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11 December 2011 2540 comments
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With no televised (English) top-flight game yesterday, Sunday’s double-header has us eagerly anticipating some live Premier League action. The Dugout Discussion opens for the second day of Gameweek 15, with a relegation scrap and a game between two sides aiming for Europe.

We start at the Stadium of Light as Martin O’Neill takes over the reigns as Sunderland manager. His first assignment is against a Blackburn side whose manager, in total contrast, is hanging onto his job for dear life. Having said that, Steve Kean has a win against Swansea last week to build on. Here are the all-important team sheets…

Sunderland XI: Westwood, O’Shea, Bardsley, Brown, Bramble, Richardson, Larsson, Colback, Vaughan, Sessegnon, Wickham.

Blackburn XI: Robinson, Salgado, Samba, Dann, Givet, Formica, Dunn, Lowe, Pederson, Vuckevic, Yakubu.

Sunderland striker Niklas Bendtner is kept out with a groin injury, and in his place Connor Wickham gets his first league start since October. The visitors are also without a key striker, as Junior Hoilett picked up a training ground hamstring injury that sees him miss out.

Following that it’s over to the Britannia Stadium where Stoke City host Tottenham Hotspur. Stoke’s ambition this season will be to match last season’s success of reaching the Europa League, whereas the visitor’s will have their sights set on returning to Europe’s premier competition after a year out. That’ll then just leave Monday night’s grand finale at Stamford Bridge to bring the gameweek to a close.

The Dugout Discussion chatroom is open for all today’s action.

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  1. Nutella
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Which combo looks better for the upcoming week?

    A)Aguero TO Rooney
    VDV TO Mata
    For a 4 point hit

    OR

    B)Aguero TO Adebayor
    VDV TO Nani
    Brunt TO Mata
    For an 8 point hit

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  2. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    A) Ramsey and Brown > Nani and Shotton (-4)

    B) Ramsey and VDV > Nani and Bale (-4)

    Leaning towards A, feel like giving VDV one more week atleast...

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    1. Forest4Life
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      B

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  3. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on Ivanovic as a replacement for Santos. Chelsea have some nice fixtures apart from Tottenham(A).

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Thoughts on these transfers also.

      Santos to Ivanovic
      and
      VDV to Mata.

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    2. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Ivanovic?

      I wouldn't.

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  4. AD331
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Time for me to move on from VDV. He may still come good, but he just takes up way too much time in my though processes every week for one player 😀

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    1. AD331
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Thought*

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      1. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        that's true for me... maybe that is why he should be out.

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  5. DRIZ ✅
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    will adam get any bonus points???

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  6. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Is anyone keeping VDV for one last time against Sunderland? or are people ditching him this week?

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    1. seanrior
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Might keep him for next week, one last chance. If nothing then in Nani

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    2. maltasi
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Keeping

      A good player doesn't become bad overnight.

      Interested to hear from HR why he didn't take the penalty though

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    3. Monklane
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Keeping.

      Home to Sunderland? Who should I rather have?

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    4. bloggingking
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      hey man i'm keeping too. I just think that spurs will come out all guns blazing next game at home esp since today was so unfair. I think it would be more useful if you were to rectify weaker parts of the team den transfer vdv out to nani/mata since i think all 3 stand similar chances of getting big hauls. just my thoughts been wrong a lot this season 🙁

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    5. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yes. Giving him one last chance vs Sunderland.

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    6. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Would if I didn't have Ade, feel like spreading the wealth to Mata is worth it though.

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  7. IceMan DB
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Is VDV falling in price tonight?

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      not yet

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  8. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Suarez to Sturridge for -4 ...worth it ???

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    1. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Wouldn't be, but Suarez has a 2 game ban now does he not? In which case yes.

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  9. Crouch Potato!
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Just checked, Warnock has got assist instead of N'Zogbia. Magic.

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  10. Van Dal
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Why the eff didnt VdV take the pen?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      just happy that ade took it 😀

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      1. CRAZY TRAIN
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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  11. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Is there any fixtures cancel in this week ?


    From what i remember from last season that
    from 15-30 dec some fixtures are being at risk of cancelled

    .

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Well let me see how to answer this...

      IT DEPENDS IF IT SNOWS

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        And only if a club has no undersoil heating, a la Blackpool last season.

        My GW return of 3 points still haunts me...

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        1. Leysh
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I seem to remember Baines being an absolute hero for me that game week. Specially with the "Substitue Captain : Value"

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        2. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          I got 20 that week thanks to Timmy Cahill.

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          1. encored
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            n he hasn't scored since

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    2. Tommy J
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Only cos of snow-we're ok in England at the moment

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        What about fog?

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    3. msimms89
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      We'll be okay this week the only snow due is over the mountains, plenty of wind around though.

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  12. jfr
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    VDV was exactly the same as this last year.

    He is a big game player, runs hot and cold, and Stoke away is a fixture he clearly thinks he's a cut above. Just watch how he plays against Chelsea or Arsenal

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I thought VDV was a flat-track bully and does better in the easier games.

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  13. Ronaldinhos_Front_Tooth
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Is sinclairs goal gunna be downgraded to an assist. What does anyone think?

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      No it's a goal, on target.

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    2. Monklane
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      It must be, surely. As clear an own goal as you'll see.

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        You can't watch much football then

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        1. Leysh
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          It was a pretty clear own goal...

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            Well i'd say completely the opposite personally. It was 100% definitely going on target therefore definitely not an own goal. They've been the rules for a good while now

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            1. Rwilliams90
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              spot on

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        2. Monklane
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          What are you saying? It blatantly went in off of Dempsey.

          It'll probaby be given to Sinclair because, yes, it was on target. But it was a huge deflection. Plain old common sense says it was an own goal. Not that that counts for much in this game these days.

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            How do you decide how big a deflection is has to be before it is an own goal and not given to the player taking the shot?

            That's why if it is on target it's not an own goal. A simple solution

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    3. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Definite Sinclair goal imo. No, I don't have Sinclair.

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  14. Isabella
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Rooney + Mata
    vs
    Sturridge + Nani?

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    1. yanky
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      very even but a) due to less rotation risk and rooney on pens imo

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      1. Isabella
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        That's my thinking, just worried about not having Nani :/

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      2. McEwan
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        B must give you an extra 4 or 5 million. but in a straight choice, got to favour A

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    2. Viper
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney Mata 100% for me..

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      1. Isabella
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks

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  15. yanky
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    need a 5.8 replacement for richardson, wolves have two nice home games...

    O'Hara, Jarvis, Hunt? Hunt is on pk's but doesn't play too often, Jarvis Asst Man but I think O'Hara gets most forward, any wolves fan confirm this? O'hara best option of the three?

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    1. Le Bluff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Have the same dilemma myself am currently leaning towards Jarvis. O'Hara seems to be in a deeper role since Wolves have gone 4-4-2, and Jarvis has started to show some of his last season/early season form again. Tricky one though..

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  16. Viper
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    VDV -> Nani seems so obvious but then again he does have Sunderland at home..

    Play the form and the price rises OR the fixtures.. Not overly keen on those two upcoming United away game whereas VDV is home next two..

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    1. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Only if you have Ade & Bale

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      1. Viper
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Don't have Bale.. Ade & BAE

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    2. Retro
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      The only deciding factor I can think of is that by next week an awful lot of people will have Nani. Particularly casual players and Man Utd fans. So it might be better to get Nani to cover the chance of another good score, however unlikely.

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    3. De_Roiste
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Sunderland, under MON will be a different animal..

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  17. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Thinking of bringing C. Foy in for R. ShawX.

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    1. bloggingking
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      LOL NICE

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    2. The3rdTurd
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      -1 he'll miss pens

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        LOL.

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  18. Locarno
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Has Bonkers already done his BP guesses? Can't be bothered scrolling back through 2,000 "Huh? VDV didn't take that penalty?" posts.

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah he did them earlier ... maybe 3ish but I can't be bothered to scroll through to link it

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      1. Locarno
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks.

        Bastard. 🙂

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        1. Van Dal
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Link link link

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  19. Isabella
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Which clubs don't have undersoil heating?

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    1. msimms89
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      All of them do this year I think.

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    2. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Very good question. Remember Blackpool last year..

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  20. JoeySamSam
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Who to have? Nani, Mata or Silva?

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    1. Isabella
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on rest of team

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  21. rdb
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    anyone have an idea as to when the fantasy cup starts?

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    1. teto
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      already did

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      This month sometime.

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      1. rdb
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        its generally gw 18 or 19 i think but not sure

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  22. petergriff
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Hi guys, which transfers do you think are most needed?

    Vorm, Krul
    Simpson, Enrique, Jones, Brown, Wilko
    Silva, VDV, Bale, Dyer, Watson
    Ade, RVP, Bendtner
    0.6 in bank

    i) Bendy->Ba
    ii) Watson->O'Hara
    iii) VDV->Nani
    iV) Wilko->Ward

    Given the deadwood of Watson and Wilko, i think those 2 are priority to deal with busy xmas coming

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    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Bendy->Ba is an obvious choice.
      VDV switch - no point with a good fixture coming up.
      Wilko can wait too-you have 4 playing defenders.
      O Hara - good transfer although for all his goal attempts doesn't always deliver the ff pts he could potentially achieve.

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      1. petergriff
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks

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      2. Retro
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Don't you have Nani yourself though Jafa?

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        1. Jafalad
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          No. 😉

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  23. Laserface
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    My team for next week ..
    Krul
    Enrique Richards Simpson
    Nani VDV Bale Brunt
    Suarez RVP yakubu

    Subs -.Vermaelen Naylor Ferguson

    Any Suggestions regarding transfers/substitutions ??

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  24. Carlos Danger
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Stoke vs. Tottenham...

    Shawcross is such a filthy f*cking cheat, I hope he gets the bad karma he deserves

    I wonder how much of Stokes success at the Britannia is down to poor f*cking officiating, so many fouls not given at the top of stokes box, adebayors goal was CLEARLY onside, honestly there should be some kind of investigation Foy and the linesman was so blatantly biased, the only call that went tottenhams way was a pk foy couldn't possibly have not given. Tottenham were robbed

    vdv off pks, time to bail? I would've made a bale pun but I already own him

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    1. Isabella
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      +1

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    2. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      you really only needed to post the last line.

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      1. Carlos Danger
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        you really didn't need to post this comment

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        1. SPorting
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          i didn't. you posted the comment above.

          happy ranting!

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          1. Carlos Danger
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            you have now posted 2 unnecessary comments

            happy judging others!

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            1. SPorting
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 5 months ago

              unnecessary comments? me?
              judging others? me?

              thanks for your valuable insights into filthy f*cking Shawcross and cheating Foy.

              59 points excluding BP's. some people are never happy.

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              1. Carlos Danger
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 5 months ago

                shawcross elbowed a ball off the line that would've been a goal, dragged kaboul down in the box when he surely would have won a header, kaboul got a yellow for appealing for a pk and later would be sent off for a second yellow. Shawcross was a cheat today. I don't know how the linesman could've possibly missed ade bein onside for his goal, and foy didn't give several fouls at the top of the box at the end of the game for tot giving stoke an easy ride in. Sorry if you don't like they way I said these things, I concede I was frustrated but things like that ruin the game and it bothers me... some things are more important that fantasy soccer. (tho not many :p)

                You decide that you are somehow above making observations, and instead of just ignoring them in your high and mightiness you decide to come down to my level and tell me I shouldn't say these things...

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                1. SPorting
                  • 14 Years
                  14 years, 5 months ago

                  i'm certainly not above anything. indeed, i can agree that TOT were robbed.

                  but calling ShawX a f*cking cheat and ranting about Foy and the linesmen smothers your very good point about Bale-ing on VDV.

                  and your level seems like a good place to be. i'm down with that.

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                  1. Carlos Danger
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    haha fair enough... I suppose shawX/foy may have been a bit much. Most of my frustration is coming from the fact that vdv could've had a goal and an assist, I would've felt so justified for keeping him in! now he seems destined to fund nani after I sell him like 4 weeks too late

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                  2. SPorting
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    same. boat.

                    still left with the dilemma of shipping out for Nani/Mate/Bale or keeping for a plum tie at home to SUN.

                    VDV just didn't look comfortable on corners. lost PK duties to Ade.

                    hammy twinge still an issue?

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                  3. Carlos Danger
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    possibly, and modric took a fair few of those corners as well! still, i've kept him this long, and a home game to sunderland seems prime for a vdv goal. Do i sell larsson after his winner against blackburn?! decisions, decisions

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                  4. SPorting
                    • 14 Years
                    14 years, 5 months ago

                    i'm keeping VDV.

                    i have more pressing issues with Drenthe and Sess.

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  25. WOLVERiNES
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Doing Aguero > ade and Ramsey > Mata right now.. before ramseys price drops.. 4 pt hit

    Already lost ramsey>nani by 0.1 because of aguero price drop..

    What do you guys think ??

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    1. Le Bluff
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah do it. I'm shipping Ramsey out tonight - he's been the biggest 2 point disappointment for me this year!

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  26. Van Dal
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Cant believe rival is gettn moses 10 off the bench. Hes been
    So lucky this season!!!!!

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      my rival is getting 15 from etherington. I feel your pain.

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    2. msimms89
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Oh I'm so lucky, I've been so lucky this season.

      I'm luckier than an Irishman dipped in leprechaun piss.

      Twat.

      Only joking 🙂

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      1. Van Dal
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        Hahahah no!

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  27. Mihai Roman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Wilko>Evans now? I have exactly .4 to do it now, and I'm afraid that if I wait he might rise tomorrow. What do you guys think?

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    1. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      yep, seems good

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  28. Corrigan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Jafa, I'm keeping Brown, but I think Turner will go for Caulker or Gabbidon. Most likely the latter as post-Utd it's playable home games till March.

    I have Jonny Evans on the radar, but only 3 CSs again this w/e so chasing CSs feels like a lottery. Vermaelen may be too expensive and I've missed the boat with Enrique. One of my biggest regrets has not been trusting the Pool defence.

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks for the info on Gabbidon.

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      1. Corrigan
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        for the price, he's nailed on, rotates with Naylor and QPR are pretty tight at home and are not averse to an away cleanie

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    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      I'm tempted to do a hit and get Evans in for Brown. Starting to get hacked off with SUN. Just wish Evans would be a guaranteed starter from now on.

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  29. Carlos Danger
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    Just saw the moses goal, what a finish, can't decide between his and rvp for best goal of the week

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 5 months ago

      lol leave it out

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      1. Carlos Danger
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 5 months ago

        what?

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 5 months ago

          Sorry i thought you were joking

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          1. Carlos Danger
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 5 months ago

            how could that have been a joke, both were cracking goals

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  30. LaLaLand
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 5 months ago

    are rvp adebayor rooney nani moses vorm naylor jones likely to rise ?

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