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5 August 2011 1940 comments
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As we highlighted around the launch of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game, this season’s Bonus Points are being gathered from a very different source.

The days of Fantasy managers calling foul when a player sporting an extravagant haircut (see: Chris Eagles, David Luiz, etc for perfect examples) appeared to win favour simply by catching the eye of the “man in the stand” – the ever elusive Press Association representative – are now dead.

This season the FPL are dealing in cold hard statistics; numbers will be crunched and repurposed via the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index – a figure dealt to each player after every game based on six key factors (winning, performance, appearance time, goals, assists and clean sheets). That new Gameweek stat will now decide the destination of the much-maligned supplementary scoring; we’re no longer at the mercy of a shadowy figure with the dubious outlook – a good thing surely?

The truth is – the jury is still out on that. While we’re likely to have a decent insight on how things will work once the season is underway, right now we can only speculate on how this change will evolve matters.

There are some clues available; a few paths we can tentatively tread right now to help anticipate how the Bonus Points will be steered from next weekend onwards. We’ve done some digging through the data already publicly available to explore how matters may pan out and, in doing so, can present you with more than a few theories to ponder prior to Saturday’s deadline.

Looking at last season’s top 25 EA SPORTS PPI scorers, the first impression is extremely encouraging. Names like Vincent Kompany (7th), Joe Hart (11th), Petr Cech (12th) and Sylvain Distin (24th), are high in the rankings, suggesting that such players will benefit from a belated extra boost in their Gameweek earnings.

Dig a little deeper however and these early hopes seem a little forlorn.

Kompany and Hart, for example, started 75 out of 76 games between them, with an average EA SPORTS PPI of 14 and 13.2 respectively. Right now those scores mean very little. We know that, over the season, both players fared well – that they were obviously very consistent in their Index scoring. However, when push comes to shove, picking up Bonus Points is about being one of the top three scorers on the index in any given fixture – consistent scoring week to week will mean nothing – “explosive” performances in a single Gameweek is what we’re looking for. This is where attacking players appear to hold a firm advantage with their decisive interventions at the business end of the field.

Before we switch our attention to those particular players, let’s dwell on Kompany as an example a little longer.

Much is expected of the City centre-back this season; here is a player who rarely threatens goal and assists but is often the mainstay of a rock solid City backline. With an initial price of 6.0 in the FPL, Kompany looks good value but, in saying that, we’re still anticipating Bonus points will help him justify that valuation.

As already mentioned, Kompany earned a very respectable average score on the EA SPORTS PPI of 14 points per game last season- however, it’s his range of scoring that is key to his chances of earning a top three Index spot in any given match. If this range of scoring over the season is between 7 and 28 points in the Index, can we be sure that this will be enough to finish above the likes of David Silva, Carlos Tevez and Sergio Aguero on a regular basis?

To assess this further we analysed the first ten EA SPORTS PPI “Team of the Week’s” in an attempt to decipher some trends within the scoring. We start with the top scoring goalkeepers of weeks one through ten…

GoalkeeperPPI ScoreGoalsAssistsClean SheetsWin
Hahnemann26000No
Carson21001Yes
Al-Habsi22001Yes
Gilks23001Yes
Hart21001Yes
Green22001Yes
Cech19001Yes
Howard20001Yes
Cech23001Yes
Reina22001Yes

Looking at the table above you can see the best goalkeeper in each of the first ten weeks of action scored between 19 and 26 on the EA SPORTS PPI. Averaged out across the ten weeks this gives us a score of 22.1 points as an average return for a top rated stopper.

These numbers appear to show there is a definite ceiling to a keeper’s Index score. However, on initial inspection, given that we know that Kompany averaged a score of 14 points a week, this still look promising – the early impression is that keepers may well be in line for more Bonus next season. Once we start analysing the outfield positions however, the complexion changes.

DefenderPPI ScoreGoalsAssistsClean SheetsWin
Baptiste32101Yes
A. Cole25011Yes
Hangeland25100No
Williamson29011Yes
L. Young37101Yes
Agger24001Yes
Koscielny35100Yes
Samba30000Yes
Hutton30110Yes
Samba28100No
Jara31100Yes
Upson24001Yes
Alex33100Yes
Distin24001Yes
Coloccini25100No
Bridge19000Yes
Ridgewell37101Yes
Bosingwa28001Yes
Vidic45101Yes
Terry30000Yes

When we examine twenty of the top forty defenders from the first ten weeks of the season you can immediately see an increase in the range of scoring. Nemanja Vidic earned 45 EA SPORTS PPI points in a single week, while the lowest in our sample is 19 from Wayne Bridge – the same as our tenth rated keeper Petr Cech.

The “top performing” defenders look like they pick up between 24 and 37 Index points in a given Gameweek. The average score the top of the level defenders (using the sample of all 40 from the first ten weeks, not just the 20 listed above) returns an EA SPORTS Index score of 28.1. Indication that defenders are at least more likely to get Bonus Points than a goalkeeper on your average Gameweek. Little change there then.

Significantly, from the Defenders table above, we can already see that goalscoring is a key factor behind a strong Index haul. The top scoring defenders over the first 10 Gameweeks all claimed goals and Alex and Jara were ranked amongst them even without earning a clean sheet.

There are, of course, and always will be, exceptions to the rule. Chris Samba earned 30 Index points in Gameweek 3, despite failing to register any of the key factors. From the data available, however, such occurrences appear to be a rarity.

Already we’re beginning to suspect that goals and assists, plus of course a winning team performance, will be the key contributors. When we switch our focus to the attacking players, this hypothesis appears to be cemented further.

Mid/ForwardPPI ScoreGoalsAssistsClean SheetsWin
Drogba68301Yes
S. Petrov34101Yes
Carroll65301Yes
Barry35100Yes
Walcott39100Yes
Etuhu25100No
Essien52200Yes
Etherington32020Yes
Berbatov60301No
Van Der Vaart24100Yes
Thomas38100Yes
Emerton32100Yes
Varney40100Yes
Gomez31101Yes
N’Zogbia42200No
Silva31100Yes
Hernandez44200Yes
Song33101Yes
Ameobi57220Yes
Yakubu35100Yes

Perhaps the most surprising factor of all, hidden amongst the minutiae of the EA SPORTS PPI definition, is the fact that clean sheets contribute towards a midfielder’s – and even a striker’s Index tally. The definition states that these are weighted according to position, but the fact that a striker has any benefit from a clean sheet whatsoever immediately diminishes the value of a defender in comparison to their attacking comrades.

To think Mario Balotelli could be more likely to pick up FPL bonus points now because of work predominantly done by the likes of Kompany, only strengthens the case for attacking players within winning teams.

As you can see on the table above – the range of returns here is the biggest we’ve seen. Midfielders and forwards are of course much more likely to score and assist and it appears to be those factors that see their Index scores rocket.

The bottom scorer in our table – Rafael Van der Vaart still picked up 24 points (this is 10 more than your average Kompany score) while the top earner over the first ten Gameweeks – Didier Drogba – romped home with an index mark of 68 points – a truly explosive return.

Finding the average EA SPORTS PPI score from the top midfielders and forwards (using the sample of all 60 from the first ten weeks) we can see evidence of a clear runaway winner – the Index figure comes in at a strong 39.6.

Looking back then, while the defenders made the goalkeepers look somewhat irrelevant, by and large the midfielders and strikers leave them both behind. The average score of 39.6 is higher than all but one of the very best defenders in the first 10 Gameweeks.

Given that there is an average of 2.8 goals scored in every Premier League game, that leaves the potential for a fair number of assists and goals to boost the attacking players’ Index scores each week. A clean sheet proved much harder to come by last season and, on the evidence of the data available, seems far less likely to earn a player the boost required to push them into the top three EA SPORTS PPI position in a given match ahead of a goalscorer. Winning, scoring and assisting all look like being the key indices.

All roads, perhaps unsurprisingly, lead to goals then. If a player scores a goal (or even just contributes to it) then their Index score seems likely to beat off other “top performers” across the less significant performance statistics.

We have to hold our hands up and be honest here – our data is limited – we’re working with a large number of blind spots and these theories are ultimately assumptions based on what’s available. The evidence found however, seems to defy some of the assumptions made since the rule change was announced. Defenders and industrious midfielders could earn extra recognition but ultimately, it looks as the attacking players, particularly those in sides that regularly earn three points, will dominate the Bonus awards.

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  1. trisonetwo
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    quick questions - no love for gibbs, surely great potential? also - whats the deal with wilkinson, is he in stokes starting 11?

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    1. Keep calm and hoof me the b…
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      See below. Seems like a steal for me

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    2. Sir Jose Wenger returns
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      As long as Traore and Vermaelen dont cut his playing time and also there are other defenders who are more likely to get cleanies on other teams e.g Distin for the same price. he has assist potential though

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      1. Lewis - Sky Pod
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        Clean Sheets 2010/11

        Arsenal - 13

        Everton - 9

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        1. Qubit
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          most people seem to completely ignore arsenal for clean sheets. Once their awkward first 3 fixtures are gone ill be getting an arsenal defender most likely.

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          1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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            +1. May even swap out A Cole.

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        2. Sir Jose Wenger returns
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          wow I had no idea!

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    3. Keep calm and hoof me the b…
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      I think he picked up a knock the other night. I've had him in my team loads over the last 2 seasons but he always gets dropped just as I select him. Cheap price for a Stoke defender tho

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  2. Keep calm and hoof me the b…
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    Evening all. Yet another RMT:

    Given (Kenny)
    Gibbs Kompany A Cole Hughes (Simpson)
    Taraabt Sinclair Malouda Sessegnon (Moses)
    VP Bent (Holt)

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    1. jayzico
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      TARAABT/SINCLAIR NOT AGAIN!!! (hey, they ROTATE so well...) i give up... why? it is kinda funny though

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      1. jayzico
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        ps. u didnt happen to eh... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team... copy that team...

        did you?

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        1. filobiz
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          why wouldn't you put qpr and swansea's top scorers in your team? i did, and this is the first time i've logged on here for 3 months! taraabt was frikkin great last season.

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          1. jayzico
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            i had him at first. became disillusioned i suppose after watching him play a couple of games. that's just me though, im sure i'll be proven wrong.

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  3. Oliver Reed
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    im getting unbelievably stressed trying to finalise my team. So much so that im ready to throw my laptop in the bin. im not sure i can take much more tinkering...

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    1. fatherted
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      You and about a million others, got samba and Enrique waiting for them to move, but will they?????? Only swapped my team about 8 times and still a week to go.

      Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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  4. Akers
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    Ah, Scholes....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KDwrRio_wQ

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    1. Cheggers
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      Can you change picture now?
      Hes gone and looking at him makes me feel a bit sick.

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      1. denial
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        Wow you're a wally.

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        1. Leysh
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          +1

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          1. Cheggers
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            -2

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        2. The Bandit
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          Anyone who uses his actual portrait as a grav is not to be taken seriously...

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    2. denial
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      Will be missed.

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    3. Gargamel
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      Lovely. Love the grin on SAF's face too.

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    4. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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      Good Job Scholes, you can score with no defender in sight and the goalkeeper not busy talking to the ref!

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  5. The Bandit
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    I have just put VdV back in my team and I am happy again. He's like a comfort blanket. 🙂

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    1. Pablitto
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      instead of whom?

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      1. Pablitto
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        who

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      2. The Bandit
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        Benny

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        1. Pablitto
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          CFC Benny? Is much cheaper ... Only way you had space in the bank ... That s not my case 🙁

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  6. Henry
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    is Van der Vaart going to be fit for the first game or was that injury at Brighton serious, does anyone know?

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    1. Leysh
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      Well, he's been named in the Netherlands squad against England on the 10th.

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    2. Sasquatch
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      Dunno about next weekend, but he's back training tomorrow.

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  7. Larkin
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    Given (Ruddy)

    Kompany, Hughes, Enrique (Taylor, Orr)
    Young, Malouda, Taarabt, Moses (Sinclair)
    Zamora, Bent, RVP

    -Thought's? Enrique is in assuming he goes to Liverpool.

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  8. dnorth
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    Another RMT

    Cech Moreira
    Huth Cahill Clichy Collins Simpson
    VDM Fabragas Sinclair Dyer johnson
    Rooney Odemwingie Holt

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    1. Sparky
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      I don't like it actually but thank god it's different to all the others

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      1. dnorth
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        At least your honest

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  9. dameso
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    Please RMT. Am new to this!

    Given, Al-Habsi

    O'Shea,De Laet,Samba,Simpson,Kompany

    Sessegnon, Albrighton, Moses, Kuyt,Formica

    Rooney, Drogba, Bent

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  10. funny money
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    omg this article has transformed my team.

    I paniced. Went from a strong defense to chancy light defence.

    Am I insane? Sorry to RMT but I am a bit pissed and fear I have acted too swiftly ...

    Given/Moreira
    Shawcross/Enrique/De Laet/Luiz/Senderos
    Malouda/VDV/Sess/NZog/Ephraim
    RPV/AJ/Suarez

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  11. Alfonso79
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    What are people's thoughts on Benayouns like;yhood of playing & picking up points?

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    1. CFCTom
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      He'll get a lot of game time and a fair few points unless we sign another playmaker.

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      1. Alfonso79
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        Thanks Tom. Did he feature much in preseason?

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        1. CFCTom
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          Yes, got a lot more minutes than most and he played well too. AVB looked happy with him and he seems fond of him personally aswell, having seen lots Chelsea TV interviews, so I think he could have a very good season, unless, as I said, Modric or someone of that ilk is signed. Have you seen his goal against Wycombe?

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  12. Vote Joke
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    Oi. Would you have:

    A Aquero & Valencia

    OR

    B Balotelli & Young

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    1. Darbs
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      Need to wait and see which of those is gonna be playing first... any/all could end up on the bench.

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  13. HST
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    Mila Kunis is so hot it's untrue.

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    1. Leysh
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      I have to agree

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      1. funny money
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        hotness defined

        filthy too ....

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    2. RmS
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      Agreed.

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    3. applebonkers
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      what are you watching? forgetting sarah marshall?

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      1. Leysh
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        Alan Carr's Chatty Man is what she's on at the moment 😛

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        1. HST
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          That's what spurned the comment, she's gorgeous.

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          1. CFCTom
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            Shut up, Meg

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          2. applebonkers
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            she's my numero uno. brunettes ftw

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      2. HST
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        The mrs is watching Alan Carr chatty man, horse shit TV but Godamn Mila Kunis, I mean Godamn!

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        1. immybob
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          I love her like a fat kid loves cake... She is Amazing..!!

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    4. dogtanion
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      No rack unfortunately.

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      1. HST
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        I'm the biggest boob fan in the world but she is in perfect proportion.

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        1. dogtanion
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          Georgia Salpa...... number one in the world a.t.m..was within 10 feet of her afew weeks back in a pub in Dublin..I turned into a 12 year old dork at a school disco!

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        2. Gargamel
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          'I'm the biggest boob fan in the world' 😆

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    5. mr messi
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      Justin's not half bad either 😉

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      1. RmS
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        Should she happen to Google herself and stumble across this thread I am sure she will be very flattered too.

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      2. Sir Jose Wenger returns
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        are the two of them together?

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        1. Leysh
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          I think they are but they haven't confirmed it, he recently broke up with Jessica Biel. Source : Reveal Magazine in the work staff room 😛

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    6. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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      Paul Scholes wouldn't get off the bench at Real or Barcelona, his entire career!

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    7. fatherted
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      Omg never seen her before. One word.....Absolutely stunning...well ok 2then!!!!!!!!!!! Looks like a very very sexy Katie Holmes

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  14. Darbs
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    14 years, 7 months ago

    Quick GW1 RMT, if that's ok...

    Al-Habsi

    Gibbs - Rafael - Richards

    Formica - O'Hara - Silva - Moses

    Rooney - Bent - Augero

    Subs: L. Young, Orr, Tchoyi

    I've got £1m in the bank... do I swap Aguero for RVP? Newcastle look to be in a mess, can see them getting turned over by Arsenal.

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  15. Ninjaa
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    just got in, anyone see the everton game tonight, how did baines play?

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    1. The Bandit
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      Was their most forward player on many occasions but missed some good chances.

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  16. SöundLight 30
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    Hi all,

    First post of the new season here. I was wondering, has anyone been playing around with the Rate My Team site? If so, do you think their projections are realistic?

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    1. The Bandit
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      Same as everyone elses, guesswork. Ok, maybe more informed guesswork than some, but guesswork nontheless.

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      1. SöundLight 30
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        It does look like they have accounted for recent changes, ie injuries, which lends it a bit of credibility. It's a nice tool and I like how you can segment gw's to see how your team fares for a set period. With all the talk of their statistical modeling, I suppose it is conjecture just the same.

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  17. jayzico
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    being in on a saturday night is oddly fun... now i got u guys back... i dont mean to revert back to my dirt chat but eh who's that total utter turn on with timberlake on that twat carr's show tho?

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    1. The Bandit
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      It's Friday?

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    2. HST
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      See above, it's Mila Kunis, and it's Friday.

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    3. mr messi
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      See above

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    4. immybob
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      Definately Friday...

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    5. The Bandit
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      Can you see the Lottery numbers?

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      1. jayzico
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        ahaha. yup. it is indeed friday. and damn yous hav just reminded me ive a lucky dip. many thanx 🙂

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  18. The Milkman
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    I think I'm finally settled on my team now.

    Al-Habsi
    Wilkinson, Gabbidon, De Laet
    Kuyt, Dempsey, Malouda, Moses
    Rooney, Van Persie, Suarez

    Ruddy, Caulker, Simpson, Ferguson

    I'd appreciate any thoughts. Cheers!

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    1. RmS
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      Sorry dude, I have dibs on Kuyt.

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    2. Lewis - Sky Pod
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      defence is an eye-sore. downgrade Kuyt and Dempsey and get at least Kompany.

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    3. mr messi
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      You have no defence

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      1. The Milkman
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        Don't you find most defenders let you down though? This season I'm focussing on attack attack attack! I'd be surprised if I don't have one of the highest scores in the first week.

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        1. The Milkman
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          Ok, as suggested by davidbrent...

          Al-Habsi
          Alcaraz, Kompany, Gabbidon
          Sessegnon, Silva, Malouda, Moses
          Rooney, Van Persie, Suarez

          Ruddy, De Laet, Wilkinson, Ferguson

          Is this better??

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          1. Duckbill
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            Porbably asking too much with 3 wigan players, also would hate to rely on that bench.

            I would drop alcaraz and get a more attacking defender from a slighlty better team if you go with this article, maybe a wolves or sunderland defender.

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  19. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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    Paul Scholes wouldn’t get off the bench at Real or Barcelona, his entire career!

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    1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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      Bah, double post.

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      1. Cheggers
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        shut up you t1t

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    2. The Bandit
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      Idiot! I'm not a Utd fan.

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    3. applebonkers
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      ridiculous comment. he would have got the odd copa del ray match

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      1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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        hahaha, perhaps.

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    4. Chazza
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      Next time you troll, try a better name to post comments with.

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      1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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        I'm not trolling.

        Barca beat ManUnited 3-1

        Chivas Guadalajara beat Barca 4-1

        Therefore, Chivas Guadalajara > ManUnited

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  20. markus808
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    What's the worst team you guys can come up with using all the assets? I will try to post mine soon...

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    1. MC
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      Not sure why i've done this.. I guess boredom is the answer, but FPL-Wise, this is what i've come up with:

      Gomes-Fabianski

      Kolarov-Djourou-Riise-Corluka-Ferreira

      Lee-Essien-Barry-Cole-Fletcher

      Torres-Chamakh-Crouch

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      1. fatherted
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        Welcome to league position 2'500'000/2'5000'000 lol

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      2. CFCTom
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        Torres? I'll let you away with Essien because he's injured and Ferreira becasue he rarely plays, but Torres? Have a word with yourself mate.

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    2. markus808
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      Almunia/Gomez
      Carragher, Squillaci, Kolarov, Cant decide really too many options
      Barry, Cole, Fletcher, Gamst-Pedersen, One missing
      Anelka, Torres, Defoe

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  21. Sasquatch
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    X-Ray on Coleman reveals no break. Scan on Monday. Not that many on here would have him anyway...

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  22. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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    List of players that are ALREADY better than Paul Scholes:

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    1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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      1. Scott Parker - has more player of the year awards than Paul Scholes

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      1. Cheggers
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        +1, I think Parker is better than Scholes. Better football in every way.

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        1. bishbosher
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          Ridiculous.

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          1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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            *bite*

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      2. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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        2. Jack Wilshere

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        1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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          3. Fat Frank

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          1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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            4. Lee Clattermole

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            1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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              5. David Beckham

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              1. Jas aka The age of Ozil is …
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                6. Denilson

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          2. CFCTom
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            Best ever English midfielder, at his peak the best player in the world and he's not fat. Easily better than anyone else on your list.

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            1. Leysh
              • 14 Years
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              And that's from a Chelsea fan - Respect! 😀

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      3. Gargamel
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        When you're out trolling manchester united fans and nobody bites you're having a stinker

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        1. HST
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          +1, file Jas under Needlevor, Tazri, Team Hayemaker, Lazybones 18.

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    2. Lewis - Sky Pod
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      Djemba-Djemba
      Kleberson

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  23. ViperStripes
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    lampard or malouda

    the extra 2mill would come in handy.

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    1. RmS
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      You have answered your own question.

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      1. ViperStripes
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        but is Lampy boy worth 2mill more?

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        1. RmS
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          Yes. Probably. But I never learn, thus I don't have him.

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  24. bishbosher
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    Does anyone think Kompany isnt a good choice with the new bonus system?

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    1. Demí
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      I don't. Clean sheets > Bonus Points

      That's the bigger picture after all.

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      1. The Bandit
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        Unless they win 4-0

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    2. applebonkers
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      would never say he's a bad choice but i think he's a safe choice as opposed to a great one

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    3. Sasquatch
      • 16 Years
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      Still a good buy imo. £6m for a nailed on defender from the team with most clean sheets last season? He'll be in my XI next Saturday. The BPs would have been a bonus (no pun inteneded), but I'd been discounting them as a factor this summer anyway, given the vagueness of the new system.

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      1. bishbosher
        • 14 Years
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        I have just read the article on the main page and seems that defenders who aren't scoring goals or assisting wont get a look in, bonus wise. Kompany is something like the least goal threatening defender so is making me think that a max of six points a game for 6 mil may not be worth it. Bit annoying as he has been nailed on from the start!

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        1. HST
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          How many goals are you expecting for a defender for 6.0?

          It does what it says on the tin.

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        2. Sasquatch
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          He certainly won't get a look in if City win 3-0 and Aguero, Silva and Yaya all score and assist (for example).... But then, under the old BP system, with the same scoreline, scorers and assisters, how likely would Kompany have been to receive BPs? Not very. So what's changed?

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          1. HST
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            • 16 Years
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            What if Baines doesn't take any penalties or dead balls as Arteta hits form?

            What if Chelsea win but don't keep CS's?

            Kompany looks pretty good value in the best and worst case scenarios.

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          2. bishbosher
            • 14 Years
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            Fair point. back to the drawing board, wouldn't mind a few goals from a defender across a season, kompany aint scoring jack thought although ive probably now cursed it

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            1. HST
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              • 16 Years
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              Goal from defenders are like a scratch card win, pure bonus, plan around clean sheets.

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          3. CFCTom
            • 14 Years
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            Why are people suddenly so concerned with bonus points? Just pick players who are good, bonus points are a bonus, going out of your way to get them is crazy, crazy like a fox.

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      2. The3rdTurd
        • 14 Years
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        Man City defenders:

        Kolarov 6.5
        Lescott 6.5
        Richards 6.0
        Zabaleta 6.0
        Kompany 6.0
        Clichy 6.0
        Onuoha 5.0
        Savic 5.0
        Boyata 4.0

        I still don't get the Kompany love. There are plenty of other cheap Man City defender options. Why not Clichy or Richards?

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        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
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          He's the only one guaranteed to start. Having a punt on Richards myself for attacking potential.

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        2. HST
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          Yeah get Boyata and save 2.0 I don't see the Komapny love either.

          (Every.Single.Minute.Of.Every.Single.Game.)

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        3. fatherted
          • 14 Years
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          Kompany i would imagine will start pretty much every week, not sure what will happen when toure is back wk 4 onwards

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    4. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
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      Doesn't make much difference to me - I still think defenders are the best value in the game. Andy's article is very well written and good food for thought, but it doesn't sway me. The article shows that PPI goes through the roof when strikers score a couple of goals - so this would mean they will get the 3BPs. So how is this different from last season? Now let's look at the price rises from last season - Goalkeepers/Defenders reasonably stable, maybe a few have gone up 0.5. Midfielders/Forwards significant risers - they'll need the extra BPs just to keep up.

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    5. Duckbill
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      For that price i be happy just with cs points, but if they scrape a few 1-0 wins or draws he might get some bonus points. Which might just happen if tevezz leaves. The number of times he has singly handed come to save man city and our gameweeks.

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  25. The Bandit
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    You can take the Blackpool out of the Prem, but you can't take the tw@t out of the manager..

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    1. HST
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      +1 I hate that cu*t, people think he's a 'character' I think he's a gooch licking gruff nut.

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      1. Sasquatch
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        Amen Hunter.

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  26. Cheggers
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    Paul Scholes is the equivalent of a heel wrestler. Hes like Sheamus.

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  27. In Like Flynn.
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    Texaco, OK, who's got what points from their team so far?

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    1. Bare bones
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      0 i had koren. u?

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    2. applebonkers
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      nada

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  28. JCrosbie
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    jas is either a muppet or a wind-up merchant!

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    1. Sasquatch
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      The two are hardly mutually exclusive!

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      1. JCrosbie
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        ha relised that after i posted it ha

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  29. HST
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    Any Scout CLubs players on?

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    1. HST
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      Or anyone want a game of Fifa11 on the PS3?

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  30. Wtfosaurus
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    My team after a slight tinker..

    Given

    Kompany Baines Hangeland Enrique.

    Bale Silva Nzogbia Taarabt

    Van Persie Suarez.

    Anybody out there with a team that doesn't look copy and pasted from the relentless amounts of RMT's out there.. ?

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    1. HST
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      Way too much in defence mate, you need a big name midfielder for decent captaincy options.

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      1. Wtfosaurus
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        Any suggestions?
        I don't want vdv because he'll be injured within two weeks.
        Yaya ?

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        1. HST
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          Hangeland to a 4.0/4.5, Bale to Malouda or Silva.

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          1. Wtfosaurus
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            I have Silva.

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            1. HST
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              So you do, Malouda FTW...

              stk WBA NOR sun mun SWA bol EVE qpr ARS bla LIV WOL new.

              Beautiful.

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              1. Wtfosaurus
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                hmm might go Drog.

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                1. HST
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                  Not a bad shout.

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    2. RmS
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      Me.

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