough to share their ucl team?? 🙂

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  8. Cheggers
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    rmclwt -

    Cech,
    Arbeloa, Rakitsky, Navarro
    Fat Frank, Vingaard, Nani, VDV
    Messi, Ronaldo, Totti

    Any advice?

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    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Wish I could help but I don't know the situations of half the players in your team or their fixtures as I haven't done my own team yet.

      This is a useless post. Good luck and good night.

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        All I know is...

        VDV, Nani, Messi, Ronaldo, Fat Frank 🙂

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        1. DickFranDyke
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Not too big on world footy eh Cheggars. 😉 Get VDV our for a start.

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Totti is sheeite this season, stay away!!

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            1. Cheggers
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              no im really not.

              Any recommended changes will be made.....

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              1. DickFranDyke
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Navarro is a bit in and out for me at Valencia. Probably better options but depends on your funds.

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                1. Cheggers
                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  Got an extra 1 million. Who?
                  Will bring Boridello in for Totti.

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            2. DickFranDyke
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Agreed, Totti is now offically past it, prefer Borriello myself.

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  9. Ini
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Bonus points are an integral part of the game but I realize I shouldn't count on bonus points for any player, except for the likes of Adam, Ferguson or Fabs. It's too much of a bloody headache..

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    1. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I completely agree... game was a lot more boring before boners

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        infact for a while im sure there was 3 and that was it? (i.e. no 1 and 2)

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Yep, used to just be 3 points for MOTM. That was even more frustrating...

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          1. MikeyMitz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            I think Bonus are useful, I play the UCL fantasy with no bonus and it's harder to make up ground or distance yourself from opponents etc. But the Bonus are being so poorly awarded, and they are WIDELY regarded as being poorly awarded. I don't get what constitutes bonus any more

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            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              +1

              Would be a much more boring place without BPs!!!

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    2. Mr. Tambourine Man
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Well even Fabs has lost out to Robin recently hasn't he.

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Whatever happens, goals are the surest way to BP's, followed by touches, followed by the surname Eagles.

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        1. Romford Pele - Don't w…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Imagine an 'Adam Eagles'. Bonus Point hoover

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        2. Mr. Tambourine Man
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          True, if Cesc finds a goal again it should bring the BPs back. Although there was Nani of course, goal, assist, no baps, but that should be an anomaly.

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        3. Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Didn't work for Nani this week.

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    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Add Tevez and Van Persie to that list.

      Then there are the likes of R. Johnson, Huth, G. Cahill, Vidic (The big centre halves) who also pick up bonus.

      Getting bonus gatherers is a legit way to play the game, and actually, one that I try to follow as much as form and fixtures allow.

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    4. Ini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I was surprised that Nani didn't get any initially, but then I didn't get all hyped about it. I realized that its inconsistent and we just have to live with it. I see bonus points as it is....a bonus.

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  10. The Laughing Man
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Anyone gonna take a punt on Andy Carroll when he gets back (if he gets back)?

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    1. Mr. Tambourine Man
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I'm really sorry to not have him in my team anymore, I really enjoyed playing him and being delighted by all those points and goals. But no, wild guess I know, but I think he may struggle under the pressure. That price tag is a massive burden to bear for a young man. He thrived with little expectation on him, but could now buckle. I hope I'm wrong, if nothing else for the national team's sake.

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    2. La Flama Blanca
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I'm eagerly awaiting for his fitness since I had him earlier. But I'll give him a week or two once ready. Til then I'll suffer with Wingie and maybe go Sturridge in the meantime.

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      1. The Laughing Man
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I saw pictures of him training today and giving thumbs up to some kids, so hopefully thats a good sign.

        Regarding pressure, I think he was under alot of pressure with the toons as well, a different kind mind ya but pressure non the less. Only time will tell but one thing forsure is, he plays way different than Torres, so no matter what, things should be interesting to watch.

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  11. Morrissey1986
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    However bad this 3 point bonus is for Dempsey the Bonus judge that gave 2 point bonus I think it was to Howard after making no saves was the stupidest one ever.

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      That was clearly an admin error, given to the wrong keeper

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah i think that was Jason Brown in one of the Blackburn matches. He was the sub keeper and somehow managed to get 2 BPs (although it didn't take long for them to change it)

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    2. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      that was the birm game as I recall when Hart made a string of remarkable saves to keep Everton out and Howard made one contribution - to pick the ball out his net once.

      The scars run deep. To be fair the BP judges have repaid me and are nicely predictable when it comes to my regular Adam 3pts and my reg Ferguson 3pt when I had him for most of last season and a bit of this one.

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  12. PanTanti
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    RMUCLT pleas:

    Abbiati VDS
    Thiago Silva Mathieu Rat Vidic Bosingwa
    Douglas Costa Xavi Costa(VAL) Nani Vingaard
    Messi Pedro Ibra

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      8/10

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Mine...
        Abbiati/VDS
        Antonsson/Srna/Rafael/Bosingwa/D.Navarro
        Nani/Lampard/Stepanenko/Vingaard/Kluge
        Ronaldo/Messi/Eto'o

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        1. PanTanti
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          i wish i could get both ronaldo and messi but then my midfied will be sooo loose,, i mean ur midfield is not too strong is it?

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Its ok...ish!
            Ill prob end up with a 4-3-3

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  13. Trilogist
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    2 Free Transfers this week.

    How does

    Campbell > Tevez
    Fabs > Walcott
    VDV > Cahill.

    Sound?

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    1. Trilogist
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Anyone?

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      1. Bob.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Looks okay to me! Im gonna be doing something similar I think but Nasri or Young instead of Wallcott

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        1. Silva is Gold.
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Surely no point taking a hit for fabs to walcott with no fixture... or am i missing something here...

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Nope.
      Walcott will be rotated out and VDV is playing tomorrow!

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  14. Noon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Don't know if this has been discussed already, but how does the average go up by 8 points?

    The only play that got more than 8 was Cech but he is owned by only 9% of teams. Implies that a huge proportion of players had two Chelsea/Fulham defenders in their teams tonight.

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I think you may have answered your own question ...

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    2. DickFranDyke
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Dempsey, Torres, Cole,Terry, Drogba all have good ownership too and 2m dead teams out there.

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      1. Noon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Torres and Drogba didn't get enough points to push the average up by 8. Clearly nobody had both Schwarzer and Cech playing (the two highest points scorers tonight). Doesn't add up.

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        1. DickFranDyke
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          They all add up though and with a lot of dead teams probably holding a couple of Chelsea defenders.

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    3. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I've barely fallen though. Must be that a lot of the casual players have Dempsey as well as Chelsea/Fulham defenders.

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      1. Noon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Could be that yesterday's average was reported incorrectly. In fact that would make sense, because frankly it did seem on the low side. There is no mathematical way that tonight's game could have pushed up the average by 8 points.

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      2. DickFranDyke
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        You're still too high up overall jamie for it to have an impact but give it time. 😛

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    4. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      All you needed to have was a combination of one Chelsea or Fulham defender and mid and you pretty much got yourself 9 pts.

      That would bump up the average and I suspect a large portion of teams had that set of players in their teams this week.

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  15. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Can this be right? According to the Opta Stats here, Lampard has only competed in two aerial duels all season. He lost them both fwiw.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Too fat to jump??

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  16. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    I think the aim of bonus points is to reward players who while seriously impacting on the game, don't see reward in terms on points - which I like.
    However, too often the choices are either for the goalscorers and assisters anyway, or are somewhat arbitrary.

    SOLUTION FOR 2011/2012: Have a team of expert journalists (Henry Winter, Phil McNulty, Colin Murray etc) whose job it is to award bonus points and write a quick couple of paragrpahs about the game justifying their choices. This would feel more justifiable to FPL players, whilst giving opportunity to include unsung heroes.

    Thank You, you#re welcome.

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      "Henry Winter, Phil McNulty, Colin Murray"

      Lulz, I like it.

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      1. DickFranDyke
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Bill Murray could do better.

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        1. AriseSirGiggsy
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          lol, alright, but u catch my drift

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      2. njfsdkffslkf
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Thats one of the funniest things ive ever seen on here 🙂

        Could you imagine if Henry Winter gave bonus points.

        Adam Johnson - 3bps 0min

        Loved his story today, his memory of Ronaldo was doing an interview with him and messing up the subsequent report. As per usual. Nice to see him actually write it himself. Comedy gold.

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Jack Rodwell - 4 BPs.

          At least he's not still talking about how Beckham should be in the England side because some England fans in Denmark said so. 😛

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          1. Voyeur
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            There are some clueless idiots about. But at least Winter pays attention to what fans say - he's one of the few that doesn't just ignore us all.

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            1. njfsdkffslkf
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Thats one of the worse things about Winter and his pedalling of what fans think.

              SO what if Joe from Brighton thinks Beckham should be in the team. Joe probably hasnt watched much American football to notice whether he should or not. Capello is the only one getting paid to do so and thinks he shouldnt and more so knowns what he is talking about.

              And yet Winter passes it off as some form of Journalism. He could have jst maybe done his job and reported why certain players arent being picked by Capello - but he would rather keep favour with fans.

              Its all about his reading figures rather objective analysis.

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  17. Romford Pele - Don't w…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Luiz catch anyone's eye tonight? where was he supposed to be playing anyway? CB/free role??

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    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      cb first half rb second half. dempsey drifts so far inside that ancelotti just gave luiz the freedom to roam from rb. amazingly his hair didn't catch the eye of the binus judges

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  18. Voronin
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Dempsey 3 baps? Deserved?

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      No.

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Apparently not!

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    3. Voronin
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Bloody annoying if that costs me my H2H.

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  19. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Damn it! Red arrow for the week now!!
    100 places down.
    Hoping that not many have lots of dgw players??

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    1. Voyeur
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I suspect anyone overtaking you tonight is likely to be below you again soon, if you've got 8+ DGW players

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  20. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Went down 3 places.

    I guess not many people in the top 100 have Chelsea or Fulham any more...

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      even if they did, you wouldnt go down/up that much as your so high overall anyway

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      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I would go down quite a few places if it was an Arsenal game and I didn't have any of their players! I'd be out of the top 250 I think.

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          true

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    2. Voyeur
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Down 13,636 for me. An awful first 24 gameweeks...

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  21. Voyeur
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Why the ongoing ranting about "Bonus Point judges"?

    Given the stats are directly taken from PA, isn't it fair to believe the bonus come from this source too? If they're being given out by an entry-level journo / data entry guy entering data for every event through the 90 mins, surely many will go to the players involved a lot (eg Adam, Fab, Ferguson) or those doing amazing/important things (Rooney v Man City).
    If I was in their shoes, I'd avoid giving them to players I didn't like (maybe the guy at Manc derby wasn't a Nani fan)
    Can someone please get a job at the PA to confirm.

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    1. Voronin
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      PA?

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      1. Babytigrrr
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Phutball Association

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        1. DickFranDyke
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Pretentious arses?

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      2. Voyeur
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Press Association

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    2. njfsdkffslkf
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      If i were to try to make an informed guess (pretty impossible really) on who is involved in some of the Bps if there are so called experts rather than some random dude at fpl towers then id bet its an ex english pro and or current journo giving the obvious favouring of certain players outside of opta stats

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      1. Voyeur
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I doubt they'd pay anyone to do it! Add it into the PA requirements for each match and it's effectively cost-free

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          I wouldnt think they are paying someone.

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          1. Voyeur
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            so "id bet its an ex english pro and or current journo" - but doing it for free? Football, for free? In England in 2011??!!

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            1. njfsdkffslkf
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              If they are working for a paper reporting on a game handing over a list of players names who they believe have played well is already part of their job.

              Its all speculation anyway.

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    3. Babytigrrr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      I love the randomness of BP's...

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        why ?

        nobody else does

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        1. Babytigrrr
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Because I just DO!!!

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          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Wtf does FFL stand for?

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            1. Cheggers
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Fantasy Football League

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              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                What is that?

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            2. Babytigrrr
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              French Foreign Legion... Go Join! 😉

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              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                They have players?

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              2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Been there done that got the T-shirt ...

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      2. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        +1. keeps the likes of boselli on their toes

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      3. njfsdkffslkf
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Its not that random.

        - Players who play well - Tevez, Fabs, Vidic, etc
        - The passers Adam,Ferguson, Fabs,
        - The bias towards certain english players irrespective of performance

        - Then the randoms

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        1. DickFranDyke
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          I like your dig at Rooney in point 3.

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          1. njfsdkffslkf
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Milner, Johnson, Eagles etc 😉

            Jaime Rekknappesque bonus points in the United game to quote Jamie "if he keeps putting in those sort of performances (which ones the running around all day ones while doing very little in general play?)he will go down here as one of the all time greats. "

            Bias towards certain players in football is bloody annoying. Berbatovs hat trick V Liverpool was a better overall performance and as important and nothing like that was said - im even pretty sure some people in the media said he was only then justifying wearing the jersey.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Blimey, you're still banging on ... 😉

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              1. njfsdkffslkf
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Still waiting for Nani to be deemed as good as certain players on Sky. 😉

                I wont rest MMW 😛

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  • 16 Years
                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  You could try and give us a rest, though ... 😛

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                  1. njfsdkffslkf
                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    Duly noted 🙂

                    *puts down axe, turns off grinding machine, conforms 😉

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                  2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                    • 16 Years
                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    I think you're great, really! 😉

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        2. Babytigrrr
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          This guy tried to analyse it back in 2009 - not far off I'd say..
          http://alturl.com/7ndhs

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            'in a head to head contest between, say, Ashley Young and El-Hadj Diouf the points might go to the Englishman based on some underlying bias'

            Good

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        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Flogging, horse, dead.

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      4. Voyeur
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        +1 - but I also like the predictability of them too

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  22. Cunning Lingerers
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    What are folks thoughts on Rafael making a couple of/any starts in the next game week. I've done my free sub this week and I'm worried that I may and up with a blank space if he remains on the bench.

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    1. Voyeur
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      + Begovic

      Not sure either are worth a hit to cover them, unless you believe they're dropped long-term?

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Keep both.

        Rafael will be back O'Sh1te was terrible at the weekend

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  23. More Cowbell
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Noo...my 3 place green arrow is now a 20-odd place red arrow. These doubles can't come quick enough!

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  24. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    ahh the guy top of my money league has cech and gary cahill to come off his bench. not the best 2 ays

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      could be worse

      you could be single on valentines day

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      1. Cheggers
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        he cant be that good if hes got Cech.

        Chin up old boy

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      2. greghammer95
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Just thinking about that. I haven't been single on valentines day for the past 3 years 🙂 Three different girls as well. Chick magnet 😉

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          No gives a flying f*ck.

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          1. IAmTheWalrus
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            that is impressive, i always thought mystic greg batted for the other team!

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            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              😆

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        2. Babytigrrr
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          You seriously call girls 'chicks' 🙄

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            Father of a certain generation 😎

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            1. Babytigrrr
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              15 years, 2 months ago

              Just polishing off a nice glass of JP Chenet - love that crooked bottle!

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                15 years, 2 months ago

                Judging by my reaction to their rose on Saturday, your head might be in the same shape tomorrow!!! Try the Co-Op's Valpolicella next time! 😉

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  25. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Robinson
    R. Johnson Cahill Huth
    N'Zogbia Fabregas Ferguson Parker Adam
    Tevez Berbatov

    The 'dream team' based entirely on bonus points this season. Obviously someone has to get the BPs in the games involving the likes of Blackpool and Wigan, but it's quite amusing just how rubbish that side is - obviously Fabregas, Tevez and Berbatov aside.

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    1. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Did not realise how many boners Ferguson had...

      Feels a lot less than last season;

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      1. DickFranDyke
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        I don't think I want to know how you feel about Ferguson's boners.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          However many boners he has, he still won't score, sadly ... 😉

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    2. njfsdkffslkf
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      And that team is miles from what People would consider the best 11 players.
      And only 35% English - despite none of the players being in a team in the 10 - bar Cahill which stats show are better when he doesnt play.

      You couldnt make it up. Infact 7/11 are in or are close to the relegation battle

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Doesn't that suggest that on the 'weaker' teams there is a larger distinction between the better and not-so-good players ... resulting in the same player often gettings the BPs?

        And the 'top teams' are full of game-changers, etc. and so are more likely to have BPs spread about a bit?

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        1. njfsdkffslkf
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          I would say its more the opposite.
          Game changers, the real top quality match winners are very rare. The type who will always turn a game - Nani, Fabs, Tevez, VDV,

          At lower level the standard is more even with alot of journey men type players not able to be game changes. You would think with less goals, assists, top performances in lower levels this would be seen in bps (obviously there are some exceptions where what you say is true -( adam, nzogbia)

          But the other players in the with the lower are no better than their team mates nor are their performances.

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          1. King Eric, in America
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            You've got a point, of course. Just trying to work out that top 11 ...

            Seems United, for example, have: Nani, Rooney, Berbs, Giggs, Vidic to realistically share BP spoils in any given game.

            Whereas, as you mention, Adam and Nzog seems to have less competition. Baines, Parker, etc. seem to fit, too.

            Mind you, I think it's totally off-kilter sometimes, too. Makes the game more fun, IMO.

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  26. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Current Millionaire Club safety score is 45.

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    1. greghammer95
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Will probably end up about 60 won't it? Think I'm safe... How does it end?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Probably more than 60 with the doublers & autosubs. Have only seen a 47 in the table so everyone will probably survive the week.

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Just noticed the wheels are starting to come off in the FFS H2H for you.

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        1. greghammer95
          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          Yep, At the start of the season my rival was doing crap/I was doing well. Now he is doing well so I am more bothered about him. I should still get promoted though. A goal from Fabs and/or blanks from Odem and Djourou and I should win this week. Gone down hill of late though 🙁

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  27. greghammer95
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    Could you imagine they scrapped the FPL game. I know barclays have to run it... la de la de da etc. etc.

    But... It is just unthinkable.

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  28. Clintymints
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    dropped 403 places nooooooooooooo

    can't wait to shoot back up next week

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Calm down al.

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  29. chocky909
    • 16 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    CBS's Darene Branson experiences brain meltdown, bless her.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ5P6RUvbVM&feature=player_embedded

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      haha! That's amazing!

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      1. Bojaninho
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        😆 haha....wooooow! wtf was she smokng

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    2. More Cowbell
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      It's like a whole new language!

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      that is weird. you can't even tell what she's trying to say. i dread to think how much c*** she's sucked to get that job

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      1. njfsdkffslkf
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Far too much by the sounds of that clip 😉

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 16 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          hehe

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    4. njfsdkffslkf
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      😀

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    5. Ghost
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      bertation is a very underused word.

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    6. Clintymints
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daS1ivc_ycg

      already a remix!

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  30. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    just got in. were chelsea lucky to scrape a draw. should i ditch lamps...?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Without a doubt! 🙂

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