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12 September 2011 1992 comments
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Before all the Rooney vice-captains come into play and we can concentrate on European endeavours for a couple of days we’ve got the Joey Barton of all match-ups.

The prickly character sees us open the Dugout Discussion as manager Neil Warnock hands him the armband against his old side Newcastle – not one to flounce under the radar, clearly. QPR are in fact rocking a whole host of new signings while Alan Pardew recalls Shola Ameobi in place of Peter Lovenkrands. Sides in full are…

QPR XI: Kenny; Young, Gabbidon, Ferdinand, Traore; Barton, Derry, Faurlin, Taarabt, Wright-Phillips; Bothroyd.

Newcastle XI: Krul; Simpson, S. Taylor, Coloccini, R. Taylor; Obertan, Tiote, Cabaye, Gutierrez; Best, Ameobi.

Let us close the gameweek together in the Dugout Discussion and watch the sparks fly.

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  1. Cruicky
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Won my H2H by 1pt, 59-58! Too tense.

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    1. It's 1879...
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      I'm on for a 1pt victory (depending on bonuses) too. Nervous...

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
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      BAPS.......

      I am only 6 pts clear of this;

      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/56258/event-history/4/

      Saylor and Taarabt better get me BAPS

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      1. It's 1879...
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        That almost all-QPR team is both mental and genius!

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          And trully terrifying if you have to face it. I was scared throughout the game, imagine if QPR had actually scored

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          1. It's 1879...
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            They're stuffed when they travel to Old Trafford or Eastlands though

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  2. Holy See
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    Roight, Oi've had a look at the game tonight, & I'm not sure I want any of either lot in my precious XI for now. Best does look sharp, QPR do look like they could do well at home if they actually had someone who could score. & Simpson is a star 🙂

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  3. markus808
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    SWP, barton or taraabt for n'zog?

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    1. Syd.
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      None.. Nzog has some nice fixtures coming up

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      1. markus808
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        thats an option

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    2. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      SWP on tonights performance

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  4. applebonkers
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    by the way this s.taylor bps thing is largely based on past precedent this season on top of the tamest header on target by they all seem to count as 1 under EA's wonderful system. don't see why he gets the nod over collocini on the baps but so far he has so basing prediction on that.

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  5. MJ6987
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Is RVP > Aguero a sensible move (form over fixtures) or is that too kneejerk? What are others doing?

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    1. bossa
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      Yes most definitely

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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        aguero or dzeko?

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        1. MJ6987
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          14 years, 8 months ago

          Already got the Jeck so would be covering all bases there (surely!). Think Dzeko has to start with Aguero this weekend, barring CL injury.

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          1. Desange
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            is aguero and dzeko overkill?

            also bent for hernandez?

            might wait for champions league matches first to be honest..

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            1. MJ6987
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              I'll definately wait till after the CL games - could be injuries

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    2. Tommy J
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      As long as you are prepared for the agony of him being rested.

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      1. MJ6987
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, although I can't see Aguero being rested much given his price (and ability). Dzeko may be rested a fair bit, especially at home

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        1. Tommy J
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          14 years, 8 months ago

          That logic is based on? I think Mancini will carry on rotating his 3 strikers(I mean his main one's with the odd Carling cup match for Ballotelli)

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          1. MJ6987
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            Dzeko gives them something different away from home - I think he will be used a lot for that and in Europe. I think I am right on this one

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    3. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      RVP getting another week in my team. I have Roo and also Silva for city coverage and would have Aguero in a minute if I knew what was going through Mancinis head but who knows who'll play next week

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      1. MJ6987
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        That's the dilemma - the logical thing is to keep RVP with a game against Blackburn but without Fab and Nas he is not getting the service this year, whereas City are capable of mullering anyone

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      2. The Glory Hunters
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        Painfully I brought in RVP for Aguero based on fixtures and potential rotation. It would be bad for me to jump back - right? Not sure I could bear an Aguero rest and RVP goal.

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  6. Tommy J
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    One thing tonight's game showed-Simpson is a far better defender than R Taylor and so the latter must be at risk with Santon, despite his odd free kick.

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      is r taylor a risk? I have him in my team

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      1. Tommy J
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        There's been a lot of talk on here as to who out of Simpson and R Taylor he will replace. He has more recently been a left back(but has also played right back)and so R TAylor looks like he might be at risk.

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    2. applebonkers
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      it's a matter of when not if r.taylor is getting dropped imo. only thing delaying it is santon has come from serie a and hasn't had a lot of football lately.

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      1. Tommy J
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        I guess they will want to ease him in to the Premier League

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    3. It's 1879...
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      Almost definitely Santon will replace Ryan Taylor and not Simpson. RTaylor's versatility makes him a good sub too...

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  7. mahone24
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    I see lots of people are getting rid of Sess but he hasnt been awful and its not like theres a Charlie Adam (of last year) or a Brunt tearing up the early stages. Im sitting. Am I missing an obvious budget midfielder who has excelled so far?

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    1. MikeyMitz
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I'd keep him if I had him. He'll come good- he's come very close. Same way I feel about Moses and Taarabt

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      1. MikeyMitz
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        And Sinclair...probably getting him in this week. Maybe one of his shots will hit the other side of the bar and drop in???

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    2. Kostja
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      I like Sess if he stays on the pitch, because he should take pens now too. And the fixtures look nice after the stoke game.

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  8. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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    too much grunting in this match, more like womans tennis to be honest

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  9. njfsdkffslkf
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Nadal Pumped. Great to see

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    1. AP
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      -1 Djokovic is arrogant.

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      1. Drip Doctor
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        I love a bit of arrogance.

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        1. Drip Doctor
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          Plus, have you seen his wife!?

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          1. AP
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            He's a world famous tennis player. She's not exactly going to be a porker.

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            1. Drip Doctor
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              I wouldn't flick Mrs Federes bean.

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      2. Goose
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        This.

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  10. Salah’s Sonnet
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Hiya lads, just a quick question.

    Players prices increase, we know this, but when you transfer them out, aren't we supposed to get half the increase back when trasnferring out players?

    take dzeko for eample, i've got him at 8.7, however, now he's 8.9, doesnt that mean im supposed to get 0.1 back as part of the returned increase?

    at the moment im getting nothing in return.

    any help/advice well appreciated 🙂

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    1. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Did you pay £8.7m for him? If so your value should now be shown as £8.8m on your team list which is the value to you, if you want to buy someone else.

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Hiya mate, no i paid 8.5 for dzeko, yet im getting absolutely nothing back for him when i transfer him out.

        Wait...i think thats right then aint it? i got him for 8.5 but now when transferring him out i get 8.7 for him, lol i think thats right aint it? im getting half the increase aren't i?

        duhh, feel a right dick now if thats right 🙂

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        1. Tommy J
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          Yep-I guessed you had maybe missed something....

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          1. Salah’s Sonnet
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            haha! cheers man, feel a true idiot right now haha!

            thanks again 🙂

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  11. njfsdkffslkf
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    One of the best points ever there. Amazing by Nadal

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    1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      + what a match (grunting still annoying though as Mrs trying to sleep while I'm watching tennis)

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  12. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    s.taylor hasn't got a shot on the stats 😯 potential tragedy. it happened, it really happened. it was a pea rolling piece of poo but it happened

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  13. MJ6987
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    The first good thing happened to my team tonight (literally) - 2 Newc clean sheets! 1.74 millionth before tonight (after top 500 finish last year!!)

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
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      Don't worry. Their's lots and lots of us on here in the same position! The cream will rise to the top

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  14. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    nasri leading assist chart with a young with 4 assists for man city this season

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    1. markus808
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      young got his from rooneys free-kicks

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  15. Hybrid.power
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Taarabt bonus?

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    1. Leysh
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I think he'll get some

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  16. Mole
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    BPs for Krul?

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    1. Tommy J
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Good point-I think he held on to the ball longer than any other player.....

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      1. Mole
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        must be in with a shout

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  17. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    collocini figuring highly in the stats. only way s.taylor will get the nod over him is if they value clearances where he's dominating.
    no newcastle mid had a shot on target.
    SWP had 1 shot on target out of 5, not great news at all.
    really hard to call. i'd guess 3 of taarabt, collocini, s.taylor, simpson and gabbidon

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      it was a 0-0 draw so liable for all 5 to get bps

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    2. Goose
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I'd love some D.Gab bappage after anyone who had him got rid after his first outing, I deserve it having had to deal with that!

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      1. Le Bluff
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Same here!

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  18. It's 1879...
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    I'm surprised the FFS people didn't come up with a headline such as 'Dzeko and Hide' after his non-selection this w/e. Four-goal fantasy gold one week, bench warming fool's gold the next...

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    1. Cruicky
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Like it.

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  19. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    how did cabaye play

    a better option than hunt or ohara

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  20. Syd.
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    This tennis is amazing

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    1. The Gambler.
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      agreed, two top class players.

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      1. Holy See
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Great game. Might go on a while this one...

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  21. Kostja
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Which one of Sunderland or Wolves look like getting more clean sheets this year?

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      Or wigan. Im deciding between Mignolet, Hennessy or Al Habsi

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    2. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      sunderland but its close

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      1. That's Groß
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        wolves by a mile

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      2. Kostja
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        thanks im leaning that way, I think wolves have gotten lucky and have had the best fixtures.

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    3. Cruicky
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      I'd say Wolves, Roger Johnson has added that solidity at the back.

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  22. Mull
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    53 points this week with potential Simpson BP's and maybe get a few more points if Walcott's assist is added. 😉

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    1. Sam (Team Sam)
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      71 after vice-captain goes to Silva (was Dzeko), + possible Simpson bonus

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  23. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone tempted by Boyata? A 4.0 option at Bolton can't be bad - yes they have been shipping goals, but they've played Liverpool, City and United - the best 3 going forward (and beat QPR 4-0).

    PLUS he rotates pretty much perfectly with Simpson ...

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      i have both good option

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 8 months ago

        That's decided then, Boyata in for Smalling this week 😀

        Think United may well get a clean sheet in two or more of their next three, but Smalling aint guaranteed a start any more (especially when Vidic comes back) 🙁 And also that gives me just enough for Suarez -> RVP ...

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      2. Kostja
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        I have my eye on him. If his still starting after gw7 than ill get him in.

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  24. Stat virgin
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Simpson:

    Week 1: Bench, cleansheet
    Week 2: Bench, cleansheet
    Week 3: Play, yellow 87th minute, loses clean sheet in 88th minute
    Week 4: Bench, cleansheet

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    1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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      exact same here

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      1. Goose
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Me too, don't think we'll alone!

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      2. Goose
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        14 years, 8 months ago

        Me too, don't think we'll be alone!

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    2. Sam (Team Sam)
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      Dzeko not playing has been a blessing in disguise, with Silva getting the armband and Simpson coming on as first sub

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    3. The Holy One
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      14 years, 8 months ago

      I had the same but luckily I played him today.

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  25. greghammer95
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    *Shameless Plug*

    My weekend Analysis.

    http://footballorbust.wordpress.com/2011/09/12/the-weekend-analysis-gameweek-4/

    And something about Championship Fantasy...

    http://footballorbust.wordpress.com/2011/09/12/championship-fantasy-football-an-introduction/

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    1. That's Groß
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      some shameless typo's and bad grammar in there too

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      1. greghammer95
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        You Betcha there is 😆 I'm getting there, though.

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah content first then corrections second should be your priorities, and your content is good.
          However typos do matter, think of listening to a lecture by someone with a bad speech impediment, that's how typos read. If in doubt run an autocorrect/spellchecker over it. Or just leave it 5 mins, have a cup of tea and then re-read it quickly, things will pop out at you.
          I do like the speed you get articles out, very commendable.

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          1. greghammer95
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            14 years, 8 months ago

            Advice well and truly taken.

            I do have a tendency to just post it, rather than re-read, but a 5 minute tea break like you say would be an idea.

            And thanks (y) Should be another one tomorrow 🙂

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            1. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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              If you really want, I'll proof read it for you.

              Again.

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    2. Attila the Bum
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      Good work Greg.

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  26. njfsdkffslkf
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Amazing tennis. 1 game still going over 13min

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  27. RoysCallerAnne
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    oooh, just read the previous page. The Dzeko (c) Rooney (vc) thing hadn't even crossed my mind.
    What was it 380,000 Dzeko transfers in?? I bet at least 200,000 of those had Rooney (vc)...bad times (Complete makey uppy stat BTW)

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  28. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 8 months ago

    cabaye did he play well ?

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    1. JayBomb
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 8 months ago

      No I'm selling him

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  29. JayBomb
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Can anyone tell me why Brunt didn't play against Norwich ???

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      rested

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  30. Davido989
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    14 years, 8 months ago

    Doing RVP to Hernandez & Suarez to Rooney...

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