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9 October 2012 1269 comments
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For the first time in the current league campaign, Sir Alex Ferguson fielded both Wayne Rooney and Robin Van Persie in the same starting XI for United’s trip to Newcastle last Sunday. The pair had clicked in the previous game on Champions League duty, with Rooney teeing up the Dutchman for both his side’s goals in the 2-1 win over CFR Cluj and while Van Persie failed to fire against the Magpies, Rooney continued to revel in a more withdrawn role after providing another pair of assists in the 3-0 win.

Intriguingly, this was the first time Ferguson has rolled out his new diamond formation in the league. With Michael Carrick at the base, Shinji Kagawa and Tom Cleverley played right and left respectively, while Rooney tucked in behind Van Persie and Danny Welbeck. Post-match, the United boss talked up the success of his new formation:

“I wanted to try the diamond again after some success against Cluj, which is not an easy place to go to, and against Newcastle in the Capital One Cup…We played so well on Tuesday against a decent team. People look at the name Cluj and say they expect United to win, but they are a decent side. And because we played so well on Tuesday, I thought we should find out how far we can go with that diamond system.”

Looking at United’s respective shapes over the past couple of games, there’s a significant difference. From left to right and from front to back, in particular, there are far fewer spaces in between for opponents to thrive in. Ferguson’s default 4-4-2 formation was picked apart by Spurs in the previous match, with Gareth Bale’s second for the visitors indicative of just how stretched the Red Devils can be when opponents win possession and quickly counter-attack.

United v Spurs GW6
United v Newcastle GW7

In the Tottenham match (above left), Andre Villas-Boas’ side were savvy enough to exploit the space behind Rio Ferdinand (5) and Jonny Evans (6) but Ferguson’s tactics against Newcastle (above right) saw the central defensive pairing sit deeper and nullify the home side’s threat.

Prior to Sunday’s match, United’s problems at the back meant they had opened the scoring just once in their first six matches. Back in Gameweek 4, they cruised to a 4-0 home win over Wigan and, having grabbed the lead through Jonny Evans at St James’ Park, United registered their second clean sheet of the campaign in a comfortable 3-0 triumph. With Patrice Evra adding a second soon after, the visitors established a two-goal cushion within the first 15 minutes of the Toon tussle and quickly set about dominating the match.

Maybe it was a case of sitting back and protecting their lead but there seems no doubt the system afforded the recently-maligned backline greater protection. Analysing United’s overall involvement in each of their seven league matches so far, though, there was a definite downturn in their forward forays on Sunday.

PossessionTouchesTchs Opp Half% Tchs Opp HalfTchs Final 3rd% Tchs Final 3rd
GW170.1%93546950%27229%
GW260%84449158%31737%
GW354.7%84939546%20424%
GW452.2%66834050%23333%
GW547.8%69130744%15121%
GW674.2%95255258%29130%
GW755.7%77227836%11414%

While United bossed the proceedings with 55.7% possession, only 278 of their total touches came inside the Magpies’ half – their least of the season. In three of their previous six matches, Ferguson’s side had less possession, yet in all of those fixtures they were in more advanced positions when on the ball. In the Gameweek 3 win at Southampton, they had 54.7% possession, yet 395 touches were inside the Saints’ half, while the same applies to Gameweek 4 at home to Wigan (52.2% and 340 respectively) and Gameweek 5 at Liverpool (47.8% and 307).

Looking at the final third touches, United had just 114 on Sunday – again, their lowest of the campaign. This means that just 14% of their total touches were made inside this crucial area; although they doubled this percentage in four out of the previous six matches, Ferguson was more than happy as to how his side were able to control Sunday’s match:

“The diamond closes off the midfield. The only problem is when the ball goes out wide, how far your midfield gets separated. If you try to keep it tight in the centre of the field, then the opposition have to go wide. Okay, we took a gamble today because Newcastle are so big up front and they’re good crossers of the ball. But the football we played from the central midfield positions through Cleverley, Kagawa, Rooney and Carrick was terrific.”

Crosses ForCrosses AgainstTotal Succ Cross% Succ CrossChances Created
GW13418617.6%9
GW23715513.5%15
GW32415520.8%15
GW43018723.3%13
GW51826633.3%6
GW643749.3%12
GW71438321.4%10

Once again, the statistics back up Ferguson’s comments here. United had managed fewer crosses than their opponents in just one of the six previous matches, with Liverpool delivering 26 balls from out wide at Anfield (in comparison to the visitors’ 18) back in Gameweek 5. United produced an incredible 43 crosses against Spurs in their last home game, with Villas-Boas’ side making a mere seven, but last Sunday the situation was turned on its head.

Afforded plenty of width on the flanks, Alan Pardew’s men provided 38 crosses, with United managing a mere 14 – their lowest tally of the season. Their total of three successful crosses was also the least in any given Gameweek thus far but this equated to a 21.4% accuracy – their third highest rate of the campaign. Overall, it’s fair to say that United’s delivery from the flank has been disappointing; with only four of those 43 crosses against Spurs proving successful.

Ferguson could well be looking for a little more guile and intricacy to his team’s play. With ball-playing individuals like Kagawa and Van Persie brought on board, perhaps there’s less need for delivery into the box – United still
created 10 chances against Newcastle, with the stats above highlighting the fact that they don’t need to continually pump balls into the penalty area to provide goalscoring opportunities.

RVP Average Positions

Finally, it’s impossible to overlook the effect this new system had on Van Persie – in particular, his average position when on the ball. As the graphic highlights, the Dutchman was far deeper when on the ball in comparison to the previous six Gameweeks. While he mirrored his previous average for minutes per touch, Van Persie had just 15 touches in the final third, considerably down on his previous 24 for Gameweeks 1-6; on a more optimistic note, however, his penalty box touches (5.5 to four) weren’t too dissimilar.

Although Newcastle did well to shackle the Dutchman and reduce the former Arsenal man to a single attempt, Van Persie’s creativity took a turn for the better – he created a goalscoring opportunity every 29 minutes against Pardew’s men, well up on his average of 54.5 from his first six appearances.

Mins/TchTchs Final 3rdPass Rcvd Final 3rdPen Box TchsMins/AttemptMins/Chance Created
RVP GW1-622415.75.525.654.5
RVP GW72151245729

While the tactical spotlight has mainly centred on Chelsea since the arrival of Eden Hazard and Oscar, United’s shift of system over these last few games certainly hints at another evolution under Ferguson. Whether it’s to protect the shaky defence or find a solution to integrate the two summer signings alongside Rooney or perhaps a combination of both, the diamond affords a definite alternative to the usual 4-4-2 and gives United another dimension to their style of play as Ferguson attempts to wrestle the title back from Roberto Mancini’s City.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2012/13 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. JT's Dog
      13 years, 2 months ago

      I would say first but probably to true

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      1. JT's Dog
          13 years, 2 months ago

          This is my third time , do I get a soccer A.M. Ball?

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      2. Caine & Co.
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        Oooo

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      3. Evans
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        Any ideas

        Foster ( cerny)

        Cole, Verm, baines, ( Clyne) ( Nelson)
        Carzola, Michu, Gerrard, pienaar, el Ahmadi
        Ba, Defoe, tevez

        2ft
        1.9m

        I know I want to have berbatov

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        1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
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          13 years, 2 months ago

          Cerny to Begovic Defoe to Berbs if you want to get him, but I think making sure you have a second playing keeper should be your main priority

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        2. Feed tha Sheep
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          13 years, 2 months ago

          Cerny for someone

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      4. MountainBeach
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        david silva/bale and guthrie (-4) or michu and pienaar i have aguero in my team aswell btw! thanks guys

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        1. DRIZ ✅
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          13 years, 2 months ago

          mich pie

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      5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        My God! This is too much for my poor brain!!! 😀

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
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          13 years, 2 months ago

          Fergies new formation forces their opponents to play a wide game as he reckons his defence can deal with crosses well.

          Thats about it

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      6. Conrad.
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        13 years, 2 months ago

        Watchlist updated it seems.

        To that end, is Wilson not a better Stoke D rep? He's avg'd more shots and key passes than Huth has this season...

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      7. JT's Dog
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Excellent article, lots of food for thought

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        • Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          But remember, Diamond formations are not forever.

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          1. Conrad.
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            13 years, 2 months ago

            throw your diamonds in the sky if u feel the vibe!

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          2. Scroobius Mac
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            And a Christmas Tree formation isn't just for Christmas.

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            1. Shaps
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              13 years, 2 months ago

              Unless its a disposable tree formation

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          3. JT's Dog
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Another classic

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          4. Bryan Roy
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            13 years, 2 months ago

            Don't know what to do with my team, slowly dropping down.

            I don't know whether to sub 1, sub loads or stick... defence is woeful but can't do much with it!

            1 free sub. 0.1 in the bank. WC already used.

            Jussi (beg)
            Demel Jenkinson Rafeal (Bertrand Clyne)
            Hazard Fellaini Bale Santi (Sterling)
            Berba RVP Tevez

            any help!!!???

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            1. Paul
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              13 years, 2 months ago

              u know ur team is good for the weekend!!!...stop trolling!!

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          5. DRIZ ✅
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            13 years, 2 months ago

            Is Demba Ba essential at this moment?

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              13 years, 2 months ago

              Bemba Da is OMG essential.

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              1. DRIZ ✅
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                13 years, 2 months ago

                lol 😀

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              2. Royal5
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                13 years, 2 months ago

                ^^^

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            2. JT's Dog
                13 years, 2 months ago

                No

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              • Corrigan
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                13 years, 2 months ago

                possibly the Leighton Baines of defence

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            3. Holy See
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              13 years, 2 months ago

              I read all that. Selling RVP now, it'll all end in tears. Berbatov's nearly half his sodding price now, getting him no fears. Mad world.

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              1. Sickboy
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                • 16 Years
                13 years, 2 months ago

                To be fair the stats indicated that RVP is actually creating more chances.

                I'll be keeping hold of him, especially bearing in mind he is at home to Stoke next match. His statistics over the years in terms of points per game are frightening.

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                1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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                  13 years, 2 months ago

                  *At home to one of the best defences in the league

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                  1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                    13 years, 2 months ago

                    at home yes. Away Stoke are not quite as fearsome. That being said, I'm not captaining RvP this week

                    Given the way my captaincy choices have gone so far, this means he is nailed on for a hat-trick

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                2. Holy See
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                  13 years, 2 months ago

                  'Creating more chances' is relative to creating sod all in the 1st 6 game weeks tho. I'll prob keep him, but to have 3 chances against a ram-shackle Newcastle ain't impressive.

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                  1. Sickboy
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                    • 16 Years
                    13 years, 2 months ago

                    All fair points but having seen him in the flesh a number of times this season, his movement is world class and he'll end up scoring lots of goals for MUFC.

                    Especially with Rooney now helping to create these chances for him.

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            4. Icerock
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              13 years, 2 months ago

              Brilliant article, so insightful

              Many thanks!

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            5. Dago
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              13 years, 2 months ago

              Repost from previous article

              Can I get some help with my wildcard midfield please? Im convinced on most of it, the big question mark is Mata, his forms great but fixtures are not. Theres some cheaper options like Nolan and Michu this gameweek that spring to mind, who could score great. I want to use my FT to alter forwards over the coming weeks, so I want to just have a solid midfield and work around it. Is this a good plan? and I should just leave as is.

              Bale Cazorla Pienaar Mata Sterling

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              1. JT's Dog
                  13 years, 2 months ago

                  You re really struggling with this aren't you?

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                  1. Dago
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                    13 years, 2 months ago

                    Big time, wildcards doing my head in. Mini league is destroying me, getting terroriised by a couple of mates, who are 50 plus points ahead.

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                    1. JT's Dog
                        13 years, 2 months ago

                        The Nolan one could prove interesting, but if thinking long term pick mata and ride out his hard games approaching.

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                  2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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                    13 years, 2 months ago

                    Great midfield. Leave it alone

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                • HuttonDressedasLahm
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                  13 years, 2 months ago

                  So Utd allowed 38 crosses @ Newcastle...........

                  Huth FTW!!

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                  1. DRIZ ✅
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 2 months ago

                    he will stamp those crosses

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                  2. JT's Dog
                      13 years, 2 months ago

                      Not many hit targets though as they didn't have a lot of time to pick out Ba, may have been plan to force them out wide and pressure crosser. After spurs the realised pace through the middle hurts them

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                      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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                        13 years, 2 months ago

                        Well if you look at Rafael and Nani's positions, it was a pretty obvious tactic!

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                        1. JT's Dog
                            13 years, 2 months ago

                            Nani?

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                            1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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                              13 years, 2 months ago

                              No17 right? Played v Spurs?

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                              1. JT's Dog
                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                  Sorry thought you are talking about Sunday, explains hole comment now

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                                  1. JT's Dog
                                      13 years, 2 months ago

                                      *whole

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                        2. JT's Dog
                            13 years, 2 months ago

                            Would be nice to know stats for cleverly. Been thinking he is cheap way into man utd midfield. More so with his advanced role on Sunday.

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                            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                              • 13 Years
                              13 years, 2 months ago

                              He won't score flukey cross-shots every game you know...

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                              1. JT's Dog
                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                  Think he had 5 or 6 good shooting chances, lampardesk type role

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                                  1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                    • 13 Years
                                    13 years, 2 months ago

                                    That's all well and good and I can see it happening like that...but he's still going to be rotated and not anywhere near one of the teams main attacking threats.

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                              2. Dago
                                • 15 Years
                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                your be struggling too if your thinking about Cleverly.

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                                1. JT's Dog
                                    13 years, 2 months ago

                                    A bit, just thinking he may throw in some good assist points and odd goal if more advanced, would be to replace michu and would be bit different from standard

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                              3. Chu Young Ping Pong
                                • 13 Years
                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                Is Sopranos any good?

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                                1. lazybones18
                                  • 15 Years
                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                  AWESOME SHOW!!!!

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                                2. DRIZ ✅
                                  • 14 Years
                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                  great series up there with the best.

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                                3. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                  • 15 Years
                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                  Best TV show of all time.

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                                4. JT's Dog
                                    13 years, 2 months ago

                                    Best show ever but you have to stay Lola to it, a lot of story time in episodes, so if into current 1 hour crime dramas it won't suit

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                                    1. JT's Dog
                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                        Loyal

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                                    2. Bubbles
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                                      13 years, 2 months ago

                                      Yes. Very, VERY good.

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                                    3. r0nh
                                      • 14 Years
                                      13 years, 2 months ago

                                      It is kinda like the gangsta films; Godfather, Casino, Scarface etc.

                                      I like it, but I think Eastenders is better.

                                      I love Pat Butcher.

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                                      1. JT's Dog
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Or nothing like them

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                                          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                            • 15 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            He's missed out the one it's probably most similar to, Goodfellas. Although it's not all that similar...

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                                      2. Corrigan
                                        • 14 Years
                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                        Took one or two to get into it then I was hooked.

                                        I'm breaking your balls! 😉

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                                    4. Lloyd Xmas
                                      • 14 Years
                                      13 years, 2 months ago

                                      Rooney,Suarez,Berbatov front 3 anyone?

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                                      1. Dago
                                        • 15 Years
                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                        Aguero Suarez Berba

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                                      2. lazybones18
                                        • 15 Years
                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                        aguero-RVP-BA

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                                      3. DRIZ ✅
                                        • 14 Years
                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                        RVP aguero suarez for now

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                                        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                                          • 16 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Torres Suarez Berbatov Aguero Ba RVP for me 😉

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                                      4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                        • 13 Years
                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                        RVP Ba/Jelavic Berbatov

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                                        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 14 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          +1

                                          I have RvP, Jelavic, Berba atm

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                                          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Lucky man...or rather...smart man...I have RVP Fletch Ba...it was always the plan to get rid of Fletch but I'm mulling over my options right now...

                                            I want to keep Ba because his fixtures are good soon...I could do Fletch > Berba this week but I'm wondering if it's a good idea to take out an in-form striker before a home game...thoughts?

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                                            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                              • 14 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              Fletcher is an interesting one. His goals to shots ratio is so crazy he surely can't maintain it. That being said I'd be more inclined to keep Ba anyway, he's likely to be on pens (him or HBA, but I'd back Ba) and unlike Fletcher, he can pull a goal out of nowhere.

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                                              1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                                • 13 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                I'm not sure if I entirely agree with Fletcher not being able to pull goals out of nowhere...I get what you mean about Ba because his goals are just amazing when he pulls them off...because they're unexpected...but if you look at some of Fletcher's goals so far they're really out of nothing too. I think he got this from being starved for chances at Wolves!

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                                                1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                  • 14 Years
                                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                                  but Ba is capable of more than Fletcher in terms of making something from nothing. Plus Fletcher will not be on pens. It will likely be Larsson or AJ.

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                                                  1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                                    • 13 Years
                                                    13 years, 2 months ago

                                                    True, I do favour Ba in that respect...the downside to having Ba is basically Cisse...if he starts scoring which is inevitable then he becomes less desirable. But it does seem like Ba is favoured right now as the main man up front...Cisse being subbed off for Ameobi a case in point..

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                                                  2. JT's Dog
                                                      13 years, 2 months ago

                                                      Do Sunderland get in the box often enough for penalties

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                                                      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                                        • 13 Years
                                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                                        Good one... 😀

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                                        2. Lloyd Xmas
                                          • 14 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          £28.5 million budget.

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                                          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                                            • 16 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Ah, parameters!

                                            Aguero Suarez Fletcher/Berbatov(if fit)

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                                            1. Lloyd Xmas
                                              • 14 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              Appears no takers for Rooney then.
                                              Cheers all

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                                        3. maaaaloney
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 13 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Berb, Carroll, Giroud

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                                      5. HuttonDressedasLahm
                                        • 16 Years
                                        13 years, 2 months ago

                                        From a totally football supporter point of view, what is you favourite formation, and why??

                                        Personally I loved the 3-4-1-2 sported by Italy in Euro 2000. With the right players it can be so solid, and also so attacking

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                                        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                          • 13 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          The 4-3-3 Barcelona/Spain play in Fifa12...that's my two cents

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                                          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                                            • 16 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Barca hardly actually play with a back 4 to be fair.
                                            Its more like 2-4-1-3

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                                            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                              • 13 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              True...the Spain one is more 4-3-3 in Fifa because Ramos and Arbeloa are hardly as good as wing backs. Alba should be pretty good in the new one.

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                                              1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                                                • 16 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                Though v Madrid it was a 0-4-6

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                                        2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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                                          • 14 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          4-3-3 when the forward 3 is a central striker and two out and out wingers (guys like Kevin Sheedy, tony daly and going back more, john Robertson)

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                                          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
                                            • 16 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Though a 4-4-2 with "proper" (not Downing) wingers can be great

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                                          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Villa Messi Iniesta

                                            Iniesta Villa Navas

                                            Silva Torres Cazorla

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                                        3. JT's Dog
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            I liked Scotland's 5-4-1-0 against Croatia. Made first goal scorer easier choice

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                                        4. floydy_floyd
                                          • 15 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Is my team poor? I'm getting sick of it.

                                          Bego juski

                                          Baines saylor ridgewell Davies cuellar

                                          Michu bale Fellaini hba Guthrie

                                          Aguero RvP lambert

                                          1.3 in bank doing lambert to berba.

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                                          1. DRIZ ✅
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            team is fine.

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                                          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Not particularly no.

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                                          3. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Team fine I would prioritise Guthrie to Sterling over Lambert to Berbs though

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                                        5. Moves Like Agger
                                          • 15 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Need some help in making some money off my WC. Which of the following players would you say will rise in price again before the deadline:
                                          Ivanovic, Rafael, Jenkinson, Routledge and Crouch.

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                                          1. maaaaloney
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Banking on Rafa Routledge Aguero Santi Suarez

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                                        6. Feed tha Sheep
                                          • 13 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Who is the best 5.0 defender short term

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                                          1. maaaaloney
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                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            wisdom is 4.5

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                                        7. director
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                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Lads disaster of a week, 29 points when you factor in hits! have to look at dirty red arrows for 2 weeks now!

                                          Which option do you think is best..

                                          a) guthrie & federici ---> sterling & begovic (0 in bank) - 4point hit

                                          b)guthrie ------> maloney (0 left)

                                          c)lambert--------> berbatov (0 left)

                                          Ideally I don't want to spend 4 points on option a but I want begovic to work in tandem with foster and I expect either sterling or begovic to rise at some stage over the break.

                                          I haven't really seen much of Maloney this season but I like how advanced he plays up the pitch

                                          Appreciate any help...

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                                          1. maaaaloney
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                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            B+C -4

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                                            1. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                              • 15 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              That's unpossible.

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                                              1. maaaaloney
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                                                • 13 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                both must be done. they can wait a week for the Maloney transfer as i mentioned before he's allergic to wales

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                                                1. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                                  • 15 Years
                                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                                  If Guthrie to Maloney leaves 0 in the bank, and Lambert to Berbatov leaves 0 in the bank, then he can't do both...

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                                                  1. maaaaloney
                                                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                    • 13 Years
                                                    13 years, 2 months ago

                                                    then he needs to free up cash next week

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                                                  2. Scroobius Mac
                                                    • 14 Years
                                                    13 years, 2 months ago

                                                    He can if Berba drops and none of others do.

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                                                    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                                      • 15 Years
                                                      13 years, 2 months ago

                                                      Guthrie to Maloney leaves 0 in the bank.

                                                      How can he then do Lambert to Berba, whether Berba is 0.7 or 0.6 more than Lambert?

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                                        8. Syd.
                                          • 16 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Point of order...

                                          United does not have a Diamond in their midfield 😉

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                                          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Dembe... oh wait, he was playing FOR THE OTHER SIDE 😡

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                                            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                              • 13 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              Dembe Ba?

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                                              1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                                • 14 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                Dembele

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                                        9. OSGOOD WAS GOOD
                                          • 13 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Bale to Caz
                                          yes or no

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                                          1. An Púca
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            no

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                                        10. Blue Teets
                                          • 16 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          What to do with Zabaleta ???

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                                          1. DRIZ ✅
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            keep

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                                          2. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                            • 15 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Richards being back can't be a good thing.

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                                        11. Mr. Mystic
                                          • 14 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Foster -- Begovic

                                          Gibbs -- Baines -- Olsson -- Nelsen -- Demel

                                          Cazorla -- Bale -- Fellaini -- Michu, -- Sterling

                                          RVP -- Ba -- Fletcher

                                          0.1 Mil in Bank

                                          What changes could you recommend to me over International Break guys? 😀 Thankyou.!

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                                          1. vamp persie
                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            maybe fletch to berba otherwise looks good

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                                        12. jimski
                                          • 14 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Blimey, did you know there's a player yet to reach 10 points *in total* this season who has an ownership of 18%? 15th most owned player in the game.

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                                          1. vamp persie
                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            who??? Joe allen maybe

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                                          2. DRIZ ✅
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            komps

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                                            1. vamp persie
                                              • 13 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              ohhhh of course. also shocked his price has only dropped 0.1

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                                              1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                                • 13 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                It's because so many casuals/non-players have him...haven't bothered to look at their team since GW1

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                                                1. jimski
                                                  • 14 Years
                                                  13 years, 2 months ago

                                                  Takes an incredible number of transfers out for him for each drop too.

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                                            2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                                              • 13 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              +1 has to be him

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                                          3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            komps?

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                                            1. jimski
                                              • 14 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              Yep.

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                                              1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
                                                • 14 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                i think hell start rackin up points soon

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                                              2. jimski
                                                • 14 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                I had him for 5 weeks too.

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                                          4. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                            • 15 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Got to be a City defender. Zab, Kompany?

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                                        13. vamp persie
                                          • 13 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          still trying to figure out rvp/aguero/michu transfer for gw9 with 0.1 in bank

                                          what do you think of
                                          rvp + michu ➡ aguero + walters which leaves me with 3.2 in the bank

                                          gw10
                                          demel +hughes ➡ rafael and someone else

                                          what do you think and who should fill that last spot

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                                          1. jimski
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Not so sure on Walters. Stoke barely score. Invest in their defence instead, I'd say.

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                                            1. vamp persie
                                              • 13 Years
                                              13 years, 2 months ago

                                              already have kevin nolan so what do you think of james morrison or duff

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                                              1. jimski
                                                • 14 Years
                                                13 years, 2 months ago

                                                I like Morrison - keep an eye on their fixtures though. Up and down. You got Pienaar?

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                                          2. Scroobius Mac
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            Best laid plans of mice and men often go tits up in international breaks.

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                                        14. royals forever
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                                          • 16 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          If you were WCing over the international break would you have RVP in your WC team or do you think that 13.5m can be spent in better places

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                                          1. vamp persie
                                            • 13 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            i don't think he's needed

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                                          2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            you will get differing opinions on this. The way to make the call is to ask yourself, do you think any other striker is capable of going crazy at any given moment the way RvP is, especially if United get their act together from an attacking standpoint

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                                          3. jimski
                                            • 14 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            I'd keep him. My w/c team would be something like:

                                            Jaas / Begovic
                                            Baines / Rafa / Cuellar / 2 x 4.0
                                            Bale / Cazorla / Pienaar / Maloney / Sterling
                                            RVP / Aguero / Berb

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                                        15. Title20
                                          • 13 Years
                                          13 years, 2 months ago

                                          Jaask, Fed
                                          Rangel, Baines, Clark, Demel, Hughes
                                          Michu, Hazard, Noble, Yaya, Pienaar
                                          RVP, Tevez, Graham

                                          1.5m in the bank

                                          2 FT

                                          looking at graham -> Berba

                                          what should i do?

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                                          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
                                            • 15 Years
                                            13 years, 2 months ago

                                            That.

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