[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
5 December 2011 2178 comments
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Craven Cottage is the venue, as Fulham versus Liverpool wraps up Gameweek 14 on a bitterly cold Monday night. Braving the unpleasant conditions outside, the Dugout Discussion is open once more. Martin Jol and Kenny Dalglish have handed their team sheets in, and this is how the sides line-up tonight…

Fulham XI: Schwarzer, Kelly, Senderos, Hangeland, JA Riise, Murphy, Etuhu, Dempsey, Ruiz, Zamora, Dembele.

Liverpool XI: Reina, Johnson, Enrique, Skrtel, Agger, Henderson, Adam, Spearing, Bellamy, Carroll, Suarez.

The hosts make one change to the side that drew at the Emirates, as Steven Kelly comes in for Chris Baird at right-back.

As for the visitors, the devastating injury to their star defensive-midfielder Lucas, means that Jay Spearing comes in as his replacement. Elsewhere, Andy Carroll partners Luis Suarez up-front, and surprisingly there’s no reward in the form of a starting berth for Maxi Rodriguez, who’s enjoying somewhat of a purple patch at the moment.

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  1. Syd.
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Getting off the Bendy Bus.... After one more stop....

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I hope that you had a dayrider, because you certainly want to have saved something along the way 😛

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    2. Hyperion
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      One more slow and painful stop. 🙁

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  2. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Aguero -> Ba, good transfer?

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    1. Torreslove
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      yea, and i'm giving him the armband too.

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    2. An Púca
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      No no no

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      1. Dynamic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Why not?

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        1. An Púca
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          They're back 4 is in bits....they've had their good run. It can't last all season. I think they're in for a rough 4 or 5 weeks

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      2. Torreslove
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        why the heck not??

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    3. cechmate
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I wouldn't do it. Newcastle have had the core of their team taken away, I wouldn't invest him them right now.

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      1. Canadian Football
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I agree totally. I was thinking of agree to ba this GW until all the injuries occured. However, if we expect them to conceed, they will have to play more attacking once they get behind and we know BA is capable. Give them 1 week to see how they play without Taylor and Col

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        1. Canadian Football
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          sorry....i meant aguero to BA

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    4. Hyperion
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I don't understand the lack of faith in Aguero. Not far from a season keeper imo.

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      1. Ghost
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        That's exactly why there's a lack of faith - because he's not quite a season keeper.

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  3. QPR expects... glory!
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Funny old game this.... Went to bed last night sitting on two freebies and £800k in the bank anxiously hoping Phil Jones wouldn't rise as I wanted to do VDV and Saylor to Adam and Jones after tonight's game and leave enough money for a decent upgrade for Pilkington next GW.

    Woke up this morning and found Jones went up so brought in Samba for Saylor instead. Watched the game tonight and am going to bed now thinking about Schwarzer replacing Begovic and then spending 4 pts to bring in Nani for VDV if he gets through tomorrows ECL match unscathed and in good form.

    God I love this game! But why do I bother planning anything?

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    1. Gustavo Fring
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Haha 🙂

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    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      You need to stop jerking 😉

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      1. QPR expects... glory!
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I prefer to think of it as 'making decisions on the fly' 😉

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  4. Torreslove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    mata only 9 EPI?! WHAT THE PHUCK?? he was the most influential player on the field!! chelsea would be nowhere without him.

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    1. Cowshed - Blue & White …
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Its a shitty system. End of.

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    2. RÏɠBY
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      truely annoying

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  5. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Do we think that VDV will start the Stoke game?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      we do

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      1. Fratboy
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        we do?

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    2. Art Vandelay
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yes. Even if you take the view that Defoe will get some starts if VDV is fit, Stoke away is the sort of game where VDV's guile will be invaluable.

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      1. Fratboy
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        "guile"

        nice.

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        1. Art Vandelay
          • 15 Years
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          #countdown

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          1. Fratboy
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            14 years, 5 months ago

            this ain't twitter guy 😛

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            1. Art Vandelay
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              You mean " this is not Twitter", and do not call me Guy

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      2. QPR expects... glory!
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Or you could take the opposing view that little guys like Defoe have more chance of running rings around Stoke's huge central defenders...

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        1. Art Vandelay
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          You could but I wouldn't recommend it.

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          1. QPR expects... glory!
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            So you don't think Nani would outperform him over the next few weeks?

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            1. Art Vandelay
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              I didn't mention Nani, I was just offering an opinion on the likelihood of VDV starting.

              However, if you are unsure about VDV's pitch time, Nani would be a good replacement.

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i guess it is just 60mins roaming around, passing a few balls.
      that's it
      solid 3 pts.

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    4. RÏɠBY
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      i think he'll get maybe 20mins.. get him ready/test him for the xmas rush

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  6. Park the bus
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Think I've cracked it...

    VDV, Bendtner, Hernandez > Bale, Long, Rooney (4 point hit) this week.

    Sound ok?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      nope, keep VdV, find another way to get Bale (like getting a cheaper option than Rooney)

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      1. Park the bus
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Hernandez > Welbeck &
        Ramsey > Bale?

        Worried about Spurs overkill as I also have BAE.

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          As do I, how can you have overkill in a side playing as well as Spurs, and yes to those transfers, no hit involved either.

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  7. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    repost from last page

    Do I get Schwarzer or Howard to replace Westy. Howard obv has DGW but I have Bale and VdV, Schwarzer has tougher fixtures but he has form and plenty of saves

    Also what option sounds like the best defensively

    A) Brown, Jones, BAE, McAuley, Vidic
    B) Brown, Jones, BAE, McAuley, Baines
    C) Jags, Jones, BAE, McAuley, Smalling
    D Brown, Jones, BAE, Jags Smalling?

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    1. Fratboy
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      B for me!

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      1. cechmate
        • 15 Years
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        I agree with this.

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    2. give me silvaware
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Whose BAE?

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    3. give me silvaware
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      D

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  8. gers23
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Hi All.Thoughts on my team plz.Have 2 FTs and 500k in bank.

    Westwood(Ruddy)

    Vermalaen/Kompany/Enrique(Simpson,Wilkinson)

    Silva/VDV/Walters/Dyer(Formica)

    RVP/Aguero/Sturridge

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Aguero to Ba Formica to Bale

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  9. Gustavo Fring
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Are Drenthe owners keeping or selling?

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Sold for Bale

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      1. Park the bus
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Bet you had to think long and hard about that one! Wish I was in such a position 🙁

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        1. Fratboy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          all I read was "long and hard" 😕

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        2. is_there_nanibody_out_there
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          keeping for this week, if he is still not back ill prob keep for another week, after that i would lose patience

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      2. Call Me Old Fashioned
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        14 years, 5 months ago

        I still dont know how long he is out for. If Moyes said something then I could decide. I maybe keeping him in hope he plays vs Norwich as I have to ship out Hernandez first.

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      have bale already so kept, every time i look at those fixtures after arsenal and remember what he's done with the minutes he has got this season i find it impossible to sell. only another no show next week can change my mind

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      1. Fabreghastly
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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  10. MCM
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Will anyone be looking at Vellios for the DGW? I know that he is more of an impact sub, and he's only scored when he's come off with the last 25mins to play. However, it will be a DGW, he looks bright and at the moment he's only 4.4.

    Would take up a precious Forward place though....

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      No. Unless Timmy Cahill regains some of his form from the early part of last season when he was 'hot property' I can't say I will be giving any offensive Everton player any house room for the dgw, including the 'injured' Drenthe.

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      1. Corrigan
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Gutted at our Sturridge to Adebayor moves, hey?

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        1. Just One More Thing
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Bloody right - and it could have been worse. Sturridge could easily have walked off with a hat-trick - best I've seen him play for a while to be honest.

          My main rival in my mini-league had Ade so I couldn't face another week without him. Didn't expect Newcastle to look so sloppy at the back - injuries may now change the whole complexion on that hitherto defensive stronghold.

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          1. Corrigan
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Your post has just echoed my thoughts 100%

            Scared of selling Aguero now!

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            1. Corrigan
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              *not just thoughts but position - I couldn't handle another Ade haul for a rival!

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  11. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    surely people must be giving up on Suarez now. i got rid this week for Ba but it enabled me to purchase Bale (no hit). I knew he would do nothing.

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    1. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      knew? you mean hoped!

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    2. Gustavo Fring
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I want to (and know that I should) sell for Ba but Liverpool have QPR at home so I'm hesitating...

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      1. Just One More Thing
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I gave up three weeks ago - he was unlucky not to get a goal tonight - but would hold with QPR up next week. Then get rid when he does nowt 😉

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  12. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    My 9 year old son: "I want to sell VDV and ADE"
    Me: "VDV to who?"
    Him: "Hrrrmmm... Nani"
    (I have spent hours mulling over this swap and he's got it in 10 seconds)
    Me: "OK, what does that leave you with?"
    Him: "6,9... I could get Ba"
    Me: "That'd be good."
    Him: "Wait, I want Suarez..." and then he goes off on some weird transfer travel that does not include Nani, Ba or Suarez.

    I desperately want to tell him he had it right the first time but am also desperately trying to let him make his own choices.

    Fatherhood, it's a f*cker 😉

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    1. cechmate
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Hmmm...he sounds like me.

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    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      How far behind him are you? 😉

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Fortunately still in front, but only coz he doesn't go with his gut feeling.

        The bloody wife has got periously close this gw too! My smugness has been severely reduced!

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Weekends must be hellish 🙂

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    3. RÏɠBY
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      haha that is brilliant
      (but don't let him sell ade)

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  13. Cruicky
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    So. Lucas out for season. Spearing banned for 3 games.

    Liverpool to buy another centre mid in January? 😀

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      they'll prob buy barkly or someone like that for something stupid like £20m.

      Can add henderson £20m, carroll £35m to the list.

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  14. Windmachine
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    not many comments on the red card?

    Does anybody here actually play real football?

    Never a red, never even a yellow. A perfect footballing challenge

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      +1000

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I totally agree. Being an L'pool fan I tend to keep quiet at these times but it was a tragic decision.

      Sod FPL and all that, it's Jay Spearing I feel really sorry for.

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    3. Ismail
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      +1000

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    4. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Red every day of the week for me. Reckless and nasty challenge. The fact that he gets the ball first is not relevant for me.

      http://yfrog.com/h7xw5maj

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  15. Corrigan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    We never discuss Dempsey and yet he always comes up trumps. If he was on pens, I'd bag him despite the fixtures. One of those players built for FPL and DGWs.

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      thats why his price is high. gets around 10 league goals a season. Like a young Tim Cahill.

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  16. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like I've drawn my scout cup match. If it's tied is it done of transfers made or overall points?

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    1. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Overall rank I think.

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    2. Fratboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      yep overall rank 100%

      what are your ranks?

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      1. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        77 points each.

        I'm 55k hes 110k

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        1. Fratboy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          hazaar! see you in the 3rd round mate! Unless either of you could grab bonus from tonight?

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    3. A.
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I checked the cup fixture list and you're through 😉

      He took a 4 point hit, so even though it says you're tied on 77 points, you're ahead.
      And you both have enrique from tonight's match, so baps won't change anything..

      You've got a higher overall rank 52k vs 110k anyway

      Overall rank is based on overall points then number of transfers, so transfers do make a difference

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      1. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
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        Result!

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  17. RÏɠBY
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    when does gw15 start?
    i need to make changes before possible price changes so i want to do them tonight

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  18. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on these transfers?

    Henandez and Drenthe/Pilkington to Bale and Welbeck.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      looks good to me.

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  19. Pat Mustard
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Ppl with Suarez, what ye doing?

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    1. fredwestham
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Switching to Ba

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      1. Pat Mustard
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        After QPR?

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        1. fredwestham
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Nope before...call me mad but Suarez is infuriating me...and I think Ba will do just as well in his next four or so

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    2. Gustavo Fring
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      I think I'm keeping for QPR at home.

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  20. Manani
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    except for walters, who is less than 7.5m and get more than 2 pts. consistently?

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      yaya toure. under the radar he gets good points. played every league game.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        i was thinking aobut him too.
        but need to get rid of walters to get enough fund for him.

        might wait after the two tough fixture and get him after, so i can do with no hits.

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      2. Fratboy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        +loads 🙂

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    2. Torreslove
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      larsson, barfa. but give barfa time to settle, he's a great prospect.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        i want people with pts. return right away,
        better one match late than 10 match early, as someone above said

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    3. Mind över Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Larsson, great shout

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  21. Torreslove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    anyone know why barfa was hauled off at half time?? injury? tactical?

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    1. fredwestham
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Tactical...wasn't in the game

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  22. Suarezchomper
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    For some reason I thought about taking silva out a second ago, just looking at Man citys fixtures I reckon he will be spared for the big games and might not do much in them. Do I just need to go to bed?

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    1. Torreslove
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      no mate you need to go have a drink and clear your head 😀

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      1. Suarezchomper
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        haha I don't know what came over me

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Silva was one of the main reasons I played my WC a few weeks back...now I want to play it again. Silva is relatively consistent but he was not at his best on Saturday. I need another 10+ points haul from him soon....

      May look at pushing some more cash into defence - Jones & Vermaelen with Richards/Enrique/Simpson

      with RVP, Ade and the Yak up front.

      Also deliberating over Nani for this week..

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      1. Suarezchomper
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        I was looking at nani myself aswell as Baines. I can downgrade VDV/Silva to Bale and get Jones in giving me a weekly back 4 of Vermaelen, Baines, Jones, Enrique.

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    3. Gustavo Fring
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I did Silva to Bale in GW10, and since then,

      Silva's points: 26
      Bale's points: 56

      Silva is consistent, but sometimes you need to gamble on someone who you think is going to score big. Bale may crash and burn, but when he does I'll swap for someone else who is on form.

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    4. Manani
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      thinking excatly the same thing yesterday.
      yaya>silva
      and so i can get my verm.

      he is a bit too consistent, want more excitiment.

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  23. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Hey all,

    Any thoughts on this team:

    Vorm - Krul
    Enrique - Jones - Richards - Simpson - NTaylor
    Silva - Nani - Larsson - Bale - Ferguson
    Sturridge - RVP - Ade

    (0.7 in the bank)

    Any suggestions would be great!

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Fergie out.

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    2. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nice team; Richards -> Vermaelen? or Ferguson -> B.Johnson or Dyer?

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    3. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Good apart from Ferg. We're on the cusp of winter!

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  24. Gustavo Fring
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Welbeck or Nani for Man Utd cover?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nani IMO

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    2. Mind över Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Nani - he might be playing further forward

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      1. Just One More Thing
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        +1 Tempted to get him.

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    3. QPR expects... glory!
      • 15 Years
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      Nani hands down

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  25. Ismail
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    who rotates well with vorm?
    have al habsi but wigan will never get clean sheets
    and everyone seems to be saying that krul wont get clean sheets with the new defence

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Howard or Schwarzer

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Coloccini is out for a week or 2 and Saylor was never that good in the first place. New's def will still be strong, imho.

      As you can guess, I've got Krul in 🙂

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Schwarzer, Friedel, Howard, Hennesey. If u only new it, how much research and effort is behind that. Krull too yeah

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      1. Ismail
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        thanks
        think ill just go with krul/schwarzer

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      hahahahaha a good one Demi

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  26. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    some PPI predictions:
    murphy 30, dembele 21, hangeland 18, dempsey 18, schwarzer 18

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      If u r right than great call. Tell us and next time then.

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    2. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      actually make schwarzer 16

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  27. Corrigan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Gutted at bailing on Schwarzer. Anyone do the same and looking to buy him back?

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Fulham fixtures go downhill after Bolton in gw16.

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    2. applebonkers
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      14 years, 5 months ago

      almost did for friedel but saved the transfer. after their next home game they have a bad run so i'd not sure it's worth rushing him back

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  28. Holy See
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Reina ouch. Bit unlike him but hey Enrique loses the cs. Maxi scored 3 in the fixture last season, don't understand why he didn't get a look in.

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  29. FPL Daniel
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    14 years, 5 months ago

    Any chance Ba and Vermy rising tonight? I think no, but I am afraid. I want to see the Ars CL game before transferring.

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