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21 November 2011 1043 comments
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Gameweek 12 draws to close tonight with a game at White Hart Lane between Tottenham Hotspur and Aston Villa. This is the third time in the last five years that this fixture has taken place on a Monday night, and if the tie goes anywhere near matching the excitement levels of the 2007 meeting, then we are in for an instant classic. As a Martin Laursen owner that night, this fixture evokes fond fantasy football memories.

The Dugout Discussion opens for the late shift, and if reminiscing over a defender brace (and three bonus points) isn’t for you, then I hope the following team news is enough to chew over whilst we wait for the 8p.m. kick-off…

Spurs XI: Friedel, Walker, Kaboul, King, Assou-Ekotto, Lennon, Parker, Modric, Bale, Van der Vaart, Adebayor.

Villa XI: Given, Cuellar, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, Hutton, Petrov, Herd, Heskey, Bent, Agbonlahor.

With yesterday’s encounter at Stamford Bridge focusing on players looking to (and in the end succeeding to) haunt their old employers, tonight once again there’s a whole host of players on that same mission. Brad Friedel, Kyle Walker (was on loan), Alan Hutton and Darren Bent all start and face their respective previous clubs. Jermaine Jenas, on loan at Villa, is ineligible to play tonight.

Elsewhere, fantasy football favourite Rafael van der Vaart passes a fitness test to start up front behind Emmanual Adebayor.

Join us in the Dugout Discussion chatroom where, as always, you can follow all the action.

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  1. kingbails
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    too much of a knee-jerk to swap roon and ramsey for adeb and bale for 4 point hit when all have pretty good fixtures next week?

    Had Roo since the start and I have a curse in that I keep the faith for too long and when I do transfer him out he regains form!!

    Although also have Nani eating into the budget, any ideas please?

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney has a good fixture next week?

      Even if he did he'll probably do jack all next weekend anyway. Until I sell him, then he'll score a hatrick.

      Grrrrr!!

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      wait till tomorrow, and you will reckon it's the wrong decision 😉

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    3. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ade and Lampard would be a good trade for Rooney and Nani

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      1. kingbails
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        as a united fan this is difficult but makes sense... Ba would be coming in for edeb in gw 15 so could do with Bale as a keeper for spurs coverage as well before the bandwagon pushes up the price again, been tryin to squeeze him in the past 3 gwk's but screwed by small price rises...

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I am a United fan too but you just can't think about that. Jones is the only United cover you need really as they are focused on defense at the moment. Lampard and Ade are much better options and are on form

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          1. kingbails
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Hmm I'm going to allow a yet couple more miserable gameweeks before I part with the Roonster otherwise I have learned nothing from previous seasons. Wasn't expecting anything from Swan away anyway... Brough Bale in for Nani until the latter remembers how to take on defenders and cross the ball ARGH

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    4. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nani > Walcott could be an idea, though

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Walcott is overpriced IMO. He should be around 7.5 to be considered IMO

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  2. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    this is the point where i usually concede one of my cleanies.............. 🙁

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  3. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Typical selfish Defoe, should have played Ade in.

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  4. Cruicky
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Would have thought Villa would be in with a shout of 7th or something.

    Agbonlahor and Bent up top with the likes of Ireland, Bannan, N'Zogbia, Delph for creativity and with an old, reliable defence with Dunne, Collins and Given - all leaders. Solid team on paper.

    Obviously McLeish thinks otherwise...

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    1. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Perhaps people are beginning to see why Villa fans were so anti McLeish. Its not just the bluse nose connection, he is negative in the extreme. There you go McLeish.....full time whistle. What a load of feckin rubbish.

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  5. brianyboy 42
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Good Night from Cape Town

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      you in cape town??

      i have relatives there

      whereabouts are you exactly?

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      1. brianyboy 42
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Hi, I live in a small seaside village in the Deep South called Glencairn, it's in between Fish Hoek and Simonstown (Hence my FF Team is called Glencairn Gunners). Where are your relatives?

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  6. mufc802
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    What do we think the cut-off score for the Paddy Power cup be? I would say 60.

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      less

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Probably. 3 Ade baps would give me 59...

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  7. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    defoe row Z

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  8. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Love the hug modric gave Arry, great man manager

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      gay

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-II284PnJo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          lol

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  9. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    And there endeth a sh*te gw for me.

    I'm off to find a neighbour's cat to kick and then its off to a lonely mountaintop to contemplate on what I've done lately to p*ss off the FPL gods so badly!

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  10. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So when do we find out how many points will be needed for cup entry? 🙂 #impatient

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      weston super maaaaarrrre

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  11. In Like Flynn.
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Nicely done Locarno, I think that will do you.

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  12. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    My WC team is looking like

    Vormm, Ruddy
    Jones, Richards, Enrique, Ryan Taylor,Wilkonson
    Bale, VDV, Walters, Silva, Tiote
    Ba, RVP, Adebayor

    Thoughts anyone please?

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    1. Monklane
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Like it.

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    2. Rahul
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      why so much newcastle? have dyer instead of tiote

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      1. Torres76
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Run out of cash for Dyer instead of Tiote..

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    3. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Newcastle have a couple of tough games. I'd go for Helguson instead of Ba then transfer Ba in week 15. I like the rest of your team.

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    4. bigwig
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Too much Spurs, not enough Man.u or Chelsea

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      1. Torres76
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Is that from the dire chelsea at the mo? or the misfiring Man United who are set a run of 1-0 victories?

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    5. Wuffs
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      My thoughts are you must be feeling quite smug after tonights result. (wink)

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  13. Le Bluff
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Who's for baps? Ade 3. Bale 2, Kaboul 1?

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    1. cechmate
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think Bale might nick the 3.

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      1. Le Bluff
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, I guess Ade did balloon a fair few off target.

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    2. Nice1Cyrille
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bale 3, Ade 2, any defender 1

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    3. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bale 3 Adebayor 2 Kaboul 1 i think

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  14. Monklane
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I'd just like to mention how hard Ade worked tonight. Not quite what you expect from him, is it?

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    1. cechmate
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      He's been doing that in every game I've seen. Really important to that Spurs team IMO. Puts lots of pressure on the defence and holds the ball up really well.

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  15. Johnny Unitas
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Did anyone see this average position map on ESPN? It shows Rooney playing the furthest forward, with Pea just behind him, I would never have thought that watching the game at the weekend.

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/gamecast?id=318087&cc=5901

    Also, Rooney had 6 shots, 2 on target, 2 off target and 2 blocked. Hernandez had 1 shot, one goal. Nani had 3 shots, 2 off target and 1 blocked.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/chalkboards/EXw04o7d1B06k631Uq24

    I just don't know what to do, the stats speak for themselves, he is United's lead attacker, being a United fan is also blinding me, but with this many shots, playing up top, good fixtures, no idea what to do.

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    1. Wuffs
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Well i'm putting him in my team next week (for Swazzer) Rooney always plays well and scores against my beloved Toon...fact!

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Moment I take him out, cue hattrick.

      So hacked off at the moment I can't be bleedin arsed to do any changes. Whatever I do will be the wrong choice.

      Just have to hope that next week Rooney, Drenthe, VdV, Bendtner and Sinclair can actually pull their fingers out long enough to contribute more than 2 or 3 piddling points each.

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      1. kingbails
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        ha me too, either way you're set up pretty well for the coming weeks (on paper of course :P)

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      2. Wuffs
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Cheer up matey, tis' only a bit of fun and not real life...hang on, you're right it's more important than that.
        Grrr. Football!

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    3. kingbails
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Same predic but i'm keeping him for now... I have nani so going to allow a rare knee jerk to bring in bale in his place and keep roon until GW15 where if he hasn't produced the goods mr Ba will come in to free up some cash and do his stuff.

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Its just really frustrating when you pick good players and they don't perform for several weeks.

        Makes it worse when the players who were behind me gambled on other players and those guys are all coming good now.

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        1. kingbails
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          yeah but in a way retaining the non-performing players is perhaps more of a gamble on our part. It's spotting the difference between jumping on bandwagons or a sensible fold

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    4. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Looking at the heat map, he drops deep alot to around just around halfway line and outwide. Hernandez's movement is great but his heat map is more sparse.

      I'd have Rooney for the set-pieces and pens if money isn't an issue - at OT next week, Nani vs Ryan Taylor could get messy going by what happened on Saturday at City, so I'd think Rooney will score at least 1.

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    5. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah I saw that as well but Rooney did play striker in that game. Previously he was a CM. I can see him moving back to CM when Welbeck is back from injury

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  16. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    71% possession for spurs

    how was it only 2-0?!

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    1. A-Team
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Adebayor...

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    2. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Because Villa played with 11 men i defense..

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  17. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Does anyone else think that Spurs looked far less threatening once VDV came off for Defoe?

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    1. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      They eased off it's only natural being 2-0 up, have to be sensible

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    2. cechmate
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah, but that's not too surprising. The Spurs starting line up is a wonderfully balanced team.

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    3. Le Bluff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Meh, swings and roundabouts. They were cruising.

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  18. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Impressed with Spurs.

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    1. Johnny Unitas
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      And me, they have the makings of a great team at the minute, good defense, great midfield, and Adebayor!

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    2. cechmate
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Very unimpressed with Villa.

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      1. A-Team
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Lucky to get nil.

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  19. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Worth doing VDV -> Bale? Lad seems on fire and always plays the full 90 mins.

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  20. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    This place is hilarious these days! All these "VDV out" posts. What do you want, 10 pts every week? This game does not work that way. Get a grip!

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    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      + 99

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      60 minute withdrawals, injury problems, bale at 2 million cheaper..
      so does make sense somewhat

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    3. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      #Sense

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    4. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Stop talking sense.

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    5. Ini
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      This

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  21. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I don't usually kneejerk... BUT...

    Moses to Bale...

    Bale just looks pure class at the moment and at 8.2m he is an absolute steal....

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    1. Nice1Cyrille
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      lol

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    2. Wuffs
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      You'll regret it.
      Moses is just lulling everyone one into a false sense of security.

      The midfield behemoth is going to let rip...soon.

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  22. Kgriffsnake
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Vorm(Krul)
    Brown, Jose Enrique, Shawcross, (Simpson, R Taylor,)
    Mata, VDV, Walters, Silva (Dyer)
    Crouch, Ade, RVP

    I have 2 FT so I think I need to use one else I have Jose against City and I don't like those odds.

    Simpson or R Taylor out and who for? I am thinking Simpson out as he can easily come back in but I have too much Newscastle coverage at the back although they have nice fixtures in a few weeks.

    After this week I need to rid Crouch as I have 2 Stoke strikers...

    Any suggestions?

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  23. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    decided i'd take a 4 point hit tonight.. suarez and nani to walters and adebayor.. leaves cash in teh bank too.. incase of injuries i'll just play my wildcard:)

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  24. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    My team is on 84pts for the week with surely an extra 5 for bale & ade's 2 & 3 pt.

    Veeeeeery chuffed with my team for a change. Its about time my luck turned up 🙂

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Link it, please!

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Westwood
        Baines / jones / brown
        Lampard / silva / bale / ramsey
        Rvp (c) / ade / bendtner

        Subs: vorm / dyer / ntaylor

        Thats my team 4 vets.

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    2. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Glad you're the one getting my share of luck lately then.

      Well done.

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    3. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice Im 84 with same 2. Might equal you if Bae gets 1....

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      1. Forest4Life
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Sorry meant might go ahead

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      2. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        A pox on you both, good sir!!!

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    4. Psychos got ya number
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice one! I'm currently on 74 before Spurs baps, hopefully that sees me through to the PP first round proper. Hoping Bale nicks all 3 bps 🙂

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  25. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like Adebayor just sealed my place in the cup. Pity about VDV, he was unlucky not to get something from that.

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  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    69 plus Ade's BPs to come. Decent week.

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  27. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    I seriously lost 3 H2hs and maybe out of the cup due to adebayor. Enjoying a great spurs win never felt so bad.

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  28. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    didn't get too many points out of tonights game but it did help me to finally decide what to do with Suarez.

    > Ade.

    just pulled the transfer trigger on that little deal.

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  29. CFCTom
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Enrique -> Walker? Not a knee jerk, have been considering it for a while. Thoughts?

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    1. Le Bluff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      An okay transfer if no other part of your team needs work. Enrique offers pretty much the same attacking threat as Walker, and 'Pool are slightly more reliable for clean sheets IMO.

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Not for me. After Citeh L'pool's fixtures lighten up.

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      can you afford luiz instead?

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  30. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    suarez and mpetrov > allen and aguero??

    4pt hit

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      or maybe walters and ba instead?

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      City haven't got the best fixtures - liv, NOR, che, ARS. You'd be pretty f*cked off if Aguero got rotated for the Norwich game.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        And Ba has mun, CHE.

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        1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          i'll just go to bed i think and stop trying to be clever!

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            hehe

            Ba looks good after those 2 games, though. I'm wondering what to do with Suarez too.

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      2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        lol true

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