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6 November 2011 2158 comments
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The final batch of Premier League fixtures before another international break, has three games closing out Gameweek 11. Not the biggest box office attractions on offer today it has to be said, but the Dugout Discussion is open for business regardless.

We start at Molineux with a tussle between two sides with the worst current form in the league, as Wolves play host to Wigan. With just a solitary point between them in their last six games, it’s no surprise to see them threatening the wrong end of the table. Here is the team news for the game that already qualifies for “six-pointer” status…

Wolves XI: Hennessey, Stearman, Johnson, Berra, Ward, Edwards, Henry, Guedioura, Hunt, O’Hara, Doyle.

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Boyce, Gohouri, Figueroa, Alcaraz, Watson, Moses, Diame, Jones, Di Santo, Rodallega.

Mick McCarthy names an unchanged eleven from their trip the Etihad Stadium, whilst Roberto Martinez makes two changes from the side that lost to Fulham last week. Gary Caldwell is suspended so Steve Gohouri starts, and Franco Di Santo is preferred to Albert Crusat.

Then it’s down the M1 to Craven Cottage for a London derby between Fulham and Tottenham and, not televised, there’s a rematch of the 2011 FA Cup semi-final between Bolton and Stoke City going on.

Keep track of all the action as it happens in our Dugout Discussion chatroom.

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  1. applebonkers
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    😯 looking at the stats if it stays as a Baird OG i think ade could get the 3bps

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    1. super zlatan
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      Serious?

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      1. applebonkers
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        looks like bale has the goal now so not. still ade looks favourite for the 1bp

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    2. Kings of Lyon ★
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      No way :/ really? Bale had a few shots on did he not?

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      1. hillbillypete
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        lol, what? how? Ade was awful. so many stray passes

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    3. McDog
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      What about Lennon and Bale?

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    4. Locarno
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      If Ade gets the 3 BPs, something is seriously f*cked up.

      As usual with the BPs.

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    5. mufc802
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      Walker chance of BP? He was good attacking but a few defensive errors.

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        1. mufc802
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          Oh nice.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        Surely not

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    6. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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      I'm a Ade owner but I think you are bonkers for thinking this

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      1. applebonkers
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        didn't realise bale has the goal now so the dream is over

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    7. Demí
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      Reckon it will be:

      Bale 3 Lennon 2 Defoe 1

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      1. hillbillypete
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        how will it be defoe??!

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        1. Demí
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          He scored?

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      2. applebonkers
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        😳 forgot about defoe. i've got him down for about 27 and adebayor 38

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  2. Chris_White
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    So guys, am I way off considering getting in Saha next GW? It's either him or Bendtner...the plus with Bendtner is that he's on pens, but maybe Saha will be aswell after Baines miss in the league cup?

    Im shipping Suarez and Berra, and that will leave me with ~7M for a defender with Saha/Bendtner up front..Tempted to go with a budget defender, like Wilkinson, and use the extra cash to upgrade my midfield later on. Though im not rly convinced (obviously) with Stokes defensive efforts as of late..Can they bounce back after INTL break?

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    1. super zlatan
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      Wilkinson = fail

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      1. hillbillypete
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        id have never played a stoke defender

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    2. brianyboy 42
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      Stoke missed ShawX big time today, don't read too much into today's result.

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      1. Chris_White
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        I won't, but considering options like Hibbert (surely not nailed-on for every week?)

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  3. nandosss
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    anyone want to talk me out of the following..

    arteta to VDV
    moses/dyer to Drenthe
    suarez to sturridge

    my team is..

    krul, vorm,
    kompany, enrique, simpson, brown,
    silva, arteta, ramsey, moses, dyer
    rvp, augero, suarez

    need to do it tonight..otherwise cannot afford VDV. thanks

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    1. Chris_White
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      do it

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      1. nandosss
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        dyer or moses?

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        1. super zlatan
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          Moses

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          1. Chris_White
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            +1

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            1. Shipstontrev
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              +2 points

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        2. Dale Cooper
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          Allen

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    2. The Humungus
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      Hmmm Arteta is doing ok right now and in the right team. What about Moses for VDV and leave Arteta where he is? Not sure about Sturridge either. Bendtner is a popular one and maybe Klasnic is back

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      1. nandosss
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        cannot afford moses to VDV. arteta plays a deeper role

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  4. Nabzzy
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    Anyone Transferring BALE ?

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    1. brianyboy 42
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      In or Out??

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    2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      No

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  5. Big Sami says: Sack Beni!
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    What are you doing with your Raylor? Keep on bench for 3 weeks and take price drop or sell out for 4.5 or so?

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    1. The Humungus
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      Bench for 3 weeks. Don't think I'll lose much with the price drop

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  6. OPTA FPL
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    I'm thinking go to all Spur Midfield, any idea?

    Silva VDV Lennon Bale Sinclair

    RVP Aguero Zamora

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    1. super zlatan
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      Madness

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        why?
        it looks very solid

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    2. Rts
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      Big gamble. Lennon, Bale and VDV will not perform every week - it's hardly Xavi, Iniesta and Fabregas.

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    3. arcticjunkie1
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      Crazy talk!

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      1. OPTA FPL
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        it's very differential though
        how many games Spurs fail to score?

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        1. Rts
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          How many games do Lennon and Bale and VDV all have an influence on the outcome of games? Didn't see the game but from reading BBC live text I don't see much of Van Der Vaart mentioned - No denying he is a decent player but he isn't going to produce every game, just as Lennon didn't last game.

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      2. OPTA FPL
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        and you can grab all point bonus of Spurs

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    4. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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      Think these over again once you're sober.

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  7. Albert Cole
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    Drenthe or Rodwell for Everton cover? At 5.3, Rodwell is tempting, as long as he keeps getting forward. Anyone see the Newcastle match - what role did Rodwell play?

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    1. nandosss
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      im thinking everton and drenthe too.. DGW will happen sooner or later, good fixtures, drenthe on freekicks and looks good now he has settled in

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    2. super zlatan
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      Drenthe ftw

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      1. The Humungus
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        +1

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  8. Blue Moon
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    Who should I ditch first: Bosingwa or MPetrov

    Not too keen of taking any hits. Was thinking brown for bos and sess/brunt/walters/drenthe

    Any advice appreciated

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    1. super zlatan
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      Both mate. Worth a hit. Bring in drenthe or sess

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    2. Chris_White
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      If one, I'd say Petrov for Sess

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    3. V-2 Schneiderlin
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      I'm going for Sess but also considering Eagles - shipping Petrov too

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  9. vkel
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    Can anyone recommend a budget DF for the next 4-5 GWs (getting rid of Bosingwa)?? already got Rangel and S.Taylor

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    1. nandosss
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      brown?

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      1. waitinginthelonggrass
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        +1

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      2. vkel
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        thanks mate!!

        farewell Bosingwa...

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  10. applebonkers
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    guesses:
    RVP 3, Vermaelen/Arteta 2
    Vidic 3, Ferdinand 2, Evra/ Rooney 1
    Rodwell 3, Simpson /R.Taylor 2
    Agbonlahor 3, Bent 2, Morison 1
    Monk 3, Williams 2, Dyer/Vorm 1
    Lampard 3, Ivanovic 2, Terry/Mikel 1
    Dzeko 3, Yaya Toure 2, Bothroyd 1
    O’Hara 3, Edwards 2, Ward 1
    Klasnic 3, Eagles, Wheater 1
    Bale 3, Lennon 2, Adebayor 1

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    1. McDog
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      Didn't Bothroyd have 2 or 3 shots off target? I thought Silva might get 1

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    2. Locarno
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      Nani? Enrique? Pilkington?

      Think I prefer the earlier guesses. 🙂

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      1. applebonkers
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        the scout ones were seriously accurate last week. i'd wait for them

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    3. The Light Knight
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      fail. nani?

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      1. Demí
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        Nani won't be getting any

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    4. brianyboy 42
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      I like it! I have - RVP/Bale/OH/Rooney/Simpson/Vorm/Ade

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  11. hillbillypete
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    byebye petrov you bald headed bulgarian bastard

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
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      Well said, he has been absolutely useless for me.

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      1. hillbillypete
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        was rubbing my hands when he scored that pen. think drenthe is the man for me.

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      2. Forest4Life
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        Love him. Because he didnt play eagles came on 1st sub

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        1. Chris_White
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          Petrov AND Eagles in your team? What planet are you from.. :O

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        2. hillbillypete
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          you got lucky there. id have played eagles

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          1. Forest4Life
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            Shud have had RVP C though raging about that

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  12. joe12
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    should i dump all of these muppets for my wildcard :- given/bosingwa/enrique/fox/cabaye/rooney/adebayor

    looking at
    nani drenthe cleverly silva walters
    rvp sturridge hernandez
    ??

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    1. nandosss
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      dumping rooney will free up money

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    2. The Humungus
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      -Given -Bosingwa -Fox -Rooney
      +Drenthe +Silva +Walters ++++RVP

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  13. CFCTom
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    Athletic Bilbao v Barcelona, predictions? Messi hat trick plus two other goals is my guess (Villa and Iniesta/Pedro)

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    1. Forest4Life
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      4-0 Messi 3 Fab 1

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      1-1

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      1. CFCTom
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        I doubt it.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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          who cares

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          1. CFCTom
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            0-1 Expect more losses and the Championship next year.

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    3. Locarno
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      1-2

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    4. Mull
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      0-2 Messi, Fabregas

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    5. vkel
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      0-3 Villa 2 Messi 1

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  14. PlayPercentage
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    Another decent week for Lamps. There is also talk that he could be in for some BPs.
    Last 5 weeks have been:
    20
    6
    1
    10
    8

    with the 1 being the 9-man game vs. QPR.

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      lol. Lampard bonus points... but only whisper it.

      He scored the only goal of the game, he's a certainty for some bonus points surely!

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    2. CFCTom
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      He's the best player in the world, no suprises.

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      1. Forest4Life
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        He wasnt talking about RVP m8

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        1. nandosss
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          +1

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        2. CFCTom
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          I know.

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      2. PlayPercentage
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        If he avoids injuries, I'll be selecting him every week. (Hoping that AVB does).

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        1. CFCTom
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          He said he was extremely happy with him, so I think he'll be the first name on the team sheet.

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      3. brianyboy 42
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        What about Moses???

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        1. PlayPercentage
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          Moses has got good fixtures 🙂

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          1. Syd.
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            Wigan are shit...

            No such thing as a good fixture for Wigan...

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            1. CFCTom
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              +1

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            2. Shipstontrev
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              +5

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  15. JoeySamSam
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    How many bonus points do you think these will get?

    RTaylor
    Jones
    Silva
    Drenthe
    RVP
    Adebayor

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    1. Locarno
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      2
      1
      1
      0
      3
      0

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  16. Forest4Life
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    Disgrace if Freidel doesnt get 3 bonus. Thats coming from sum1 who doesnt have himbut has bale and ade

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  17. ToonTom
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    14 years, 6 months ago

    Just got from watching Spurs Fulham and thought Fulham really unlucky to loose.....Spurs a few good moments and some good luck....Fulham looked OK....

    Petrov going as soon as for me...although I am holding off Wilkinson in move for a bit!

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    1. Chris_White
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      I'm also pondering the Wilkinson move...what other options are there? I already have Brown which looks a decent prosect. Is Hibbert nailed-on for every week? Hard to imagine..

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      1. ToonTom
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        I really dont know, might look at Brown myself, Bos coming out so not fussed about price..feel I have missed the boat with Jones though so leaving him!
        Was 2 Wilkinson injured? A lot of options now.....this season has been SO unpredictable!

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    2. Clintymints
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      Same here, fulham 23 chances and desperately unlucky not to get a draw

      glad they didnt since ive ade on my team and won 15 quid cause they won 🙂

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  18. nandosss
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    striker for under 6.8m?

    sturridge or bentner or other?

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    1. McDog
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      Bendtner/Klasnic

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      1. The Humungus
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        Second that

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    2. Clintymints
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      bendy bus

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    3. JoeySamSam
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      Klasnic, whenever he plays for a decent amount of time he's deadly

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    4. vkel
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      Klasnic 😀

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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        it seems like a knee jerk but if you look at the stats, every time hes played a full game hes scored. dont understand why the manager doesnt like him

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        1. vkel
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          looking at his next 4-5 GWs, definitely worth a punt....sooner or later

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  19. OPTA FPL
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    bentner

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  20. Clintymints
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    Someone suggested what score they will get this week and i said 62... what did you get in the end if you see this!? musta been close!

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/2495/event-history/11/

    65 points myself this week rather happy with that

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    1. Demí
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      But are you happy about losing in the cup to me? 🙂

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      1. Clintymints
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        aw fck did u win in the end?

        i thought i was up this week

        i dont even know where i check the scores for that cup

        link me

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        1. Demí
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          Unless Vorm and Dyer both get 3baps i'll of won.

          Check my team link, and compare to yours. No hits for either of us.

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          1. Clintymints
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            gona come down to bonus and ur bloody 3rd sub

            you sir got lucky this week :@

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          2. Clintymints
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            wolves and bolton cs

            lol ffs

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  21. PlayPercentage
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    What to do about Nasri?
    At least he didn't play a 10 min cameo this week.
    But I can't see him being a nailed on starter.
    Thinking about Nasri -> Yaya

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    1. brianyboy 42
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      Silva only nailed on midfielder.

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    2. Chris_White
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      Nasri seems to be behind in the line, and Yaya is finally showing some potential as of last year. Not a bad move, imo.

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  22. Corrigan
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    My Uncle is chasing so the inclusion of Lamps may be a decent move. So far, I have this:

    Krul Vorm
    Naylor Simpson Hibbert Turner Jones (not sure if he's 100% when everyone is fit)
    Silva VDV Lamps Drenthe Allen
    RVP Klasnic Bendtner

    No Utd attacking coverage but apart from that I think it looks good. 2.1 in the bank to upgrade those two strikers if need be.

    BTW Locarno got 71 with Suarez as captain...

    Congrats.

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    1. vkel
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      superb attacking force there mate, good luck!!

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      1. Corrigan
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        Cheers. Pretty happy with it myself. Shame it's not my team!

        I think the only players we share are Vorm Naylor Simpson Silva VDV RVP

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    2. The Humungus
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      You should gain big in the next few weeks, would like that midfield/attack

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  23. Syd.
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    50.

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  24. Neddy55
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    Drenthe looked lean and hungry against Newcastle but there's a bit of a temper there.

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    1. teto
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      Hes a yellow card waiting to happen every game. Evertons best player going forward

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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        agreed if he can sort the temper out, he looks like he could be immense, defo on the radar

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    2. Rabid Dog
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      Looks promising, ive brought him in but a defo candidate for a Anfield derby send off when comes around.

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  25. Jukesy
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    Thinking of doing this at some point:

    Warnock -> Hibbert
    Larsson -> Drenthe

    Everton have great fixtures, though not sure of Hibbert's attacking qualities.

    At the moment my defence this week are playing: Chelsea, Tottenham, Man Utd, Man City and Bolton

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    1. Chris_White
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      Is Hibbert 100% reliable for starts? If so, i'll bring him in aswel along with either Saha or Bendtner

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      1. Jukesy
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        I'm not certain what the defensive line-up is, but I'm pretty sure he starts most matches on the left? Probably get the same amount of points as Warnock, even if he doesn't start..

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        1. Chris_White
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          Baines is their LB, Hibbert plays RB..would think he's under threat by P. Neville, although he has played in midfield recent weeks

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  26. piers
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    I'm thinking of selling either Ramsey or Murphy to get Sess in. Who should it be?

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    1. Chris_White
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      Murphy for sure

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      1. Clintymints
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        Wait this ^

        read it the other way round

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    2. Clintymints
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      Ramsey

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    3. Forest4Life
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      Murphy

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  27. Torreslove
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    raylor or allen next week??

    raylor might get minus points for goals conceded against man city, but he's on freekicks and can score.

    allen can score but no minus points against man utd.
    i'm thinking r taylor.

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    1. Chris_White
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      I'd play allen

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  28. ToonTom
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    Im changing Suarez most likely this int break....if you could have any striker..who would it be?

    I have

    RVP,Sturridge,Suarez

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
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      Prob little pea, that is who I am looking at.

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    2. Chris_White
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      I'm also getting rid, have Ade and RVP alongside him. Thinking Bendtner or maybe even Saha. Both have good fixtures

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        I'm obviously thinking budget-strikers. If any, I'd get Aguero 😛

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      2. ToonTom
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Saha burnt me BIG style earlier in the season....I am scared...may go Brown/Turner for their coverage.....

        Thinking 3 changes

        Bos-Brown?
        Petrov/Suarez also out

        Big budget but no one stands out really...

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      3. vkel
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 6 months ago

        Out of the two, Saha will definitely have more chances. (possibly a big differentiate if you are trying catch someone).

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  29. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Really tempted to hit the button on a set of transfers. Decent move?

    Petrov to Drenthe and Sturrdige to Bendtner.

    No cash for just the first one.

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      looks good to me

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  30. Matt Sk
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 6 months ago

    Really happy this GW my forwards killed it

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/423378/event-history/11/

    but im quite confused now too because i wanted to swap Nani for Bale,Lennon or Milner to save points for Klasnic<Dzeko transfer or just to put Silva in instead of Nani...but i don´t know what to do now because Klasnic had a really good gw and before this gw he was sitting on the bench...any suggestions?

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 6 months ago

      oh man!!.......you should have captained Klasnic!

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