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9 July 2012 1212 comments
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Tottenham’s restructuring program under new head coach Andre Villas-Boas shows no signs of abating, with yesterday’s announcement that Ajax skipper Jan Vertonghen will join the north London outfit this week, subject to a medical.

The centre-half is the second new arrival in the past few days, following the acquisition of Gylfi Sigurdsson, and will bolster a backline that has already lost Ryan Nelsen and is likely to see Ledley King retire in the close season. A long-term target of the club, Vertonghen was linked with a move to White Hart Lane under the Harry Redknapp regime but the club’s interest continued after the departure of their former manager – the Belgian is expected to be crucial to the first-team cause next term and revealed he is happy to finally seal the move after months of speculation:

I am very relieved. It went on for a long time, but I’m glad I’m a Tottenham player right now and I’m looking forward to playing for the club. I am 25 years old now and I feel ready to play in the Premier League. I have heard a lot of good stories from my Belgium team-mates. I think I’m ready.

The Statistics

Initially, Vertonghen spent time with VK Tielrode and Germinal Beerschot in his native country before joining the Ajax youth academy as a 16-year-old in 2003. Acquired as a defensive midfielder, the 6 foot 2 inch Belgian was shifted into the back-four and, while his natural position is left-sided centre-half, he is versatile enough to slot in at left-back should the need require.

Vertonghen made his debut for the Amsterdam outfit in the 2006 campaign, turning out on a couple of occasions before being sent out on loan to Eredivisie strugglers RKC Waalwijk, where he made 12 appearances and grabbed three goals. Returning to his parent club the following season, Vertonghen established himself as a regular first-team fixture and played under the likes of Marco Van Basten, Martin Jol and Franck De Boer over his time at the Dutch outfit.

A keen eye for goal and set-piece ability saw the Belgian produce impressive attacking returns at Ajax. Over a total of 155 league appearances he netted 26 times and provided nine assists, with the 2011/12 his most eye-catching to date; Vertonghen was voted Dutch Player of the Year as his eight goals helped De Boer’s side to the Eredivisie title.

The Prospects

It’s difficult to ascertain just how much the arrival of Villas-Boas will affect Spurs’ prospects in the season ahead. The north London outfit racked up 14 clean sheets in Redknapp’s final campaign in charge but the high defensive line favoured by the new man in charge will have many Fantasy managers thinking twice over investing in their backline.

Chelsea’s failure to adapt to Villas-Boas’ demanding pressing game saw them picked off on the counter on a consistent basis last time round – the Blues returned just seven clean sheets over his 26 games in charge but Spurs are determined to bring in younger, more dynamic players in order to implement the new manager’s game plan. Vertonghen and the likes of Younes Kaboul and Steven Caulker won’t struggle for pace, while the speed of Kyle Walker on the right will be a valuable asset to the new system, suggesting their defence may find it a little better than John Terry and co to adapt to Villas-Boas’ philosophy.

In addition to his goal contribution, Vertonghen is what you would expect of an Ajax academy graduate. A superb reader of the game, he is calm on the ball with outstanding distribution from the back, which is likely to kick-start quick counter attacks as Spurs look to break at speed – a crucial element of the philosophy expected under Villas-Boas. The centre-half’s strong, all-round game is set to see him priced highly across the Fantasy games next term – a valuation of 6.0 – 6.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) can be expected.

Certainly, Spurs’ favourable opening schedule affords Vertonghen a chance to demonstrate his capabilities. While a trip to Newcastle in Gameweek 1 seems tricky, the following four matches (WBA, NOR, rdg, QPR) look superb and are likely to see substantial Fantasy investment come Tottenham’s way. The Belgian’s contribution at both ends of the pitch suggests he could be a beneficiary of the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index and, providing Villas-Boas can replicate his impact at Porto as opposed to Stamford Bridge, Vertonghen could very well prove to be a strong value option for the season ahead.

Further Reference

Jan Vertonghen Wikipedia
Jan Vertonghen Statistics
Jan Vertonghen YouTube

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  1. Elniñorules
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    Has Andre-Villas Boas been sacked yet?

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    1. FORCA INTER
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      he will show how to finissh above chelsa this season

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      1. Elniñorules
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        C'mon AVB show us how to finish above the title winners then!

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        1. FORCA INTER
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          wich title 😉 ?

          though we talk about prem league mate

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    2. Mílanista
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      Aatish provides the new post link but is nowhere to be seen at the top of the page...

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      1. Elniñorules
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        Probably too busy hitting F5 on the FPL site now 😉

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      Bitter or what ElNino? Let it go, it doesn't become you.

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  2. Drip Doctor
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    He's in my team. Similar to Kaboul though no?

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    1. Scroobius Mac
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      Think he'll score more goals than Kaboul.

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    2. FORCA INTER
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      simmilar to Vermalen i would say

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  3. King Nemanja
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    Following on from yesterday’s defensive analysis of last season, here is the attacking findings.

    Using each team’s average goals scored at home and away, and average goals conceded both home and away, I have come up with figures to help me rank each team in order of amounts of goals scored, over the first 6 gameweeks. For the promoted teams, I have used the average of all 3 promoted teams, over the past 3 seasons.

    Using Arsenal as example, they scored 2.053 goals at home on average, while their gameweek 1 opponents Sunderland, conceded 1.526 goals away from home on average. Adding these two together and dividing by 2 gives the expected amount of goals that Arsenal will score (roughly 1.8). As you may remember, Arsenal scored 2 goals at home to Sunderland last season, to it isn’t too inaccurate. I also took the two figures and multiplied them, and ranked each team from highest to lowest. Combining these two results gave a good outline of teams that can be expected to score well.

    I have done this for all 20 teams and their first 6 games to give us an indication of which teams should be looking good to score plenty of goals early on. Remember this is based on stats from last season, we all know things are never the same 2 seasons in a row, with new managers and players etc. Anyway, here is the list of teams ranked, with number 1 being the team predicted to score the most goals and so on..

    1 Man City
    2 Spurs
    3 Chelsea
    4 Man United
    5 Arsenal
    - Norwich
    7 Newcastle
    8 Sunderland
    9 Fulham
    10 Swansea
    11 West Brom
    - Everton
    13 West Ham
    14 QPR
    - Aston Villa
    16 Liverpool
    17 Stoke
    18 Wigan
    19 Reading
    20 Southampton

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    1. Elniñorules
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      All Hail the King!

      One question - Does this take into account the fixtures tho or is it purely based on past seasons stats?

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      1. Blando
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        "all 20 teams and their first 6 games"It takes fixtures into account.

        Nice work King N.

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        1. Elniñorules
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          "Using each team’s average goals scored at home and away, and average goals conceded both home and away, I have come up with figures to help me rank each team in order of amounts of goals scored, over the first 6 gameweeks."

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          1. Blando
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            While that does leave it open to interpretation, the example and next statement clarified it for me.

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      2. King Nemanja
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        Fixtures taken into account too, both opposition and if it is a home or away game.

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        1. Elniñorules
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          Cheers mate.

          Keep 'em coming!

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          1. King Nemanja
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            Holidays in a couple of days, so won't be around for a couple weeks.

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  4. Conrad.
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    LOL! QPR's "announcement" was JSP signing for 2 years...hilarious.

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    1. Elniñorules
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      Big news for the biggest continent of the world.

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    2. Conrad.
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      yea, but we've known that news for a couple days now...was expecting the news to be something that no one knew yet.

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    3. LOCO ABREU
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      who is JSP?

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      1. Conrad.
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        Ji Sung Park

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      2. King Nemanja
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        Ji Sung Park

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  5. accountforstuff
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    I'm going to be annoying and post this here also (as doubt people will continue to read the old thread)- sorry in advance.

    I’m new to FPL but was just wondering (as you guys are experts)…

    How much do prices change over what time period (e.g. is it £.5m in 1-2 weeks or £.5m across whole season, injuries aside)- do these prices only change once season starts or do they change between now and then? Can you profit from buys/ sells before season starts?

    Is it possible to stock up on pre-season players which are undervalued and likely to increase in value (e.g. buy Giroud this week and hold him until the RVP situation plays out in hope arsenal lose him and don’t sign anyone else, or a fringe player who may step in if player doesn’t fully recover from injury)

    Also, how how do new players get added/ removed? Do new players often come in then see their price rise/ fall massively or are the FPL people pretty spot on.

    Thanks for any response/ help =)

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    1. Mílanista
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      Transfers in/out do not count towards price changes until the season starts. See FISO CTC and totalfpl once the season is underway for expected price changes. There is a help section on FISO which can answer all your questions now.

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    2. Reckoner.
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      A price rise or fall is very rarely more that 0.1m a Game week. There will be some double price rises/falls in the season (so 0.2m) but I don't think I've ever seen more than a 0.2m rise in one Game week.

      As for over the season some players will stay the same throughout others will rise or fall as much as around 1-1.5m I think not much more and there will only be a few that will have such high rises/falls.

      Price rises don't start till the season starts so no you can't increase you value by transferring in and out before. This is however something you can do when using your Wild Card. Play your WC as soon as the game week before has started and then get in all the performers from that GW in hoping to catch some price rises then ship them out before the start of the next GW to get your real team in. However for this to work you need double+ price rises as you only gain 50% of their increased values.

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      1. Mílanista
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        Your first point isn't true, there were several triple risers last season and after a while we established that there was a cap so players couldn't rise 4 times in a GW. Double rises are quite common for an in form player or one that just had a particularly good week.

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        1. Reckoner.
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          As I said "I don't think I've ever seen more than a 0.2m rise in one Game week" don't usually pay too much attention to price rises as I find if your putting enough time into your team they take care of themselves.

          So due to me not paying enough attention to them I don't think I have seen one 😀

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          1. Mílanista
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            Can't argue with that 😀

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    3. Frazek
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      Depends, Accounts. Good players scoring well regularly can increase £1-£1.2m over a season (David Silva last year for eg). It's done on net transfers in (NTI), prices rise 0.1m when NTI reach the required limit with a GW. To go up a second £0.1m, NTI must go you twice the original limit, and so on, which is why it is very difficult to on up more than £0.3m tops in a single GW.

      But it is possible to 'trade' players and boost your cash coffers, although this is not always necessarily easy. More detail on NTI can be found at Fiso's 'Crack the code'.

      http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php

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    4. accountforstuff
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      Thanks for all your responses, very useful

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  6. Lucky Luke
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    i-Pad 2 – some advice required please.

    I’m thinking of buying one, but are there any issues with using the i-Pad to access and use the FPL site?

    I’m totally ignorant when it comes to computers, and have had issues with the FPL website when using an Android phone. Therefore, I’m keen to know if there are any issues with the FPL site when using Apple products.

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    1. QPR Lad 92
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      Nope they work fine with the FPL site 😀

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      1. Tommytour
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        Also thinking of getting one.

        Is it annoying typing on here (FFS) compared to a laptop?

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        1. QPR Lad 92
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          Well not really, once you get used to the touch pad it's fine. Sometimes mistakes are made because it's really touch sensitive.

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    2. roscola
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      On the desktop website you hover over the team selection tab and it opens a little menu of "latest points" and "next gameweek". On the iPad you can't open that little menu because there is no such thing as a hover-over on touchscreens so it just opens whichever is default at the time. Slightly annoying but not a killer.

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    3. Mílanista
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      So your decision on buying an iPad depends on FPL compatibility, good lad 😀

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    4. Bobbydhino - ⚒ Saint Slav…
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      I use the site all the time from my iPad2, like now for instance 🙂 I am a member also and navigate around there with ease also.

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  7. PL Ball
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    http://www.qpr.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10373~2835761,00.html

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    1. The Light Knight
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      The dreaded "project" word has been said

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  8. Mílanista
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    GW2 transfer: Chelsea defender to Verty

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    1. Conrad.
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      tru dat.

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    2. Blando
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      Seems the logical choice.

      Therefore it will almost certainly not happen 🙂

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    3. Mak_Gold
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      I will probably have him from the start.

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    4. Tommytour
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      Not Torres > Rooney?

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      1. Mílanista
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        That seems more important actually. GW3 transfer for Verty then 🙂

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        1. The Finnisher
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          Just do a 4 pointer 🙂

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          1. Mílanista
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            I spent 72 points on transfers last season. Planning a hit for GW2 is not going to help me cut down!

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            1. The Finnisher
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              You won't plan it, but you better be prepared after Vertonghen scores a brace and Torres lets us all down again.

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    5. Kings of Lyon ★
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      GW2

      4 point hit - Torres & Terry - Ade & Vertoghen

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      1. Frazek
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        Ade?

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        1. Kings of Lyon ★
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          Aye thinks hes bk at spurs

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      2. Tommytour
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        Would rather Terry and 4 points and transfer GW3

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  9. SouthCoastSaint
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    http://fantasyfootballandsaints.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/goalkeepers-analysis-and-potential.html

    Saints FPL analysis starting with Goalkeepers.

    (won't make a habit of reposting the same old guff, just trying to get it out there, ta!)

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    1. heco87
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      Good article cheers - looking forward to your opinions on Lallana & Lambert.

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      1. blue cheese
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        +1. Keep 'em coming!

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    2. Elniñorules
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      Read it on the last post - interesting read! You've been a Saints fan for a while, I take it? 🙂

      For the next time, think it's worth copy-pasting your effort on here. Long posts are difficult to miss and precious ones like these shouldn't go missing in space.

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      1. SouthCoastSaint
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        Grand I'll consider that with the future articles thanks

        Fan since the good ol days of 1994.

        I was only 5 though

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    3. The Finnisher
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      Cheers.

      What do you reckon of Lambert? Holt2.0?

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      1. SouthCoastSaint
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        Easy comparison to make given their physical build and aerial ability but Lambert has so much more to offer. He brings other players into the game.

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        1. The Finnisher
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          Yeah I admittedly haven't watched more than a handful of games from him.
          You reckon he will be worth a punt in FPL? Considering he will be cheap given Holt and Graham were 5.0 from memory.

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          1. SouthCoastSaint
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            He is nailed on in my team. Given the plethora of in form strikers this season he may turn out to be a big diferential.

            Penalty and free kick duties nailed on. Assist machine.

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            1. The Finnisher
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              I think I will have some of that, even given the early fixtures (mainly United (H) and City (A) other than that they look good from an attacking p.o.v
              Will look nice along side Rooney and Aguero 🙂

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    4. Bobbydhino - ⚒ Saint Slav…
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      Thank you. I have bookmarked the site.

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  10. Kingston
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    Hang on a minute. So Anton Ferdinand didn't actually hear John Terry use any racist term. He looked at you tube footage after the game to come to that decision. What a flimsy case if that's all they've got to base it on. I know Terry is not the most likeable of characters but i'm willing to bet he doesn't get found guilty if nobody heard anything. After all he literally shouts whatever he said over Ashley Coles shoulder

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    1. Fray Bentos
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      It does seem like a racism case in a bit of a grey area – or should I say its not exactly black and white. I thank you

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  11. China Mag
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    14 years, 3 days ago

    Does anyone know how often the scouts update the ratings for each team on the ticker? I seem to remember that they used stats for the three relegated teams last season for the three promoted teams. Swansea could also possibly have a major downgrade. i'm hoping that they will update them before GW4 as my rotation spreadsheet would be much more useful with updated stats and i'm leaning towards an early WC.

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    1. Wilfried Bony M
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      Wanna post your rotation spreadsheet for us?

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      1. China Mag
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        I will make it available to anyone who wants it once it is completed. But i'm not sure how useful it is because all of the strongest rotations include Swansea, and i'm worried that there defence won't be nearly as strong as last year. I think it will be more useful for a GW3-4 WC, once we have had a look at the defences in the first few games.

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        1. Wilfried Bony M
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          Ah I see. Fair enough, Swansea will still be fairly solid in defense I reckon, at home anyway. They still have Vorm and Ashley Williams as far as I know

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  12. CRUSHER
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    Absolute legend, I'll be getting him in.

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    1. The Light Knight
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      +1

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  13. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
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    Hopefully he's cheaper than Walker.

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  14. applebonkers
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    belgian agger, look forward to watching him more often

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    1. Elniñorules
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      what a fine change. you're finally not talking about a chelsea defender!

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    2. Funkyav
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      does he get injured alot and have jail tats then?

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  15. The Finnisher
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    Vorm
    Vidic Vertonghen Vermaelen

    Very Nice.

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    1. FORCA INTER
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      and very expesive 🙁

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    2. Fray Bentos
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      very expensive

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      1. The Finnisher
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        Yep, I won't be going for it personally.
        Might have two of the defenders.
        And maybe Vorm (rotate with Federici) if FPL are kind.

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        1. COMH
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          Vermaelen all day long for you again this season?

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          1. The Finnisher
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            Not planning on starting with him as I think Vertonghen will be cheaper and offer more, and Vidic will be a similar price.
            But I'll no doubt have him for an extended run at some point 🙂

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    3. Mílanista
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      Don't forget Valencia

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    4. Smarty Pants
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      Van der Vaart Van Persie... and Vlad as manager
      The "V Team" can do well this season.

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      1. The Finnisher
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        Valencia

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        1. The Finnisher
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          Victor? 🙂

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    5. COMH
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      V V V Very nice indeed.

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    6. Scroobius Mac
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      Vorm
      Vidic Vertonghen Vermaelen
      Van der Vaart Valencia
      Van Persie

      Any more?

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      1. blue cheese
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        Vaughan, Vokes, Vuckic, Vela?

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        1. Smarty Pants
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          Vaz Te 🙂

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      2. The Finnisher
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        V.Moses 😉

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        1. blue cheese
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          V.Kompany?

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      3. Mílanista
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        Vaz Te, Van Aarnholt

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      4. blue cheese
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        Vellios

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      5. Blando
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        I sense a new mini-league concept coming on: Assign a letter and only have those players for the season.

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        1. blue cheese
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          Not bad!

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  16. COMH
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    First choice CB pairing for Spurs?

    Vertonghen + Dawson or Kaboul?

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    1. The Light Knight
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      Kaboul over Dawson

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    2. The Finnisher
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      Kaboul for sure I reckon

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    3. King Nemanja
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      Kaboul

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    4. FORCA INTER
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      Carhvalo + Vetonghen 😉

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    5. Frazek
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      I suspect Kaboul, injuries/fitness permitting.

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    6. Scroobius Mac
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      Vert > Kaboul > Caulker > Dawson

      IMO.

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    7. applebonkers
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      kaboul rcb, vertonghen lcb. if anything happens to BAE then vertonghen lb with dawson coming in, if anything happens to walker kaboul rb with dawson coming in

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    8. AP
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      Caulker + Vertonghen hopefully.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        +1

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      2. Tim Canterbury
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        Id like to see that. Would be a solid partnership I think

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    9. Round and Round
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      Disagree with all the replies here. It seems one season is enough to make everyone forget Dawson's quality. He will most definately be ahead of Kaboul and is one of the best defenders in the league. He would have pushed Cahill and Lescott for first choice for England if he was fit

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      1. Funkyav
        • 17 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        At the end of the day it only matters what AVB thinks. Who knows who he will prefer?

        I do agree that people on here have short memories. Normally when an English player is injured they becoem better not worse!

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  17. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    what do you recon about following transfers?

    Modric goes to Real / Chelsa wich gave Spurs money to buy Adebayour

    when Adebayour go to Spurs City will have 1 empy atacking spot and they will sign RVP

    when they get RVP Dzeko will go in Milan

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    1. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Or, Spurs keep Moddy, buy Damiao instead of Ade leaving him in limbo, and RvP goes to the Old Lady. Dzeko sits on the bench and wonders what became of a promising career. 🙂

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  18. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    Off-topic..
    Is The Avengers any good? Have it on a hard-drive wondering if I should watch it now or not..

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      I find all comic movies a let down after all the hype apart from the new Batman series. Probably worth watching it just to see it but I wouldn't expect much.

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    2. Funkyav
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      I have heard its awful. but i guess it depends what you are into?

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    3. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      "A quirky spy show of the adventures of an eccentricly suave British agent and his predominately female partners"

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    4. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Its' brill.

      Banter between the characters is better than the action

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    5. BMox81
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Well worth a watch IMO.

      Saw Spidey yesterday at IMAX which was good and back again in a couple of weeks for Dark Knight Rises.

      Good time to be a comic book fan.

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    6. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Alright thanks for the replies - I'm gonna give it a watch as I have nothing to do at the moment anyway.

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    7. My name is an echo
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      I dont like most of the comic films except Batman obviously. I was very surprised with Avengers - very enjoyable and decent story

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  19. COMH
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    Surely Caulker will want to be back at Swansea playing week in week out if he is going further down the pecking order every week?

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    1. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      They will play plenty of games over the season so he should get a fair share of game time through rotation

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Good point. Plenty fixtures with the Europa Cup also.

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  20. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    is anyone else's ticker failing to load? trying to sift through the fixtures...

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    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 19 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      No reports of problems. Loading fine for us. Drop me a line at support@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk and we'll look into it for you.

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      1. Tim Canterbury
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        its alright it must be my laptop. its working on my iphone

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    1. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      City's burgundy kit is good as well!

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Yeah that's nice too. Quite like their home one actually.

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  21. Open Controls
    1. Holy See
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Some severe slashing so tis. Maybe he needs a pep talk.

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Or a change of scene.

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    2. Smarty Pants
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Several reliable Russian sources reported that the signed contract between Mancini and the Russian Football Association actually exists. All referring to their 'reliable sources' within the Russian Football Association. Even an annual compensation of 7.3 million euros is being cited. Hmmm...

      Mancini is known to have friends among Russian football authorities. Actually, they could have created this situation to increase the wage that Mancini could negotiate off City and to cut the wage that Russia would pay to their new coach. If this plan fails, then Mancini is the new coach with a huge wage, still not bad. Just a thought...

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Interesting!

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  22. J0E
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    A few question marks over some key players for the start of the season thanks t the Olympics. Here's a list of those so far I've found in the Olympic squads...feel free to add others. Mata and De Gea stand out as excellent prospect that are likely to miss the first PL game, possibly first two games. Some cheap squad fodder could also be effected.

    Brazil
    Rafael (Manchester United)
    Sandro (Tottenham)

    Spain
    Mata Chelsea
    De Gea Man Utd

    GB
    Micah Richards
    Ryan gigs
    Craig Bellamy
    Daniel Sturridge
    Ryan Betrand
    Aaron Ramsey
    Tom Cleverley

    Uruguay
    Suarez

    Senegal
    Magaye Gueye Everton

    South Korea
    Park - Arsenal

    New Zealand
    Nelson - QPR

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      1. J0E
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        cheers... looks like man utd's squad will be a little lighter at the start of the season.

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        1. blue cheese
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          We'll manage! 😉

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          1. J0E
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            Indeed, I was careful to say squad not first team.

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            1. Frazek
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 2 days ago

              Missed Coates (LIV), says I, picking holes.

              Thanks Jonts.

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    1. JELLYFISH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Really helpful Jonty, thanks. I was setting my sites on Rafael, so a re-think needed on that one.

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      1. J0E
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Mata and De Gea really stand out.

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    2. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Can't see De Gea not starting their first league game, probably the same with most of them. Mata is a worry though given their DGW.

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      1. J0E
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        All the talk is that De Gea will be Spain's Olympics goalkeeper and they are a team that could win it...in fact are very likely to reach the final. Puts a big question mark over him starting the season.

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        1. little_wizard123
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          I'm sure he'll be fine to play a week later though, as a keeper. Utd ensured he was number 1 and they'll prefer to have the stability of a number 1 unlike at the start of last season.

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    3. COMH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Do you think De Gea will be fine to start for United being a keeper and all that? 1 week between the games. Although Fergie could be likely to start with players who have been in and around the club over pre season.

      Is Lindegaard going to be fit?

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    4. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Not convinced that De Gea will need resting but it will give Fergie the chance to play Anders I suppose

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      1. J0E
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        I'm not sure it's rest its more about him missing the pre season. As the Count suggests Lindegaard is a possible starter for the season. Very short term punt though.

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    5. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Thanks Jonty - bookmarked.

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    6. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      I'm sure Swansea have at least one player committed, can't remember who.

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Sinclair, N.Taylor and Allen.

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      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Joe Allen, I think.

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      3. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Allen, Taylor and Sinclair.

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    7. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Honduras - Figueroa (Wigan)

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  23. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    Afternoon.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Afternoon co-champion

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        What an idiot i am. Tommy tells me that we would have won comfortably as well if i've have just pressed 'confirm' in time!!!

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        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          😆

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      2. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        *cough FFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIXXXXXXX!!!! *cough

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        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          How?

          Neither UEFA nor Italian football is corrupt 😉

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        2. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          Take comfort in the fact that you lost to the eventual winners 😉

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          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            Massive comfort, cheers 🙄
            🙂

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    2. blue cheese
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Afternoon, Parm!

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  24. Efan Ekoku Pops
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    Verty's goalscoring record for Ajax is fantastic. He even scores when he doesn't even mean to:
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/jPk-wmqP5ec

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      I remember hearing about that. What happened afterwards? Did they let the other team score?

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      1. CRUSHER
        • 17 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        It was a cup game. Vertonghen playd for Ajax 2, the youth team, against a team from the 2nd league. They did let the other team score, to make it 3-1.

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        1. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          That was good of them. Would they have done it though if it had been a title decider and that had made it 1-0 in injury time. 😉

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          1. CRUSHER
            • 17 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            When Vertonghen was out on loan at RKC, he not only played against Ajax, he scored to make it 2-2. Ajax lost the title that year, not on points, but on goal difference. He does whatever is needed for a win....

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            1. The Light Knight
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 2 days ago

              Fair play to the man. I had wanted him at United at Christmas when we really needed a defender. I can see him being great for Spurs

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      If this sort of thing happened it would be hilarious from an FPL perspective.

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      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        DIE VERTONGHEN DIE!!! and such

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      2. little_wizard123
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Guaranteed to have doubled up on their defenders though.

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    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      That's in the Eredivisie, Kuyt scored 40 goals in 1 season at Feyenoord before moving to Liverpool.

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      1. Efan Ekoku Pops
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Still not bad, mind. Plus, it's more than Vermaelen scored at Ajax.

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    4. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      😆

      Was he trying to pass to the ball back to the keeper?

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      1. ★FC Borecelona★
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        *Was he trying to pass the back to the keeper?

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          Take 3.

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          1. ★FC Borecelona★
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            I give up 😀

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  25. Round and Round
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    Great signing for spurs. Why is everyone so sure Kaboul will be preffered to Dawson? He's been injured the whole of last season and was as highly regarded as King as a CB. Surely he will slot back into the first team alongside this new bloke once he's fit? I know Kaboul put in some good performances last season but its like comparing Jonny Evans to Vidic at United, Dawson is a much better defender and will replace Kaboul when back, as will Vidic to Evans (although Rio will get rested more often now due to age)

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    1. Round and Round
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Plus Dawson was Player of the Season for spurs in 09/10.

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    2. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      I don't think it's anything like comparing Evans to Vidic.

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        If im honest I stopped reading there, but just read on.
        How are you so sure Dawson will replace Kaboul? I personally think Dawson will struggle to even be 3rd choice centre back.

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        1. Round and Round
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          How are you so sure he won't?! Im sure because he was their best defender in 09/10 and only just behind King in 08/09. He's as good as if not better than Cahill from what I remember

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            Well it's 2012 now so all of that is irrelevant.
            Dawson was on the bench quite a bit last season behind Kaboul.

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      2. Round and Round
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Honestly I really think it is. Kaboul is good and had a great season a la Evans. Dawson is the best defender (including King) Spurs have and one of the best in the league a la Vidic

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        1. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          -1
          Dawson isn't fit to clean Vidic's boots. I'm not saying he isn't good but he is nowhere near being one of the best defenders in the league

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        2. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          King was awful at the end of last season.
          Vidic is one of the best CB's in the world and I wouldn't even be so sure of Rio starting over Evans in the strongest XI

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    3. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Not quite Vidic/Evans Round. 🙂 Kaboul was one of Spurs most improved players last season, a surprising rock and he's quicker and stronger than Daws. But Daws was stand-in Capt when Leds was out, he's highly rated at the club, no question.

      Verty, Daws, Kaboul and Caulker will all get plenty of games across the four tournaments, especially if Leds is forced to retire and there are still doubts as to whether Billy stands or goes. CB pairing could well depend on pre-season form - AVB is adamant that's it's a 'new start' for all (yes, even Bentley!).

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        You still have Bentley 😯

        Now there's a sleeper

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        1. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          Rumpelstilskin!

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          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            I think you may mean Rip Van Winkle? 😉

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            1. Frazek
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              14 years, 2 days ago

              Er, actually Rover, I believe you're bang on. 🙂

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              1. Frazek
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 2 days ago

                Either way, Bentley's career prospects remain Grimm. 🙂

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    4. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Kaboul is much more dynamic and comfortable with the ball than Daws. Comparing them to Vidic and Evans is ridiculous (unless you really, really rate Evans). I don't actually think there's a huge amount between Kaboul and Dawson but in the expected system I think it favous Kaboul (and Caulker) much more than Dawson who is more traditional sense.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        *last sentence is a mess but you get the gist

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      2. Round and Round
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Hmmm maybe, I still rate Dawson as a defender more, but I suppose AVB's tactics are more suited to Kaboul. Tbh AVB will not survive in the PL if he keeps his tactics the same as he did at Chelsea, our game is too fast paced and players being dragged out of position all the time by closing so high up is a recipe for disaster (unless u are barcelona)

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        1. Scroobius Mac
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          We'll see. AVB's tactics just weren't compatible with Terry (great tackler and great decision making when the game is coming at him but not great chasing and reacting).

          Walker Vert Kaboul BAE
          Sandro

          Actually looks like it's meant to play the AVB style, Chelsea did not so it's hard to get an accurate judgement of it yet.

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    5. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Dawson is a good defender but he isn't world class - I think comparing that situation to Vidic / Evans is a tad extreme.

      Yes, Dawson had an injury hit season last year but I think the way it should work is that he has to earn his place back in the team. I think Kaboul is ahead of him at the moment, given the awesome season he had last year but by the end of next season, that could easily change back to Dawson being ahead of him.

      Spurs will have enough matches this season for Dawson to get his chance and it's then a question of whether he takes it or not.

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      1. Round and Round
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Lol yes i know the comparision is a bit, but couldnt think of a similar one off the top of my head and its really there to make my point clearer rather than actually saying they are at the same level as Vidic and Evans (btw I think Evans is better than Kaboul through my red tinted glasses).
        Agree with the rest you have said tho, he should have to work his place back, and I think he has the quality to do so.

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        1. heco87
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          I agree - I think if he stays injury free, he'll be first choice at Spurs by the end of next season and be part of the England set-up.

          Quite like the way Spurs have got Kaboul who can cover at RB and Vertonghen who can also cover at LB.

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    6. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Kaboul is class. He will be first choice.

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        There's a case for Kaboul being the most improved player in the PL last season. He was immense. I like Dawson, but he's not the quickest and does make mistakes. Not sure he'll fit into AVB's thinking.

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  26. little_wizard123
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    If Terry is found guilty, for how long do you think the FA will ban him for? I suppose it'd have to be a minimum of 8 games, because of the Suarez incident.

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    1. heco87
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Has to be at least 8 games doesn't it.

      I know he's the victim, but the evidence given isn't painting AF in a great light either is it!

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      1. little_wizard123
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Yep, winding him up with talk about his affair and also deliberately trying to wind him up to get a reaction. I was also a bit slow in realising that Ferdinand didn't hear anything at the time, it was only on a video afterwards that he saw it!

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        1. heco87
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          Yeah I didn't realise that at first either - It is pretty clear from the video but surprised AF didn't realise in the heat of the moment.

          Perhaps we're just a bit naive, not expecting this sort of language and chat on a football pitch.

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          1. little_wizard123
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            'Anything is fine, as it's not racist' is how it appears.

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            1. Crouch Potato!
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 2 days ago

              Racist acts are illegal, unsavory remarks are not, plus Terry chose to have an affair without caring a jot about Bridge.

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      2. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        The comments AF made to Terry could not have existed but for actions JT chose to take which he knew were unacceptable. We are all born a certain colour which is something we don't have a choice in, and in no way should be a focal point for abuse.

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        1. heco87
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          Oh yeah, don't get me wrong - I'm not defending JT, just saying that I think AF hasn't gone about his business in a particularly professional way.

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    2. COMH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Ideal for getting Ivanovic/Cahill in FPL. Cheaper options to JT.

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  27. Scroobius Mac
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    Sandro in the Olympics, Parker struggling with injury there's a sneaky chance Vertonghen could even start the season OOP.

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    1. Funkyav
      • 17 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      where is THUD?

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Back in training but still not a defensive midfielder really.

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    2. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      I like it

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    3. COMH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      The way Spurs are dealing in the transfer market I would expect a new CDM any day now. 🙂

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    4. Frazek
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Don't forget the mighty Jake, I predict he'll become a genuine quality Prem players this season.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        What do you think of Livermore? He seems very good at keeping possession, average at tackling but lacking in creativity a worse version of Carrick to me. Obviously still young and could improve a lot.

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        1. denial
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          Livermore is more than capable of covering for Sandro and Parker.

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        2. Frazek
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 2 days ago

          'A worse version of Carrick'? What, the Carrick that has been fundamental to MU winning league titles? That's a very strange comment.

          Jake is progressing very well, his passing/possession was far tighter than Sandro's last season, and he's physically very strong. Positioning needs work but it's coming, but don't expect him to offer much in attack, it's not really his game - Sandro offers more in that dept.

          Mark my words, as much as I respect Parker (my personal Spurs player of the season last) his inevitable prolonged absences through injury will b e noticed less and less this season, largely due to Jake. Controversial it may be, but given the choice to keep one/sell the other, I'd currentl take Jake over Sandro (but, of course, would be very happy to keep both).

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          1. Scroobius Mac
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 2 days ago

            Well that's because it wasn't an insult it was a comparison. I really, really rate Carrick and think he's been instrumental to United. But he has always lacked that creative spark and has been better at keeping possession and keeping the tempo. To say that Livermore can do the same but is worse at it doesn't meant I don't rate him I just think he's lacking that creative edge from his game.

            Oh and Sandro is a beast and the future of our team IMO.

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  28. little_wizard123
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    https://twitter.com/50soandygray

    50 Shades of Andy Gray 😆

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Suddenly he stopped pounding her. Something was wrong. "Your condom" she said red faced "it came off in me." He grinned "pick that one out!"

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  29. China Mag
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 2 days ago

    Alreet. Are any of the rotation crew on?

    I have put King's 3 team rotations into my model. Here are some of my findings:

    WARNING, my analysis uses the team ratings from the scout ticker. This is not ideal as it is based on the end of last season. The ratings for the 3 relegated teams have been used for the 3 promoted teams, and there has been no adjustment for new signing, managers, etc. But until the scout updates these ratings, they will have to do.

    NB I only look at the rotation up until the winter WC is available, so the first 20 weeks.

    1) Best rotation = SWA/WBA/STK. NB, due to swansea's strong defence last season and great fixtures, they appear in the top 3 rotations (also SWA/QPR/WIG and SWA/QPR/RDG). However, i would be very wary of investing in their defenders until we see what sort of affect Rodgers (and caulker) leaving has. Also, their defenders will likely be expensive. Though Gary Monk shouldn't be more than 4.5m

    2) Best rotation not including swansea = SUN/WIG/FUL

    3) China Mags preferred rotations (not included in King's spreadsheet) = SUN/STK/WBA or SUN/STK/FUL. Is there any reason why these rotations aren't included? I thought maybe cost, but all of these teams are included in other rotations on the spreadsheet.

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      1. @banterburyH2H
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        cheers parm 😉

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      That has to be the most uncool 'crew' ever 😉

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        Cutting Crew were pretty woeful.

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    2. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Thanks for this, will be useful for Defenders when picking my team 🙂

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    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Cost yeah, all three look a bit expensive, i'll do it in a bit maybe.

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      1. China Mag
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        SWA/STK/WBA is one of the rotations included in King's analysis, which will be around the same cost as my two.

        And I would definitely prefer to pay a bit extra for a rotation with much stronger CS possibility

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    4. Round and Round
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      Reckon west brom and west ham will provide the best budget chances of clean sheets this season. Any workable rotations include west ham?

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    5. China Mag
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      SUN/STK/WBA gives you:

      rdg, RDG, EVE, LIV. RDG, SWA, QPR, NEW, SUN, AVL, QPR, whm, FUL, QPR, STK, avl, WHM, NOR, LIV, SOT

      SUN/STK/FUL gives you:

      NOR, RDG, whm, WBA, wig, SWA, sot, AVL, SUN, AVL, QPR, SUN, FUL, QPR, wba, avl, EVE, sot, SOT, SOT.

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      1. heco87
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        I think Sun/Stk/Ful you are looking at (at least) 5.0 /5.0 /5.0 - add Ian Harte to the mix and I think that's a bit dear.

        Think I'll be looking at cheaper options to complement the heavy hitters, but good info if you're trying to not splash the cash in defence.

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      2. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 2 days ago

        SUN/STO/FUL looks good. Trouble is, defenders from them three clubs won't be that cheap.

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    6. In Tommy We Trust
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 2 days ago

      AVL/QPR/WIG give you a nice run till winter wildcard and shouldn't cost too much

      SWA,EVE,STK,SWA,FUL,WBA,EVE,EVE,NOR,RDG,RDG,AVL,STK,FUL,new,WBA,WIG,swa,SOT

      Adding in the fact that Everton always start slow

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