[sbu_large_image] From The Physio
26 September 2012 2467 comments
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Following on from last week’s debut, it’s time to turn focus to the latest line of injuries with Dan Agger’s leg injury, Samir Nasri’s hamstring and Stephen Ireland’s arm all taking place on my virtual treatment table. I’ll also take time to assess those already under treatment, with Bacary Sagna and Jack Wilshere closing in on a return to action…

New Arrivals

Daniel Agger
The injury to Daniel Agger occurred as the Dane and team-mate Glen Johnson both attempted to thwart the gazelle-like advances of United’s Antonio Valencia, who swiftly and elusively skips between the pair, leaving the two Liverpool players on collision course. Agger, with left leg at full stretch slides in, just as Johnson bears down with his own challenge, connecting with Agger’s knee, just below the joint line with what can be described as a “valgus force”, a specifically angled and levered pressure that, with pace and force, places great stress on the Medial Collateral Ligament (MCL).

Initially we see Agger attempt to get to his feet, where he is unable to put any weight through the affected knee. A further diagnostic clue unfolds as the camera cuts to the physio treating Agger on the ground. We witness the physio applying a valgus and varus stress test to the knee. Immediately after the test, presumably fearing Collateral Ligament damage, the physio calls for a stretcher.

As Agger is carried from the field we are able to witness the stricken player holding his leg on the inside of his thigh and the outside of his ankle, as though applying his own varus pressure, a movement that would minimise MCL stretching and, presumably, ease the pain. It was therefore no surprise to see early indications of a suspected MCL strain. Subsequent reports from Anfield suggest the injury is not as serious as anticipated and diagnose a ‘significant bone bruise with no ligament damage.’

A contusion or bruise is a term often applied to soft-tissue damage. When it is used for bone it usually describes a crush injury to the bone. The hard outer surface compacts into the softer, spongy, shock absorbing inner aspect of the bone. Some medics refer to this type of injury as a type of fracture and one would also expect some soft-tissue damage. Not knowing the depth of the contusion or the extent the injury renders time-scale predictions tricky. “Significant bone bruising” could well render the bone susceptible to fracture and Agger will be under constant review from an Orthopaedic specialist to ensure he returns with minimal risk of re-injury.

Taking Liverpool at their word I feel it would be optimistic for Agger to be in contention for either Norwich or Stoke, although if the injury turns out to be a minor bone contusion and he responds well to treatment, Stoke might well be a possibility.

Samir Nasri
In the 33rd minute of the match between Manchester City and Real Madrid, Samir Nasri, during a rare foray into Real Madrid’s penalty area, can be observed accelerating into space, only to be blindsided and unceremoniously dumped to the ground with a ‘tank’ of a shoulder charge from the Real defender. The blow was harsh and unexpected and curtailed Nasri in full flight. Less than a minute later Nasri can be seen holding the back of his thigh directly over the muscle belly of Biceps Femoris, one of the hamstring group. Thirty seconds later he falls to the ground, again clutching his hamstring in the same area. He then leaves the field with a pronounced gait.

From where Nasri was holding his leg we may infer that he incurred no tendon damage (although tests would be undertaken to confirm this) as he clutched the back of his upper thigh right in the middle of the muscle belly throughout. This is one of the more common areas for hamstrings to tear and given the voluminous blood supply to the muscle, recovery should be much shorter than if the tendons were involved. Personally I feel that Nasri suffered a mild to moderate grade 1 to 2 hamstring strain, meaning only a small cross sectional area of muscle would be involved, with major disruption to the fibres unlikely.

Every patient rehabilitates at a different speed, and transition from one phase to the next will depend upon the severity of the injury and the response to treatment. Two factors can be used to predict the length of time needed for athletes to return to full function from a hamstring strain; the amount of time it takes a player to walk without pain and any previous hamstring injuries suffered, information that I’m not privy to. However, on balance, my instinct is that we could see Nasri grace the City first team approximately three weeks from the date of injury. The Fulham match may come too soon, then, a more realistic return could be when Sunderland roll up to the Etihad on October 6.

Stephen Ireland
The Aston Villa midfielder was taken off at half time at St Mary’s with a suspected broken arm. If x-rays confirm this the length of any absence will depend upon several factors; the category of fracture suffered, if the fracture was complete or in-complete, how much of the bone shaft was affected, the shape or the line of fracture and if the fracture was displaced or in-displaced – do the bone ends still end in opposition or will some type of ‘reduction’ need to be administered. In other words, the severity and type of fracture will dictate likely return scenarios.

From discussions with a physiotherapist who has worked in professional football for a number of years, we can summarise that the extent of the damage will dictate the best line of treatment. If displaced, surgery may be advocated to approximate the bones. If notdisplaced, but x-rays still reveal a full fracture, then a period of immobilisation, usually four weeks, in a plaster cast will be required. Even post four weeks, again, depending on the severity, most clubs will see a further two weeks of healing as necessary to avoid the risk of re-fracture. If not a full fracture, we should still anticipate four weeks as a minimum absence. Again, Ireland will be under constant review by orthopaedic specialists to ensure that the player returns with minimal risk of further injury, so, my gut instinct is three weeks may still be too soon despite being possible.

Under Treatment

Bacary Sagna
On the September 21 Arsenal updated Bacary Sagna’s progress indicating that The Frenchman is one week away from full training.

Arsene Wenger, correctly, has a tradition of nurturing long term injured players back slowly and delicately and when you consider that this is the second fracture of the Fibula that Sagna has incurred in the last eight months, caution is understandable. With this in mind, when full training is resumed on the September 28, it is logical to assume that the medical staff would want to monitor full training for any reactions or latent deficits for a further 10 to 14 days before a return to competitive action would be considered. Factor in performance related fitness and match sharpness and, barring any set-backs, expect him to be physically ready to play some part when Arsenal roll up at Norwich, after the international break, on October 20.

It has to be noted that his rehabilitation, this time, will have taken close to six months, whereas his previous Fibula fracture took four months to heal. He won’t be rushed back prematurely. He is also now 29-years-old and this type of serious injury can leave psychological and physiological scars. An accumulation of injuries can potentially have significant consequences and often leaves its mark mechanically. There is also Carl Jenkinson’s almost match by match improvement to consider. The ex-Charlton starlet is the future of Arsenal, playing well in the present. He is staking a claim and has already laid sturdy foundations. Add into the mix the resolve shown by the Arsenal rearguard this season and we can see quite a conundrum building for “professor” Wenger.

Jack Wilshere
Arsenal were further buoyed with the news of the return to full training of another long-term absentee, Jack Wilshere. A stress fracture to the ankle, hampered by a string of aggravations and set-backs, caused him to miss the previous 14 months.

His physical rehabilitation is now nearing completion and the next stage is to monitor his reactions to full training, which he resumed on the September 20 and taking into consideration the length of absence and Wenger’s penchant for patience and caution with long term injury casualties, it is safe to assume that he will be monitored for reactions before any type of competitive match would be considered. Reports today suggested that Wilshere could feature in Monday’s U21 encounter with West Brom. That may well come too soon – reports also suggest that the Gunners are looking to another U21 fixture, the meeting with Reading on October 8.

You can bet that Wilshere won’t be rushed. All things considered he is still three, probably four weeks away from a first team recall and barring set-backs he should be in contention around the time that Arsenal entertain QPR at the Emirates on October 27.

* Please note, while “From the Physio” offers a unique insight into the injuries that are concerning Fantasy Football managers, such a piece must come with a hefty disclaimer. We might be offering an expert’s view of such injuries but, as with just a remote assessment to go on, the views expressed here should not be taken as gospel or with any certainty. They are, however, hopefully of great interest and arm Fantasy managers with more information to help make their own judgements.

  1. Mind över Mata
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    Tevez and Hazard -> Aguero and Barfa (no hit)

    Yes/no - thanks

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    1. Reed_Rothchild
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      Do it!

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        Thanks mate - you sure about Aguero as lone striker?

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    2. SH1M1
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      no

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        What do you disagree with?

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    3. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      no. not barfa

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        Can't afford Barfa without Haz going...

        Could do Fellaini instead. Or do Fletch/Berbs for Tevez

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        1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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          just do tevez out. give hazard one more chance ,i am in the same boat with hazrd but i may do hazard to silva next week on depending what happens this weekend

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  2. Ings on the up
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    Graham --> Lambert done... feels better 🙂

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  3. tw
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    if you could captain anyone this week who would it be?

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    1. Optimus.
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      captain birdseye

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      1. Bielsa’s bucket
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        (c) Pugwash

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      2. tw
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        ?

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        1. Bielsa’s bucket
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          Captain Morgan?

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    2. Bielsa’s bucket
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      I'm sure its not everyone's choice but i'm saying Jelly

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      1. Demelbrush
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        Baines?

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        1. Demelbrush
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          or Pienaar?

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          1. Bielsa’s bucket
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            Both good, but those two will assist Jelly's hat-trick 😉

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            1. Kenny Dogleash
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              you reckon jelly will play?

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    3. kimoo
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      fletcher my C

      i have rvp and baines

      is that good ?

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    4. Mind över Mata
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      RVP or Aguero

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    5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      Captain Nelsen

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    6. I Am ToTo
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      gerard

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      1. Brutus619
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        + 1 for the major differential.

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    7. vamp persie
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      Burke obviously

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  4. Muniains Tears
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    Any notable injuries tonight in the cup? Just checking before i do my transfers

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    1. Optimus.
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      ridgewell went off with calf injury

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      1. Just A Hat
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        oh ffs

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  5. RedForLife
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    What's happening Gents!

    Ok so my dilemma, need Everton cover. Can get Baines but then im forced to play Puncheon against him & keep Petric for another week (also I believe South will score). Don't want to change any of my mids, so that cuts out Pie & the Fro. Im left looking at a replacement for Petric. My question is who is the best Forward to bring in for Everton? Jelly or Mirallas? Who is most likely to play the more minutes?
    Alternatively I WC....

    Cheers.

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    1. Demelbrush
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      Jelly I think. But also remember that you have 5 mids and expending one of them on FelA&E basically gives you another everton striker. Then again, some say his form won't last.

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    2. Bielsa’s bucket
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      Get Baines in, he's basically an attacking mid anyway (with the chance of a cs). If you're really set on a forward get the Jelly.

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    3. Mull
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      You aren't paying 7m for Everton's clean sheet potential. You are paying 7m because of his attacking threat. Play both Puncheon and Baines.

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      1. RedForLife
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        But you can pay 7.4 Mirallas or 8.4 Jelly for a lot more attacking threat? Understand Baines has the added bonus of a potential CS but I don't think they'll get 1 this week, infact i'll be hoping they don't if I play Puncheon.

        Thanks guys!

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        1. Mull
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          I wouldn't spend that much on an Everton forward when Pienaar and Fellaini are scoring as well as they are. Bring in one of them for GW7 for your worst performing mid.

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      2. @BigChrisso
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        + 42

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    4. RedForLife
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      Ok thanks for all your thoughts. I might just get Baines & Play Puncheon. So tempted to pull the trigger on a WC!

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  6. vamp persie
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    yo gdogg r u still on

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    1. Optimus.
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      no but the grammar police are lurking

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      1. vamp persie
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        yea theres news that a harvard english proffesor is now on the site looking for me. better run for cover

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    2. Demelbrush
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      Sorry if this is rather ignorant, but what's the deal on Dyer. Does he not get a ban after the 2 yellows last weekend?

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      1. Demelbrush
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        Sorry that was meant to be a new topic!

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      2. Bielsa’s bucket
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        He served it in the milk cup last night 😉

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    3. gdog2244
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      yes just got afif 31

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      1. Bielsa’s bucket
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        Is that like a pirated copy, names spelt wrong...a bit like pes?

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        1. gdog2244
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          hahahaha 🙂 no we know each other (we go to school together) and we call it afif

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  7. hazza44
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    Which 2 to play Nelsen (H- West Ham), Demel (A- QPR) and Taylor.S (A-Reading)??

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    1. vamp persie
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      saylor and demel

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      1. Demelbrush
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        +1

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    2. Bielsa’s bucket
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      Saylor and Nelson (usually home advantage wins over in these situations)

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      1. vamp persie
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        yea good point starting to agree with you

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        1. vamp persie
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          then again qpr's defense is as bad as gervinho's forehead is big

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          1. gdog2244
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            +10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

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          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            Not necessarily, they kept a CS against Chelsea recently which aint bad...and that was at home where they are strong.

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            1. Bielsa’s bucket
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              Exactly, they have looked okay in their last two games, also here are the CS odds to underline my point

              QPR 7/4 Whm 3/1

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  8. bmb100
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    Few WC decisions left:

    Nelsen or Gorkss
    Fellaini (tripled up on Everton) or Johnson
    HBA or Yaya
    Sterling or Puncheon

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    1. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      nelson
      johnson
      hba
      neither , get guthrie if this player will be bench fodder

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    2. RedForLife
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      Gorkss
      AJ
      HBA if no Ba
      Sterling

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    3. The Shadow
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      Gorkss, slightly more offensive.
      Fellaini, triple or no, the better scorer.
      HBA, too many 2/3 point weeks from Yaya.
      Flip a coin.

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    4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      I think Fellaini is good for at least the southampton game...I think it's best to monitor Johnson, he will come good but it's too early and he's only come back from injury.

      Most will argue both sides for HBA/Yaya...I've gone HBA as I see him as more naturally attacking and that is practically all he does really.

      Mulling over Nelsen or Gorkss myself, these things don't seem that important but I'm not sure if Nelsen is going to keep his place for long. Gorkss is the safe option as he plays every week and he seems good for a goal...however he plays for Reading who are probably going to concede a lot more freely. If Nelsen was guaranteed starts it'd mean you could have him for QPR's favourable home games where they are hard to beat.

      Puncheon is a decent punt but I'm not sure how nailed on he is. Didn't start the first 2 matches but has looked great so far with 3 assists in so many games. Sterling, oddly for a 17 yr old seems more nailed on. I'm willing to give Sterling a go and hope he does something and as a result rises in price...if Liverpool turn things around he could be a major bargain.

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      1. bmb100
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        Ye had Johnson last two weeks, pretty sure he will come good, just a case of when, think I'll go with triple Everton for now and get him in once he shows signs of form.

        I just hate Newcastle because of Pardew so find it very hard to bring in any of their players, would rather go with Yaya from a personal point of view, prefer City fixtures too.

        Gorkss being nailed on does help, M'Bia played tonight so think Nelsen is on borrowed time.

        Ye also Puncheon is doubling up with Lambert, only thing is if I go Yaya I need Nolan to rise again so I can afford him and Sterling. Think I prefer Sterling.

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  9. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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    who should i play this gw

    demel - qpr [a]
    or
    rangel - stp [a]

    i know swansea aren't doing too well but rangels attacking threat could earn him points this weekend

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    1. Bielsa’s bucket
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      Demel imo, i don't think there will be much for the Swans at Brittania

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      I would probably go Rangel for his attacking threat like you said. Both will find it hard to keep a CS so Rangel's threat might win out.

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      Demel

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    4. RedForLife
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      Demel

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      1. doncastro
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        I have just had a think about whether to play Williams or Demel. Choosing Demel. If it's any help to make this choice Swansea are 10/3 to keep a clean sheet and West Ham are slighty less odds at 3/1

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    5. bmb100
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      Demel has slightly better CS chance I'd say

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      1. doncastro
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        Ahem...

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      2. doncastro
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        Is Tevez staying in your WC team BMB?

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        1. bmb100
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          Nope, going to draft in Aguero instead.

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    6. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
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      cheers guys. opinions appreciated

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  10. hazza44
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    Agureo, Baines, RVP, Berb or HBA captain??

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    1. emperikal
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      Baines or RVP. The latter being the safe choice and the former being the ballsy one!

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    2. bmb100
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      RVP, Spurs won't be able to cope with him, and if Rooney starts and plays like he did tonight RVP's potential goes up even more I'd say.

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  11. SuperMario
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    Best under 4.4m def??

    not including demel

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    1. emperikal
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      Clark / Davies / Nelsen

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    2. NATSTER
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      ^ add Gorkss to that list.

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      1. DownUnder
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        ^ +1

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      2. emperikal
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        Yes definitely

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  12. gdog2244
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    bego or vorm??? i have davies and michu

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    1. vamp persie
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      dont even talk about keepers. get burke into your team. by the way i have tennis tomorrow so c cant play afif 31

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    2. vamp persie
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      jk id go bego for value

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  13. kimoo
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    Hazard , Ben Arfa , Michu , Nolan and (Dyer out Fellaini / Pienaar )

    Fletcher c , Lambert and RVP

    who is bench ????

    dyer on bench and no sub for ( Fellaini / Pienaar )

    or

    do the sub ( Fellaini / Pienaar ) and bench whom ?????

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    1. RedForLife
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      If u have Baines save it.
      If not, get Pie & bench Nolan or Michu.

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      1. kimoo
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        i have baines dude 🙂

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  14. doncastro
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    Last year Tevez was on the bench vs the German team in the champions league (albeit away from home) and refused to come on in that infamous incident...Dzecko started. Anyone give this any significance that he won't play vs Dortmund next week and will vs Fulham?

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    1. vamp persie
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      i hope

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    2. Ryan
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      Add to that fact that he is in his fittest state and you never know. All I know is that there will be a large portion of us who will get this decision wrong come the weekend. I'd say, don't sell if it costs you a hit. And sell if you have a FT spare.

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      1. doncastro
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        I have 3 mil in the bank and this week have done Hazard for Fellaini (c). I can sell Williams too with my other FT for Baines, but it feels like overkill. Very undecided. I could also sell Tevez now for Aguero , but I don't really want to before I see if Aguero does anything this week. Team linked. Any input

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        1. Ryan
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          Its a shame you went for Fellaini as I would have seen your first priority as getting Baines. It probably is overkill now though. My key advice would be to not worry about how much is left in your bank. Just get the players who will score you the most points regardless if it means you are left with 5m in the bank. Don't let the idea of using up all your cash be a deciding factor.

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          1. doncastro
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            Cheers mate. I have also second guessed the decision after sleeping on it. I'm not too concerned with having extra money was just letting you know how much I have to play with but I guess you can see that on my team link anwyays! I may save this transfer to give myself more options next week

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  15. RoysCallerAnne
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    A little comment about Rooney ;
    Discarding the fat/ not fat, ugly/ not ugly, bald/ not bald.........
    I genuinely think he's an absolutely brilliant footballer. He's United's best player since Scholes. His awareness in a game and movement to receive the ball in space and hence ability to pick out a killer pass is sensational. I genuinely feel, at his relatively young age, that he can go to become one of the best "threequarterista" type players in the world.
    Add to this the fact that he can score almost any type of goal makes him a "once in a generation" type of player.
    I think, now that Rooney's back, that RVP will flourish greatly. Of course I am talking from a purely FPL perspective. (I want Man Utd to fail completely at all times). 😉

    *Disclaimer....I post under a completely different pseudonym on a well known LFC forum. Any talk like this would result in me being hung-drawn-quartered. DO NOT try and unveil me anywhere else...thank you.

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    1. DownUnder
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      YNWA?

      And yes, I completely agree with you.

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    2. Ryan
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      Yes I agree. He will certainly go down as one of the greats for United and England. This is assuming he continues to prosper in the years to come.

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    3. Bielsa’s bucket
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      Aye, I think from tonight's display we will see him in that 'triquartista' role a lot more, and will probably be very effective, providing even more for the clinical beast RvP

      *disclaimer...As a long time Leeds supporter If any of my friends we're to hear of such treacherous talk I would also be hung-drawn and quartered 😉

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  16. Ryan
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    Which option is best here. I was mad keen on Ba for a while but the performance on Cisse against United may dampen his appeal

    1FT

    A) Tevez --> Ba
    B) Tevez --> Lambert

    I'm equally excited about Lamberts fixtures but more so after the Everton match

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    1. DownUnder
      • 13 Years
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      Lambert, he seems to be able to score against any team, that be favourable or unfavourable fixtures

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Surely Ba can score against anyone as well? Although this is assuming he stays up top

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    2. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
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      You are going to leave the ship too... Lamb from Gw7 looks interesting indeed.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah I do feel I'm getting Lambert a little too early but I don't want to risk having Tevez in my team. Don't like the idea of having a 9m 50/50 who will play in a team that focuses on defence and will not be the furtherest forward now that Aguero is back. Time to cash in imo

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        1. NATSTER
          • 15 Years
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          It seems the consensus on here.. I would consider him over Ba due to the fixtures and form. As he could score against anyone and you are sure with idea of selling Tevez, I think you probably need to get him before the 3:15am. Otherwise, you will have to pay 0.1m more.

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          1. Ryan
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            • 14 Years
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            Yeah I know the price changes are due soon. Just needed the blessing of the DZ first 😉 As for Tevez it seems the decision is between him and Lambert. I think its a 50/50 call and I could be very wrong come the weekend. However what I'm not wrong about is that Citeh will surely focus more on defence in the coming weeks and Aguero could also affect Tevez's output as he will surely lead the attack. I think there is enough risk to safely say its worth spending the FT. I would even say that Lambert is capable of matching Tevez's returns.

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  17. DownUnder
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Best Captaincy choice from the Following:

    1. Berba
    2. RvP
    3. Sterling
    4. Fernandez Saez
    5. Julio Cesar ( I just think he's going to get saves and a clean sheet)
    6. Hazard
    7. Cazorla
    8. Fellaini

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Berbatov

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    2. doncastro
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Time for bed

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      1. Demelbrush
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        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Fell or RVP

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      2. DownUnder
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Not in Australia mate, its 10:28 AM

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    3. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The big top takes it- 8

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    4. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      RvP. There are few really good options this week. Fellaini is a close bet and is deserving of the VC but the constant threat of dropping deeper would prevent me from giving him the armband.

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      1. DownUnder
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I think its just my intuition playing in. I seem to have a grudge against captaining a midfielder, despite being a scoring attacking midfielder

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        1. Ryan
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          • 14 Years
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          Yeah I'm always nervous when I captain a midfielder but not when I captain a striker.

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          1. DownUnder
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Everyone's talking up how Hazard's going down once the EPL teams get a grasp on his playing style, but I still see him as a great option :S

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          2. DownUnder
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            btw your a kiwi?

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            1. Ryan
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              • 14 Years
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              Yeah mate.

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    5. bmb100
      • 14 Years
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      Any list ever with Cesar and Suso as genuine captaincy options doesn't deserve a response.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 14 Years
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        This is sort of a paradox though...you replying 😀

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        1. bmb100
          • 14 Years
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          A response to the question :p

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      2. DownUnder
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Despite the fact that Cesar is one of the best goalkeepers in the world, has a pretty favourable fixture and probably get 2pts for 90mins, +4 points for cleansheet, and if theres enough saves another +1/2 pts. On average he's got more points per game than Torres.

        And Suso also has some pretty fine fixtures coming up, he's going to play whilst Borini is out and could provide assists for Suarez. He's got great vision for an 18 yr old chap.

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    6. Billy Ketsu
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      RVP. Spurs haven't scored at Old Trafford since 1927 and they haven't won there since 1843. Or something.

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        😆

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      2. NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Umm.. I think RvP has never scored against Spurs at Old Trafford too. 😛

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        1. DownUnder
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Probably because Arsenal didnt play against the Spurs at Old Trafford

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      3. DownUnder
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        wow, didnt know that. I guess you learn something new everyday 🙂

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      4. Rafabio
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        They scored their three times. Twice in the EPL and once in the 4th round of the FA Cup for 2008/9...

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    7. emperikal
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Fernandez Saez (C)

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      1. DownUnder
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Genuinely?

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  18. Demelbrush
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    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    What defenders should I pick for this GW? - Demel, Jenkison, Hughes, Baines (obviously he's in), Lescott

    Cheers

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  19. Orange Thunder
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Tevez -> Suarez

    Madness. Or GENIUS?

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      ballsy!

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    2. Demelbrush
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      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      madness

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    3. Mind över Mata
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      • 14 Years
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      Probably madness, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering it

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    4. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Could work out, although I think next week would be a better time to make that particular transfer.

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      1. Orange Thunder
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Despite his hattrick against Norwich last year?

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        1. Bielsa’s bucket
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Relying on such statistics would be folly, both have different managers, players and styles of playing.

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          1. Orange Thunder
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Haha, I know. It still holds a small bit of weight.

            I've decided to go with Hazard -> Gerrard over Tevez -> Suarez.

            The next week will be even more interesting. Thinking Tevez -> Lambert. Sterling -> Yaya/Oscar. Depending on all their perfomances, ofc.

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    5. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I would err to the side of madness.

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    6. emperikal
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I've contemplated it very seriously. IF I hadn't done my FT transfer already I may have done it but I've decided to grit my teeth and be patient

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      1. Orange Thunder
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        It's very tempting isn't it!

        Or would be put more faith in Gerrard? i.e. Hazard -> Gerrard

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        1. emperikal
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Liverpool haven't shown any real form though to be fair making the decision a little more difficult. Playing just the fixtures can get you burned sometimes. I do like the Gerrard punt as well though tbh. On penalties and set pieces and unlike Suarez knows how to bury it in the net!

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          1. Orange Thunder
            • 14 Years
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            Yeah, alright. I think I'm gonna go for Gerard. At the end of the week though, it looks like his price may drop before then.

            Also, there's also the fact that Suarez has the tendency to dive and get carded.
            In saying that, I'll be kicking myself if Suarez scores a brace.

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            1. emperikal
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Haha I can believe that. A high risk - high reward player in real life and in fantasy as well! Think I'll avoid that headache for now until he proves he can be consistent.

              Good luck with the Gerrard punt 😉

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              1. Orange Thunder
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Definitely. Suarez is essentially a hated version of Balotelli!

                Thanks mate, should make for an interesting weekend.

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  20. Mind över Mata
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Tevez to Berbs, Fletch or Ba

    Apologies if this has been covered 1000 times today

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    1. doncastro
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      The concensus has been Berbs. But a lot who have Fletcher are going (c) this week. Fletcher probs your best shout this week but going forward Berbs

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      1. Mind över Mata
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        • 14 Years
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        Thanks mate, have 2FTs so might have a punt on Fletch (c) this week, then change for Berbs afterwards.

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Berbs would be the favourite out of that lot. His stats are brilliant. Think of him as Fulhams new Dempsey except he plays as an out and out striker every game.

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    3. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
      • 14 Years
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      berbs

      -he has set pieces over the other two [pens & free kicks]
      - more likely to play then ba [who could also play europa league which could mean fatigue]
      - i know this is a long way away but did senegal qualify for african nations? could mean he[ba] could miss january and would lose profit to sell him for a playing player
      - fletcher has Man City (A) Newcastle (H)Stoke City (A)after wigan at home , but he does have a dgw on the horizon

      just some thoughts to help

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      1. Orange Thunder
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Question, when exactly is this DGW?

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        1. doncastro
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Double gameweek. Where the team has 2 fixtures that combine for the player's points for the week

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          1. Orange Thunder
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Sorry, when is it?
            I can't seem to find it on their fixtures, is all. I realise it's due to that earlier RDG vs SUN game being postponed- but to when?

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            1. doncastro
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              We don't know yet

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              1. Orange Thunder
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Ah, I see. Cheers.

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          2. Biggerlips
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I think he was asking when it was, not what it was.

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            1. doncastro
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              I see that now ha. My last two posts I have typo's and totally different words also. Time for bed...

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        2. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          i would assume soon. they cant leave it too long surely

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      2. gledy
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Fletcher could be on pens for Sunderland, easily.

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        1. TeamSteam
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          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Larson is. 100%.

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  21. Billy Ketsu
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all

    Which combi would you prefer:

    A) Silva & Ba

    B) HBA & Tevez

    Planning a few possible transfers for GW8. Just in case, like.

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Tough one. I would avoid both Silva and Tevez at this stage. Out of Ba and HBA I would prefer HBA just because Cisse is bound to find his mojo at some point.

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      1. vamp persie
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        -1

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        1. vamp persie
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          sorry i meant only - 1/2 because avoiding silva and tevez is necessary but id go ba over HBA

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          1. Ryan
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            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Fair enough. Short term I would say Ba is the better option as well. But for me I'm not sure about his long term prospects if Cisse finds serious form.

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    2. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Tricky one, there's a lot of people saying Tevez will get reduced minutes now Aguero's back, and Silva's minutes aren't exactly nailed on either. I would probably go with B from those two.

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Agree with Ryan on City players atm and find it hard to judge 2GWs 3 weeks and internationals to play in advance.
      All things worth considering. But I wouldn't want to venture an opinion with so much happening in between.

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    4. Billy Ketsu
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks for the replies guys. I have Tevez & HBA now, I was just wondering about a switch to the other pair:

      Foster Bego

      Rafael Baines Cuellar* Clyne Gorkss

      Santi Bale Puncheon Silva Pienaar

      RVP Ba Berbatov

      Just tinkering and I rather like the look of that.

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  22. In Like Flynn.
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I don't like Clattermole out till 27th of October. I think it exposes their defence.

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    1. Billy Ketsu
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      They're probably used to it by now, though.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Haha, I was just sat here thinking the same thing.

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    2. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I agree, I'm playing Maloney and Boyce this w/e ahead of Guthrie and Gunter.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Good idea. I've no players in the game. It was just an idle thought that drifted through.

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      2. gledy
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Maloney 2 points.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Nice one, thanks.

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          1. gledy
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Just being real, sorry. (BTW have Maloney on my bench)

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Cattermole actually books holidays in advance before the season knowing he will be out for 3 weeks at some point

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  23. vamp persie
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    im bored

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  24. vamp persie
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    HESKEY TIME!!!!!!

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    1. bakayoko
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      ahahahah downing ia the new heskey now since he left to australia

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  25. DT42
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I have 1.6m to spend this week which is exactly enough for either
    Pog to Fletcher
    Or Gibbs to Baines
    .. If I do it today!

    Reluctant to ditch Gibbs but I feel the Baineswagon is too tasty to miss right now, then again I want to ditch Pog and Lambert looks like he could score against anyone

    Help!

    Full team is
    Foster. Jaask
    Gibbs. Ivo. Demel. Gorkss. Hughes
    Hazard. Bale. Santi. Sterling. Peanut
    RVP. Ba. Pog

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    1. bakayoko
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      baines or fellaini for sure

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  26. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    good article....but i expected some appologize over jelavic injuree....

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    1. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Why would he apologise for that? Also there is a disclaimer at the bottom of the article which kind of explains such matters.

      Personally I didn't really find too much useful info in this physio report, there were other players I was hoping for info on.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      What did Facer have to do with his injury?

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  27. Claret14
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Does this can of transfer policy usually end in disaster? One of my league rivals

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/244538/history/

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    1. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Must have some wobbly knees and itchy fingers, seems to be holding it together atm though.

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    2. doncastro
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Judging by his season positino stats I'd say it's very clear :D. On a more serious note all the consistent top performers rarely waste 4 points unless forced to with injuries or a risk they think might may off in a DGW

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      1. doncastro
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        position stats* that should read

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  28. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Kind of annoyed that if I'd known at the start of the week I was getting rid of Tevez I would have got in Lambert to make a bit of money...he'll hardly get another rise before the weekend...or will he? :/

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    1. Claret14
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Thursday, Friday and Saturday must be busy days - good chance he will go up

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      1. Bielsa’s bucket
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah, transfers usually pick up closer to deadline.

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  29. kimoo
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    what do u think to triple on swans players for gw 7 and 8 ?

    vorm , dyer and michu

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I try not to make transfers for very short periods.

      I've tried it in the past, and something disasterous always happens elsewhere in my squad as well and I end up taking hits to sort the whole thing out.

      But if you have no other way to improve things and everyone is fit and first choice. It could earn you a very decent score.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Since you'll be replacing Fed with Vorm and you have the others, it looks fine.

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    3. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It would be a risky move considering form atm.

      I think you would have to have Graham if you played this strategy. Scores a majority of his goals at home vs lower level teams.

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  30. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Awesome - FISO CTC confirms Cazorla isn't rising tonight. Going up too slow, will be almost 500 short. Only riser is Lambert. Had brief mad desire to bring him in, but looks like Fletcher or (gulp) Suarez now.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 14 Years
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      I brought in Caz just to be certain and anyway I was just delaying the inevitable. Do you think Lambert could rise again after tonight before the weekend?

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        You mean Friday 3am or Saturday 3am? Definitely on Saturday 3am. Scoring 2 goals is always well popular with buyers. He's cheap too. Worse still I think he was in the dream team hencechigh visibility...

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    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Get Lambert Isacki. Surely he is better than the other two

      Quick summary

      Fletcher - few chances but makes the most of them
      Suarez - tons of chances but wastes them
      Lambert - gets plenty enough chances, tends to make the most of them. Also has set pieces and FK's and knows how to assist unlike Fletcher.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah nice one, I do wonder if Southampton can keep up this kind of attack though. Is there any possibility they are overachieving up front right now? I asked the question earlier, can we see Lambert scoring at Everton this week? Cos if not, it's difficult for me to make this transfer.

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        1. Ryan
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Most will say he can. His performances and that of Southampton against the manchester clubs have proved they can be this years Blackpool

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