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Sunday Dugout Discussion

27 November 2011 2378 comments
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While the footballing community rightly reels from the frankly unfathomable and tragic news of Gary Speed’s passing, the Dugout Discussion opens in more solemn tones in shock at this news…

Our first of two fixtures today is in Wales where, rather perversely now, Speed had been seeming to build a bright future for football in his home country. Whether many of the Welsh players (on both sides) are in the right mind is hard to tell but the fixture of Swansea vs Aston Villa will go ahead as planned. Teams in full are…

Swansea XI: Vorm; Rangel, Monk, Williams, Taylor; Britton, Allen, Gower, Dyer, Sinclair; Graham

Villa XI: Given; Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock; Herd, Delph; N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor; Bent.

The Premier League weekend will then finish with the big fixture of the weekend as Kenny Dalglish’s Moneyball squad come up against the Nouveau riches of Manchester City.

RIP Gary Speed.

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  1. Alan The Llama
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone think Walters is due for any bps? I think his and Bale's potential bps will kill me off.

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I don't think Walters will get anything, unfortunately.

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    2. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      No and thats from an owner

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    3. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      No 4 other gscorers in that match.. 3 of them surely

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    4. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      ok, thanks for the input chaps

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  2. Kuyt Dirkula +42
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Well, I watched the 'Pool/Citeh to keep an eye on Aguero, he looks tired and 'blunt'.

    I've gone for the Spurs points triangle of VDV, Bale and Ade.

    Sucess or folly will be measured by their combined points tally after gw21 (barring injury).

    Next team is now;

    Vorm (ruddy)
    Jones, Enrique, Raylor (Wilko, De Leat)
    VDV, Bale, Silva, Walters (Rodwell)
    RVP, Hernandez, Ade

    Comments?

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm considering shipping Walters out this week.

      He gets his points at home.

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      1. Kuyt Dirkula +42
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Walters £6.6M - 47 at home 16 away
        Bale £8.5M 33 at home 36 away

        I think Walters is still VFM...

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      2. Messi & fabregas
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        i already did that, i thought exactly the same and i got bale in so i am also going with the big 3 spurs players

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    2. Kgriffsnake
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Not bad lacking in Crouch upfront.

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      1. Kuyt Dirkula +42
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Crouch?

        Surely you jest Sir?

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        1. Kgriffsnake
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I do indeed there is nothing to worry about with your team. Only Raylor at Chelsea fingers crossed he gets a goal I can't see a clean sheet with the onslaught of Torres warming the bench.

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    3. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Quality strikers 🙂

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      1. Kuyt Dirkula +42
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Lol - you WOULD say that 🙂

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  3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    i feel sick

    just considered getting terry

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      yeah thats official- u are sick now

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm no tribalist.. you have to play the game. but on a personal note.. I'd rather cut my fingers off and eat them.

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    3. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      he has some good points though, and i must be objective in this game

      4 goals too

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Still, you may as well get Vermaelan for at least 0.5 cheaper.

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    4. LeSagna
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ditch the thought sharpish and hope the sickness goes away

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  4. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Has anyone done worse than 27+4 with subs.

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    1. VarunK
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      29+4.

      I'm right here with you.

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  5. Silent Alarm
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Here's a question. Why do visiting keepers turn into God in injury time at Anfield?! Very frustrating draws that could have been victorys recently.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      in front of the kop too

      bastard

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      1. Silent Alarm
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I feel some team is going to be on the end of a hammering soon. Definitely considering Suarez in if people keep shipping him out. Could be a great differential i thinks

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        1. Kuyt Dirkula +42
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Suarez = Moses in disguise...

          I kid you not!

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        2. Messi & fabregas
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          +1

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          1. Messi & fabregas
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            the + 1 was for the above comment. i am keeping suarez

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  6. LeSagna
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Soo.. All things considered.

    Suarez vs Adebayor?

    It's a tough one all in all.

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Well Adebayor seems to score points and isn't a massive c*nt.

      I'd go for him.

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      1. chinmusic
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I'm not sure about the massive c*nt bit

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      2. Kuyt Dirkula +42
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Where the hell is the 'like' button?

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    2. VarunK
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Click on their point histories and answer your own question.

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  7. The Light Knight
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    4 point hit for lamps has put me 2 points behind in h2h before baps
    Could i get some bap predictions for
    Kompany Vermaelen Vorm Larsson Studge Roo RVP Silva

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      2 1 1 1 1 1 0 0

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Kompany 3
      Vermaelen 3
      Vorm 0/1
      Larsson 1
      Studge 1
      Roo RVP Silva 0

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    3. Laserface
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      3
      3
      0
      1
      1
      1
      0
      1

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  8. @ImpressiveTackl
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anybody in the Blackburn side worth considering for the forthcoming run of games? i.e.

    SWA sun WBA BOL

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm considering Yak or Hoilett in for Bendtner but I may just go with the easy choice of Ba.

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      1. Kgriffsnake
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        +1 I was along the same lines I didn't want to get on the Ba train, currently had Crouch compared to your Bendter.

        Blackburn have really nice fixtures the only problem with any of their players in they play for Blackburn.

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yakubu. But I don't know if I'd give up a striker slot for a Blackburn striker.. seems risky.

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    3. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Formica.

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    4. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I got in MGP and Robinson this week

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    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Not really ... 😐

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    6. Hyperion
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Hoilett, yakubu, formica, rochina are the only options I'd say, but the only one that emerged with any credit this weekend was rochina. If he were down as a mid I'd be interested but he's a forward so doesn't offer great value imo. Personally I'll be steering well clear of all of them.

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      1. Cruicky
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Hoilett and Rochina are midfielders classed as strikers - reverse OOP (poo).

        Yakubu only scores goals when he has the service.

        Formica only played as Dunn was suspended - will be benched next week.

        Blackburn are bottom for a reason...

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  9. lightspeed
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    tempted to do

    Rooney>Ade (tonight to beat the rise)

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    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      u should have them both in your team imo

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  10. footyjuana
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Both me and my PP cup rival on 44 points without BPs.

    He though took a -4 hit and I did not. So effectively his score is 40 right? And Im through?:D (not including disastrous BP results)

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      He is on 48(-4).

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      1. footyjuana
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Nope. Total gweek score is 44. Hence, counting the hit, it should be 40 right?

        Basically, transfer hit counts for as much in a pp cup competition as well right?

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Of course.

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          1. footyjuana
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Thanks mate!

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  11. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Terrible GW. Everything that could go wrong, did. Lost all the H2Hs I played.

    To WC or not to WC?

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      who is your grav???

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      1. VarunK
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Looks like salma hayek from here.

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  12. Kgriffsnake
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Keep Crouch for one more GW or ship out for Ba Ba?

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    1. Hyperion
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Keep.

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      1. Kgriffsnake
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Why keep Hyper?

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    2. Laserface
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ship out,,as long as its a freebie

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    3. Cyril Figgis
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ship, even for a hit imo.

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  13. Bsal
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    given al habsi
    p.jones brown richards rtaylor enrique
    bale silva lampard walters pilkington
    rvp bendtner bA

    which would be a reasonable 4 pt hit ?
    1) bendtner-adebayor and lampard-walcott (transfer after the carling cup for the injury concern…coz walcott had a slight knock during the fulham game …. if late adebayor price could rise )
    2)bendtner-adebayor and p.jones-3.9m def (as i have four decent def to cover for all gws )

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    1. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      The 1st one looks the best from the two options.

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  14. everyday, i'm shufflin…
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    any chance for me to get more than 8 bonus points from these players?

    Mata, Adebayor >> 3 points each?
    Silva, Bale, Vorm, Naylor, Dyer >> any chance for 2 points?

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    1. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Bale I think will get 1 and also Silva might sneak 1..no clue about naylor , he has as much chance as getting a 3 as getting a 0--u have to check the stats..

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Defo. Think you should get 3 points from each Ade and Mata.
      Should get 1 from Silva, 1 or 2 from Vorm/Naylor.

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    3. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks.. It'd be good to break 700.

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  15. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    31 today ,, 35 after BPs

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  16. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    i apologise to my FFS cup opponent for probably beating him with such an awful score

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      😆 All's fair in love and FF! 😀

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    2. Waldaz
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      #teamBonkers

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Why are you doin that funny dance then?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        *sniggers*

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  17. Alex Kheruson
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Bradley Johnson of norwich is defensive or attacking MF?

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    1. lightspeed
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      more defensive, does take some set pieces tho

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  18. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Are baps out tomorrow.. or tonight? I lose track of these things funnily enough.

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Tomorrow morning around 11am

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        last week they gave them much quicker..

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    2. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      2mr morning at 8 am BST approx

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      1. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        cheers guys

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    3. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      tomorrow around 9 ish

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  19. Windmachine
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    might be a good idea to captain balotelli next week

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm not sure captaining Balotelli is ever a good idea.

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  20. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Alright. Jagielka or Baines till the Jan wild card? I know Baines will outscore Jagielka through that period, but is it worth the extra 2.5? Discuss.

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Jagielka. I don't think Baines will score enough goals/assists to justify the extra 2.5.

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    2. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      you 'know' he will or you 'think' he might?

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      1. Ancelotti's Eyebrow
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I predict he will. He has got penalties, crosses, set pieces, bonuses on his side.

        The million dollar question is how many Baines will score over Jags.

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    3. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm trying to make the same decision. It's a hard one.

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  21. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    My Team:
    Vorm-Krul
    Shawcross-Brown-Jose Enrique-Kompany-P.Jones
    Silva - Bale - Walters - B.Johnson - Dyer
    RVP - Adebayor - Aguero

    Which of these transfers do you think are the best to do?

    A) Shawcross -> Jagielka (0.5m left)
    B) Shawcross -> Baines, P.Jones -> Simpson (4pt hit)
    C) Shawcross -> Baines, Aguero -> Ba (4pt hit) (2.6m left)

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    1. Laserface
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      A imho

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      1. Kuyt Dirkula +42
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Another vote for A

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Surely upgrading BJ and or Dyer should be more urgent.

      Out of those options listed, A

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  22. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Supperdunny? How good is Rochina? I've only seen glimpses of him but from what i've seen, with him only being 20, he could play for one of the top 6!

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    1. everyday, i'm shufflin…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'd like to know about this Rochina too.

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  23. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    41+5 may sneak up to 50 with bps. Still going to lose ground on leader looking at -130pts behind now and will lose to him in H2H. Sigh..

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Always next season.

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  24. XVIVX
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    so my post was kinda near the end of last page, but to summarize, im getting rid of ferguson, and i have 7.2 left. i'm looking at larsson, but others have suggested drente and walters (which i don't really want either or). i could even gamble and go with ramires??? what do you think?

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'd get Drenthe as Everton's fixtures up until the second wildcard are great but don't do the transfer now as he might not be fit for next week.

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    2. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Drenthe was travelling on the same Bandwagon as Bentdner this last fortnight........that should tell you all you need to know............

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      1. XVIVX
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        that's why i said i didnt really want him lol. i'm thinking of larsson,

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  25. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    My front 8:
    Nani Silva VDV Ramsey (Dyer)
    Adebayor RVP Agbonlahor

    2FT and 0.1 in bank.

    Was thinking of these transfers:
    A) Nani -> Larsson, Agbonlahor-> Hernandez
    B) Just Agbonlahor -> Ba
    C) Any other suggestions?

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      D) Nani > Larsson, Agbon > Ba

      and bank the rest

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    2. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Nani -> Bale
      Agbon -> Ba

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  26. @ImpressiveTackl
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Would it be overkill to do these moves:

    Aguero > Adebayor
    Walters > Bale

    giving me a front 8 of:
    Silva VDV Bale Drenthe (Allen)
    RVP Adebayor Bendtner

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Overkill in my opinion. Surely losing Bendtner is more important?

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I preferred plan A. 🙂

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      1. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        😆

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    3. Screaming Midget
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I have the 2nd move in mind.

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    4. Dale Cooper
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I think 2 offensive TOT players would be just enough. I'd get Sturridge or Mata instead, but not necesarrily for the forthcoming GW.

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      1. alsybach
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        speak to me Dale........I have got Bob too!!!!

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        1. Dale Cooper
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Looks like we are stuck in Black Lodge.

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          1. alsybach
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            that was a great series.........bit of a twin peak geek me!!!!!

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    5. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      If Tottenham draw a blank one week, you will do really poorly. In my opinion Bale is just going to recess back into scoring 2's every week.

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    6. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Gosh darn it guys. I don't know what to do anymore....

      I just wanted to do a simple Walters > O'Hara.

      Adebayor had to go and start scoring again after I suffered 5 gameweeks without a goal from the big Togolese Jerk.

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  27. Baggio84
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    anyone else have that nagging sensation, that as soon as they get rid or rooney, he'll get his form back and start hammering them in again?

    have two free transfers and could do so much if i shifted him from my team

    vorm/krul
    shawx/richards/senderos(still...)simpson
    mata/silva/pilkington/sinclair/formica
    rvp/sturridge/roon

    with wayne out i can do roon>ba
    pilks> VDV

    might hit the button before price rises

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    1. Dale Cooper
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I also had 2 FT going into next GW and already used one on shipping Rooney out.

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      1. Baggio84
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        reckon its worth getting ba in now then?

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      you want to wait on VDV fitness before doing that? Get Bale perhaps if you are worried about price drops.

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      1. Baggio84
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        yeah bale is a possibility, need spurs coverage. would prefer VDV long term. but yeah probably best to wait on his fitness, keep waiting for big score for roon, just need to accept this will happen as soon as i get rid! cheers

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  28. Demí
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Apologies if this has been asked. Just need some clarification on what happens if your PP cup match is tied after bps.

    What's the 1st criteria used to separate us? I'm thinking transfers made, or overall rank.

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    1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      rank

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Probs Rank. As it was used to get the last 30 players.

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    3. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Overall rank

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    4. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers all

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  29. Djerbil
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Scout picks:
    2
    1 2(sub) 2
    2 5 1 5
    6 2 2

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Level with me.

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  30. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    MCFC official site match report: "With Luis Suarez giving a good impression of a dying swan under almost every challenge"

    :Lol:

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