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5 March 2011 1768 comments
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The team to round out our gameweek this coming Wednesday evening also have the honour of kicking it off. That means only one thing, we’re well entrenched in another double gameweek and it’s left to the West Midlands derby of Birmingham playing host to West Brom to get us off and on our way as the Dugout Discussion opens it’s doors for the day…

Obafemi Martins is rewarded for his Carling Cup winning goal as he comes in for Nikola Zigic – those 14% backing the lanky Serb to second place in our poll are no doubt cursing right now. Curtis Davies and (Granny’s favourite) Jean Beausejour come in for Martin Jiranek and Seb Larsson while the injured duo of Gardner and Ferguson also replaced by David Bentley and Cameron Jerome. West Brom make just one change from the side that drew with Stoke as James Morrison comes in for the injured Graham Dorrans. Previous fantasy favourite Peter Odemwingie remains on the bench. Teams in full are…

Birmingham XI: Foster; Carr, Johnson, Davies, Ridgwell; Bentley, Fahey, Bowyer, Beausejour; Martins, Jerome

West Brom XI: Carson; Reid, Olsson, Meite, Shorey; Brunt, Mulumbu, Scharner, Morrison, Thomas; Fortune

We’ll then casually stroll into the midst of the 3pm kick-offs with the like Arsenal vs Sunderland and Newcastle playing host to Everton, our other double fixture interests, attracting the most interest.

We’ll close out the day in the safe hands of Roberto Mancini as his City side play host to bottom of the table Wigan. Carlos Tevez comfortably topped our poll this gameweek with 28% of the vote – a sign of the positive nature of the fixture, but just as much the general malaise and skepticism towards the wares on offer from our doublers this week, I imagine.

The Dugout Discussion will be with all through the day until we get some rather Jerky Knees this evening.

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  1. Mourinho factor
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    sold odemwingie for Zigic (4 POINT HIT )

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    1. 4vets
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      I took at 12 point hit and still have Odem, Fabs, RVP & Adam 🙁

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      1. mouldy_uk
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        Bloody hell, that's not good.

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        1. 4vets
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          Tell me about it. I am an injury/not playing magnet.

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          1. In Like Flynn.
            • Has Moderation Rights
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            15 years, 2 months ago

            Let's hope your captain gets a hatrick in each game then. 🙂

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        2. Mourinho factor
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          i hope odemwingie is subbed in so that he can pick up at least one and a goal it cant be too bad Stevvi as u might still ha 11 players on the pitch

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          1. 4vets
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            15 years, 2 months ago

            It would make a nice change 😉

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        3. Mourinho factor
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          i hope odemwingie is subbed in so that he can pick up at least one and a goal it cant be too bad Stevvi as u might still have 11 players on the pitch

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      2. IAmTheWalrus
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        ha ha

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  2. tosey
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    anyone not got foster ingoal this week?

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    1. Boom!!!
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      me 🙁

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      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        And me

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        1. Mourinho factor
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          and me,my minileague leader has hart in goal and foster on bench

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      2. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
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        Me 🙂

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      3. mir
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        mr cricket? (Aus Champ)
        what happens if there is no more play in this game - all points scrapped?

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        1. Boom!!!
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          nothing mentioned in the rules but i think the players who bowled and batted will get their resp. points....

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          1. mir
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            hope not as rival has sangakkara captain - he wont get man of match will surely?

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            1. Boom!!!
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              no if the match gets abondoned there is no MOTM...atleast he will get -15 for his strike if there is no play now 😛

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              1. mir
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                15 years, 2 months ago

                his strike rate is 71.56 so no score (not postive or negative) that four in the last over before the rain pushed it above the 70 mark

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                1. Boom!!!
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                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  Between 50.00 and 74.99 runs per 100 balls: -15 pts 😕

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                  1. mir
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                    yes you are right -
                    Between 0.00 and 24.99 runs per 100 balls: -50 pts
                    Between 25.00 and 49.99 runs per 100 balls: -30 pts
                    Between 50.00 and 74.99 runs per 100 balls: -15 pts
                    Between 75.00 and 99.99 runs per 100 balls: 0 pts
                    Between 100.00 and 124.99 runs per 100 balls: 15 pts
                    Between 125.00 and 174.99 runs per 100 balls: 30 pts
                    175.00 runs per 100 balls and over: 50 pts

                    EXCELLENT !!

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  3. Be
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    bloody 8 point hit and still two no starters ffs!...

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  4. The Laughing Man
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Zigic will come on eventually, so if you transfered for him, it could still pay off but did anyone actual (C) the bugger. If you did, you HAD to know the risk you were taking, so this shouldnt be that BIG of a suprise even if it does suck.

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      This is the point I made on the last page.

      He'll play a some point and by the looks of it, if I'm McLeish I'd stick him on soon cos Brmingham are playing crap at the moment and Jerome and Martins suck.

      Those two are dependent on the ball on the ground and Brmingham can't play that way.

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  5. Locarno
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    Birmingham boys are playing like they've got serious hangovers.

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    1. PFOR
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      Hope they concede, but Johnson scores.

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      1. Boom!!!
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        plus one.

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      2. Locarno
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        -1,000. Got Foster as skipper - clean sheet would be just fine.

        Bowyer's the only one up for this game...

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        1. PFOR
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          Rival has Foster and Ridgewell 😕

          Captain Foster ain't bad (unless Tevez goes mental)

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      3. The Laughing Man
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        With an assist from Foster and a couple save points to boot

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  6. ToonTom
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Just seen teams...was annoyed at first as was going to to Odem-Zigic, now I see hes not playing either!

    These last 2 GW have been SO destructive!

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  7. Bojaninho
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    think mcleish has made a mistake no starting zigic, hes been in the team for 3-4 weeks and the they go used to having an out ball and something to feed off. Jerome and Martins havent won a header nor kept the ball... they have had no possession in wba half at all. Ball just keeps coming back..
    just my opinion.

    not just saying it cause i brought him in 😆

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    1. ToonTom
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      Martins wont ever hold the ball for you...v frustrating player!

      On his day..awesome...

      He always scorewd a stunner vs Spurs for us

      And remember that game vs Arsenal for inter?

      But often-nothing!

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      1. Bojaninho
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        back in his day he was very good...but he went downhill since they figured him out. On his first touch and youl win it 90% of the time. He needs space to run into. Him and Jerome need zigic to feed off the way Birmingham play.

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        1. ToonTom
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          Agree-Im not watchiong game but Im guessing McLeish is wanted to jerome to be the board to play off? Assume hes failing!

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  8. Gforce
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Whats the deal with the BBC football site? It hasn't updated since last sunday???

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    1. David Davros
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      ermmm

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  9. AP
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Here's a question: Has goal.com ever gotten a transfer rumour related article right? Ever? I know it's barmy old cack but surely they must have been right once.

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    1. David Davros
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      throw enough shit and some of it sticks eh.

      Pretty sure they probably linked Dzeko and city at least once

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      1. AP
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        True enough.

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        1. David Davros
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          That said i'd bet my life on that being coincidence, and not because the rumour had any credibility at the time.

          Bunch of wastemen

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          1. AP
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            15 years, 2 months ago

            I'm sure they won an award for best football site.. unbelievable really.

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    2. Locarno
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      They said Ozil was going to United last summer...

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    3. PFOR
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      Them and caughtoffside. I often get excited on that BBC page, then I see the source 😕

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      1. AP
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        Indeed PFOR. I saw this linked on twitter, got excited then quickly got annoyed when i saw the source. http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/03/05/2380085/palermo-playmaker-javier-pastores-agent-finalising-a-deal

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        1. PFOR
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          Same happened me with Ganso and caughtoffside! 😡

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          1. AP
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            15 years, 2 months ago

            Bluuurrgh. Would prefer Gotze now though anyway 😛

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            1. Boom!!!
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              15 years, 2 months ago

              sanchez 😀

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              1. AP
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                15 years, 2 months ago

                No no no, not for me. He's a show pony, he was so frustrating to watch at the WC.

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              2. PFOR
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                15 years, 2 months ago

                Please no.

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                1. Boom!!!
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                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  🙁 he has improved this season...has to be gotze then 😛

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                  1. PFOR
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                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    You know we're talking about playmakers right?

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                  2. Boom!!!
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                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    yes 😡

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                  3. AP
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                    15 years, 2 months ago

                    In fairness PFOR Gotze can play the playmaker role, he's filled in for the injured Kagawa this season.

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            2. PFOR
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              15 years, 2 months ago

              Ha yeah! Or modric 😛

              By the way the United website claims Schalke have given permission to speak to Neuer. Always thought he was set for Munich, happy days! 🙂

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              1. AP
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                15 years, 2 months ago

                I'd be much happier is VDS signed up for another year tbh...

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                1. Gargamel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  15 years, 2 months ago

                  I think he might be the best keeper in the world in about 1 or 2 years if he isn't already, Neuer that is.

                  Watched Bayern vs Schalke in the German cup midweek, Neuer was again an absolute beast in goal and stopped everything. Also caught every cross and never spilled any rebounds at all, even from these notoriously reboundy shots from Robben. World class.

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  10. One man. One Legend. Gianfr…
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    So FIFA realized that they are a useless organization and they hardly have any work to do.

    Thus in order to prove their importance, they BANNED snoods.

    Sheer Genius.

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  11. greghammer95
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Foster on 1 save. I like. 🙂

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    1. Boom!!!
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      lol.

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  12. mouldy_uk
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Why is BIR v WBA a 12:45 televised game, utter tripe so far. What a waste.

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    1. PFOR
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      The only St.Andrews matches worthy of being televised should be clashes with the big teams, not even Brum-Villa!

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      1. greghammer95
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        Surely the Brum Vs West Ham Carling cup semi, and perhaps league game had the right to be televised.

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        1. PFOR
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          Of course. But I was talking about league games!

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  13. Locarno
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Scharner, ya girl's blouse...

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  14. Onwards
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Jerome looks awful. Get Zigic on!!!

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    1. mouldy_uk
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      Surely Zigic is perfect for this sort of game, two crap teams and an awful pitch.

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      1. PFOR
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        ..and a team incapable of defending set-pieces.

        Just a thought.

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      2. Onwards
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        I'm not the one you have to convince.

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    2. jamsiep
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      lol @ how Zigic has suddenly become a world-beater in the eyes of many on here.

      He's absolutely useless.

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      1. Bojaninho
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        couldnt agree more, i made a point that as turd as he is, the way birmingham play he is a world beater 🙄

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      2. AP
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        +1. The zigic love on here was absolutely bizarre. Shades of old Elmander!

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        1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          not sayin he's world beater, but he has scored recently and IS playin two games - not hard to see the appeal really...

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  15. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    No Jiranek or Zigic ggggggrrrrrrrrrr

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  16. Marknlard
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    The info button on my telly says Live Football League: Championship Birmingham vs West Brom.

    Are they trying to tell the teams something?

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    1. Bojaninho
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      😆

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  17. jamsiep
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    I'm currently wearing my snood in protest. What a joke of decision!

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  18. Rasping Drive
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    This game's a bit like watching Arsenal vs Barcelona

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    1. Bojaninho
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      this is better

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      yes indeed two goals, 1 pitch, 22 players, 1 referee

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      1. Waldaz
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        And a team in red and white!

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  19. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    This game would have had Barry Ferguson 3 BP's written all over it if he'd have been playing.

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    1. mouldy_uk
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      So far I wouldn't give a single BP to anyone.

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    2. Locarno
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      Still might.

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  20. jayzico
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    surely mcleish will bring zigic on now. complete shambles... anyone think he'll get at least half an hour?

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    1. mouldy_uk
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      If it stays like this I'm sure he will be out early 2nd half

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      1. jayzico
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        fingers crossed. lankytwat completed my 16 point hit. should have gone for sturridge

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  21. jamsiep
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Brunt is such a clown.

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    1. jamsiep
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      I'd hate playing with him. Don't blame Thomas for having a go at him there... The amount of hopeless long shots he takes is ridiculous.

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Thomas should have passed it though, so I understand why Brunt was angry with him.

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  22. Locarno
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Thomas and Brunt having a row. 🙂 Send them both off.

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    1. Bojaninho
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      not like it wasnt obvious what thomas called him as he walked off

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  23. mouldy_uk
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Jerome and Martins now that's a couple of clowns

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  24. jamsiep
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Zigic would have probably scored seven if he was playing here. McLeish is a disgrace of a manager.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      plus seven

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    2. David Davros
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      lolzor

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    3. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Have a look at this classic blind +1'ing that'll cheer you up.
      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2011/03/05/saturday-dugout-discussion-19/comment-page-1/#comment-1450198

      This match is utter tripe so far. Feck it.

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      1. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Benefit of the doubt though he may have been asking not blindly agreeing. 🙂

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      2. Boom!!!
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        is was asking u 😡

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          I said benefit of the doubt ^^^^ 😆

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    4. Boom!!!
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      just won a carling cup and b'gham finished 9th last season 🙄

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      1. David Davros
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        Surely he's joking?

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      2. jamsiep
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        Oh Boom, what shall we do with you.....

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      3. Cheggers
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        Yes Mcleish is a very good manager. That wasn't the most enlightened comment Ive seen on here.

        Sounds like someone captained Zigic.

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    5. AP
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      Duuurp de durp.

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      1. dogtanion
        • 16 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        Rob Schneider?

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        1. AP
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          Yes!

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    6. jayzico
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      +1

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    7. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      what have you DONE?

      captained o'hara and benched tevez??

      did your account get hacked?

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      1. jamsiep
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        I reckon O'Hara will be a good differential, and I have a funny feeling that Tévez will be on the bench this evening.

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        1. Locarno
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          Balls of steel.

          Or brains of steel. Can't decide.

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            both are made of cake

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        2. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          15 years, 2 months ago

          #tigerblood......
          Or just fricking mentalist.

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          1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            tigerblood 😀

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        3. Art Vandelay
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          I did not think O'Hara was available against his parent club but have just checked the Spurs website and it appears they have given him permission to play. So you ar OK.

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          1. Attila the Bum
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            • 15 Years
            15 years, 2 months ago

            +1

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        4. Get up ya bum
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          😮
          jamie's thrown in the towel, as have i with 24 points in hits in 2 weeks 😉

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        5. Get up ya bum
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          ahh i see, cheeky monkey 😛

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            15 years, 2 months ago

            Schmart inee?

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            1. Get up ya bum
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              debatable 😛

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        6. dogtanion
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          ahahaha did you not learn your lesson after last week's slow updated autosubs

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        7. jamsiep
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          F*cking halfwits, the lot of you.

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          1. Cheggers
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            15 years, 2 months ago

            I thought they were joking.....

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            1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
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              15 years, 2 months ago

              erm i was! wanted to see what responses i got

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  25. Well you know, Triffic
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Has Martins touched the ball?

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  26. jamsiep
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Apparently when Barca signed David Villa from Valencia, they actually thought they were getting Zigic.

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  27. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    i actually kind of hope brum concede having just foster- ess likely for johnson to get bonii, and the doublers and triplers wont get the points. mind yo9u, still need birm to win

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  28. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    15 years, 2 months ago

    im the only person capping lamps in my league. most dont even have him. majority have gone with tevez, could be a crunch week this one..

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    1. Cheggers
      • 16 Years
      15 years, 2 months ago

      Fat Frankie 4 goals on Monday night

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      1. Boom!!!
        • 15 Years
        15 years, 2 months ago

        no drogba hat trick.

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  29. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    Dunno if it's been mentioned but ESPN is free this weekend in Eire, presumably in the UK too

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    1. Cheggers
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      Yea - get to see City v Wigan for free

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      1. ...---...
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        15 years, 2 months ago

        Nice one Superm, didn't notice that.

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          15 years, 2 months ago

          not on freeview. Booooooooooooooooo!!

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    2. 20LEGEND
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      On Sky+ too yayyy!

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  30. RoysBrotherJohnson- Irish p…
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    15 years, 2 months ago

    tevez on the bench later...pfffft.

    got 30 minutes during the week , looked lively, and is their best player. Unless hes in argieland, he'll start end of

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    1. dogtanion
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      15 years, 2 months ago

      He'll start, no doubt.

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