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19 August 2011 1262 comments
Mark Mark
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Nothing changes. One Gameweek down and a section of us are already berating the Fantasy Premier League bonus points, questioning their award – venting frustration that the shining performances of our own players have been ignored.

We had such high hopes; the inclusion of the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index as the system that powered the bonus awards was expected to offer clarity – to reward those players who obviously stood out over 90 minutes. However, perhaps that’s an unrealistic goal; perhaps there always be a section of us destined for despair when the bonus is dished out.

From the evidence of Gameweek one, it’s clear that our love/hate relationship with the FPL bonus could very well continue – the Saturday night bafflement transferred to Monday morning, when this season’s statistically powered points arrive. Time will tell.

Having contributed the first Gameweek review at the Fantasy Premier League site, we got a glimpse as some of the statistics that contributed to the EA SPORTS PPI Gameweek totals. That brief dalliance and crucially, from the PPI totals already poured into the game from Gameweek One, a number of theories on the factors that will influence this season’s bonus point distribution have been developed further and a few more questions raised.

Hitting the Target is Crucial…
There were several PPI point totals that caused concern – in particular Fernando Torres earning 0 for his display at Stoke, Victor Moses also fetching 0 for his showing against Wigan and Andy Carroll’s -10 picked up in the 1-1 with Sunderland.

These players appear to have a couple of key factors in common and it’s perhaps the Carroll PPI which offers the most obvious guide. It appears that off target goal attempts are costly and can outweigh more positive factors and dent a players’ PPI – particularly when that player’s team fails to win the game.

Andy Carroll had many attempts on goal against Sunderland, of which only 1 found their target. His missed attempts appear to be the key factor behind his miserable day one PPI return. This was presumably compounded by the fact that Liverpool only mustered a draw against Sunderland.

Both Victor Moses and Fernando Torres also “wasted” opportunities in matches that their teams failed to win. While we’re unaware just how this is weighted against their total PPI, it appears that failing to hit the target with a goal attempt can seriously begin to dent your PPI total. Had Liverpool, Chelsea and Wigan won their matches, the PPI of these players could well have been boosted significantly.

With that in mind, Fantasy Managers may need to identify those players who gamble on firing in efforts from range – or are perhaps wasteful in front of goal.

The latter is a given – why would we invest in players who often found Row Z from six yards? Players like Clint Dempsey and Nani, however, are renowned for taking pot shots from range – it could be that, by doing so, they will damage their PPI score and, if they fail to find the net in a game, seriously hinder their chances of fetching FPL bonus points.

It could be that the algorithm is fed statistics that incorporate the nature of the missed goal attempt – it seems unlikely though and Carroll’s Gameweek one PPI appears to indicate the costly nature of wasted opportunities.

The Spread of Bonus points will be wider…
It didn’t take long to discover this. Immediately in Gameweek one we had a match at the Britannia which served up a spread of bonus across a group of players with Ashley Cole earning the maximum 3 points, while four players – John Terry, Jon Obi Mikel, Ryan Shawcross and Asmir Begovic, all collected 2 points. The Wigan vs Norwich game meanwhile saw seven players earn bonus – five earning 1 point each.

The spread was impossible to predict – created by a ties in overall PPI scores. Such an event will take some getting used to but appears to indicate that players that were previously overlooked by the PA representative (Mikel in particular) now have the opportunity to earn bonus recognition if they put in a statistical shift. A good thing? Probably.

With this in mind it’s inevitable that the overall total of bonus points dished out this season will increase and will perhaps increase quite considerably. It’s unknown how often these ties will occur but, given the apparent spread of the PPI totals in some matches, it appears like we could see at least one or two matches per Gameweek featuring such a spread – particularly in drawn matches.

Out of Position Players Could be even more valuable…
We know from the definition available on the Premier League site that the EA SPORTS PPI uses position as a weighting factor in its algorithm when it comes to clean sheets. We don’t know how much of a factor it is and whether a player’s position also influences the weighting of performance statistics. Perhaps actions that are atypical for a player’s position – a goal for a defender, a tackle for a forward – may well earn a stronger PPI return. With this in mind, we can only speculate that, if a player is played out of position, their PPI will be skewed.

For example, Gabby Agbonlahor, according to the EA INDEX statistics, put in an unnatural number of dribbles on the Villa left flank at Fulham. As he is classified as a Forward, these dribbles may have earned him a heavier PPI value than if he’d have been classified as a midfielder. As a result of his PPI return of 16, he nudged ahead of Shay Given, touted as man of the match at the Cottage, to 1 bonus point. Could it have been Agbonlahor’s position classification that helped him achieve this? Like so many of the theories discussed, we will need more Gameweeks to pass before we can firm this up.

The Bonus will remain unpredictable…
While a portion of the Gameweek one bonus awards appeared to make sense, as usual there was a decent size slab that left us puzzled and perplexed. The lack of bonus for Wes Hoolahan despite scoring at Wigan, the aforementioned snub of Fernando Torres at Stoke, these examples immediately spring to mind.

While we had the impression that the use of the EA SPORTS PPI would make the Bonus awards more predictable – perhaps even transparent, it’s already clear that this won’t be the case. We will still be nervously awaiting their arrival, unsure of their destination and left querying several awards each Gameweek.

While this will be scandalous when it affects us personally, from a distance it at least maintains the post Gameweek discussion that have become almost part and parcel of the FPL for many seasons.

For the purity and transparency of the game it’s obviously not the progress we expected – for fuelling banter and opinion however, it means little has changed. The whims of the man in the stand have been replaced with the cold secret of an algorithm – a new, faceless scapegoat for our failing Gameweek points tallies.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. zee303
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Bent + Nzobia + Hoolahan

    or

    Bent + Sinlcair + Sessegnon

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Not much in it and depends on coverage elsewhere. Double-up AV is not everyone's cup of Darjeeling, but then I don't get Sess love, despite the OOP.

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    2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      B please bob

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  2. Rough Paste 12
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    A) 3 big hitters up front and weakish midfield

    or

    B) 2 big hitters up front plus a cheapo fwd(eg.Klasnic/Fletcher)and a stronger mid with a Nani/Lamps/malouda

    Any thoughts/reasons why greatly appreciated....

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    1. Disco Pat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Rough Paste 12, i'd try 2 big hitters and decent midfield - game is generally won with the points off your midfield in my opinion, so that's option i'd go with

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      1. Rough Paste 12
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Nice one Disco P.

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  3. johnjoe
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Pick one to play this GW

    A)Brown NEW
    B)Moses swa
    C)Surman STO

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    1. Baz
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      moses

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    2. ThierryHenry
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      B- imo moses has 2 weeks to prove himself with swansea and qpr, if he doesn't show up here i don't know where he will

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  4. Rough Paste 12
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    A) 3 big hitters up front and weakish midfield

    or

    B) 2 big hitters up front plus a cheapo fwd(eg.Klasnic/Fletcher)and a stronger mid with a Nani/Lamps/malouda

    Any thoughts/reasons why greatly appreciated….

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    1. Tim Pickupski
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I think someone calculated that you get a better bang for your buck from good defenders and cheapshit attackers. Of course, last year's cheapshit attackers are no longer cheap.

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      1. Rough Paste 12
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        I dunno... Klasnic, Davies,Agbon,Johnson,Fletcher still offer value for money. Also last year the top four would all let in goals against the lower teams so no clean sheet pts for the pricey defenders.

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    2. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      What, in case we didn't see this two posts ago?

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      1. Rough Paste 12
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        repetition for emphasis matey 😉

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
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          Or perhaps a slip of the cut n paste.

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          1. Rough Paste 12
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Maybe a bit of both...

            How about a view on the post itself from the great Frazek instead of analysis of the cut n paste slippage?

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    3. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      You expect attacking returns from both, midfielders and forwards. Therefore, you can simply forget the classification. Just pick the best front 8 you can think of. It may have 0 or 3 big hitters up front.

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    4. Mr. Greedy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      B) I think gives more flexablity should a Nani or a VDV or whoever become essential.

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      1. Rough Paste 12
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Many thanks guys. I like your logic Mr Greedy

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  5. unoaime
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Yaya Toure, Taarabt, Moses, Sessegnon, Dyer
    Bent, Torres, Rooney

    1.5 to spend.

    Thinking of swapping Taarabt for someone else and upgrading Yaya Toure for Silva.

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    1. unoaime
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Thinking of downgrading Rooney to Saha now and changing Taarabt for Young.

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    2. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Either Dyer>sinclair

      or

      Taarabt>Jarvis and Moses>Osman

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  6. Tim Pickupski
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    So do we expect someone like FISO to work out the algorithm? I think we do.

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  7. Nannerz_17
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    What do people think about this back 5 for GW2?

    Hilario
    Warnock - Richards - Jagielka - Bosingwa

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    1. Tim Pickupski
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Similar!

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      1. Nannerz_17
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Think it can do the job? Full sweep of cleansheets would be very nice.

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  8. Clintymints
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    i prefare the old dartboard bonus system!

    anyways narrowed my team down to these 2 fellas

    http://www.uploadscreenshot.com/image/428403/9453879

    http://www.uploadscreenshot.com/image/428406/8900518

    also, any fun facts and figures with taarbat over sinclair and vice versa!?

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    1. MeandYouSittingInATree
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Apart from Young for Nani, your first team is exactly the same as mine....

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      1. MeandYouSittingInATree
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Woops, actually I don't have Baines. And I like the 1st one more. No need to double down on Aston Villa.

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    2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
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      First one. You could always do a H2H preview of them for old times sake and see which you think wil win. 😛

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      1. Clintymints
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        aye im favouring the first one too, but i kinda want bent!

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  9. Go_To_Sleep1
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Hey, what do people think of my team, any changes needed, Please rate my team, Thank you.

    Hilario (Vorm)
    Baines, Dunne, Brown (senderos, simpson)
    Lampard, Cahill, Sinclair, Moses (Fox)
    Rooney, Torres, Holt

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  10. tosey
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    QPR after danny simpson

    not what i wanted to hear just as my team was set!

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      No, dry up. That will not make me a happy bunny.

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      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Can't see that Newcastle would sell him. If they do, i've got cash in the bank with Steven Taylor's name on it.

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I have no surplus cash, although I have plenty stashed away in the Bank of Fat Frank. Wait n see.

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    2. Waldaz
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        swappin him for S.Taylor as we speak

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        1. ToonTom
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          I wouldnt

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    3. ToonTom
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I cannot possibly see why that deal would go through. He is first choice at a more secure Prem club.

      And I might cry if we sell anyone else we actually need!

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    4. ToonTom
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Where hear that anyway? Must be balls!

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  11. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    why are there no defenders for 1.5m???

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      They have day jobs...

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  12. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Zoggy Biscuit or Sassy Nun for the next few weeks? Already have Bent for AV attacking cover.

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      David Saliva... great dribbler.

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  13. My nipples were so cold the…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I hate this current situation!

    I have completely ripped my team apart and have done the unspeakable...I have brought Ferguson into my team to afford Lumps!

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Goodbye.

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    2. ToonTom
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Just dont do it.

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  14. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    A defeat for Everton will mean four successive opening game losses for the first time ever. The Toffees have lost six of their previous eight opening matches.

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I read that, would've happened if they had played Spurs I reckon but think the riots may just have been their saviour!

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      ouch

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  15. Yxz
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    What do you think of this team? Rules of the mini-league is that NO transfers are allowed, so this is the team I'll have for the whole season.

    Given (Ruddy)
    Kompany Clichy Baines Shawcross Simpson
    Silva Moses Nasri Sinclair Delap
    Suarez Rooney A Johnson

    Any obvious players I've missed?

    Thanks

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      for whole season pick players that aren't injury prone.

      I would go DJ Campbell upfront instead of AJ cause he could be injured and there is dembele.

      nasri sell him and delap too clischy out too for sure. vorm instead of ruddy

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    2. Matty D
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Tough league. Note that if you aren't allowed any transfers and Nasri moves to City, the FPL will force you to transfer out one of your MC players (or not let you play him) and you'll be stuck either with a smaller squad or you'll be forced to breach your league rule.

      And two MC defenders? I'd ditch Clichy - useless as FF prospect at Arsenal, ditto City.

      I'd swap Delap for a Brunt or a Taarabt or any one of the MFs kicking around in that price range.

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  16. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Young or Nani and I want reasons lol

    I'm swaying towards Young due to set pieces and recent form but is it really just toss of a coin job?????

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Nani at home

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      1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Nani is a different animal at home mmmmm

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Toss of a coin job?

      That sounds wrong wrong wrong. Nani at home!!!!!! (as FB pointed out)

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      1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Don't think I ever would just flip a coin but that's how close the choice is lol

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    3. Tommyboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Young IMO, Nani is slightly more hit and miss... Set piece value of Young means he is better prospect IMO

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Nani for me. He is not yet a brilliant traveller, but is a hot prospect at home. His use of the ball is exceptional, imo.

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    5. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      rooney

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  17. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I love how Total FPL' dreamteam done soo shit that they've decided not to total up their points.

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    1. Lucas Leiva
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      😆

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        hahhahhha, they aren't recognizing the GW1 due to the log in fiasco.

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    2. Soop
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      What was their team?

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      1. Tim Pickupski
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        A nightmare.

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    3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      The totalfpl dream team is picked based on the most popular players from the users there, and considering a lot of people here use it, you're probably insulting people here 😉

      Also, at least they stuck to the rules by having a sub keeper.

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    4. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      total fpl dream team beat the ffs scout picks.

      Just Sayin.

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  18. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    looks like i'm taking moses out of my team (GASP) for Hoolahan.. brilliant home fixtures till gw 15(which is when you wanna play your sub 6 midfielder).. Moses has horrid fixtures after gw 3 for a long while

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Did you see the Wigan - Norwich game? Moses was superb i thought

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    2. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah kind of glad I don't have him anymore, the only bonus to the free transfer fiasco I reckon, personally.

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  19. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Still making little changes to my lineup, what do you guys think...

    A - Nani, Toure, Doyle

    B - Walcott, Cleverley, Suarez

    Cheers!

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      A, but not Doyle, if you can afford Fletcher then winner.

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      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Why Fletcher over Doyle? Doyle is surely just as good + takes pens?

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  20. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    senderos... seems a bargain... is he cemented into the fulham defence??

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      No, but that makes him more mobile.

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    2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He wouldn't be any less mobile if he was 😛

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Touche.

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      guys, i need a proper answer! will he play medium/long term??

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Perhaps not - we don't know yet. It is a risk ...

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      2. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Disp Dan, then you shouldn't ask such humour-loaded questions? Agree with Doosra.

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  21. dcarlito
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Collins, Warnock or Dunne? 0.5 no object. i.e. who has more potential for bp and goals?

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    1. Tim Pickupski
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Warnock used to push up a lot at Blackburn and sit back down (on the bench) at Villa.

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    2. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I think Collins is most likely to score, but I've gone for Warnock based on his PPI from last week and he likes to get forward regularly so may sneak an assist

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      1. dcarlito
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        PPI for the two was actually the same - 15. I'll go for warnock, agree on the assist possiblity re warnock tho.

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  22. Fratboy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Does anyone know or has known any footballers? A guy I went to school with just scored twice for Rotherham this season, Gareth Evans 🙂

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Jolly spiffing.

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    2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Colin Heath, went to ManU Acadamy, but looks like he never made it:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Heath

      Apparently our Primary School won the Derbyshire Dales Primary school tournament the year he was in Y6. there were 30 people in our primary school. He was very good.

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    3. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      James Scowcroft went to my school, and i once played against Titus Bramble. He was upfront, makes a lot of sense now.

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  23. som3awy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone thinking of using the wildcard in GW4? There's a two week international break. It can be a great chance to make a lot of money!!

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    1. Mr. Greedy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Having just had a wildcard I was really hoping to hang on a little longer than GW4.

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    2. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      That's my plan. There's a few teams with brilliant fixtures these next two weeks, so I'll load up on them and sort it out again GW4.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Citeh and Arsenal stand out big time from GW4 onwards. Very tempting to WC then

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        1. miggy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          yup nice idea

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        2. Bubbles
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Yup, that's my thinking, along with a few other smaller points. A pretty amazing team can be set up for just these two weeks, 11 at home this week & 8/9 home the next.

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  24. Voronin
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I am happy enough with my squad now, whats the views on the subs for this week?

    Given
    Brown, Bosingwa, Richards
    N'Zog, Cahill, Downing, Silva
    Graham, Rooney, Suarez

    Subs: Vorm, Surman, Senderos, Enrique (in that order)

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    1. Tim Pickupski
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      My view: Meh.

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      1. Voronin
        • 16 Years
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        Insightful. Ta.

        Also, this current trend of saying 'meh' in forums is well annoying. Not a dig at you, just a view.

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      my view ~ LIKE

      eXCEPT NO CHE

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      1. Voronin
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, the no Chelsea attacking thing is a concern, i just realy want everyone else.

        I may swap Downing for a Chelski Mid, I just dont think i can afford one.

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    3. shermanater
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      fat robbie savage
      your just a fat robbie savage

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      1. Voronin
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        He is just a gay Voronin!

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  25. 4toon31
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Vorm Young Sinclair?

    or

    Al-Habsi Bale Taarabt/Ramsey?

    Both keepers being second choice behind given.

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    1. Disco Pat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Beaver46 I'd go with the worm young sinclair option. I've two of them three along with given.

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  26. tommys
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    theres something wrong....justin bibers new tune with chris brown isnt half bad after all

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  27. unoaime
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Start Moses or Dyer?

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    1. hunkydory
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Moses

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Dyer. Home.

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  28. Go_To_Sleep1
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Torres and Cahill or Bent and Young???

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    1. Tim Pickupski
      • 16 Years
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      No.

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    2. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
      • 16 Years
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      The first one because:
      a) I have them both
      b) the second option is making me snigger way too much

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bent Nani?

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      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Young Bent Nani = unforfilled Mary poppins fantsies 😛

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Errr ... fulfilled, actually!!! 😉

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          1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 8 months ago

            Damn that's some poor spelling from me. Discipline me Mary!

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    4. Voronin
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      That's not really apples with apples.

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    5. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      I have all four, but the first two.

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    6. Locked&Bloated
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Torres and Cahill imo

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  29. MeandYouSittingInATree
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Sinclair or Jarvis? Or another 6m midfielder?

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Jarvis.

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      1. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Sinclair

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  30. Avon Barksdale
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Is briggs gonna start now riise's out?

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    1. Disco Pat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Avon Barsdale, what happened riise?

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      The wrong Riise is out ...

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      1. Frazek
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        So Riise's is in pieces?

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