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Monday Dugout Discussion

16 January 2012 3783 comments
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League leaders Manchester City travel to the DW Stadium tonight, looking to put breathing space between themselves and their city rivals. The Dugout Discussion chatroom opens in anticipation of the conclusion of Gameweek 21.

Both team sheets have been handed in, and here is how they line-up on this horribly cold Monday night…

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Stam, Alcaraz, Caldwell, Figueroa, McArthur, McCarthy, Gomez, Crusat, Rodallega, Moses.

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Savic, Lescott, Clichy, Milner, Barry, Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Dzeko.

Roberto Martinez continues with Albert Crusat, who manages to shake off a slight back injury to start tonight. James McArthur begins for only the third time in the league this season, replacing Mohamed Diame who is unavailable thanks to the African Cup of Nations.

Manchester City are forced to partner Jolean Lescott and Stefan Savic at centre-back once more, despite a very ropey performance in their defeat to United last weekend. Elsewhere, David Silva is restored to the starting line-up, Sergio Aguero partners Edin Dzeko up front, and Pablo Zabaleta replaces Micah Richards.

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  1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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    Any chance Moses gets a bonus...for trying his best?

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    1. Marco Del Wattsio
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      Hope so lol

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    2. Scratch
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      For Victor "cul-de-sac" Moses? Good luck!

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  2. Cooking For Eric
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    evening guys,

    Justa little help if you wouldn't mind.

    If Ive already used two transfers this week (for -4 pt hit).

    if I use my Wildcard after ive made the transfers what will happen??

    Thanking you!

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    1. Silva is Gold.
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      You will not lose the points.

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      1. Cooking For Eric
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        thanks very much!

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    2. The Gambler.
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      No deduction will take place - you are good to WC!

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      1. Egg noodle
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        copyright issues with your avatar there 😆

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        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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          told you that you wouldn't see that tenner again

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
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            do you have a regular problem with people not listening to you?

            No-one likes a "told you so".

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  3. Fancy Feet
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    A suggestion for the scouts, a nice article would be some brief highlights for what our players are doing in the ACON. It is probably already thought of so if so, carry on. 🙂

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      our players?

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      1. andy85wsm
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        i.e the ones from the Prem, or the ones that have been popular picks in FPL

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        1. Fancy Feet
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          this

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    2. Mull
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      Since we're on the topic of types of article. I have seen mentioned a 'Frisking the forums' idea which I think would be fantastic.

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      1. Fancy Feet
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        how would that work?

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        1. Mull
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          Someone goes on to the forums and sees if any player will be rested/dropped for that week, what line up the ITK's predict etc.

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
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            13 years, 11 months ago

            Yep, SOMEONE must have known Richards picked up a hamstring injury in training. Unless, of course, he did it on Saturday when it would've been too late to make any changes.

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  4. Mattymo23
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    A) Ramires

    B) Walters

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    1. Hiphopopotamus
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      • 15 Years
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      B

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    2. 4vets
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      Sess.

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  5. Twisted Saltergater
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    +1 Sir P and his technical articles are a big attraction to this site for me.

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
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      oops, reply fail.

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  6. Syd.
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    Have they changed the rules again?

    How that was not a red card is beyond me....

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    1. Egg noodle
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      i lol'd so hard 😆

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    2. andy85wsm
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      Handball = yellow card

      Clear goalscoring opportunity = red

      It was the former.

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      1. Syd.
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        Fail

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        1. andy85wsm
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          I don't really see where I have failed. It wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity, it was on the half way line.

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    3. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      Doubt one could say that was a clear goal scoring opportunity, which it needs to be in order to merit a red.

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      1. Syd.
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        Define a clear goal scoring opportunity...

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        1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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          That is at the ref's discretion and imo he made the right call

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        2. andy85wsm
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          One where you actually have control of the ball, Aguero hadn't even touched it, and one where you don't have to run half of the pitch.

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
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            Agree with this. It could've been Heskey in Aguero's position... by no means a clear goal scoring opportunity.

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          2. Syd.
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            If the defender hadn't handled it Aguero would have been clean through on goal with clear goal scoring opportunity....

            He was also the last man with no covering defenders...

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  7. Henry Hill
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    Mancini has no class, Gerrard was right about the hypocrite.

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    1. halnone
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      Dalglish is just as bad.

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    2. Syd.
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      Gerrard has a lot of class 😕

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      1. chinmusic
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        A jury of 12 Scousers thought so

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        1. Syd.
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          All related to each other too 😆

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    3. Alex Hunter
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      +1 any competitive player would do the same for their team.

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  8. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    repost

    ok folks any suggestions for this lot for next week

    Friedel Vorm

    BAE, Brown, McAuley, Raylor, Jones

    Silva, Nani, Bale, Donovan, Tiote

    Odem, RvP, Sturridge

    1 FT 0.9 in bank. Should i make a transfer or save it and take 2 1 week punts next week?

    Cheers guys

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    1. Mattymo23
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      jones for city defender

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  9. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    Ok Did sturridge come off the bench. Because my opponent got dyer on the bench?

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    1. CarelessGenius©
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      No. That one cost me too.

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    2. Back on the horse
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      hover your mouse over sturridge's big fat zero

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  10. CarelessGenius©
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    With Cahill's shirt change from Bolton to Chelski, do I now assume some guys now have 4 Chelski players in their team....???

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    1. Woga
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      yes, but next transfer has to reduce chelsea players by one

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      1. CarelessGenius©
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        Is that so? That's a bit harsh if they have to use their sub to do so, or do they get a freebie?

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        1. kennethrhcp
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          no freebie, must use one of their transfers

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        2. Twisted Saltergater
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          They don't have to. But if they choose to make a transfer then they must go back to 3 Chelsea players.

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    2. andy85wsm
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      It's possible yes.

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    3. Alex Hunter
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      ya, they will be forced to drop one. it looks as though that change has already been updated.

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    4. moment
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      Not sure how many people have 3 Chelsea anyway... I don't, and I'm a Chelsea fan... Have bought Cahill though...

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  11. Woga
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    cannot believe bringing in dzeco on wc may have saved my staying in cup, rest of wc team were crap

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    1. Fratboy
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      Well done! Great punt that!

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  12. Fancy Feet
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    Come on FPL update this sheeeeeeeet let me see Dyer come on for Sturridge 🙂

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    1. Woga
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      nice, had so many players on bench this season that outscored first 11, i.e. Walters , Krul ( when saving peno) simpson so many times, even had bogdan this week but thankfully Krul jus about outscored him, but syill had simpson on bench

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    2. kennethrhcp
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      13 years, 11 months ago

      i got lucky off the bench aswell this week, donovan & sinclair both coming on 🙂

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  13. dillydally1982
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    Is it worth me bringing in Dempsey for Nani for a 4 point hit? Was planning on bringing Dempsey in for GWK24, but thinking about bringing it forward. Although I have a slight feeling Nani could have a field day against an Arsenal with no full backs. What do people think?

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    1. Woga
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      not this week

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      1. super zlatan
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        Not for a hit

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    2. No1Joker
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      I've already done the move. If I'd had Valencia, I wouldn't have made the change.

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  14. threeputt
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    one of these weeks i'll make a correct (c) pick again, sob 🙁

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  15. Bøwstring The Carp
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    My guess at BPS for City game: Dzeko 3, Silva 2, Lescott 1.

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
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      I don't think Silva will get any... he had a few shots off target. Probably Dzeko 3, Clichy 2, Lescott 1

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  16. ChickenDevil
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    Through in pp cup by skin of my teeth again, out of fpl cup though

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    1. Fratboy
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      Nice! All about the PP Cup, congrats 🙂

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      1. ChickenDevil
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        Cheers mate

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  17. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    anyone considering a wc team with no Silva or Aguero?

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    1. kennethrhcp
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      not @ the moment but wc could change

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    2. Alex Hunter
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      no, silva is a season keeper, especially if you've had him all along - unless you have zero intention of buying him back.

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    3. DV8R
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      13 years, 11 months ago

      Mine had Aguero over Rooney and kind of regretting it now...

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    4. Hiphopopotamus
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      I did just that. Then Yak got banned so i'm thinking of putting Aguero in tonight.

      I take it you've now been put of Aguero?

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I was contemplating no Aguero before tonight, it hasn't helped changed my mind. I had contemplated no Silva but I've had him since GW1 and though he may not set the world on fire points wise he has more consistency.

        My major dilemma is Nani or Valencia. My main rival has Valencia and we've already got similar teams, I have Nani, but losing him would allow me Dempsey over Etherington.

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  18. Silva is Gold.
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    Is it mental to play Mclean over Bale?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      el o el

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    2. Alex Hunter
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      probably.

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    3. Hay Number 2
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      yep

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    4. Bøwstring The Carp
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      Who knows, sure look at this week, putting Dyer in over Aguero would've resulted in a hell of a lot more points, and Swansea played Arsenal. So who knows? More than likely Bale will score more but there's always the possibility McClean could get a nice haul

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  19. CatMac
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    No Doosra or 4vets tonight then?

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    1. super zlatan
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      Theres me!

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      1. CatMac
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        Good to see you SuperZ, I was just wondering where the rest of the usual night time crowd were and those 2 usually have pretty long posts by now 😀

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        1. super zlatan
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          Using ur wc Catmac? Think I am also.

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          1. CatMac
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            Yep SuperZ, using it this week. Nearly got my team sorted, well I thought until Aguero's rather dismal performance tonight. Might need to re-jig now.

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  20. Hay Number 2
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    Right....why was Richards dropped?

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    1. Mílanista
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      Hamstring injury apparently.

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      1. Hay Number 2
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        long term or is it not yet known?

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      2. Hiphopopotamus
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        Any suggestion how long he's out for?

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        1. Mílanista
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          He may be back by the weekend.

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        2. mr messi
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          Should be ok for next game.

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        3. J0E
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          • 16 Years
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          Mancini says its minor and should be back for next game. See bbc coverage 19: 38 for quote.

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
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            +1 Mancini said it twice. Once before the game, once after. Captain in Kompany's absence.. think he's a regular when fit.

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  21. Mílanista
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    I'm taking Nani out for Dempsey. Just seeking reassurance that this is a good move before I press the button.

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      Yeah I think so...good fixtures and at least he gives it a go ever week unlike mix bag nani 😉

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    2. Henry Hill
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      Nani has been poor recently but will be up against Djorou this weekend so could do well. Dempsey did nothing against 10 man Blackburn without their best defender

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  22. FORCA INTER
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    only 56pts this week 🙁

    oh well at least rooneys assists stays so i can't complain 2 much

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    1. Johnny Unitas
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      13 years, 11 months ago

      I would say scoring 56 points any week is pretty good.

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      1. Hotrod
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        53 for me and I'm delighted with it. Only sour poitn was Yak's brain fart

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        1. Hotrod
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          *point (brain fart for me)

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    2. 4vets
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      56pts is good for you! 😉

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      56 is a good score for this week

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    4. DV8R
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      One better than me... Captain let me down. Disappointing post-WC score

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    5. Fratboy
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      How is that a bad score? Some people on here are SO greedy.

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    6. donners
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      LOL, it's your 3rd best GW of the season. Hard man to please?

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  23. Johnny Unitas
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    Dyer/Simpson/R.Taylor et al coming in on auto subs for Sturridge and Richards etc is really going to f*ck with the average, a nice big green arrow and 56 (less 4) may end up being a red!

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      +1

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    2. 4vets
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      If anyone had Somps and Raylor on their bench they must have been mad. Dter was bench #2 for me so I gave the glory that is Baines coming on for me. hey ho... there's always next week 🙂

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      1. 4vets
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        *ignore my useless typos 😳

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        1. Hay Number 2
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          It's ok...ignore my +1.

          Reply fail 😉

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  24. is_there_nanibody_out_there
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    Rooney 2 assists or 1, if 2 i lose h2h by 1 point

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    1. Hotrod
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      Looks like he's keeping both unless they're reviewing it?

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      ouch

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    3. andy85wsm
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      He's keeping both.

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  25. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
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    Dzeko 3, Silva 2, Clichy 1

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    1. Optimus.
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      that would be nice would give me 67 for the gw

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    2. andy85wsm
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      Hope you're right!

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    3. Woga
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      i hope you are right AB need that result so much

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    4. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
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      * dzeko 3, silva 2 zabaleta 1
      it turns out clichy lost all 4 of his tackles

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      1. chinmusic
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        Didn't Silva have some off target shots though? I'm clutching at straws here.

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        1. applebonkers
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          3 shots blocked, none off target

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      2. Twisted Saltergater
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        That can't be right, AB. Silva had 3 shots off target, I think. Didn't think assists were weighted that heavily in the PPI?

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  26. got2bmyyear
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    just starting to think ideas for wildcard, who do people consider essential/must haves for the next few weeks?

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    1. Hotrod
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      Sess, Huth, Dempsey

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      1. got2bmyyear
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        thanks
        will help in my quest

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    2. An Púca
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      crouch,dempsey,man city x 3,stoke defenders...all good fixtures

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    3. Woga
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      next 2 game weeks need, Pool + Chelsea defense and attacking.

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  27. The butts
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    will yak price drop or is price protected when he is red flagged???

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  28. Woga
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    so Mancini's interview, " i hope Dzeko will score again v spurs" looks like my wc Dzeko in was a great buy, he will start again

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    1. Bouncebackability
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      He scored a lot against them at WHL, maybe something to do with it.

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  29. WhiteHartLane
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts on my WC team?

    T. Krul, M. Vorm
    G. Cahill, M. Richards, J. Enrique, D. Simpson, N. Taylor
    D. Silva, G. Bale, C. Dempsey, S. Sessegnon, V. Moses
    F. Torres, W. Rooney, S. Fletcher

    Cahill, Torres and Dempsey are my biggest question marks. Torres looked bloody good against Sunderland though and I have a feeling he may just be coming back into some form.

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  30. 4-4-who?
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    Delighted I went for Rooney over Aguero, but not that I chose Gerrard instead of Silva - question is do I keep him?!

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      personally it's a gamble not worth taking having Gerrard. more of a punt than a good option.

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      1. Woga
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        my cpt next game week

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