[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
17 September 2012 2146 comments
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Gameweek four concludes tonight at Goodison Park, as Everton play host to Newcastle United. The Dugout Discussion opens to see two sides with high ambitions for the season tussle it out. The team news is in and is as follows…

Everton XI: Howard, Hibbert, Jagielka, Distin, Baines, Mirallas, Neville, Osman, Pienaar, Fellaini, Jelavic.

Newcastle XI: Harper, Perch, Williamson, S Taylor, Santon, Anita, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Marveaux, Ben Arfa, Cisse.

David Moyes makes two changes from the side that suffered defeat at the hands of West Brom in matchday three, with Tony Hibbert and Kevin Mirallas starting in place of Darron Gibson and Steven Naismith.

As for the visitors, Steve Harper replaces the injured Tim Krul, and James Perch and Mike Williamson patch up the defence in the absence of Danny Simpson and Fabricio Coloccini. Slyvain Marveaux is a surprise inclusion, as Demba Ba drops to the bench.

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  1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If Defoe scored 2 yesterday in a 3-1 victory and received no bonus points then surely Ba can't receive more than 1 tonight? He had a shot off target too

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Defoe had seven shots off target!

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        as he said

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      2. Kanus hat trick
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        7 (Seven)!

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Great logic

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      1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        7? Crikey, i take that back, sorry

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      2. AK ⭐
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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  2. Oliver Reed
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    bloody 888sport. With 8 mins to go i wanted to put a tenner on there being 3 goals or more. it doersnt give you the option so i had to go odd or even, i went with odd, got all excited when pienaar scored and then Ba pops up 🙁

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  3. ThreeLeftFeet
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    What a cracking game. Saved my week, too. Even though Captain Baines didn't quite pull off the astonishing score I was dreaming of after fifteen minutes, him & Peanut still scored more points than the rest of my team put together.

    Some lovely goals.

    And the Everton mascot's tribute to Liverpool... And Harper helping Anichebe avoid a booking... It's enough to restore your faith in Premier League football.

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    1. eratrius
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      other than the fact that a 4-2 was called a 2-2

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    2. Well you know, Triffic
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Two perfectly legitimate goals chalked off and Fellaini escaping a red card for a potential leg breaker...sounds like the prem alright.

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    3. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A good assessment of matters

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      1. ThreeLeftFeet
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, the two legit goals that were ruled out took the gloss off it, even for a neutral (and I'd have an ulcer after that if I was an Everton fan). So I'm not saying it was a fair result, or a perfectly referree'd game. But by golly it was exciting.

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  4. CFC1990
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Do you guys reckon that McCartney start against Sunderland at the weekend?

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    1. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Oh-eye!!!!

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    2. MARVELLUS
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      think so

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  5. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ok I've cracked it.

    Ba 3 BP
    Baines 2 BP
    Anichebe 1 BP

    Gutierez also with chance

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    1. Hazard267
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      badly wrong

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        bookmark it

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      2. Krionos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I honestly don't think Baines will get any. They conceded 2??

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        1. Simon69
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          He's a full back that scored plus cleared off the line..had a fantastic game.

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          1. Krionos
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I hope your right. I have him.

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    2. tontotyrrell
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      pienarr 2

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    3. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      test

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  6. Henry Hill
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Great tribute to the Hillsborough 96 tonight, well done Everton

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xto83v_everton-tribute-to-the-96

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah, quality stuff.

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  7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Wild card ftw. 🙂

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      still think I'm keeping mine

      is Ba coming in?

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        bring ade 😆

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          You've seen mine ...

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    2. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hear there's some sort of guide out there in the interverse....

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hehehe! 😛

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    3. Minty
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Thought I was gonna register a win in the league against los pollos. Jelavic v Pienaar, was happy when Pienaar got booked, soon turned to despair. H2H is just another form of torture!!

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Drip ... drip ... drip ... ! 😉

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  8. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I need Baines/Pienaar's bonus to be more than Ba's to win my H2H. Although I think Pienaar will get 0, Baines 2 & Ba 3 🙁

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  9. In Tommy We Trust
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Baines for 3 bonus?

    Goal, a fair few blocks, involved in everything. Pienaar and ba both had shots off target. Here's hoping

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    1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ba with two goals would be favourite for the 3 I would think.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        99 touches, 3 chances created and no shots off target

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        1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I'm a Baines and Pienaar owner so if Ba gets no baps I'd be happy 😉

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Easily. Imo.

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I hope so. His stats from the first half alone must have been incredible. Goal, key passes, blocks.

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    3. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ref has 3

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Ref has -3

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    4. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      baines had shots off target too

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        When?

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      2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        When?!?

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        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          in the game about 75 mins

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      3. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Where are people getting this rubbish from?! Baines had one shot, and funnily enough it was on target.

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          he had 2 shots and one of target. check your sources

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      4. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        think that was a cross overhit

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      5. Simon69
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        When?

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    5. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Baines had a goal line clearance too

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Means nothing to the machine though.

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    6. LeBron - King of Argentina
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Probably he will get it. Could be a tie as well between him and Ba for 3 BPs

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  10. Kanus hat trick
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How many gaols did everyones teams score this week... I got 0 goals but 5 assists

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      1 goal 2 assists.8-)

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    2. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      0 goals, 1 assist

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    3. chinmusic
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      4 assists, 3 goals

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    4. SW6
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      2 goals 3 assists

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    5. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I got no goals but did ok this week. Unusual. Hopefully my players are saving the goals for next week!

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    6. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      3g 4a

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    7. Naboo
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      2 goals, 2 assists

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    8. Seamy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      1 Goal 2 Assists

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    9. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      0 goals, 3 assists
      0 keepers, 3 cleanies...

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  11. Valar(Keith)
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    A) Zabaleta + Kagawa to Demel + Hazard
    OR
    B) Kagawa + Graham to Pienaar + Ba ( )

    2 free transfers..
    playing 3 at the back with Rafael Hangeland Clyne atm, so in A) Demel would replace one of them

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  12. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How does this look

    Rvp out for berba
    Tevez out for ba

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    1. Paul
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      lol...good one...surely u must be.....????...right???

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm considering Tevez out for Berbs.. mad as it sounds. I don't like City's next 3 fixtures.

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  13. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Form over fixtures?!

    Now Ba has both?

    Remember late years run.... Hmmmm.....

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i'm gonna wait till friday night on this one

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  14. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Absolutely smashing match. 7 from Pienaar... I'll take it 🙁 Jagielka's assist was stolen off me from the joke of a linesmen!!

    Now for next week. Kags for Yaya or HBA? -4

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  15. Darth
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Did Gary Neville just let one off?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes

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  16. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    now that's out of the way, who I captain next week

    a) RvP (liv)
    b) Tevez (ARS)
    c) Berba (wig)
    d) Hazard (STO)
    e) Michu (EVE)

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    1. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hazard easily imo.

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    2. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Think Im gonna go Tevez

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    3. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      D

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    4. LeBron - King of Argentina
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      D

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    5. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Rvp

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  17. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Is Podolski -> Ba for a hit before the next GW a stupid transfer?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      No

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  18. izo
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Didn't watch the game tonight, just wandering if there were any stand out players?
    Heard it was a very good game.

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Jelivic two goals n looked brill

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Baines, Pienaar, Ba.. (First half Mirallas)

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    3. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Baines, Pienaar, Cabaye, Ba. Ben Arfa could have had assists and a goal, but wasn't clinical tonight. Still think he is a good prospect for next gameweek.

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Errr ... 😉

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    5. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Plenty, cracking game, Pienarr, Ba, I thought Hibbert was excellent also.

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    6. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Baines was very good when Everton were good. The rest were very average except Ba who took his chances... still not outstanding though.

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    7. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Baines/Pienaar first half. Ba/Cabaye second half.

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Mirallas was great too.

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        1. chinmusic
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Disagree. Mirallas was stupidly greedy all game.

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          1. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Completely agree.

            Going to be watching much of the World t20?

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            1. chinmusic
              • 16 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              It's not cricket, but yes I will be. It will be novel watching England defend a world title. You?

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  19. Smakies
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    i need cuellar out for whom ?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
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      Why?

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Hehehe 🙂

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      2. Smakies
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        because he is slighlty injured, and brown

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        1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          He isn't brown though

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        2. Holy See
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Racist.

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          1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            It's terrible maybe it's John terry

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          2. Smakies
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            lol

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Why?

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    3. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Why why why

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  20. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Another disappointing week over... bring on the next! 🙂

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  21. Hapless Hat-Tricks
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    68 points before adding any Baines' inevitable bonus points.
    Whacked a fiver on Baines First Goalscorer at 16/1 too, so pretty pleased with the GW.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I really hope that your God destroys you with a thunderbolt.

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      1. LeBron - King of Argentina
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +100

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    2. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Beat me by a point 😛

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    3. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nicely done mate. Lucky with those subs though;)

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      1. Hapless Hat-Tricks
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Perks of not having a bench full of spuds.

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    4. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Remember, by posting your score once you have agreed to post your score every GW.

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    5. In Tommy We Trust
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sure it wasn't $17 😉

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  22. Paul
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Guys realistically who has the better chance of playing next GW???

    ADEBAYOR or PETRIC????…(As u can predicct got both deciding whom to let go off first…)

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    1. Smakies
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      ade

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    2. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      5-4-1?

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    3. Ghost Ship
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Both unlikely to play . See who plays for spurs in europa - if it's ade suspect he has no chance at weekend. Petric outside chance if it was an injury last week that kept him out rather than tactics.

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  23. The Pep Revolution
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Do you think Pienaar will get any bonus points?

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    1. LeBron - King of Argentina
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      SLight chance mate. It's possible, he was involved in the game a lot.

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    2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Three for ba FACT
      Two for Pienaar FACT
      One for Haines FACT

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  24. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If you had

    DDG
    Federici
    Zabaleta
    Maloney
    Petric
    Fabio

    would you WC???

    also thinkin maybe Yaya and McClean for the chop....

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    1. Smakies
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      yes

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    2. Beamer
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Just took WC... 2 gws went bad just cos ofthese guys...

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        i leading my main mini league....first bad gw. i can field a good team next week with a 4 point hit

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  25. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    You know you've had a bad week when your highest scorer is Schwarzer.

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    1. LeBron - King of Argentina
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Cheer up mate. My week isn't great either...

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    2. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Not if everyone else had got 7 😉

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    3. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Mine is carzola with 5 hahaha

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  26. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    do we think ba will go on a run now of goals?

    europa league worries me along with the initial decision to bench him.

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    1. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      he scored 2 goals!! and played 45 mins less than cisse! he'll start barring injury.. relax

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    2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yes cisse looks off form

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Jesus, of course he won't. Ignore the other knee jerk comments. He's subject to rotation and is fighting for a starting role (unsuccessfully at present). Real life Managers aren't like FPL ones. They make considered decisions.

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  27. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Only managed to field 10 players this week...

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Don't worry, at the end of the season you'll get the 1000 point bonus for Most Apt Team Name.

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      1. Simon69
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        hahahaha

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    2. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Unlucky Syd, things not going your way atm looks like....

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  28. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Of topic but:

    Will Reid, Winston rise twice this week?

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  29. Pangaea
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    My team is suddenly in trouble.

    Jaask (Krul)
    Rangel, Hangeland, Coloccini (Fabio, Clyne)
    Hazard, Kagawa, Yaya, Michu (Noble)
    RVP, Tevez, Graham

    Would love to get in Baines. But would also like to upgrade Graham to Berba/Fletcher.

    Advice?

    I'm thinking Kagawa > Pienaar and Fabio -> Baines. That leaves me 0.1 in the bank.

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  30. Balotellitubbies
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Ade>Berbs done.

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