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19 August 2011 1262 comments
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Nothing changes. One Gameweek down and a section of us are already berating the Fantasy Premier League bonus points, questioning their award – venting frustration that the shining performances of our own players have been ignored.

We had such high hopes; the inclusion of the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index as the system that powered the bonus awards was expected to offer clarity – to reward those players who obviously stood out over 90 minutes. However, perhaps that’s an unrealistic goal; perhaps there always be a section of us destined for despair when the bonus is dished out.

From the evidence of Gameweek one, it’s clear that our love/hate relationship with the FPL bonus could very well continue – the Saturday night bafflement transferred to Monday morning, when this season’s statistically powered points arrive. Time will tell.

Having contributed the first Gameweek review at the Fantasy Premier League site, we got a glimpse as some of the statistics that contributed to the EA SPORTS PPI Gameweek totals. That brief dalliance and crucially, from the PPI totals already poured into the game from Gameweek One, a number of theories on the factors that will influence this season’s bonus point distribution have been developed further and a few more questions raised.

Hitting the Target is Crucial…
There were several PPI point totals that caused concern – in particular Fernando Torres earning 0 for his display at Stoke, Victor Moses also fetching 0 for his showing against Wigan and Andy Carroll’s -10 picked up in the 1-1 with Sunderland.

These players appear to have a couple of key factors in common and it’s perhaps the Carroll PPI which offers the most obvious guide. It appears that off target goal attempts are costly and can outweigh more positive factors and dent a players’ PPI – particularly when that player’s team fails to win the game.

Andy Carroll had many attempts on goal against Sunderland, of which only 1 found their target. His missed attempts appear to be the key factor behind his miserable day one PPI return. This was presumably compounded by the fact that Liverpool only mustered a draw against Sunderland.

Both Victor Moses and Fernando Torres also “wasted†opportunities in matches that their teams failed to win. While we’re unaware just how this is weighted against their total PPI, it appears that failing to hit the target with a goal attempt can seriously begin to dent your PPI total. Had Liverpool, Chelsea and Wigan won their matches, the PPI of these players could well have been boosted significantly.

With that in mind, Fantasy Managers may need to identify those players who gamble on firing in efforts from range – or are perhaps wasteful in front of goal.

The latter is a given – why would we invest in players who often found Row Z from six yards? Players like Clint Dempsey and Nani, however, are renowned for taking pot shots from range – it could be that, by doing so, they will damage their PPI score and, if they fail to find the net in a game, seriously hinder their chances of fetching FPL bonus points.

It could be that the algorithm is fed statistics that incorporate the nature of the missed goal attempt – it seems unlikely though and Carroll’s Gameweek one PPI appears to indicate the costly nature of wasted opportunities.

The Spread of Bonus points will be wider…
It didn’t take long to discover this. Immediately in Gameweek one we had a match at the Britannia which served up a spread of bonus across a group of players with Ashley Cole earning the maximum 3 points, while four players – John Terry, Jon Obi Mikel, Ryan Shawcross and Asmir Begovic, all collected 2 points. The Wigan vs Norwich game meanwhile saw seven players earn bonus – five earning 1 point each.

The spread was impossible to predict – created by a ties in overall PPI scores. Such an event will take some getting used to but appears to indicate that players that were previously overlooked by the PA representative (Mikel in particular) now have the opportunity to earn bonus recognition if they put in a statistical shift. A good thing? Probably.

With this in mind it’s inevitable that the overall total of bonus points dished out this season will increase and will perhaps increase quite considerably. It’s unknown how often these ties will occur but, given the apparent spread of the PPI totals in some matches, it appears like we could see at least one or two matches per Gameweek featuring such a spread – particularly in drawn matches.

Out of Position Players Could be even more valuable…
We know from the definition available on the Premier League site that the EA SPORTS PPI uses position as a weighting factor in its algorithm when it comes to clean sheets. We don’t know how much of a factor it is and whether a player’s position also influences the weighting of performance statistics. Perhaps actions that are atypical for a player’s position – a goal for a defender, a tackle for a forward – may well earn a stronger PPI return. With this in mind, we can only speculate that, if a player is played out of position, their PPI will be skewed.

For example, Gabby Agbonlahor, according to the EA INDEX statistics, put in an unnatural number of dribbles on the Villa left flank at Fulham. As he is classified as a Forward, these dribbles may have earned him a heavier PPI value than if he’d have been classified as a midfielder. As a result of his PPI return of 16, he nudged ahead of Shay Given, touted as man of the match at the Cottage, to 1 bonus point. Could it have been Agbonlahor’s position classification that helped him achieve this? Like so many of the theories discussed, we will need more Gameweeks to pass before we can firm this up.

The Bonus will remain unpredictable…
While a portion of the Gameweek one bonus awards appeared to make sense, as usual there was a decent size slab that left us puzzled and perplexed. The lack of bonus for Wes Hoolahan despite scoring at Wigan, the aforementioned snub of Fernando Torres at Stoke, these examples immediately spring to mind.

While we had the impression that the use of the EA SPORTS PPI would make the Bonus awards more predictable – perhaps even transparent, it’s already clear that this won’t be the case. We will still be nervously awaiting their arrival, unsure of their destination and left querying several awards each Gameweek.

While this will be scandalous when it affects us personally, from a distance it at least maintains the post Gameweek discussion that have become almost part and parcel of the FPL for many seasons.

For the purity and transparency of the game it’s obviously not the progress we expected – for fuelling banter and opinion however, it means little has changed. The whims of the man in the stand have been replaced with the cold secret of an algorithm – a new, faceless scapegoat for our failing Gameweek points tallies.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Captain_Birdseye
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    My team is looking very blue. 2 Chelsea, 2 everton, 2 man city, 1 wigan.

    It's making me think i've not varied my team enough, can't resist tinkering with it! 😀

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    1. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Blue is the colour.

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Wigan overkill 😛

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  2. keotes
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I have lampard and torres…. thinking of captaining Lampard instead…

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    1. Romford Pele - Don't w…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      +1

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  3. Ryes brethern Magic
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Bonus points have always been horseshit, but a good part of the game.

    These new developments are typical FPL- if it's broke, make it broker.

    For such small points (1 2 and 3) the amount of effort they're putting in with this EA bullshit tells me they probably intend to expand this over the next couple of seasons so the EA PPI rubbish has even more impact on scoring.

    The simple solution for these bonus points is to have the commentators pick the three best players., i've been saying it for years. Maybe they'll listen to me one day, Mark finally listened to me with the separate RMT thread proposals- it only took four years 🙂

    For me though, i'm so glad i picked a metro team this season for the first time. Real cash prizes, a simple interface, and understandable scoring, and rewards for good planning (no wildcards). Hopefully this EA shit will be done away with for next season, and a decent cash prize installed, then i'll spend more time on FPL. For this season though, it'll be nothing more than a casual interest as im in a free league with mates. The real time will be spent on Metro.

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    1. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      But the metro game is based even more heavily on a stats scoring system

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    2. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      There wont be a cash prize whilst you can enter from all over the world

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    3. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Quite often I think the commentators are full of nonsense.

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  4. jhill89
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    In regards to this article I'm thinking of doing N'Zogbia to Ramires, giving me 0.5 to spare, is it worth it?

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      no.nzog

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Don't be silly. Get back to the drawing board.

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  5. mvtaylor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Given (Vorm)
    Kompany, Cashley, Hughes (Olsson, Simpson)
    Moses, Silva, Sinclair, O'Hara (Taarabt)
    Bent, Carroll, Torres

    Oh how I have HATED this gameweek...

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    1. mvtaylor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      thoughts etc please.

      I have tried to aim for long term fixture form and not picked players at risk of a massive price crash should they have one bad week, although in some cases it's still unavoidable I'm not sold on Suarez with his fixtures or Aguero being nailed on / able to repeat performances.

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  6. EvilWhiskas
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    RMT Please?

    Given (Ruddy)
    Richards Baines Senderos (Simpson, S Taylor)
    Sinclair, Formica, Larson, Silva (Ferguson)
    Torres (C), Aguerro, Bent

    0.5 in the bank, if chelsea confirm which keeper will play will swap Given for them.

    Also A) Baines, Larson, Bent
    or B) Collins, Nzogbia, Rooney

    Thanks!

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    1. nathanholt75
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      A

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      You can be pretty sure Hilario will start.

      And I would pick A.

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      1. EvilWhiskas
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, updated team and thats left 1mil in the bank too! If torres is rubbish in comes rooney.

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  7. nathanholt75
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Who should I lose Torres, Rooney or Bent?

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    1. Microeconomics
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bent

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  8. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    bale , downing or dempsey

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  9. halnone
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone thinking of getting Dempsey? 2 goals yesterday. Definitely on my radar now

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  10. Microeconomics
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    So, what do we all think about Chelsea's defense now???
    Will Brainslav Ivanovic come straight back into the team and is Bosingwa a starter???

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    1. CFCTom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Bosingwa Terry Cole
      Luiz, Ivanovic and Alex competing for other CB position imo.

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  11. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Baines or Timmy?

    I don't know why but I am not that fond of Baines

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    1. Leysh
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah I'm not feeling Baines either. I've gone for Tim

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        other opinion?

        I fully expect Eve to concede but if they score it will be after Baines cross/ free kick right?

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        1. Leysh
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          That's definitely a hopeful way of seeing it, sounds like you're trying to convince yourself to get Baines 😛

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Both.

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  12. Ryes brethern Magic
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    jesus, wheres all the old regulars? scanned through 4 pages and recognised noone!

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    1. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Difficult to get a word in!

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      to many sheep only asking asking and the pages r flying.

      probably all of them r lurking 😉

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    3. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      posts going so quick, it's silly

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  13. @BigChrisso
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    B

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  14. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    this final decision doin my head in..
    A)Baines + Taraabt
    B)A.Cole + Osman
    C)Enrique + Silva

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      tough call. i am 4 b but i am che and cashley fan

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      1. Valar(Keith)
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        :).. Taraabt could be brunt in option A too.. All of them look brilliant to me.. is osman a sure starter this season? any potential? he blossomed with the absence of arteta last season

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  15. Smudger’s Dirty Dozen
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Looking at a MID range from £5.5m to £8m to swap for Jarvis.

    Already have Moses, Y. Toure, N'Zog & Sinclair...

    Team posted earlier in thread

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  16. MADE IN CHARLTON
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    What with the Wes Brown love? 😕

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      utd fans 😆

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    2. Leysh
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He played really well against Liverpool on the weekend.

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    3. samcro
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      It's a toss up for me between him and Senderos.

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      He is a cracking Defender. Sunderland clean sheets potential. No. 26 in the EA Sports Index ...

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  17. samcro
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Right I've ditched Aguero for Rooney.

    How is the balance now? (I know my midfield is cr@p)

    Given Vorm
    A.Cole Baines Brown (De laet, Simpson)
    Yaya Sessegnon Moses O'Hara (Dyer)
    Rooney Torres(c) Bent

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    1. zee303
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Quite similar to mine

      Maybe swap Cole for Bosingwa and strengthen Mid?

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  18. Boro223
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Baines and Dempsey?
    Or
    Distin and Malouda?

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  19. jimmythegent
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Hey guys,

    This looks really easy when its typed up but...

    A) Saha and Nzogbia?

    or

    B) Suarez and 5.5 mid?

    A is the most balanced but just really fancy Suarez to run riot... hes going to be a bonus point darling this season and Saha is a crock.

    Thoughts?

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    1. Microeconomics
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      go for Suarez

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      if u feel about suarez go for him

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      1. jimmythegent
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        cheers mate, yeh always go with the gut. Certainly head vs heart this one

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  20. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    van persie

    on set pieces and pens

    without cesc yes but everythig will now go through van persie

    value or not

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      torn... had him week one, just got Rooney

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  21. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    a) Brunt (benched this week) then STK, nor, swa, FUL, sun, WOL, avl
    or
    b) O'Hara/Jarvis (played over Stearman this week) then avl, TOT, QPR, liv, NEW, wba, SWA
    Thoughts?

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  22. Ibracadabra
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anybody else thinking of using WC in Gameweek 4?

    First international break - injuries
    First international break - 2 week beak and potential double risers
    Transfer window closed

    Manchester City and Arsenal fixtures begin to look great from GW4 so the likes of Aguero, RVP can be brought in..

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    1. Ibracadabra
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Torn between keeping my team that I built all summer - "long term" team versus taking advantage of this situation and planning a 2-week team only (with the likes of Hilario, Bosingwa, Torres, etc.) and then playing WC in game week 4 potentially with a decent sized mini-league lead....

      OR - Playing it "Safe" and not going with the guys I know I'll have to switch out in the future like Hilario, Torres, etc. and instead staying on course... Fascinating stuff, this.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        wc gw 4

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  23. eggvillan
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Please RMT guys

    Given (Ruddy)
    Jagielka, Riise, Warnock (Huth, De Laet)
    Sessegnon, Sinclair, Yaya Toure, Malouda (Moses)
    Holt, Rooney, Bent

    1M in the bank so i can do something like swap Bent for Aguero if Bent doesnt pan out and when Aguero is more of a lock

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  24. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    malouda is the worst value along with adam

    so over priced

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  25. Tails
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Right:

    Baines and kalou

    or

    Hughes (ful) and malouda??

    Didn't see it but apparently malouda was garbage last week??? normally am a fan though.

    thoughts appreciated.

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  26. Dago
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    I am concerned about my defence

    Bosingwa Kompany Baines (DeLaet, Simpson)

    Is it better to drop one of them and upgrade subs to say Senderos and Brown?

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    1. zee303
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Same defence as me. Starting 3 should be good for it. A bit concerend after i swapped Cole for Bosingwa that he won't start.

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  27. @BigChrisso
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Lose Malouda, get Torres

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    1. eggvillan
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      so, you mean -

      (a) Malouda / Bent

      (b) ??????? (10.5 or below) / Torres

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  28. Johnny Unitas
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Good morning or afternoon by fantasy football brethren.

    Today I will mostly be wearing shorts, t-shirt and multi-coloured Vans.

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  29. Gommy
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    Having a bit of a dilemma...

    Rooney & Taraabt (currently picked)

    or

    Torres & Nzogbia?

    Cheers,

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  30. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    whats bale's most likely position this season left full back or left mid

    would help me decide if hes value at 8 mill

    cheers

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