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The FPL Bonus Points – Moving the Goalposts?

While the Fantasy Premier League player list is taking up the bulk of our time, sapping our energies and thinking – some will no doubt have noticed that Wednesday’s launch also brought several rule changes. One such tweak involved the allocation of Bonus Points. The “man in the stand” from the Press Association is no longer the “judge and jury” behind these points – from this season the FPL have gone back to a method driven by an Index, fuelled by statistics that measure player actions and team performance.

The EA SPORTS Player Performance Index (EA SPORTS PPI) will now be the recipient of our post-match wrath – although given that cold hard statistics will be behind it, it’s going to be more difficult to justify the bile.

Such a change inevitably poses some questions but for us at Fantasy Football Scout, it also gives us the opportunity to offer a new feature to offer Members a helping hand.

What is the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index?

The Premier League site offers a full explanation of this right here so we won’t go into too much detail. Effectively the index uses an algorithm to provide a single value which offers an appraisal of a player’s performance in a Premier League match. That algorithm takes into account a variety of statistics gathered from a match reflecting player actions on the pitch such as – shots, clearances, saves etc. Goals scored, assists and clean sheets are perhaps the biggest factors in the calculation of the index score but crucially, the outcome of the match is also very significant. A player in the winning team is far more likely to register a high EA SPORTS PPI score than a player on the losing side.

What does this mean for the Fantasy Premier League Bonus Points?

It’s hard to say. While we are likely to have more visibility on the factors that affect the award of the Bonus Points, it’s still very difficult to predict which players will benefit next season. The fact that winning performances are crucial suggests that players amongst the top sides will be far more likely to earn big totals of Bonus Points than those turning out for struggling sides. To put this into perspective, Charlie Adam had the highest Bonus Point total in the Fantasy Premier League game last season. However, he ranked just 20th overall in the EA SPORTS PPI.

It’s also notable that, out of the top 25 EA SPORTS PPI ranked players last season, 10 of them were Man United or Chelsea players, 3 were at Man City, 2 at Liverpool and 1 at Arsenal. Charlie Adam was the only player from a relegated club in the top 30. Scott Parker – the player of the year last season – was not in the top 10 midfielders and was ranked 70th overall.

The jury is very much out on the effectiveness of the EA SPORTS PPI then but we can only really speculate on how it will distribute the FPL Bonus Points until the season is underway. One thing we’re pretty sure on – we noticed last season that goalscorers were big beneficiaries of Bonus Point awards – our guess is that this will continue with the implementation of the EA SPORTS PPI. Goalscorers on winning sides are set for regular gains then. Is that any different to the old PA Sports method? Only time will tell.

How can Fantasy Football Scout help?

At least now we know that the statistics available to our Members have a definite impact on a player’s likelihood of earning FPL Bonus Points. Our Members already have access to the statistics that contribute to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data. By interrogating last season’s data now, you can already get a view on the top performers across the statistics that matter. We will be publishing members articles to aid this process too.

As you no doubt will have heard, Fantasy Football Scout are also contributing articles to the FPL this season. “The Scout” will examine the Bonus Point allocation each gameweek and attempt to breakdown the factors behind the awards using the EA SPORTS PPI data.

We’re going to provide something new however. Something a little extra…

The Scout ICT Index – Influence, Creativity and Threat

We have a new way for Members to read and analyse statistics this season. We’ve built our own Fantasy Football Index – the Scout “ICT” Index. This measures the performance of Premier League players in three key areas – Influence, Creativity and Threat. The first of those, a player’s Influence, will use similar performance indicators to the EA SPORTS PPI via our Opta data, although our algorithm will be different.

Our index score for Influence won’t take the results into consideration and will therefore offer a level playing field to those players who suffer defeat in a match. In this way our Index will hopefully be effective at finding influential players within struggling clubs, but should still offer our Members a view on which players are more likely to score highly in the EA SPORTS PPI and therefore be in line for Bonus Points. While the FPL Bonus Points arriving “the morning after matches” – our members can get access to our ICT index once we update our data – often just 10-20 minutes after the final whistle has blown.

In basic terms the ICT index will help to make our Opta data more digestible. It will offer one single index score for Influence, one for Creativity and one for Threat. These will help to measure a player’s importance to their team and to a match, a player’s likelihood to earn assists and to score goals, or at least get in goalscoring situations. Those three figures will then be combined to create a single ICT Index score to measure a player’s overall performance contribution from a Fantasy perspective.

Index scores will be generated on a gameweek basis and cumulatively over the season. The full Opta data will still be available of course, but Members will now have an easy route to identify how players are performing across the key statistics.

The index, like any football index, will be far from perfect. There will be tweaks along the way. Plenty of discussions as we go. Even so, the ICT Index is already providing us with plenty of talking points and insight behind the scenes and we think it’s going to be a valuable addition for our Members. It will also give us plenty of material to discuss in a series of new Members articles.

We currently have the ICT Index in test and will be creating new tables and new sidebar widgets that will give Members quick access to the top performers on our Index on a gameweek basis and over the season as a whole. These widgets will also form the basis of our new dashboard available to Members when they log into the Members area.

Keep ‘em peeled for more news on this in the next few weeks.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

2,654 Comments Post a Comment
  1. rrwholloway
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    Is there any news on the likelihood of a mobile site? I know that FFM for iphone is working on an update (he found out the same way we all did that the mobile site no longer works) but it would be very silly if the mobile site is not part of their revamp.

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    1. Hybrid.power
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I want to know this too.

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  2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Baines, Vidic, Cole or Terry??

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    1. Boom!!!
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Cole!

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Baines AND Vidic ... 😀

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  3. Paul
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    getting more and more the feeling that this site is bothered just about members these days...

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    1. 4vets
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      If that was the case they'd close it to non-members. You still get excellent articles etc.

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    2. Dave Bauer
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Well there has to be some benefit or no-one would pay £12.50, would they?

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    3. simonfrankland
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      12.50 doesnt exactly break the bank Paul for a whole season - especially considering the effort that goes into it....

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      1. THE BAD
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        +1.. i wasn't member last year because i only discovered this site lately... but now i am already a member, and i think the creators and mods of this site deserve my money.

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        1. rrwholloway
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          +1

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    4. Mark
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      I think you need to see the re-design - when you see and use the new site you will see we've invested a lot of time, effort and money in improving the free site for all.

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      1. Suarezchomper
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Some people are so cheeky, I'm sure i speak for most on here that the team do a great job and deserve to charge a fee for extra insight. If you don't like people who pay a little money to get extra advice don't bother with the site at all. At the end of the day i'm sure Mark and co have families and bills to pay so can't be ploughing their wage into making sure you pick the best 11 players every week in fantasy football!

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    5. Woy of the Wovers
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      What!!?? I site that revolves around it's people who pay for it!!

      These guys do a great job which is good value for those who pay £12.50. For those who don't pay, well it's free so good value too...

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  4. Dave Bauer
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    Cole, Vidic, Baines, Terry would be my preferred order of selection.

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    1. Dave Bauer
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Reply fail - sorry.

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      1. reply fail
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        No problem

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        1. DangerousSnails
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          🙂

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  5. simonfrankland
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    anyone know when the 'watchlist' springs back into life??

    cheers

    i am so happy its all back!

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    1. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Well I'm hoping that when we launch the new look site, the Watchlist will be refreshed for this. We're changing teh systems behind the Watchlist and Scout Picks and, of those two, the Scout Picks is obviously the priority.

      We will try to get the Watchlist in place for GW1 though.

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      1. simonfrankland
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Mark - good luck with all the changes!

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      2. Hybrid.power
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        When's the new site launching Mark?

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        1. Mark
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          • 17 Years
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          We're aiming for another round of betatesting on Sunday. We will run that, gather feedback and results again and then assess it. I'm not rushing it out. We may start the season with the old design. However, I will be releasing some details on what it brings after the next test all being well.

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  6. THE BAD
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    FFS getting better and better and better and better....

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    1. Mark
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      • 17 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Hopefully. I'm not sitting still on the progress we've made and the support given via the Members sign-ups is being invested back to produce more - the redesign will hopefully demonstrate just how much.

      We had to take months to invest in our infrastructure behind the site - that stalled progress on development but it was a catch 22. Now we're really are full steam ahead on implementing improvements and new features.

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      1. Jimrod™
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        12 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, looking good Mark.

        The only real disappointment with FPL (initial bugs aside) is the bonus point system being so slow. If Metro can use opta stats instantly and to good effect it seems a shame FPL can't.

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        1. Andy
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          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          This is where our ICT index will be a lovely little sneak-preview for our members too.

          While it's not going to pair up as a carbon copy of the EA Index our Members will be able to get a very good hint of which players may be top of the bonus queue before the folks at FPL towers even know.

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          1. Fratboy
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Yeah 🙂

            That's awesome!

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    2. Fratboy
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      and better and better and better and better....

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      1. Hybrid.power
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        and butter and butter and butter...

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        1. Fratboy
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          it's for fullstops!!!!!!!!!!!! FFS (FOR F*CKS SAKE)

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          1. Fratboy
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            *four

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            1. THE BAD
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              lol .... lol

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              1. Fratboy
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 9 months ago

                🙂

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  7. vova
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    a)rudy, luiz, yaya, suarez
    b)kenny, acole, silva, holt

    My Current Team:
    Given Kenny
    Kompany ACole Simpson Bramble Hughes
    NZogbia Sinclair Tchoyi Sess Silva
    Bent RVP Ba

    What do you thin?

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Wtf is rudy?

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  8. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 14 Years
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    A) Malouda and Carol (already have lampard)
    B) Dempsey and RVP (already have zamora)

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    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 14 Years
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      lol? neither?

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  9. Jimrod™
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    Well my team is:

    GK: De Gea (Kenny)

    DEF: Kompany, A Cole, Luiz, Rafael, Chichy

    MID: Yaya, Barton, N'Zogbia, Maxi (Dyer)

    STR: Carroll (Ba, Odemwingie)

    Some risks in there but generally solid I reckon - I think a few rotation possibilities are ok as long as subs are good.

    Maxi captain first week with Carroll vice, if Maxi plays good chance of big points, if not Carroll will most likely be involved in something in front of goal. Again a little risky but it seems many are going for very similar options to each other, I'll either be left behind or it'll pay off 😀

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    1. Jimrod™
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      *Clichy in defence even 😉

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    2. Drip Doctor
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      No point having all those defenders unless you play them everyweek. Maxi is a massive rotation risk.

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      1. Jimrod™
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Intending to keep 5 at the back, only swapping on tough games for my other striking options. Going defence heavy worked for me in the 2009/10 season when I got a top 1000 finish, though points may not be as easy if this season is like the last one with random goals everywhere!

        Maxi is my risk player - he's done very well since Dalgleish came in, he may not play but I've got decent back-up on the bench if need be. If he does play (as captain) and scores 2 or 3 as he's quite capable of he may well work out massively, if he doesn't I should be covered enough with Carroll as VC.

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    3. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      wow that's some gamble on maxi. I can't see where he would figure in their side this season, wouldn't be surprised to see him leave before the season starts, maybe back to Argentina?

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      1. Jimrod™
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        If he leaves I'll definitely change! 😀 He scored two in their last friendly, Meireles and Jovanovich may well go first, Joe Cole sucks - there's definitely room for Max in the squad if that happens. If not I'll swap back to Silva (in place of Yaya) and Wilshere/Ramsey.

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    4. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Luiz and rafael are rotation risks. Midfield is horrendous. They could easily pick up less than 2pts each in a week. Odem has horrendous fixtures, why not zamora instead? Carroll over suarez? Why?

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  10. vova
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    a)rudy, luiz, yaya, suarez
    b)kenny, acole, silva, holt

    My Current Team:
    Given Kenny
    Kompany ACole Simpson Bramble Hughes
    NZogbia Sinclair Tchoyi Sess Silva
    Bent RVP Ba

    What do you think?

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    1. SH1M1
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      deffo A

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    2. heco87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      B

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  11. mufc802
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Pick A or B

    A: Hughes | Bardsley | van Der Vaart | Lampard

    B: Hangeland | Cole A | N'Zogbia | Malouda

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    1. SH1M1
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      A

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    2. ohffs
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      I'd say B just for the double Chelsea coverage

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    3. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    4. BMox81
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      B for me.

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  12. Drip Doctor
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    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Why change the perfect game. Not a fan of this bonus point change.

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    1. mufc802
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Bonus points never were perfect.

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Entertaining on here though! 😀

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  13. Gazza2386
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    @Mark is there any iphone/android app or mobile site in the pipline for this AMAZING site? I would happily pay £'s for a Android app and im sure it would see a tidy return in your investment!!! Ill only ask for 10% in return for my idea.. LOL!

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  14. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Annoying that baps will be awarded the morning after the games when I will be at work! 🙁

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    1. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      +2

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  15. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Can anyone explain the reasoning behind the regular 'Buzsaky is a must if Taarabt leaves' posts? 😕

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    1. Churchill
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      This seasons Boselli?

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      1. Camzy
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        He can't be if he's 4.5. That's bench fodder price.

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    2. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Apparently he is quite creative and will take freekicks.

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      1. heco87
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        9 games last season, 0 goals and 0 assists says they won't be ery good fr4ee kicks though ...

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      against watford he was horrific last season. although to be fair taraabt was shocking in the game too.

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  16. ohffs
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    I'm worried that if I joing properly it will mean the end of my life outside of FPL, but it's getting so tempting, especially with the money up for grabs in my friend's league. It almost feels like cheating though!

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  17. super zlatan
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    First RMT.

    Given. Ruddy
    R Johnson. Shawcross. A cole. Orr. Simpson
    Lamps. Sessegion. Silva. Ohara. Sinclair
    Rvp. Zamora. Ba

    Thoughts appreciated.

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  18. Prhymeate
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    thinking of this starting XI, due to change within the next 2mins no doubt...

    Given
    Kompany/Gibbs/Cahill
    Yaya/Lampard/Ben Arfa/N'Zogbia
    Suarez/Odem/RVP

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  19. Long ago I drew a walrus
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Has more or less EVERYONE on here got Given??? oh dear... I have given and kenny, no need to say it, im sure there are a few thousand of you out there with the same combo at the mo...

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    1. bobbydinho - Portland Irons
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Reina/Al-Habsi here

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  20. Cahill
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    hey fella's, quick dilemma?

    Silva, Lampard, Suarez

    or

    Young, Malouda, Carroll

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      A defo!

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    2. heco87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      A

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  21. Churchill
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    Excellent work.

    Any chance of a similar overview about 'assisting' the free kick rule? The most fouled players leading to free kicks could be something to factor into our thinking.

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  22. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    How many other folks followed this pattern today:

    a. loaded up FFScout
    b. read Rooney's comment in the sidebar re:"real me next season"
    c. immediately logged into FPL
    d. tinkered with team to crowbar Rooney in at the expense of Suarez/Bent/Zamora/Odemwingie, delete as appropriate

    How many subsequently went on to do the following upon having some time to reflect?

    e. realised inital decision not to select Rooney was correct - based on opening fixtures + withdrawn striker role in vast majority of premiership games
    f. Took him the hell back out of their team

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I just skipped straight to E 😀

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  23. Hanso Lo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Well thank the Pope that I'm a member hey...Just as I was gonna try and investigate the whole EA thingy BAM!!!! Mark pops up and is already a thousand steps ahead. Thanks guys for all the great work...that chunk of info is gonna be super crucial this season...Gonna need every little bonus point I reckon.

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  24. dmcqt
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    The article is helpful. Thanks!
    The big, unanswered question concerns the algorithm.
    What is the EA Sports Player Performance Index algorithm????

    What is the relative weight of a successful tackle vs. a shot on goal vs. a successful clearance vs. an assist? And what damage does a yellow card do? Or a shot off target or a failed tackle? If we knew this information, we could anticipate who is more likely to get bps. It seems there's no reason for the algorithm to be kept a secret.

    Also, how about if FFS tries to replicate the algorithm, perhaps instead of or in addition to creating a new ICT Index? After five weeks or so, it should be possible to have a strong guess at the balance of the factors involved.

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  25. Cornelius
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone starting a cash league? I put in far too much time on this malarkey and deserve to be paid!

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  26. mikeywoodward
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Lads a nice rmt please any feedback or alternatives you think i should have thanks

    Given, Krul
    Kompany, cole, Oshea, Riise Caulker
    Valencia, N zogbia, ben arfa, albrighton, moses
    Torres, RVP, Beckford
    0.0 in bank

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    1. conor2me
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Ba over Beckford (everton are slow starers)for me anyway and i'd rather have Bardsley over O'shea.Ben afra and Valencia arnt really gonna have a pre season so i'd keep my eye on them.Otherwise it looks good

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      1. mikeywoodward
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        thanks mate why ba over beckford? everton have better fixtures.

        bardsley over oshea is a good shout but is bardsley now udner pressure for his place?

        whats the deal with valencia i havnt seen anything bad? he injured or something?

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        1. conor2me
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/14/antonio-valencia-manchester-united-injury just have to wait and see when he will be back and how sharp he will be. I really think Ba is gonna have a big season, he did brillantly with West Ham in a couple of games and he's Nnewcastles only stiker and they tend to score a decent amount at St.James Park, the oshea/bardsley situation is tough, but id take bardsley over oshea cause i think hes a better attacking threat

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  27. southwind
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Given/Al Habs
    Kompany/Luiz/Riise/Walker/Gibbs
    Yaya/Downing/Albrighton/Barton/Sinclair
    Suarez/Hernandez/Ba

    any thoughts?

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  28. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Done a bit of tweaking, had defence of:
    Hart Ruddy
    Luiz Hughes O'Shea Simpson Orr.

    Swapped Riise for hughes. What is best rotating GW combo for 10m total?

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    1. SkyByBo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Given + Begovic

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  29. @ImpressiveTackl
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Mark this all sounds awesome especially the ICT index.

    I must admit that I have wondered on occasion how one is supposed to analyse the mass of statistics available. I'm a bit of a Statto anyway so I enjoy it.

    However having them collated and seperated into easily digestible titbits will be great. Yummy.

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      It will be Yummy if we r able to predict which players will be new BP darlings,

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    2. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Lol love your user name. Makes me chuckle every time.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers Tommy G

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        1. James
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Im pretty sure he was referring to Impressive Tackle.

          Lol!

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  30. Tommyg
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    What formation are most going for on here. I think I'll be 4-3-3.

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      3-4-3 for me, depending on the fixture.

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      1. Hughes the Daddy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        343 I reckon, at least at the start

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    2. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Think it best for your formation to depend on the players you pick for any given match

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