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3 January 2012 2169 comments
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The cameras will be down at the Etihad Stadium but our thoughts will certainly be focused on events at White Hart Lane as Spurs play their first of two gameweek fixtures carrying the hopes and armbands of many Fantasy managers. The Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the joy and pains at the Lane as they happen.

The team news finds Rafael Van der Vaart, Emmanuel Adebayor and the heavily backed Gareth Bale safely nestled in Harry Redknapp’s lineup. Scott Parker’s absence leads to a shift to 4-4-2 though, with Jermain Defoe up front with Adebayor – that may well prove to be significant given the recent success of Bale and Van der Vaart in the 4-3-3, only time will tell. What we do know is that Spurs are up against an injury ravaged West Brom side, without the likes of Chris Brunt, Shane Long, Jonas Olsson and Youssouf Mulumbu; Graham Dorrans, Craig Dawson, Simon Cox and George Thorne all start for Roy Hodgson’s men.

Elsewhere tonight, City face Liverpool, while Wigan take on Martin O’Neill’s Sunderland. The most significant news from the team-sheets in that one is that Roberto Martinez appears to have rested Victor Moses to the bench, despite his recent form. Sunderland meanwhile, have Kieran Richardson back in their lineup. He comes in for Seb Larsson, the latest to be struck down by the Black Cats’ virus – nasty stuff clearly.

There’s no Luis Suarez at City tonight, as reported earlier, the Uruguayan starts his eight-match ban with immediate effect. Bizarrely, Kenny Dalglish goes into the game without Craig Bellamy, electing to bring Dirk Kuyt into his starting lineup in place of the Welshman; Steven Gerrard is once again on the bench. As expected, City bring back the big guns – David Silva, Sergio Aguero, Gael Clichy, James Milner and Micah Richards all make returns.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. DVassell
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    how does this wc team look? i can also take 8 pnt hit to get this team...
    RMT Please....

    ________________Lindegaard________________

    Simpson___________BAE_____________JEvans

    Mata_____Silva____________Bale_________Nani

    Sturridge__________RVP______________Aguero

    Subs:

    Vorm____Moses_____Caulker______Kelly

    To get this team i did:

    Krul------------->Lingegaard
    Richards------->JEvans
    Adebayor------>Aguero

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Why is everyone keeping BAE?

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Wolves (h) ?

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      2. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        They play Wolves next so it's fair enough as long as they have a decent transfer lined up for when they play City the following week.

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Yea... but after WIG? Surely one uses one's wc for the long term?

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      3. Taribo West on a free
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        He looked alright tonight, his offensive qualities are improving IMO

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    2. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Keep your WC imo. So many people ready to waste their WC when their teams are perfectly fine as is...

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Play Vorm this week, get Lindegard next week. 4 point hit. Save the WC
      In fact get Aguero next week too

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      1. DVassell
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I can play krul this week since it's (h) to QPR

        you're right, this transfer can be done next week for a 4 point hit

        looking at it again though are these actually good moves in the longterm?

        Krul————->Lingegaard
        Richards——->JEvans
        Adebayor——>Aguero

        my defense now looks really light and my team too top heavy don't u reckon?

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    4. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      If I'm honest it's not great. It's a good side but you had a good side already. Don't wildcard to make sideways moves.

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      1. DVassell
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        you're right which is why looking at the above i can just wait and do krul + kelly > lindegaard/sorensen + jevans

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  2. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Is Aguero Silva and Kompany too much city??

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    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      About 3 players too much

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    2. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Not enough. But rules are rules.

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    3. I want RVP out
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      nope. Is everything you need.
      Im thinking of that too!

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  3. som3awy
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    14 years, 4 months ago

    What a goal by Ronaldo! Offside tho 😀

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  4. jamie20
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    GW21....Sessegnon che(a) or moses city(h) clearly that is the question?

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Sessegnon, no contest

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      1. jamie20
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        At the moment that is what i have with Moses first sub.

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  5. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Changed my mind, Nani back in, Richards out.
    Just writing my thoughts, ignore..

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Oh... I have both in my future planned wc team... or maybe Komps instead of Richards.

      Sorry, I'm too compulsive to ignore.

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  6. Simian Master Ace
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    anyone else think Ruiz looked pretty sharp?

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    1. afcblegend
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Yep. Ruiz looked very good the other day. Reminds me a bit of Berbatov with his touch and movement. Out of the Fulham attackers you've got Zamora, Dembele, Ruiz, Dempsey all looking pretty interesting options, problem is I can't choose one out of them!

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      yes
      but Zamora when fit and happy is a really good centre forward now
      a snip at 6.6

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    3. CABAYE4
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      He's a striker on the game isn't he, midfield i might go for him but Zamora is a better option as a forward imo.

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  7. pimpmysideFC
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I want to get Sessegnon in my team, but my midfield is strong and I wouldn't know what to do with the excess cash. Is it worth replacing Valencia with Sessegnon?

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    1. Simian Master Ace
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      wait and see what happens tomorrow with valencia

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Crazy talk. Valencia is at home to Bolton, Sessegnon away to Chelsea.

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      1. pimpmysideFC
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I like your team, what are you planning to do with the excess cash you have in the bank?

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        1. McDog
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Drenthe > Dempsey

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          1. pimpmysideFC
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            That's the problem Drenthe isn't getting the game time, I don't know why, he seems creative on the ball and if he plays both games this GW could get a healthy double figures. Good choice with Dempsey good set of fixtures, this time of year esp with the WC, teams merge into one but I think Dempsey will stand out a little

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            1. McDog
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 4 months ago

              Aye, I don't think Moyes really trusts Drenthe yet, he's a bit of a loose cannon and he doesn't really do much tracking back. Unfortunate because he could potentially be fantasy gold.
              You're team is very strong actually, but getting in Sessegnon sounds a bit knee-jerky. I definitely wouldn't lose Valencia. He's an assist machine at a very reasonable price. He stays in my team as long as he's nailed on.

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              1. pimpmysideFC
                • 14 Years
                14 years, 4 months ago

                That is a shame because I think he could score really well if he got the game time. I think i'll hang on to Valencia. I do like the look of Sessegnon and MON seems keen to play him higher up the pitch. I think he'll finish the season being excellent value for money.

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  8. roytommy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    am i missing summat-
    flashscores are saying the spurs v everton match is postponed?

    can anyone enlighten me?

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Rioting, again?!?

        Oh, the humanity ...

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      2. roytommy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        thanks but is that the august initial game which was postponed- flashscores is saying the 11 jan game

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  9. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Looking to maximise on profits during wild card week?
    this window provides 12 days and therefore 12 opportunities for player value to increase
    buuuuuuuuut
    if this week isnt suitable look to GW23 - this provides 10 days.......

    however tactically its best to wait till GW24

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    1. Bendy Busdriver
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      forget it not worth it

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  10. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Noo Poaste

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  11. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Ade has gone a little while without a goal.. reckon he'll deliver against Everton? I have him (C) and my H2H rival has Bale (C).

    Also, BPs for
    A) Bale
    B) Ade
    C) BAE
    D) Silva

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    1. Simian Master Ace
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      your screwed re: ade vs bale (C)

      A). 2
      B). 0
      C). 0
      D). 2

      not that im biased....

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      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I like these predictions...

        Would rather....
        A.) 3
        B.) 1 (miraculously, as has been the case before)
        C.) 0 (but 1 for Walker instead)
        D.) 3

        More likely....
        A.) 2
        B.) 0
        C.) 0
        D.) 0 (or 1 at best)

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  12. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Ok, just a few shy of having a decent data set (47 at present), but it's currently about 8.5% WCing at present. I reckon that figure will go up towards the next gameweek, but prolly not by a whole bunch. Am I right in assuming there will be more price rises/value to be gained if WCing at the same time as most?

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    1. Simian Master Ace
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      you can get too fixated on price rises. Its more important to pick the right players. If you going to spend time on research spend it on working out the best players to buy rather than the players that everyone else is buying. imho.

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    2. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      is all this thought time actually worth the mere possibility of an extra 0.1 in the bank?

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Awwww ... c'mon, don't pee in the lad's cereal ... he seems to be a stat-head. Let him dabble. 😀

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      2. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Prolly not, but i'm only second season and still learning stuff (like gaining team value) which all helps in the long run. When I WC'd before I really brought team value up, which means I have some options with this WC, whereas before I had a team value of under 100M 😳

        Anyways, just a bit of a folly tbh

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          Am with you. My second year to and this year am trying to figure it out. I am using WC week 22 because it is the best week for my team. Not really thinking about making $ during WC but really on getting the team I want.

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    3. afcblegend
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      ...come again?

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    4. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Although that seems intuitively true, it would need to happen such that people made trades near the same time ... otherwise, Yak goes up 0.2 - and as others buy him, others sell ... thus stagnating the NTI.

      So timing would seem to be key, yeah?

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      1. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        But with Bandwagons most ppl seem to jump on the same players at the same time.....or am I excluding the casual player to much who prolly makes up the bulk of the people playing the game?

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          I think trying to grab some rises is good business if it doesn't interfere with you getting the team you want from your WC.

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          1. iCon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Goes without saying....mind, I somehow ended up with Dzeko coming off last WC.....as I said, still learning

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        2. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          My impression is that the bump in team value, during the WC itself, is rather modest ... 0.3 - 0.5 in realized value (rather than accrued value). The big bounce occurs over the next week to four as the good players you've brought in continue to increase.

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          1. iCon
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah, 100% agree. Prolly not as important in the WC window as it was in the last (unless you're a tight git and still have the original WC)

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  13. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Aargh knew I should've got Defoe in instead of Adebayor..! Hopefully Adebarndoor will net a couple against Everton??

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  14. Turbodog
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    RMWCT:

    Vorm Lindegaard
    Kompany Simpson Senderos Naylor BAE
    Bale Valencia Dempsey Silva Moses
    Aguero RVP Ade

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    1. Simian Master Ace
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      not moses. surely?

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      1. Turbodog
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        never had him ... why ever not! he seems to be doing quite well these days

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        1. Turbodog
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          wanted someone a little better than Surman - in that he plays more often

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        2. Simian Master Ace
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          hes jinxed by the podcast and feels like a bad penny to me...

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      2. Top Heavy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Moses is improving but if ya can find the cash get sess

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Excellent team. Is that for this week or is that just the team you're planning?

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  15. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Ok I did the unthinkable and got rid of rvp for my wc team to sponsor a strong midfield and some power in defense.
    Since it's wc, and I bought rvp 4 weeks ago when he was the same price, it's versable, but please tell me if you think the rvp loss was compensated enough, or suggest ways to bring him back (0.6 in the bank):
    Sorensen mingolet
    Jones p. Baines Rangel mcualy Kelly
    Silva nani bale sess dempsy
    Sturridge ade Fletcher

    Thanks for your opinions

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      would you prefer a pat on the head or a kick in the balls? that seems to be what your asking for

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      1. Top Heavy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I didn't immediately condem your decision to drop RVP until I saw your frontline!!

        No Rooney? Aguero?
        Poor team.

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  16. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    So those that have used their WC...still happen you have done?

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      huh?

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I'm sorry ... looking at your grav, I haven't read a word you've written.

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    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      They are very happen. 🙂

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        HAPPY!

        ???

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    4. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      WC players i currently want

      Gerrard
      Gallas
      J Evans
      Zamora
      Aguero
      Henry (yes that one)

      in that order......

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      1. Pinturicchio
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        I think Gallas got injured today..don't know how serious

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      2. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        christ, thats a team of cripples!

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        1. AriseSirGiggsy
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          only 1 injured currently..... heard gallas mite have done sumthing tonight
          all big hitters with low ownership % or value defenders in top sides

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    5. McDog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Nice gravatar.

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        thought it was time for a change from hillbillyjim!

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        1. McDog
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 4 months ago

          And a very nice change it is 😉

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  17. Pinturicchio
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Who can I get

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    1. Pinturicchio
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      below 4.2m to replace Boyata as my last sub. No stoke

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Kelly

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    2. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      kelly.

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  18. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    84 in the 2nd WC League. 🙂

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  19. Top Heavy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Any ROI followers out there no of McClean has switched alliance to is from Northern Ireland??

    He could surely get a call up if he continues this form.

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Don't think he has played for either, but has appar. declared he wants to play for the Republic. Pity, IMO...

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    2. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      If you just borrowed HillyPete's Grav, the name/grav would be pretty perfect....

      ...and not quite sure what you're sayin' btw....a few drinks tonight?

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    3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Played for Norn Iron under 21's but has switched since. Seems a sensible lad.

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      1. Top Heavy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        Good man buzz 😉

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  20. pimpmysideFC
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone notice all of the top 5 players captained RVP and they all had Bale with a double GW?

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    1. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Nope, not a soul.....

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 4 months ago

        😆

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  21. Go_To_Sleep1
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    When BA is at ACON who do you think will play for Newcastle upfront?

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Alan Shearer.

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    2. Top Heavy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      New signing, if none then best most likely

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  22. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    IS hanley for Blackburn locked in?

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  23. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    NEW POST a while ago

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  24. afcblegend
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    I don't like Mata and he's not going in my team. There, I've said it.

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  25. DVassell
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Eulreka! ok i think i've succeeded. This is the WC dream team with my budget, check out the top 4 coverage:

    ____________Lindegaard______________

    Richards_______BAE___________JEvans

    Valencia____Mata___Silva_________Bale

    Aguero________RVP__________Sturridge

    Subs:

    Vorm_____Moses_____Caulker____Kelly

    0.1 left

    You liiiiiike?????

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    1. Hits Magnet
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      I had Mata and Sturridge but in the Chelsea attack they just don't get enough points to warrant both. I'd downgrade Mata to Walters but only play him at home and use the extra 3m to grab another big defender or up grade moses

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  26. B.P.R.D.
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    WC team with a defender missing and 2.2 in the bank.

    Lindegaard/Vorm
    Richards/J Evans/Senderos/Simpson
    Silva/Valencia/Dempsey/Sess/Moses
    RVP/Aguero/Ade

    Where do you downgrade to fill that defender gap? Richards? Ade?

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    1. B.P.R.D.
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      Ade - > Sturrridge would free up cash and add Chelsea coverage. While losing Tottenham coverage.

      Damn.

      Back to the drawing board I think!

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  27. Dan987
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Is yakubu off to ACON? Or does this just mean a general re-call to the squad??

    http://sports.peacefmonline.com/soccer/201201/86964.php

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  28. FPL Marc
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Vorm, Ruddy
    Enrique, Jones, Kompany, Shotton, Santon
    Bale, Nani, Sessegnon, Cabaye, Moses
    Van Persie, Adebayor, Sturridge

    ...is my current team. Is it worth sacrificing a prolific striker to perfect that midfield? I'm thinking of:

    Vorm, Mignolet
    Enrique, Jones, Kompany, Shotton, Senderos
    Bale, Silva, Sessegnon, Valencia, Ben Arfa
    Van Persie, Adebayor, Yakubu/Helguson

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  29. Ninjaa
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    thinking of gradually getting aguero in over the next 3 weeks will need these 3 moves:

    week 1) nani>valencia
    week 2) enrique>caulker
    week 3) sturridge>aguero?

    would give me a front line of aguero rvp adebayor

    thanks for opinions

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    1. RonnayBarkay
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 4 months ago

      That's my front line of RVP, Aguero and Abebayor!

      This has been achievable whilst playing a midfield of Bale, Silva and Valencia.....it gets better my defence is Kompany, RTaylor, Gallas and Simpson. Goalkeeper is Krul.....but yes have three super cheap subs but dead certs for returns!

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  30. ejpt123
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 4 months ago

    Vorm (Lindergaard)
    Kompany NTaylor Jones (de laet, kelly)
    Silva, Nani, Sess, Walters, Bale
    Sturridge, RVP (Yak)

    Any changes for my wc team?

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