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12 October 2012 1408 comments
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This week on the virtual physio plinth, we turn our attentions to Quadriceps: Guy Demel sustains a strain against the Gunners whilst Gaston Ramirez ‘cops a corky’ in training.

Gaston Ramirez
Canny early adopters of the Fray Bentos born Gaston Ramirez were left looking for the nearest ‘pie-can’ to kick after news filtered through from Southampton of a potential six-week absence for their record summer signing.

Nigel Adkins described the injury as a serious “dead leg” proclaiming that:

“The muscle swelled up very much because there was nowhere for the blood to go, so there was a lot of pressure on his thigh…He has had to have a couple of days in hospital to try and relieve the pressure, so obviously he is not going to go and join the Uruguayan team over the international break.”

This type of injury is usually caused by a blunt trauma to the quadriceps. Often an opposing player’s knee sandwiches the Quadricep muscles between the Femur (thigh bone, see illustration below), resulting in a crush or compressive lesion, known as a Quadriceps Contusion/Haematoma, or, colloquially, as a ‘Dead-Leg,’ ‘Charley Horse,’ or ‘Corked Thigh/Corky.’ This category of injury commonly elicits bleeding, swelling and subsequent haematoma formation within the muscle.

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The swelling the player reportedly suffered and his subsequent hospital treatment indicates a significant injury occurred, and also gives us a considerable clue to the type of contusion sustained.

There are two types; the first, termed Intra-Muscular, describes an injury to the muscle belly but the fascia or sheath that surrounds it remains undamaged. Here, the escaped blood and fluids are localised and pool in the muscle, unable to drain or change location due the fascia compartmentalising the leakage. The second type of contusion, Inter-Muscular describes damage to the muscle and to the fascia, here the bleeding takes longer to stop (due to decreased pressure) but the players recovery is often speedier as the fluids extravasate more efficiently. Thus, armed with Nigel Adkins’ summary we may infer that Ramirez suffered an Intra-Muscular Quadriceps haematoma/contusion.

The severity of the injury is indicated by its grading with grade 1 lesions reflecting minor tightness with little or no swelling; ‘niggles,’ that can sometimes be ‘run-off’ during a match. A grade 2 contusion would elicit a clearly presentable antalgic gait, with some swelling, pain on palpation and resisted contraction plus restricted range of movement at the knee joint, whilst a grade 3 indicates that ambulation will be severely restricted and crutches will usually be prescribed as an aid, the patient will be in severe pain and a static contraction would probably produce a bulge in the muscle. Grade 3 injuries have a rehabilitation time of anything from three to twelve weeks. Weighing up the available evidence, it would seem that Ramirez suffered a grade 3 intra-muscular quadriceps contusion, the most severe in both categories.

This is an interesting one for us physiotherapists. If certain modalities, such as heat and massage, are administered too early, or if treatment is too aggressive initially, a condition known as Myositis Ossificans (bone forming within the muscle) may develop, which is why swift action to drain the wound occurred. The Uruguayan’s initial rehabilitation will involve controlling the pain and swelling before flexibility and mobility work is undertaken. Once range of motion at the knee joint is nearing optimal, strength work will be introduced. For a grade 2 contusion the strength stage would take about a week to reach and a grade 3 possibly ten days but more likely two weeks from the date of injury.

In terms of a time-scale prognosis, minor, grade 1 quadriceps contusions may often be ‘run-off’ during a match or resolved within a week. Grade 2 injuries would require one to three weeks to dissipate, whilst grade 3 injuries may require anything from three to 12 weeks rehabilitation. Current reports suggest a six-week hiatus for the Saints’ starlet, however; Premier League football clubs have access to the best medics, facilities and treatments available.

There are a battery of modalities available to the physiotherapist to nurture optimal rehabilitation for this type of injury and highly trained athletes usually respond well to Quadricep contusions, which makes me think that six weeks is a little pessimistic and although three weeks is possible, perhaps a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back around the four week mark, which would see him remain absent for West Ham and Spurs but West Brom on November 5 becomes a distinct possibility. A state of affairs that brings Adam Lallana sharply into focus as the main fulcrum of creativity for the Saints.

Guy Demel
Reports suggest that popular Fantasy asset Guy Demel sustained an injury to the Quadricep group of muscles in his match against Arsenal last weekend, prompting Sam Allardyce to speculate…

“I think Guy Demel has pulled a thigh muscle and that could be four weeks”

The footage verifies this as we see a frustrated Demel being led from the pitch by the physio, his gait, indeed, inferring Quadricep involvement. However, encouragingly for owners, the Ivory Coast full-back is able to weight bear almost fully on the affected thigh as he walks to the dug-out and, although a limp was evident, it wasn’t overly pronounced and his movement suggested the injury, in my eyes, as not significantly serious.

The Quadriceps (translated as ‘four heads’) are a large group of four muscles covering the entire front of the thigh and are served by a voluminous blood supply and therefore heal quickly as long as there is no tendon involvement. Additionally, professional footballers have strong and heavily trained Quadricep muscles, which can also precipitate swift healing times. From the footage I feel Allardyce is being a little pessimistic and, in this instance, the International break has fallen kindly for Demel’s many Fantasy owners.

The latest news reports from the Ivory Coast suggest that Demel travelled with The Elephants squad this week to be assessed by their own medics. Although at this point his fitness is still unconfirmed, it does offer us further insight into the severity of the injury, again, inferring only a minor strain, which, barring complications, should see the Hammers full-back in contention for the visit of Southampton following the International sojourn.

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  1. TorresMagic™
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    14 years, 7 days ago

    What are Lambert owners doing? No Raminez may effect his output. Great 3rd striker option though moneywise.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Keeping this gameweek. Most likely ditching him for Berba soon, i can't risk too many episodes on the wing 😐

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    2. afcblegend
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Don't think Ramirez being out will greatly affect Lambert's opportunities, it'll just mean Puncheon is plugged in on the right instead. Plus I think they'll create more chances now they have Lambert and J-Rod up top. But yep, if you can make the switch up to Berba that's all good too 😉

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    3. Back on the horse
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Keeping. On wc

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  2. Home Run Baker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Any views on the best way into CHE defence?

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    1. SPorting
      14 years, 7 days ago

      sneak up behind Luiz and hide in his hair.

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      1. Somalion
        14 years, 7 days ago

        😆

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    2. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Please let me know when you figure that out. I would like, but can't afford, Chelsea defensive cover.

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      1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
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        14 years, 7 days ago

        Bertrand will be the way in the not-too-distant future ...

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        1. Home Run Baker
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          14 years, 7 days ago

          What's going to happen?

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    3. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Wait for Terry to play, then run round him.

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    4. Moosie the Staggie
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Im waiting 4 the JT ban, hopefully b able 2 pick him around the 6.2m mark afterwards

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    5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Be a bit racist?

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  3. Grounderz
    14 years, 7 days ago

    If you have Cazorla and RVP, who would you captain for the coming GW?

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    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 7 days ago

      My team sheet says van Persie.

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Let when know when you find out. I have yet to decide

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      1. Grounderz
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Sure, mate.

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    3. cruzex
      14 years, 7 days ago

      rvp

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    4. SPorting
      14 years, 7 days ago

      what time did they both depart and how fast are they both traveling?

      it's the only way I can answer these sort if questions.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Ha! 😀

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      2. Grounderz
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Hmm... I hope you're not annoyed.

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        1. SPorting
          14 years, 7 days ago

          livid mate.

          all formulated up and nowhere to go.

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      3. 4vets
        14 years, 7 days ago

        They both departed at 10.33am and had to go via bike and train. RVP had to travel 6 miles by bike (Bloody Dutch!) and Caz obviously took the train which traveled 23 miles.

        Both were in a quantum state. It's tricky.

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        1. SPorting
          14 years, 7 days ago

          then it's obvious.

          (6000m / 10.33 x 24.00) x (23000 / 24.00 - 10.33) = Carroll.

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          1. 4vets
            14 years, 7 days ago

            Bastard!

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    5. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Suarez!

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    6. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I do have Caz and RVP, and i am captaining Suarez. I think that answers your question 😉

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      1. 4vets
        14 years, 7 days ago

        We'll drown our sorrows together.

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        1. FF Dirtbag
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Im possibly thinking the same...

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          1. SPorting
            14 years, 7 days ago

            that we can drown him?

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            1. FF Dirtbag
              14 years, 7 days ago

              We should* drown him.

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              1. SPorting
                14 years, 7 days ago

                be rude not to.

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            2. Reedy
              14 years, 7 days ago

              Like a superflous kitten

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              1. 4vets
                14 years, 7 days ago

                😆

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              2. Reedy
                14 years, 7 days ago

                *superfluous. Possible ethics fail, too.

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              3. SPorting
                14 years, 7 days ago

                like a super fluffy kitten.

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                1. Reedy
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  Yeah. That's what I meant 😉

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        2. Piggs Boson
          14 years, 7 days ago

          I plan to be celebrating another hattrick from him. I'm gutted i didn't captain him last time, never again!!

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      2. Grounderz
        14 years, 7 days ago

        😀

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    7. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Percy

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    8. Reedy
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Berbatov 😀 (and I do)

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    9. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      14 years, 7 days ago

      RVP

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    10. Grounderz
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Alright, guys. Some of you may have felt annoyed at the question but hey, just curious what the majority of you will captain. That is all. Nothing sensitive. 😉

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  4. Give The Todd Some Love
    14 years, 7 days ago

    No idea what to do with my team with this Ramirez injury (and the rest of my team being injured as well)

    Foster, Fed
    Hangeland, Demel, Clyne, Cole, Popov (don't even ask)
    Ramirez, Barfa, Caz, Fellaini, Michu
    Tevez, RVP, Berb

    1 FT, so thinking simply Demel --> 4.0, or Ramirez --> Nolan/Morrison?

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    1. Grounderz
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I reckon the latter is better. Would prefer Nolan.

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Thanks mate

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        1. Grounderz
          14 years, 7 days ago

          No worries. 😉

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  5. Kenny Dogleash
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 7 days ago

    I canny believe wee Jay Spearing is'nay in the England squad

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Fook off Kenny.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Shelvey is better
      http://tinyurl.com/czgjbdc.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        14 years, 7 days ago

        No! My gifs NEVER fail 👿
        http://tinyurl.com/czgjbdc

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        1. Parm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 7 days ago

          I like the 3rd Girl 😀

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          1. 4vets
            14 years, 7 days ago

            The 4th is my wife.

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            1. Parm
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              14 years, 7 days ago

              I feel sorry for her.

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              1. 4vets
                14 years, 7 days ago

                Why? The f-ing cow is beating me by bloody 2pts!!!!!

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            2. Epic Fail
              14 years, 7 days ago

              7th is easily the best.

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          2. Reedy
            14 years, 7 days ago

            I'm with Parm here. No offence Vets!

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            1. 4vets
              14 years, 7 days ago

              None taken. In fact it's probably impossible to offend me as I deserve all the shite I get 🙂

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              1. Reedy
                14 years, 7 days ago

                In that case, I wouldn't mind a go with her, truth be told 😉

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                1. 4vets
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  How much would I owe you?

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                  1. Reedy
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    Haha, I'll take a cheque 😉

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                  2. 4vets
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    STD check, if I were you 😉

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        2. Call Me Old Fashioned
          14 years, 7 days ago

          losing your mojo..

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            1. FF Dirtbag
              14 years, 7 days ago

              Balls.

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            2. Reedy
              14 years, 7 days ago

              You rotter! Gets me every time 😉

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              1. Piggs Boson
                14 years, 7 days ago

                I haven't done it a few months, thought the time was right 😀

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                1. 4vets
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  It just woke my son up!

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                  1. Piggs Boson
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    Whoops, sorry 4vets! 😆

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                  2. Somalion
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    That's what makes it funny!! 😀 Keep it up GB 😉

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                2. Call Me Old Fashioned
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  Thankfully the reaction of my peers while I was on another tab stopped me from opening link

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                  1. Piggs Boson
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    Damn, you were my target 😉

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                  2. Reedy
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    I'm like a human shield with this shit

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                  3. Call Me Old Fashioned
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    Love you Stuart.. 😉

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    3. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      He's too busy snuffling for truffles.

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  6. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Evs, was that Fletcher goal really offside? Hard to tell from the angle...said it might have been a harsh call.

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    1. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Evs takes on the 5th official role. Impressive 😉

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      1. Evs
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        14 years, 7 days ago

        I didn't see that incident... Sorry 😉

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  7. joinho
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Thoughts on which players are likely to rise before the next deadline?

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    1. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Probably for the nth time:

      http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php

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      1. Willis.
        14 years, 7 days ago

        That's not really answering his question though... 😉

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        1. 4vets
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Damn lazy MF! 😉

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      Seeing you still have your WC, not so important until later next week.

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  8. MJ6987
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Bale thrown his hat into the ring for Spurs pens?

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    1. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I hope so.

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      1. MJ6987
        14 years, 7 days ago

        VDV gone, Ade not a regular starter, Bale hit a good confident pen...AVB may have found his new pen taker. I hope.

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    2. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I don't know about that but I was all set on Silva. Now I'm not so sure.

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      1. Piggs Boson
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Bale over Silva. I know Doos agreeing put you off, but Bale is in great form; and scoring mids are supreme FPL players.

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        1. Evs
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          14 years, 7 days ago

          I wil continue my point from pre season...

          Bale can rip any them apart if he's in the mood.

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          1. 4vets
            14 years, 7 days ago

            Indeed. Thanx GB & Evs... let's see what happens next week.

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        2. Willis.
          14 years, 7 days ago

          +42. For a 9.6m milf, I expect goals consistently, not assists.

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  9. SPorting
    14 years, 7 days ago

    right then, gig time.

    later boys!

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    1. Reedy
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Mutley Crue?

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  10. Big_Andy_GAWA
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Danny Graham's chances of playing next week, folks ? I wish I had never got him in my team ! He is the reason I benched Michu GW1, too....!! =o(

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    1. Somalion
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Well that was truly silly...

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Lol, how were we to know Michu was to do that !? Graham was good in pre-season.

        Couldn't help but be attracted by his fixtures; hence the reason for holding on for so long....

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      Just sell & get rid of the weekly pain. He's due though.

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    3. MJ6987
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Can't believe how many people on here have had (or still have!) Graham. His scoring record has never been great.

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    4. afcblegend
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I don't think he'll be dropped, if that's what you mean. That said you should drop him from FPL, as he's too much of a selfless striker, makes very good runs to create space for others. He'll finish the season with a respectable 8-10 goals but 30 appearances will be 2pters!

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 7 days ago

        I have a feeling it might be a disrespectful 3/4 goals.

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        1. afcblegend
          14 years, 7 days ago

          an mediocre 6?

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    1. Evs
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      Is there a Volume II due out soon 😉 ?

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      1. COMH
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Due out on the 22nd of December 🙂

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Bit late now innit?

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      1. COMH
        14 years, 7 days ago

        You should get to your bed then.

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  11. Home Run Baker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Which of these floats your boat?

    A: RVP/Fellaini to Jelavic/Bale
    B: Tevez/Fellaini to Berba/Bale
    C: Fellaini/Guthrie to Pienaar/Kebe

    Thanks

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    1. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      B

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      1. Evs
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        14 years, 7 days ago

        Agree

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        1. Home Run Baker
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Need to do it now or can't afford. Take the risk?

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          1. Evs
            • Has Moderation Rights
            14 years, 7 days ago

            I you feel necessary, yes.

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          2. Piggs Boson
            14 years, 7 days ago

            I've made mine already, so i would be a hypocrite to say no! Take the plunge, and have an emergency hit available in your mind in the unlikely event things go pear shaped.

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    2. Reedy
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Between B and C. C is less exciting but you do get to keep Tevez.

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      1. Home Run Baker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 7 days ago

        C is sensible. My heart is saying Bale.

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        1. Reedy
          14 years, 7 days ago

          I'd probably do B to be honest

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      2. 4vets
        14 years, 7 days ago

        C... he actually gets to keep RVP & Tevez and see those transfers as upgrades.

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        1. Reedy
          14 years, 7 days ago

          It's hard because he doesn't have Berb yet, either. At the moment I think I'd marginally sway towards Berb over Tevez (I have both though).

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          1. 4vets
            14 years, 7 days ago

            Dammit! Thinking of prices.... Berb.

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          2. Home Run Baker
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            14 years, 7 days ago

            If I get Bale, he joins Hazard, Cazorla and Michu - that's making me hard.

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            1. Reedy
              14 years, 7 days ago

              Haha. It should!

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    3. MJ6987
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Not sure any of them are improvements over the outgoing players really. Maybe if Fellaini was out for a while but his quotes sound like he's just resting up over the International break tbh.

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      1. Home Run Baker
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Voice of reason ....

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        1. MJ6987
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Can you afford Guthrie to Sterling? Sterling's got a good fixture this week to cover you if Fellaini is out. I'm sure hell be back the week after (the Derby).

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          1. Home Run Baker
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            14 years, 7 days ago

            Not quite. I prefer Kebe anyway tbh.

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            1. MJ6987
              14 years, 7 days ago

              Fair enough.

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    4. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Ok guys. I'm taking the plunge. B it is.
      Thanks for help.
      Night all!

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  12. DRIZ ✅
    14 years, 7 days ago

    FALCAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AGAIN. 90TH MIN.

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    1. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Incredible player. I'm sure Barca or Real will pick him up soon.

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    2. Somalion
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I do so love that man.

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  13. FF Dirtbag
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Suarez or Ba for my WC team?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      14 years, 7 days ago

      demba

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    2. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Both are great players to have, but not great to buy. So i'm not sure...

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Suarez would be a good player to buy for a week and captain...sort of agree with you on Ba...I wouldn't buy after missing out on that much value

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      2. FF Dirtbag
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Well Im thinking of going for a front line of Berbatov RVP Suarez//Ba ...

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        1. 4vets
          14 years, 7 days ago

          See below, Jellyfish!

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    3. MJ6987
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Suarez this week then switch to Ba.

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    4. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I have Suarez and don't have Ba... dunno what your wc team but Jellyfish for me.

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Cheers, looks a bit like Suarez... but Jelly is a good idea too might have a think about that one

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      2. Piggs Boson
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Yes Jellyfish is a better choice than those two i think.

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  14. Chu Young Ping Pong
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Random fact of the day: Martin O'Neill was offered Radamel Falcao when the striker was a 16 year old. He chose Heskey.

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    1. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Source?

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Me.

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    2. MJ6987
      14 years, 7 days ago

      A player who got 62 England caps and had a great career. Not a goalscorer but a nightmare for defenders in his prime. Not a bad call by O'Neill really.

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      1. Locarno
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Are you drunk?

        He was a STRIKER. It doesn't matter if he got 400 caps. It matters how many goals he scored.

        That would be seven. About as many as several international defenders, whose names I could mention if I could be arsed looking up Wikipedia.

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        1. MJ6987
          14 years, 7 days ago

          How many England managers picked him? They might know more than you about football ability perhaps? Just saying, he was not as bad as people make out.

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          1. Locarno
            14 years, 7 days ago

            You used "Heskey" and "great career" in the same sentence. Do it again when there are more than 15 people online and the response will really interest you.*

            *they'll eviscerate you

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  15. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    14 years, 7 days ago

    I'm still not completely sold on Bale...he mostly dives and takes 30 yarders and gets lucky sometimes...although you could say the same about Ronaldo... 😐

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    1. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      You've just sold him to me.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 7 days ago

        hehe...I think I might have sold him to me too 😀

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      2. Reedy
        14 years, 7 days ago

        See, there really is no such thing as bad publicity!

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        1. 4vets
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Can I be your agent?

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          1. Reedy
            14 years, 7 days ago

            I've heard about men like you

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  16. Willis.
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Bale at it again. http://i.imgur.com/WY77S.gif

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 7 days ago

      It could be an optical illusion but that looks a blatant dive!

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      1. Smarty Pants
        14 years, 7 days ago

        definitely not a dive, he stumbled with his right leg over his left leg
        most likely because his right leg was pushed a bit to the left by the defender
        i'd say it's a penalty

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    2. Piggs Boson
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I was just about to post this gif 😆

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 7 days ago

        This town aint big enough for the both of you 👿

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    3. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      It's funny. I reckon there is contact and it doesn't take much contact at that speed to take ones legs away.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        14 years, 7 days ago

        +1

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      2. Willis.
        14 years, 7 days ago

        He actually trips over his own legs.

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      3. Locarno
        14 years, 7 days ago

        No chance. He dived.

        I've been a huge Bale fan for years, but he needs to get rid of that part of his game. He's nearly the same size as Drogba, and he's going down just as easily.

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        1. 4vets
          14 years, 7 days ago

          I disagree. Bale's leg is clearly clipped and he goes down. And we all know that size has nothing to do with that!

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          1. Locarno
            14 years, 7 days ago

            As I said, I doubt there's a poster on this site who's been a bigger fan of Bale of the past few years than me.

            He dived. And it's not his first, is it?

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            1. 4vets
              14 years, 7 days ago

              But it wasn't a dive. His right leg was clearly caught and he went down. The gif is a good way of looking at it as it replays again and again. I have my glasses on too.

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              1. 4vets
                14 years, 7 days ago

                *that's not saying he's not playing for it, Loc, as he clearly is... just he was fouled.

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                1. Locarno
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  Mate, I'm right. End of. Stop it. 🙂

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              2. Locarno
                14 years, 7 days ago

                I don't have to wear glasses. His leg was brushed. The rest was all his own work. He should be ashamed of himself.

                And, no, I'm not a Scotland fan.

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                1. 4vets
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  I guess we'll have to just disagree on this one, although I have no idea what having one's leg being "brushed" is like. A bit like a broom handle stuck out suddenly? 😉

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              3. COMH
                14 years, 7 days ago

                His right leg continues in a straight movement through Maloney until it comes into contact with Bale's left heel.

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      4. Piggs Boson
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Watch his left foot though. He literally 'springs away'. If he was clipped, the little jump was unnecessary.

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        1. 4vets
          14 years, 7 days ago

          That doesn't matter, if you're fouled you are fouled. He was fouled imho.

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          1. COMH
            14 years, 7 days ago

            No chance that was a foul mate. Noone wouldn't feel harshly done by if they conceded a penalty for that.

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            1. 4vets
              14 years, 7 days ago

              No point going over it Count. I guess it just shows how hard the refs job really is.

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    4. nedfoo
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Pretty sure Maloney would've complained if there was no contact.

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    5. Royal5
      14 years, 7 days ago

      what are you talking about? He tripped him. Free kick.

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      1. 4vets
        14 years, 7 days ago

        😆
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    6. Royal5
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Every time a defender puts his arms up like that you know he has done something wrong.

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      1. Locarno
        14 years, 7 days ago

        That's fecking bollocks. Defenders have to do that these days because of tw*ts like Suarez and Young who collapse if they get within six feet of them.

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        1. Royal5
          14 years, 7 days ago

          I agree that he could have stayed on his feet but it's still a foul. If you don't agree; Hate the game.

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          1. COMH
            14 years, 7 days ago

            If Bale stayed on his feet there would be no foul!

            There was nothing Maloney could have done in that situation.

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            1. 4vets
              14 years, 7 days ago

              So if you're fouled and stay on your feet it's not a foul???

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              1. COMH
                14 years, 7 days ago

                I'm not saying that.'If' he was fouled according to you.

                My point was if he stayed on his feet there would have been no simulation from Bale using his right boot to make contact with his left heel and no penalty to award!

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                1. 4vets
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  If he wasn't fouled he may have been able to do that... alas 😉

                  Night!

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      2. COMH
        14 years, 7 days ago

        No chance. That is Maloney making it clear for the ref to see so there is transparency and that he isn't going in recklessly.

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        1. 4vets
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Heh... can't leave it alone. It's not about recklessness. It was an innocent, unintentional foul, but Bales right leg was clipped and that is that.

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          1. COMH
            14 years, 7 days ago

            I'm not saying the foul is anything to do with being reckless or not. The hands in the air is just making a point to the referee that he aware of his actions.

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            1. 4vets
              14 years, 7 days ago

              So he's saying he fouled Bale? Let's move on.

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              1. COMH
                14 years, 7 days ago

                Nope. He is saying don't be a dumb official and fall for the dive 🙂

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        2. Royal5
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Like it or not it's a free kick.

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          1. 4vets
            14 years, 7 days ago

            😆 '

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          2. COMH
            14 years, 7 days ago

            To Scotland absolutely. McGregor can take it cos I don't trust Berra.

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    7. Willis.
      14 years, 7 days ago

      In conclusion: it wasn't a foul, but it wasn't a dive either. Bale trips over his own legs (his right foot clearly catches his left heel), but I doubt that it was intentional. Happy?

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      1. 4vets
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Nope 🙂

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      2. Smarty Pants
        14 years, 7 days ago

        His right foot doesn't normally catch his left heel though, there should be a reason fot it.
        Looks like a slight contact with the defender might have been that reason.

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  17. Sess!
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    14 years, 7 days ago

    Sterling or Kebe for 5th mid spot?

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    1. Sess!
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      Just looked at stats. Will take sterling all day.

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  18. Parm
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    14 years, 7 days ago

    Almost spilt my warm glass of Milk!

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A1fbed3CIAEw9o6.jpg:large

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    1. COMH
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Hahaha they love Arsenal and that is the most important thing to remember.

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      1. Parm
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        14 years, 7 days ago

        How's your FUT?

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        1. COMH
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Spent 120k getting my silver SPL/Scottish all stars in a 4-1-2-1-2.

          Wasn't cheap but loving it. Got the Celtic badge and kits too. Enjoy it more when you build a team that isn't the same old gold PL/BBVA. Still got 80k left.

          How you getting on?

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          1. Parm
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            14 years, 7 days ago

            This: http://i.imgur.com/sDJq9.jpg

            And 60k 😀

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            1. COMH
              14 years, 7 days ago

              That is awesome!

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              1. Parm
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                14 years, 7 days ago

                Yeah, Bastos and Robinho aren't too good, so could get sold soon 😀

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            2. Call Me Old Fashioned
              14 years, 7 days ago

              who is the 83 CM and 77 CB?

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              1. Mull
                14 years, 7 days ago

                Hernanes and Felipe Santana

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                1. Call Me Old Fashioned
                  14 years, 7 days ago

                  I thought it was Hernanes, would never have known the CB. As far my FUT goes I had a go at Fifa 12 and got a 4-1-2-1-2 with Italian serie A players. Then everyone started getting out of contract and I got bored.

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                  1. COMH
                    14 years, 7 days ago

                    Haha class!

                    Yeah the contracts are boring and tedious.

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              2. Parm
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                14 years, 7 days ago

                Hernanes, the both footed midfielder with high passing and dribbling stats, better than Kaka. Kaka was shite.

                Felipe Santana- Pacey centre-back with beast heading.

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        2. Mull
          14 years, 7 days ago

          His is probably sore after kicking the wall a few times after the game.

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  19. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Worth getting rid of Pienaar for Bale for a hit?

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    1. Parm
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      No, maybe for free next week though.

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      1. Optimus.
        14 years, 7 days ago

        ive come to the conclusion if anyone asks to take a hit im not going to hold them back..more points for me 😉

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        1. 4vets
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Selfish b... actually... 🙂

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    2. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Never.

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      14 years, 7 days ago

      no.

      Have both

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  20. DDC
    14 years, 7 days ago

    hey guys, some feedback on my teamwould be much apreciated.
    Bego, McCarthey
    Baines Cueller Hughes McCartney Olson
    Bale Cazorla Ben Arfa Lallana Sterling
    RVP Jelavic Berbatov

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Keepers- Don't like Henderson, but relying on Bego is ok for the meantime.

      Defenders- Good, Baines and 4 teams with decent clean sheet potential.

      Midfield- I like 😀

      Strikers- I like.

      Lack of |Citeh is worrying but never mind eh!

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  21. Optimus.
    14 years, 7 days ago

    if anyone fancies drunk call of duty invite me 😉

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    1. Optimus.
      14 years, 7 days ago

      reply fail to myself

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  22. 4vets
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Anyone fancies going to bed, you can't join me. Night all!

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    1. Optimus.
      14 years, 7 days ago

      you took the words straight out of my gf/s mouth

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    2. Smarty Pants
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Gute nacht. Schlaf gut.

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      1. 4vets
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Blimey. Danke!

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  23. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Anyone fancy rating one's team?

    http://i.imgur.com/jXgQO.png

    0FT, £1.4m in the bank.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Suarez captain...

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    2. 4vets
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I was going to bed.

      Didn't you post the same last might?

      Nice team, shame about the keepers and your mid is a wee bit week for my liking.

      Try harder! 🙂

      Finally... good night!

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Trying to fill the page.

        Pure Boredom.

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    3. FPLCEO
      14 years, 7 days ago

      I think you will have a very good week

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  24. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Team GB express their regret that Bale was not involved in the 2012 olympics but hope they can persuade him to team up with Tom Daley for 2016.

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    1. Parm
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      Shittest joke ever.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Don't shoot the messenger

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      2. Van Dal
        14 years, 7 days ago

        +1

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  25. Mogs
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Evening all. Does anyone think I should WC this team:

    Foster / Federici
    A Cole / Baines / Demel / Cuellar / Hangeland
    Cazorla / Mata / Pienaar / Noble / Kacalicinic
    RVP / Tevez / Defoe

    No cash in bank and 1 FT

    I need to get rid of Federici, Noble and Kaca.....and I'm no longer sure about Defoe/Tevez.

    Thoughts appreciated

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    1. Mogs
      14 years, 7 days ago

      WC team would be:

      Foster / Bego
      Hughes / Kolarov / Baines / Nelsen / Mertesacker
      Cazorla / Bale / Mata / Pienaar / Morrison
      Ba / Suarez / Berbatov

      or

      Foster / Bego
      Rafael / Baines / Gibbs / Wilson / Nelsen
      Cazorla / Bale / Pienaar / Morrison / Sterling
      Aguero / Ba / Fletcher or Berba

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    2. DDC
      14 years, 7 days ago

      i dont think so,just do noble to sterling and fed to bego

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    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      My team is quite similar & I am on WC. My rank is worse than yours so ever more reason too. You can get away with Foster but will need a mid upgrade. Selling Cole is the best way for that.

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  26. Royal5
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Glad i still have'nt spend my 2 FT's. Seems like injuries keep coming.. First Fellaini and now Demel.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 7 days ago

      was demel not before fellaini? i have both too

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      1. Royal5
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Really? Did'nt know that.. hmmm. Not sure what to do. Was all set on Fletcher->Berba as one of my transfers. What are you going to do?

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        1. Naboo
          14 years, 7 days ago

          Demel went off injured last match, but should be back either for Southampton or the next game

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          1. Royal5
            14 years, 7 days ago

            Ok. Thanks

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  27. Mogs
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Trouble is I'm 0.2m short to do that.

    To sort it out I would need to do something like:

    Noble - Sterling
    Defoe - Fletcher or Berba
    Federici - Begovic

    -8 points (although I could wait until the following week to do the Begovic transfer)

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      14 years, 7 days ago

      Good idea. -4 is better than a WC.

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    2. Mogs
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Reply fail to my own post!

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    3. Mogs
      14 years, 7 days ago

      Thanks TM. Reckon I'll do that. Really don't want to use my WC having resisted so far - there will be worse emergencies down the line.

      Just need to hope for no further International injuries now!

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      1. FPLCEO
        14 years, 7 days ago

        If you can keep it then you are very well placed. I reckon a good 80% have played them by now

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  28. Van Dal
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Everone saying gareth bale got a brace today! Jus checked the england scorers an rooney n wellbeck got 2 an ox. Am i missing something here??!

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    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      14 years, 7 days ago

      yes, england played san marino, might as well of played a school team lol

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      1. Van Dal
        14 years, 7 days ago

        Yes but bale never scored. Iv been hearing people say he scored twice! :s

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        1. Aki Nikkinen
          14 years, 7 days ago

          He's Welsh...

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          1. Van Dal
            14 years, 7 days ago

            So why does he play for england?? Haha ur winding me up!

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            1. Godfather Bandit 42
              14 years, 7 days ago

              Bale scored 2 goals......for Wales Vs Scotland.

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      14 years, 7 days ago

      spell check?

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    3. Aki Nikkinen
      14 years, 7 days ago

      It was against San Marino...

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    4. Valar(Keith)
      14 years, 6 days ago

      LOL!!!!

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  29. AK ⭐
    14 years, 7 days ago

    Michu and Kebe to rotate for the 4th mid spot till the time Michu has difficult fixtures?

    Yeah Ajay, you've really gotten into my head. 🙄

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