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27 August 2012 3810 comments
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A couple of Gameweeks into the new season and Sir Alex Ferguson has been tinkering with his up front options already, handing Fantasy managers plenty to consider. For the weekend visit of Fulham, the United boss retained just one of his four attacking players –Shinji Kagawa – from the side that lost to Everton in Gameweek 1; a sign, perhaps, of what may unfold over the campaign.

There’s little doubt Kagawa has settled quickly into his new surroundings. With his manager admitting the idea of starting both Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie for the Fulham match was “too much of a risk” due to fitness issues, the Japanese star was an automatic selection for the role in “the hole” against Martin Jol’s side.

Prior to the match against the Cottagers, Ferguson lavished praise upon Kagawa, indicating he expects a significant attacking contribution from the Japanese star over the course of the current campaign:

I would also include Shinji Kagawa in the [goalscoring] mix because he is very much an attacking player, nominally from midfield but perfectly capable of taking a front role. One thing for sure is that he will add a scoring dimension if he plays central midfield, as he showed last season for Borussia Dortmund. We have been low on goals from midfield in recent seasons. There was a time when Bryan Robson would give you a dozen through the centre of the park and Paul Scholes in his heyday was good for 10 or so but lately we haven’t seen that kind of tally.I believe that Kagawa will put that right, which with the addition of Van Persie to the team, should ensure that we don’t lose any more titles on goal difference.

With Rooney now ruled out for the next few matches with a thigh injury, Kagawa could be set to forge a partnership with Van Persie up front for United – as a result, we take a look at the club’s first two matches to ascertain just where, if any, the difference lay in the respective performances.

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Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Looking at the average position map from the two games, the similarity between Kagawa and Rooney at Everton is striking. In the Goodison encounter (left), Kagawa (26) and Rooney (10) were almost in identical positions when in possession – the latter’s propensity to drop back and influence the game from a deeper position dampened the side’s attacking edge. Nani (17) also played a part here, too; starting on the right wing, the Portuguese star continually came inside when on the ball, affording Kagawa little space to dictate matters in “the hole”.

Compared to the Fulham game (right), the difference is obvious. Antonio Valencia (7) hogged the touchline far more than Nani managed at Everton, while Robin Van Persie (20) took up a more advanced position than Rooney in the lone forward role. These two factors combined allowed Kagawa a far greater in the middle of the park and afforded United a superior attacking edge. Indeed, Kagawa’s average position against Fulham is the same as Rooney’s at Everton; a definite sign that the two are perhaps too similar in style to play together as effectively as Kagawa and Van Persie or Rooney and Van Persie.

Kagawa and Rooney

Despite his side having less of the ball against Fulham in comparison to Everton (60.1% v 70% possession), Kagawa managed to register slightly more touches per minute (1.0 to 1.1) against the Cottagers. He also received exactly the same number of passes per minute (1.4) in both games, though his overall totals are obviously affected by the game time in each match –he played the full 90 minutes against the Toffees but made way for Rooney on 67 minutes on Saturday. Regardless of who he plays alongside up front, the Japanese star is likely to see the same amount of the ball, going by the stats so far.

Kagawa (eve)Kagawa (FUL)Rooney (FUL)Van Persie (FUL)Rooney (eve)
Mins/Touch1.11.03.32.21.3
Mins/Pass Rcvd1.11.44.33.31.9

Rooney’s stats, on the other hand, vastly differ over the two games. Against Everton as the lone frontman, he had a touch every 1.3 minutes and received a pass every 1.9 minutes but, coming on as a direct replacement for Kagawa, he failed to impress in “the hole” alongside Van Persie. The game seemed to pass by the United number 10 – with a touch every 3.3 minutes and a pass received every 4.3 minutes, his arrival failed to have the desired effect.

A look at Van Persie’s stats against Fulham highlights the difference in his interpretation of the lone forward role – he had less of a desire to drop back like Rooney against Everton and was resultantly far less involved in the overall play with a touch every 2.2 minutes and a pass received every 3.3 minutes. With more space afforded to Kagawa as a result of Van Persie and Valencia’s presence, the Japanese playmaker managed four shots in the Fulham match, whereas against Everton he failed to register a single attempt.

Nani and Valencia

The battle for the right wing berth is just as pertinent a point. As the respective average position maps highlight, Valencia clearly offers a better balance on the flank and the stats more than back this up. Against Everton, Nani saw the ball once every 1.4 minutes – while that’s not too dissimilar to Valencia’s 1.1 minutes per touch against Fulham, it’s where the likeness ends. Nani made just 28 touches in the Toffees final third over his 78 minutes at Goodison; half Valencia’s 56 in the win over Fulham.

Indeed, the latter was United’s main out ball in the attacking zone against the Cottagers – he received 40 passes and made 29 successful passes in the final third; Nani’s Goodison stats are 16 and 12 respectively, a significant difference.

Mins/TouchFinal 3rd TchPass Rcvd Final 3rdSucc Pass Final 3rdCrossesChances Created
Nani (eve)1.428161280
Valencia (FUL)1.1564029143

The maps below represent the position of origin of each chance created in each of United’s two games so far. The lack of creativity on the right at Everton (left) differs vastly from the Fulham match (right) with Valencia on the flank, with United failing to provide a single scoring opportunity down the right at Goodison. The latter produced 14 crosses against Fulham compared to Nani’s eight at Everton and Valencia also created three goalscoring opportunities in Saturdays’ win – Nani failed to make a single “key pass” against Moyes’ men.

Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012
Swansea Average Positions Vs QPR 2012

Nani’s lack of defensive awareness is another factor here and one which could play a part in Ferguson’s thinking. The Portuguese star’s tendency to drift centrally when on the ball resulted in 14 of Everton’s 18 crosses coming from the Toffees left flank, with the likes of Leighton Baines and Steven Pienaar benefiting from Nani’s wayward positioning. Fulham, on the other hand, were reduced to just five of their 13 crosses from the same wing with Valencia and Rafael limiting the attacking potential of John Arne Riise and Alex Kacaniklic in comparison. Furthermore, when it comes to goalscoring opportunities, Everton created six from the left on Monday, while Fulham managed just two at the weekend, despite having far more of the ball against United than the Toffees.

The stats certainly suggest that right now, on form at least, Valencia is a far more productive option on the right than Nani and with Kagawa’s partnership alongside Van Persie up front looking strong, Rooney’s injury certainly takes one difficult decision out of Ferguson’s hands.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. DRIZ ✅
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    god this celeb big bro suckss

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    1. COMH
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      Frankie Boyle ripping Joey Barton and JT on Channel 4.

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      1. Sᴄʜᴜ̈RRʟᴇ ⓝ
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        Genius! Loving this 🙂

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      If only there was some way of changing the channel.

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      1. Epic Fail
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        😀

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  2. Torres76
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    Fellani or Pienaar?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
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      pies

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Make .1 from Fellaini then buy Pienaar. 🙂

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        1. 4vets
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          You impetuous wildcarders!!! 😉

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    2. GLAD
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      Have a feeling Pienaar will outscore Fellani over the season, but this game is all about form and Fellani has it at the moment.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        So does Pienaar, and wont drop deep occasionally as Fellaini will

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    3. Darth
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      Pie

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  3. FF Dirtbag
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    Barton getting ripped into on Frankie Boyle's show. Love it.

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    1. RÏɠBY
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      what channel?

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      1. Ings on the up
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        4

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  4. jpdyolf
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    So after watching that shower of shite West Ham on Saturday, there are still those recommending their defenders! I wouldn't pick any of them even if it meant playing with a team of nine or ten;

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    1. Trigg ⭐️
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      They did keep a clean sheet the week before ...

      Plus factor in that they were up against the new greatest player in the world, Michu.

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        $ million defender maximum. Should be ok at home

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          *4 Demel imo

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    2. Somalion
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      They've kept more clean sheets than City or United defenders so far 😉

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        And coceded two less then Liverpool

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        1. Somalion
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          West Ham defenders are a must have!

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  5. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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    Ivanovic -> Rangel ... or ... Turner -> Clyne?

    In order to free up Hazard GW4 funds 😛

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    1. patshaw
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      i did ivan to rangel...

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    2. Darth
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      Turner to Clyne if keeping Ivan doesnt leave you short of GW3 players

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        Well, keeping Turner would leave me short anyway, he was benched last game!

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  6. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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    Aston Villa are closing in on Genk's Belgian international striker Christian Benteke - which would give them a forward line of Bent & Benteke.

    http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/08/27/exclusive-aston-villa-target-belgian-striker-christian-benteke-97319-31709457/

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    1. 4vets
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      😆

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Shame they didnt get Long and Cox

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    2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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      Cheers PB, your posts never fail to deliver something interesting! 🙂

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    3. COMH
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      They need to sign Bentley next.

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    4. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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      More bizarrely, Swiss club FC Sion are in negotiations to sign Alessandro del Piero having already landed Gennaro Gattuso.

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      1. 4vets
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        What's that got to do with sex?

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        1. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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          Well, if you add FC Sion's other close-season signing, Kyle Lafferty, it would be the most unlikely threesome since details emerged of The Krankies' secret sex life.

          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2075996/The-Krankies-admit-secret-swingers-Not-fan-dabi-dozi.html

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          1. Back to Back Ballacks
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            😆
            transfer news tekkers with the banter to match - PBubblejet u da man

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      2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        :O

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      3. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Going for the 2006 Italy team then?
        Luca Toni next!!

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      4. The Light Knight
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        What's happening in Switzerland that we don't know about? 😕

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    5. Lao Tzu
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      Villa should sign Gueye, Gueye & Bent

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  7. tomc990
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    Does anyone know how Larsson is likely to be affected by the signing of Adam Johnson?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Could play deeper, or 2 in 3 rotation with McClean?

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      1. tomc990
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        Those were my thoughts, he's always been a good fantasy football pick, but maybe O'Neill isn't convinced.
        I fear he'll be made a sub as surely a front line of Fletcher, Johnson, McClean, Sessengon and Larsson is too much...I'll probably just transfer him out, his price is close to falling.
        Thanks 🙂

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    2. Darth
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      Has Johnson definitely signed?

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      1. tomc990
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        Yeah, signed a few days back. He's priced at 7.0 on FPL.

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        1. Darth
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          Great prospect at that price

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          1. tomc990
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            I only have 6.5 to work with in that region and want to see how Johnson is played, but definitely one to keep an eye on 🙂

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      2. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        Yep, I'm sorely tempted.

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    3. isacki: full casual
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      He has gone central recently apparently. Not surprising given Sunderland general lack of quality midfielders.

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    4. mgrea
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      Won't affect McClean I don't think. Larsson will just play more central.

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      1. tomc990
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        Thanks all! I might give him a few more GWs, see if he plays a new role, how effective for FPL it is, etc, if i find any news articles by O'Neill which help i'll post too 🙂

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  8. UnitednationsXI
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    got lost on the last post of last page...

    are ramires, tarabt, cashly going to drop by any chance tonight?? and is williams going to rise tonight?

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    1. jpdyolf
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      Ramires heading wrong way along with Cole but ok for tonite it seems

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  9. Ings on the up
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    Great article!

    My thoughts on my team for this week are Torres --> Tevez (done yesterday evening), then Cole --> Baines. Keeping Lescott on the basis surely he'll replace Kolo Toure, if not, well we'll see...

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Torres will go up .2 too bizarrely, but Tevez probably .3 this week

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  10. Mrtehbigcheese
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    his is my current team for gw 3

    jask sub: federici
    lescott , clyne , demel , hangeland sub : a cole
    bale , yaya , dyer sub : hazard
    tevez graham ade
    (3.2 in the bnak)

    this is the team i wanna make with the wc

    jask , fed

    jenkinson , rafael , zabaleta , sub : clyne , demel ,
    bale , yaya , guthrie, michu , sub : hazard
    rvp , tevez , graham
    .6 in the bank

    thoughts guys

    thanks!

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  11. pol
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    Best defence :
    A- begovic fridel
    Rafael clyn baines demel rangel
    B- begovic al-habsi
    BaE baines demel clyn

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    1. Darth
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      A

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  12. The Pep Revolution
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    Ivanovic or Lescott for the next few weeks? Currently have both and Im replacing one with Rangel. Thanks.

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    1. Darth
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      Lescott

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      1. The Pep Revolution
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        Thanks but do you mean keep Lescott or transfer him out?

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        1. Darth
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          Keep Lescott

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          1. The Pep Revolution
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            Ok thanks.

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  13. Salah’s Sonnet
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    Hiya guys, been away all weekend and missed all the action, however didn't score that badly. I have two birning questions.

    Firstly, is Bale worth keeping the faith with?

    And secondly, is this team worth touching up with a wildcard?

    de gea - Cerny
    Zabaleta, Ivanovic, Hangeland - Demel, Barnett
    Michu, Cazorla, Bale, McClean - Britton
    Tevez, RVP, Graham

    Advice & Comments much appreciated.

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    1. Acquafresca
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      Yes & No.

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    2. The Light Knight
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      Hey Mann
      Probably and No

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  14. Mrtehbigcheese
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    this is my current team for gw 3

    jask sub: federici
    lescott , clyne , demel , hangeland sub : a cole
    bale , yaya , dyer sub : hazard
    tevez graham ade
    (3.2 in the bnak)

    this is the team i wanna make with the wc

    jask , fed

    jenkinson , rafael , zabaleta , sub : clyne , demel ,
    bale , yaya , guthrie, michu , sub : hazard
    rvp , tevez , graham
    .6 in the bank

    what do you all think, is it too soon to wc? better now than later wen prices r too high

    thanks!

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    1. lightspeed
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      Not sure on the wc. You are keeping 9 of your original players with rvp and michu been the only significant changes.

      Maybe be worth riding it out for a bit.

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      1. Mrtehbigcheese
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        dosent the wc squad seem good tho? i mean i dont think im gonna wc and replace everyone at some point.. some good players already

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        1. lightspeed
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          Not sure that it is a significant difference.

          I think both the teams look good. It would be net resting to screenshot those teams and review the points after the next Gw. I reckon they could be very similar at a guess.

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          1. Mrtehbigcheese
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            yeah man you have a point
            its just the price rises that concern me /:
            thanks for the help bud

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  15. Mrtehbigcheese
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    michu or dyer?
    is michu really a season keeper?

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      It seems so. 6.5 (6.9) for a striker listed as a mid in an attacking team with great fixtures

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      1. Epic Fail
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        He's a season keeper because he has great fixtures? How does that work then? 😉

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    2. super zlatan
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      Michu

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      Why does he need to be a season keeper? He's a next few weeks keeper, that's all that matters for now.

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  16. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Long Bent Cox Inler Arsene

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    1. 4vets
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      Oh... see my post below 😉

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        Timing!!

        Im at work and bored!!

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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          .

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  17. 4vets
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    Blimey! It really does seem like the juveniles are sent to bed at 10.30pm. I've learnt something. Fantastic! 🙂

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    1. The Light Knight
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      Penis

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    2. Menly
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      Boobies

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    3. Epic Fail
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      Arse.

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    4. Ginkapo FPL
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      American kids arent innocent anyway

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    5. Ings on the up
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      Test

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  18. isacki: full casual
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    Trying to get this one right because of the United/City letdown so far. Who would be your top 10 defences for value for money this season? Based on the cheapest nailed on defender/GK and not considering attacking points.

    I'd roughly go:

    Sunderland
    Newcastle
    West Brom
    Stoke
    Fulham
    Swansea
    Everton
    United
    West Ham
    Arsenal

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    1. lightspeed
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      I'd say stoke are closer to the top. Now theyre not in Europe the brit will be a fortress again IMO.

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    2. The Light Knight
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      Boo to not considering attacking points
      Pool and Spuds might make that list later on in the year if they get used to their new bosses' styles

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  19. O Fenomeno
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    Anyone else watchin Avatar on Film 4?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Nah but seen it before. Twas alright but nowhere near as good as the hype.

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    2. Somalion
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      Nah although it is very pretty on my new TV

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      1. Somalion
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        Was meant to have a 😀 there

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      2. O Fenomeno
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        Look at all the pretty colours! 😀

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        1. Somalion
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          😀 Very well made, story is the exact same as Pocahontas but I don't mind that 😀

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    3. The Pep Revolution
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      No but its a great film.

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  20. Torres76
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    How does this wildcard team look?

    DDG / Begovic

    Ivanovic / Zabaleta / Rangel / Jenkinson / Demel

    Hazard / Bale / Michu / Fellaini / Kacaniklic

    RVP / Tevez / Graham

    Thoughts please?

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    1. Torres76
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      Sorry it should be:

      DDG / Begovic

      Ivanovic / Zabaleta / Rangel / Jenkinson / Demel

      Hazard / Yaya Toure / Michu / Fellaini / Kacaniklic

      RVP / Tevez / Graham

      Thoughts please?

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      1. firstade
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        I think it looks quite solid. I have almost the same, but might have to make some changes now... 🙂

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    2. super zlatan
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      Needs more baines

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      1. Torres76
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        Baines instead of Zabaleta?

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  21. The_Druid
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    Gents, any opinion appreciated. How would you rate this wc team?

    Foster/Begovic

    Baines/Williams/Cuellar/Hughes/Demel

    Bale/Kagawa/HBA/Michu/Guthrie

    RVP/Tevez/Petric

    0.6 in the bank to get Hazard for GW4 if needed.

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    1. 4vets
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      I like it, like TORRES76's above but, having taken a 4pt hit, I'm not far off that anyway.

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      1. The_Druid
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        True..great team by the way.Mine was ruined though nd had no choice..

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        1. Torres76
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          I am wildcarding tonight because their are sooooooo many price rises tonight....

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  22. The Bandit
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    Re my quantity ruining quality post... by the time you type something and anyone replies it's gone. I'm not saying everyone who is new has nothing to say, quite the oppostie, but the mindless posts,...the aggressive,spam, wums, people asking the same things overe and over agian and the plain thick as shit posts are killing this forum to the financial advantage of the site.

    Shoot me down scouts, you have the tools? I bet 70% of the posters max from two years ago still lurk (and therefore play) but rarely if ever post..

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Yeah seems a bit pointless getting in to a debate as it only lasts a few minute, even seconds sometimes. It's great that the site is growing, but the quality has taken a plummet. Dead zone not included.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        This might be the kind of thing that pushes them towards away from this comment system. The volume has broken it. It's now not just a narrow window around matches but most of Tue hours of the waking day.

        Also the WUMs feed off the mindless, it's an unholy marriage. Neither contribute.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          *Tue=the

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      they probably do post but nobody sees it

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    3. dribbler
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      well I agree with every word of that uncle

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      +42 WR... got what you were saying and agree with it.

      I suggest we all just populate an older post as that worked well a week or so ago.

      That said, I would like to try and contribute as much as i can but I really don't need to be here reading teenager's tits/arse posts.

      It's not right.

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    5. Babytigrrr
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Just popped in and spotted this. I, for one, will only post/ read stuff if I see someone on here I recognise. I agree to a point but it's different strokes. But I tend to only read posts from people that I know talk sense.

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      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        and yet you read WR's...

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        1. Babytigrrr
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          There are exceptions to my rule!! :p

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      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        You said earlier you were bullied off by RBJ? Well he talked a lot of sense..... he also taked a lot of shit but he had less teeth than you... it's the internet.

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        1. Babytigrrr
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          I have teeth! But you couldn't argue with the man! And nobody did a damn thing to stop him.

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          1. The Bandit
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            C'mon, he got as much ctiticism as praise if not more..

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            1. Babytigrrr
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Yeah well..... he got personal.

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    6. Portsmouth Bubblejet
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Sad to say it, Wild Rover, but you're right. I'm really pleased for the Scouts that the site has taken off so well, but it does mean that the comments pages have become almost unusable.

      Compared to two years ago, there also seems to be fewer users who are genuinely interested in football (as opposed to just the number-crunching of FPL), let alone go to matches. Bit depressing at the moment.

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Some staggeringly bad advice being offered.. 🙂

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    7. AP
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      +1

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      1. Babytigrrr
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        and here's another!

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Cool link. 😉

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          1. Babytigrrr
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Keeps me incognito

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    8. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 19 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I hear you loud and clear and I do intend to invest time and money to improve matters but it will take time.

      Sadly, the code we previously built to improve the comment system could not be implemented due to the sheer volume of comments and the potential overhead on the servers. The wordpress comments system is not efficient enough to cope with the numbers we throw at it if we were to start bolting on extra code. I can't find a single wordpress based site with our level of activity - not even sites like mashable who have a couple of million uniques a month.

      The site copes ok now but that's without the bells and whistles we really need to improve things. If I tried to implement additional code on top of what we've got, the site would fall over at high traffic times or require a monstrous amount of servers to cope. Saturday's are anxious enough for me as it is.

      I don't see a forum as the answer because again, the sheer volume of posts that would be created would require a large number of moderators and running a forum would be a full-time job in itself and that would likely reduce the amount of time we'd have to spend on editorial content. We really don't want to become a forum led site.

      A custom made comment system, rather than an off the shelf solution like Discuss, is the answer we're going with. I've had a first meeting today to plan and implement this. Our own system can be lightweight and tailor made to our requirements, allowing us to add features without the risk of instability. We can then have the kind of features I tried to implement in Wordpress like a favoured list of posters, the ability to retrieve your comments and replies, a working search and notification system.

      We've got some short-term developments to roll out in the next couple of weeks but the two big development projects in the next six months are the comment system, with a new backend system for handling user accounts and profiles to run alongside it. Both will go a long way to giving the site a more efficient codebase with the flexibility to add the kind of features I wanted twelve months ago.

      Try and stick with us and I'll keep you posted on progress.

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      1. Babytigrrr
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        On the ball as ever!

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        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 19 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Our "problem" is pretty unique - I've tried Discuss and I've tried getting custom Wordpress code - neither has worked. I know it's now time for a new approach and so this is now a focus. I've been well aware of the issues but massively frustrated by my decision to go with bolt-ons instead of opting for a custom solution a year ago. I really didn't expect the comment volume to go on increasing to the extent it has and this has now forced a rethink.

          It's a nice problem to have but there are no easy solutions or case studies to follow. We're lucky enough to have a great tech director, however, who will, I'm sure, create something that gives us the platform to improve things.

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      2. AP
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Good stuff.

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      3. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I'm glad you're looking at this Mark. I've zero knowledge of the technical issues but I do have a suggestion that may or may not be technically easy:

        Just have 10 separate forums rather than one...there would be no difference between them but everybody could just pick one at random...the point is that each individual forum would have roughly 10% of the posts and we could have proper conversations again.

        I paid the membership twice but haven't bothered this year...a members only forum would make the whole thing MUCH more attractive to me though.

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        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 19 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Believe me, I have ideas for how the experience can be improved. User filters to only show comments and replies made by "friends", comment voting up and down so that spam posts simply get shoved off or even removed should they receive enough votes down.

          Our current platform just doesn't allow for us to add such functionality without bloating the code. We need to separate the comments system from the rest of the site to ensure that, if comments is busy, the site remains stable. Once the comment system is independent to the rest of the site, we then have the headroom to add features, beefing up the servers required to run it. Then we're only limited by our ideas and the time it takes to implement them.

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          1. dribbler
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            well good luck anyway...we all know how hard you've been working on it all over the years

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          2. Rossendale Rover
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Mark, sympathies all round but the scout blogging audience is too big to make this forum meaningful anymore. I'm a twitching spectator keen to contribute and share ideas but the sheer pace of the comments and responses mean that the forum doesn't work and only gets worse. Real shame but I don't want to read about who's watching the latest film on here. Larger forums unfortunately require increased moderation and this one is not immune. What about introducing threads relating to specific subjects to focus the discussions a little?

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      4. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Sweet

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      5. TommyK
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Sounds pretty promising.

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      6. Attila the Bum
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Here is a solution!

        Make any poster go through a series of challenges. A sort of 'Quest' if you will, that will weed out those unworthy to ruminate on these holy boards. For this is a hallowed hall of records, and many an undeserving oik has besmirched the purity of this eternal document by things such as

        LOL@ROONYOWNRS

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        1. jamsiep
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Let's not do that.

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            You'd be the first casualty.

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            1. jamsiep
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              That was the joke.

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              1. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                I know. It was a good one.

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            2. The Bandit
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Hey man! Is Twitter down? 😉

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              1. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                Don't worry I'll be back over there soon. This is a strange and foreign land to me these days. I don't know who the modern equivalent of Jas, Titus Shambles or The Great Buggu is.

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                1. AP
                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 6 months ago

                  Mazungu!

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                  1. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    13 years, 6 months ago

                    My first five minutes back and I've already been called Mazungu. Ahh the memories.

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            3. Ginkapo FPL
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              So this is what it takes to get you commenting again

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              1. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                Apparently so. What does WWKD mean?

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                1. dribbler
                  • 16 Years
                  13 years, 6 months ago

                  i miss your posts Attila

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                  1. AP
                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 6 months ago

                    Strange acronym then.

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                  2. Attila the Bum
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    13 years, 6 months ago

                    How's tricks Dribbler?

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        2. TommyK
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          You could cut a lot of that out by preventing anyone under the age of about 12 *cough* CFCTOM *cough* from joining...

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Anyone born after the Berlin Wall fell is not allowed to have an opinion. General rule for life.

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            1. TommyK
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Do one! 😛

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            2. AP
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              +lots excellent rule.

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              1. TommyK
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                Only if we can Logan's Run everyone over the age of 27. (dutch footballers currently playing for manchester united excluded)

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                1. Attila the Bum
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 15 Years
                  13 years, 6 months ago

                  Bye bye Fergie then.

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                  1. TommyK
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 6 months ago

                    Bebe could replace him- whoever is good enough for the jedi council is good enough for united.

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        3. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          like the crystal maze, i like it.

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          1. Attila the Bum
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Exactly. You can vote to 'lock' someone into a post so they cant comment on anything else.

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            1. applebonkers
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              lol. "so who wants to try and win a crystal to unlock CFC tom? He got locked in due to getting timed out on the london club objectivity test"

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              1. TommyK
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                Do the losers of this game show get summarily executed? If so I'm in.

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              2. Attila the Bum
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                hahaha!

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          2. TommyK
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Genuinely read that as crystal meth.... 😳

            Should probably watch a bit less breaking bad.

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      7. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        unlike a thai "lady" i think you can't have both unfortunately. this is what happens when your site is good enough to get monster traffic. the only solution is to get less traffic which is no solution as it's impossible unless you and your writing team decide to swap their thesauruses for heroin

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        1. Attila the Bum
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          They could give my website some of the traffic. There's nothing about football on there but I'm sure the lurkers could lurk happily. Hi Lurkers.

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          1. TommyK
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Good thing it isn't about football- given your current ranking I don't think anyone would be able to trust what you'd say. #Granville

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      8. Paul
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        this sounds amazing...appreciate the work u guys have been putting over the years really do appreciate it.. 🙂

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    9. Paul
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      totally agree with you....joined this site 2 season's ago......since then the site has gone very public and has done very well....really happy for the site but everyday here find new posters who talk shit and keep on whining and askin stupid arse question....and i think ur spot on regarding the fact that many old posters refrain from posting now a days cause dere are so many damn new posters here who give a shit or talk utter rubbish!!!!

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  23. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    any reason not to do Rooney -> Petric tonight?
    hate the idea of losing 0.1m, esp given i'm going to need all my spare cash for Hazard next week!

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  24. The Dom-Bastic scale
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    If any of your chaps are after a tasty but fun classic league to join. I am a newbie and decided to start one.

    Would be great to have your informed (I assume :-p) teams involved.

    149644-462167

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  25. The Dom-Bastic scale
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Also. Wildcarding is illogical.

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    1. O Fenomeno
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I disagree, if someone needs to WC they should use it.

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  26. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Jeez, 4-0 Tiago

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  27. Connor's Calling
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Dyer & Petric
    or
    Kacakilic & Graham
    ?
    I HATE PRICE RISES!

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    1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      First one for me

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  28. dribbler
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Do you guys prefer Pienaar or Fellaini? Reasons would be good.

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    1. Torres76
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Short term Fellani - Long term Pienaar

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      1. Darth
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I agree, Fellaini will start to drop deeper when the other forwards start to get games

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Reasons, as asked for by the OP? I would be interested to hear them too.

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Forget that, see Demi below 🙂

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    2. Trigg ⭐️
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pie, he will player further forward this season. Fellaini is an aerial threat, but over the season, I'll be surprised if Pie doesn't outscore him, with his goals and assists.

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    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pienaar because Fellaini won't stay in that position all season, Pienaar will.

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      1. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        thanks everyone...but is it reasonable to assume that Fellaini will play more games?...and if you agree that he will play more does that alter your opinion?

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        1. Demí
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          I think they'll both play a similar number of games. Pienaar seems like a nailed on player for Everton, vital to the way they play. His partnership with Baines on the left is great too. But with the new attackers they've bought there could be scope for Pienaar getting the odd rests, but that wouldn't alter my decision to get him over Fellaini.

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    4. Demí
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think i prefer Pienaar right now. Fellaini has never been a great goalscorer, and he rarely seems to grt assists. Pienaar does look like he's adding goals to his game now, with 4 goals in his last 8. Also on set pieces and gets assists, unlike Fellaini. Fellaini's returns largely depend on him behind upfront behind the striker too, which isn't likely to continue in the long term. So for that reason i favour Pienaar. Lastly Fellaini also picks up yellow cards, with his physical approach.

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    5. LMNO
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pienaar s still 6.5. Both look good but and both will get points at different times. If they were both still 6.5 I'd say toss a coin

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  29. Torres76
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Can you help choose the following:

    1. DDG or Rafael?
    2. Vorm or Rangel?
    3. Which Man City defender besides Kompany. I have Zabaleta
    4. Nasri or Ya Ya Toure?

    Thank you

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  30. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Doesn't look like Baines will rise tonight, correct?

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    1. super zlatan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Correct

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