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3 January 2012 2169 comments
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The cameras will be down at the Etihad Stadium but our thoughts will certainly be focused on events at White Hart Lane as Spurs play their first of two gameweek fixtures carrying the hopes and armbands of many Fantasy managers. The Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the joy and pains at the Lane as they happen.

The team news finds Rafael Van der Vaart, Emmanuel Adebayor and the heavily backed Gareth Bale safely nestled in Harry Redknapp’s lineup. Scott Parker’s absence leads to a shift to 4-4-2 though, with Jermain Defoe up front with Adebayor – that may well prove to be significant given the recent success of Bale and Van der Vaart in the 4-3-3, only time will tell. What we do know is that Spurs are up against an injury ravaged West Brom side, without the likes of Chris Brunt, Shane Long, Jonas Olsson and Youssouf Mulumbu; Graham Dorrans, Craig Dawson, Simon Cox and George Thorne all start for Roy Hodgson’s men.

Elsewhere tonight, City face Liverpool, while Wigan take on Martin O’Neill’s Sunderland. The most significant news from the team-sheets in that one is that Roberto Martinez appears to have rested Victor Moses to the bench, despite his recent form. Sunderland meanwhile, have Kieran Richardson back in their lineup. He comes in for Seb Larsson, the latest to be struck down by the Black Cats’ virus – nasty stuff clearly.

There’s no Luis Suarez at City tonight, as reported earlier, the Uruguayan starts his eight-match ban with immediate effect. Bizarrely, Kenny Dalglish goes into the game without Craig Bellamy, electing to bring Dirk Kuyt into his starting lineup in place of the Welshman; Steven Gerrard is once again on the bench. As expected, City bring back the big guns – David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Gael Clichy, James Milner and Micah Richards all make returns.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    GUYS please rate this WC TRansfer

    Enrique > Caulker then Moses to sessegnon

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    1. Champ
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      Good

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      1. blind faith
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        Is caulker nailed on now?

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  2. The Finnisher
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    Okay - no United on WC, decided..I think.

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    1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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      Really? None? Why Not?

      Also.....you keep saying Richards over Kompany....why? Surely the .3 can be found somewhere, considering Kompany is nailed on.

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      1. The Finnisher
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        I may or may not, it comes down to Richards and Demspey or Shotton and Nani.
        I don't have that extra scrap of cash for Kompany, Kompany is still a better pick.

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        1. The Finnisher
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          It really depends on what Nani does today..

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          1. The Finnisher
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            which over there is tomorrow 😕

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            1. Browndog
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              so you are happy to make that call on one of the premium mids going on his next game? surely your wc team would be picked for long term ? dont understand that theory really?

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    2. iCon
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      It's a risk not having any cover as it's united's time of the year.....still who to get?

      Valencia looks great at minute, but you just never know with SAF what he'll do next....

      ....food for thought

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    3. Parm
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Gone for Nani & Jones in my WC team.

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  3. deccoo
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Would appreciate thoughts and suggestions on v0.1 wildcard moves please. 

    Current team...
    Vorm  |  Krul
    BAE  |  Enrique  |  Simpson  |  Naylor  |  Brown
    Silva  |  Nani  |  Drenthe  |  Moses  |  Bale
    RVP  |  Ade  |  Yak

    So, for WC what do you think of...

    Brown > Kelly (FUL)
    Drenthe > McClean (Yes...utter knee jerk!)
    Ade > Aguero
    Krul > Mignolet

    Any thoughts?

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    1. 4vets
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      Get rid of BAE

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      1. fatherted
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        He played very well tonight

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      2. deccoo
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        Was thinking as next transfer out but have to fancy him at home to Wolves?

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  4. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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    does anyone know a site where it gives you the proper leagues as they stand live without having to work it out and wait for the league to be updated

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    1. Voyeur
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      BBC does on their live updates page

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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        Ha

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      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
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        Sorry all i meant the fantasy leagues 🙂

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  5. applebonkers
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    on OPTA bale has 2 shots on 0 off, VDV 2 on 2 off, defoe 1 on 2 off.

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    1. The Finnisher
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry bout the earlier stats - ESPN bollocks.

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      1. applebonkers
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        nothing to be sorry about. for all we knoe FPL may use those stats, those stats being all shots blocked = a shot off target

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  6. iCon
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    I’ve been doing a bit of a survey to see what percentage of ppl are on WC this week; so far there’s only 6.25% WCing according to responses i’ve got at various times today.

    Would like a few more results to make sure it’s as accurate as possible, so if you could just respond with an aye or nay as to whether you’ve hit the button this week or not, that’d be great.

    Cheers 🙂

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    1. Le Bluff
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      Nay.

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    2. Towser44
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      Aye

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      doubt I will, probs just 1 for for me this week, Ba out for someone of 7.2 or less (already have Danny Sturridge, so not sure who yet)

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      1. AriseSirGiggsy
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        me too
        what are you thinking? im slightly tempted by WELLBECK

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        1. Spiritof76
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          I moved Ba out, picked up Morrison and upgraded at the back (Brown>Jagielka) for DGW. Might have picked up Bellamy in retrospect, but it is playing out alright so far this week.

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    4. The Bandit
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      Nay

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    5. AriseSirGiggsy
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      nay

      if you wanna make money now is the time - but if your team looks strong no need to kneejerk it for the sake of making 3-4 transfers

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      1. iCon
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        This is why i'm doing the survey tbh.....if majority aren't WCing then there won't be massive rises/falls (well, that's how I read it). I was all set to WC, but then realised not many doing it. Surely it's best to WC when most WC to maximise rises/team value? Or am I missing something here?

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    6. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Nope

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    7. CABAYE4
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      Nay

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    8. Mull
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      Nay

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Not I

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    9. 4vets
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      Nope... can't even find a good way of using my ft before I wc next gw!

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      1. Mull
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        Double up on a defence with a nice fixture.

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    10. Random_Guy
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      Nuppers.

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      1. iCon
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        Tut Tut, got your vote this morning!

        You do realise voting more than once is illeagal???? 🙂

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    11. Parm
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      Um erm Aye.
      I JUST COULDN'T RESIST

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    12. fatherted
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      Nada

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    13. Pinturicchio
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      nay

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    14. Captain Robert Hatch
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      nope

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    15. King Eric, in America
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      Noooooooooooooope.

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    16. kennethrhcp
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      nay

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    17. Doc Graham
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      nope, thinking about next week atm, but may change mind depending on price rises/falls

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  7. Cowshed - Blue & White …
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    BAE to VDV to Bale before Defoe scores. Good play my boys.

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  8. kosmonaut
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    I was planning to hold the wc, but not sure after looking to see what kind of team I can get.

    vorm - ruddy
    kompany - bae - jones - mcauley - caulker
    mata - silva - bale - valencia - moses
    van persie - aguero - yak

    What you guys think?

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    1. Albert Cole
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      What kind of crazy value does that make?

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      1. kosmonaut
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        Current team is 110.3 with .3 in the bank. Selling value 105.8 or something. Had Vorm/Silva from the get go.

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  9. Davidmon
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    cheers to whoever gave the heads up that real madrid were playing and losing 0-2. i put a few quid on them winning or drawing and looks like they gonna win! BOOM TING!

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    1. Fudge
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      At what odds?

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      1. Davidmon
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        5.5 win
        4.0 draw

        BOOM TING!

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        1. Fudge
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          Fair play, was gonna stick a fiver on 3-2 exactly but forgot my password hahaa

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      3/1 at half time to win

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  10. "The Special One"
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    Roughly what time will the game be updated 2nite??

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      2am

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  11. Pinturicchio
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    46 - points Kompany earned since I sold him

    18- points his replacements have earned in that same time

    🙁

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Shouldn't have spent so long depressing yourself, just move on!

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    2. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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      I love the cheapo defense strategy.......except for the fact that it has cost me Kompany this year.

      The worst part is that City's defense hasn't been spectacular....who would have thought after last year that Kompany would be involved in so many goals?

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    3. fatherted
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      I had him till his red card and then got big bad Micah. Started off great but 3 frustrating games before tonight!!

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    4. drughi
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      yeah its sickening, had a bad feeling once he was out of my team

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      1. Pinturicchio
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        you a Juve fan right?? with a name like that

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  12. hillbillypete
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Im off to Anfield on Fri

    Who will win???

    1. Liverpool

    2. Oldham

    3. Draw

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    1. The Bandit
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      Liverpool, don't take your car! 😉

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      1. 4vets
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        ... or someone else will 😉

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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          youll be fine if you pay a couple o kids to 'watch yer car mate'

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      desperate scousewives.

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  13. SouthCoastSaint
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    RIGHT!
    Those of us who have had a mare (21 points -8!!!) FEAR NOT!
    If moyes pulls his finger out of his uptight arse and plays drenthe, my players all stay injury free and no bookings, im looking at at least 20 points from the DGW players!
    (jags, bale, ade, osman, drenthe, gallas)
    HAPPY DAYS
    ALL IS NOT LOST

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    1. hillbillypete
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      havent u said this already?

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Again?

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    3. AriseSirGiggsy
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      did u use your massive brain to pick players with 2 fixtures? slow down einstein

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    4. 4vets
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      Oh dear. Once was enough.

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      1. SouthCoastSaint
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        14 years, 4 months ago

        Gents I apologise profusely. I can assure you it was a technical hitch, I can't stand when people re post a team because it's so average nobody can be bothered to read it!

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  14. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    Guys can i get some more opinions

    Enrique> Caulker and Moses > Sessegnon. I bought enrique for 5.0 mill.

    Cheers

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    1. deccoo
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Keep Enrique

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  15. Big_Andy_GAWA
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    26 points with 12 to play, including Bale as captain. Any cop ??

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    1. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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      12 to play?

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
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      your newcastle defenders are gonna get screwed tomorrow

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  16. hillbillypete
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    I remember when i had Crespo in my team

    *sigh*

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  17. Locarno
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    I'd normally be happy with 34 points with 8 players come, but it's gonna be a big fat red arrow.

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    1. sy
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      Id be happy with 34 points!

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  18. GlasgowFF
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Can someone advise me.

    I have not used my original wildcard. Should I wildcard tonight will the game know that I am using my January wildcard as opposed to the one I had at the start?

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    1. Captain Robert Hatch
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      isn't that a bit unnerving

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      It should know you are using the winter one.

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  19. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
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    why oh why did i give ade the armband at the last minute...........i f**kin hate this game sometimes

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    1. GlasgowFF
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      Fook it.

      Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. He could score a hatrick vs Everton.

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Seems the feeling is mutual.

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    3. sy
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      Gameweek isnt over, he could easily score a few and then you will be happy with ur last minute decision

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    4. The Bandit
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      It's only half time, get a grip....

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    5. AriseSirGiggsy
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      hes on pens
      thats why i went with him for (C)

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      1. andy85wsm
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        but is he?

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    6. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      yeah same here. lots in mini league went for bale. i am plummeting tonight

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  20. Champ
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    Tempted to get Huth in for wc....some nice fixtures but scarcity of cleanies making me nervous

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
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      hes been really close to goals in every match in the last 4-6 weeks
      it will happen

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      1. Champ
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        Thnks for that mate

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  21. Mr Smith
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Team currently:

    Vorm, Krul
    Jones, Enrique, BAE, Simpson, Shotton
    Nani, Bale, Silva, Drenthe, Gomez
    Ade, Sturridge, VP

    Thinking about activating the wildcard to this:

    Vorm, De Vries
    Kompany, Enrique, Evans, Simpson, Kelly
    Nani, Bale, Silva, Valencia, Surman
    Aguero, Sturridge, VP

    Stick or twist?

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    1. deccoo
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      Nani and Valencia overkill with their upcoming fixtures

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      1. Mr Smith
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        How about Dempsey, Silva, Bale, Valencia, Derry and Jones in for Evans?

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  22. Albert Cole
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    What's up with Caulker? What kind of player is he? And suddenly nailed on?

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    1. The Finnisher
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      He always was nailed on.

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    2. McDog
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      He's not suddenly naied on. He was injured and now he's not.

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      1. McDog
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        *nailed

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  23. pimpmysideFC
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    Anyone know what happened to Gallas?

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    1. Davido989
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      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm sorry to say but I headbutted him.

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    2. Jimmers
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      went off injured

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    3. afcblegend
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      Looked like a little hamstring injury, he just pulled up.

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  24. afcblegend
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    I like to think that by now the points have averaged out enough and the top scoring 5-10 defenders/mids/strikers will remain there come the end of the season barring injury. Biggest shock for me so far has been Ba and Walters! I don't like Stoke but is it worth Drenthe > Walters?

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    1. Fudge
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      He's coming into my team, home machine

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  25. Lord Flashheart
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    Help!!!!

    Just made 8 transfers for the wc, pressed make transfers instead of play wildcard.... Stupid iPad!
    If I make another transfer and press play wildcard will I not lose the 28 points for the transfers right?
    Right??

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    1. sy
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      Right

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      if you make another transfer and use the wilcard this time, you will keep your points on the 8 previous transfers you just made.

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    3. Parm
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      Think so

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    4. Champ
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      Its fine

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    5. "The Special One"
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      YES,, JUST ACTIVATE WILDCARD...

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    6. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      Right

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    7. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Right, and you can go on making changes until the next deadline.

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    8. pimpmysideFC
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      If you use your wild card all you will not lose any points for transfers made in that GW even if they were made prior to the WC being used. i.e play the WC and no points deducted

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    9. Lord Flashheart
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      Oh thank god!

      And thats not even the worst thing I did - I got rid or rvp to sponsor super strong midfield...
      I know I will regret that...
      But a midfield of nani silva bale dempsy and sess might be worth rvp to Fletcher 🙂
      I know - I'm an idiot....

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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        I like that idea. RVP will pull up with a hamstring one of these days. I was thinking of doing Aguero and The Yak, plus Helguson or Morison and cramming the midfield full of top boyos =o)

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  26. Ninjaa
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    thinking of gradually getting aguero in over the next 3 weeks will need these 3 moves:

    week 1) nani>valencia
    week 2) enrique>caulker
    week 3) sturridge>aguero

    would give me a front line of aguero rvp adebayor

    thanks for opinions.

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  27. Parm
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    Are the F.A Cup replays played on a weekday therefore not effecting the Premier League

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Yep

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  28. andy85wsm
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    A lot can change between now and then but I'm thinking of using my WC in time for GW24, and even with my current team I only want to make 6 changes...

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    1. 4vets
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      I'm looking at 6 changes to play in gw 22, I think.

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    2. McDog
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      Yeah GW24 is the best week to use it IMO

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  29. Littlebitwizardoföz
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    Sturridge + Moses ----------- Fletcher and Sessegnon? Both in great form at the moment, however it would be -4 pts. Wolves not with the easiest fixtures over the coming gameweeks but Fletcher has done it against the big teams. Also, Caulker (+ Swansea defenders) long term option?

    Any thoughts please? Thanks.

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  30. 4vets
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    Totally unplanned but I think I look strong for the next gw

    Krul
    Evans, Baines, BAE. Enrique
    Silva, Nani, Bale,
    RVP, Ade, Studge

    (Vorm – Drenthe, Dyer, Brown)

    Drenthe & Brown being the weak links. It seems like the wc will have to wait.

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