[sbu_large_image] Dugout Discussion
25 November 2012 3203 comments
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After a damp and limp Saturday serving, Fantasy managers are desperately looking to today’s agenda to provide thrills, goals and returns. The four matches certainly have potential, beginning with Liverpool’s trip to Wales to face Swansea at the Liberty. Luis Suarez will carry the hopes of many going into this match, with a stream of talent continuing throughout the day with the likes of Juan Mata, Eden Hazard, Gareth Bale, Carlos Tevez, Sergio Aguero and Demba Ba all in action.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to catch all your reactions in real-time.

The team news is in and is as follows:

Chico returns to the heart of the hosts’ back-four, with Garry Monk dropping out. Michael Laudrup’s second alteration sees Wayne Routledge replace Nathan Dyer on the flank and with Ki Sung-Yeung fit enough only for the bench, Michu keeps his role in “the hole”, with Itay Shechter leading the line again.

Swansea Starting XI: Tremmel, Rangel, Williams (c), Chico, Davies, Britton, de Guzman, Routledge, Hernandez, Michu, Shechter

Brendan Rodgers makes two changes from the side that saw off Wigan last weekend. The Liverpool boss hands Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson starts, with Andre Wisdom and Suso missing out. Henderson’s installation is likely to see Steven Gerrard moved into the more advanced central midfield role once again, while Rodgers has confirmed that Downing will come in at left-back, with Jose Enrique keeping the role on the left of the front three. Wisdom had previously started the last seven for the Reds but picked up a knock in midweek on Europa League duties.

Liverpool Starting XI: Reina, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Downing, Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, Sterling, Suarez, Enrique

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Captain Robert Hatch
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    So let me get this right.

    I was away on Holiday and return to find my two moves of choice before I left killed me. Did Tevez to Berba, and held out on 2nd choice of Bale to Silva. Bah! At least Tevez will prob be super sub now.

    Also, is Jose Sanchez Enrique really playing up front?

    My 2 FTs are my only comfort.

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      He's quite high up the pitch, but I wouldn't say up front.

      Had a goal disallowed for offside today too (rightly so)

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    2. Back on the horse
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Lesson = never go on holiday during FPL season

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  2. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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    anyone els having a terrible game week?

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    1. Bad Pen
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      Nearly everyone.

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    2. Bungle Machine
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      yeah... C'mon Silva and Bale!

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      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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        This ^^^^ times a lot

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    3. Alton E.
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      anyone else having a good one?

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      1. Shakshuka
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        25 points with tevez and mata to go.......
        Going to panic with my 2 fts 😀

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        1. Alton E.
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          nice team name there. 😀

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      2. berbatron
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        How are you having a good gw?!

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        1. Shakshuka
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          Sorta reply fail i guess if ur refering to me

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    4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      Yes.

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    5. big oak
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      yep
      other than bego's 6 best score is 3

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    6. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
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      28 points, so far:(

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    7. Waitakere_
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      Yea I was relying on Suarez...

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      1. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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        same with me.

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  3. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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    I'm not too upset Tevez is being rested. Should mean he plays versus wig + EVE, which are easier games on paper - but of course you can never tell with Mancini...

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    1. jimnastics
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggghhhttttt.............

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      1. Stern John Terry Wilson Pal…
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        Well is there not some logic to that? It was unlikely he'd play all 3 in a week, hopefully he plays the next two.

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    2. OPTA FPL
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      the key is Mancini has decided to rotate his strikers from now til end of season

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      1. Podge
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        3 matches in a week makes it inevitable

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  4. Big Bad Barry
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    Hazard bale and aguero to the rescue........please

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  5. big oak
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    half time 1-0 southampton

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  6. paraman
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    I bought tremmel last week

    4 + 9 point as a cheap replacement for foster, not bad :d

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    1. Podge
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      possible baps too

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  7. the Bap Chap
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    update:
    Gera 3, Sessegnon 2, Long 1 (close Lukaku)
    Bassong 3, Naismith 2, Oviedo 1 Garrido 1
    Evans 3, Fletcher 2, Rooney 1 Hernandez 1
    Huth 3, Shawcross 2, Begovic 2 (close Crouch, Adam) (crazily tight, all around 18-22ppi)
    Gomez 3, Beausejour 2, Morrison 1
    Bannan 3, Mertesacker 2, Szczesny 1 (close Guzan, Lowton)
    Agger 3, Skrtel 2, Tremmel 1

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      In total I will get 0 🙄

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    2. Give The Todd Some Love
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      Reeeeeally hope you're wrong about the Liverpool game...

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    3. Declan
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      4. Noice

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    4. The Chosen One...
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      Adam has to get baps....he was the only goal scorer

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    5. jamsiep
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      Taylor to none of Huth, Shawcross, Enrique is looking like a terrible, terrible move.

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    6. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      So my GKs will get 18 between them 😆

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    7. Lateriser 12
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      Sess 😀

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    8. Buck The Trent
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      Damn, gera's'10pts on my bench

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    9. IamIronMike
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Really hope your wrong with Shawx getting bonus... my PP cup match looks incredibly tight despite my opponent taking an 8 point hit to make his team look more like mine *fumes*... then again there's plenty of other players that could send me out today yet anyway ;/

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  8. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How is Ramirez playing, just noticed he has an assist 🙂 any major threat himself?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A decent free kick. They're all over Newcastle.

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    2. big oak
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      yes he is great
      thats why i brought him and carried him through his injury
      but i sold him last week

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  9. Alton E.
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    c'mon gareth

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    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
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      Thanks for the support

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  10. Back on the horse
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Come on Bale, you're playing at home.... and youre half decent. please do something

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    1. Guinney
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      plus 1

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    2. Les Bleus
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      I hope so!

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  11. Mr.KK
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    All the match-ups in the PP Cup this round are going to be real tight because of all the non-goals and non-assists.

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  12. Wings of Steel
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    |f Ba does'nt score today hes gone for me

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    1. Evs
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      ... I'm keeping.

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    2. MJ6987
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      For whom though? Doesn't seem to be any obvious replacements.

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  13. Damo.
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    If Fernando scores today. There's got to be a "The Torres Whisperer" headline somewhere tomorrow

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  14. r0nh
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    Mata 2 goals & 1 assist 🙂

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    1. OPTA FPL
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      finally...

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    2. Les Bleus
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      Let's do it!

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    3. Waitakere_
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      i'll take that

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  15. Guinney
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Moving Riise out, so looking for a defender, preferably cheaper:

    A) Mertsacker
    B)Garrido
    C) Bassong
    D) Cueller (even with DGW, Sunderland don't convince me)
    E) Ridgewell
    other

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    1. Super-Hans
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ben Davies (SWA)
      Jones (WBA)

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  16. Mind över Mata
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    So glad to be rid of Santon, he has done nothing for weeks!

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    1. Owd Big 'Ed
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Same boat with Simpson. Garbage.

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      1. big oak
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        13 years, 5 months ago

        well i beat you both
        have saylor & williamson

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  17. Owd Big 'Ed
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Had a poor gameweek so far but it looks like everyone else has too. Think I'll stick for the coming games then do Simpson to Shorey and upgrade Maloney to Sess. I'm not too bothered by Baines, he was exceptoonal yesterday.

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    1. Mind över Mata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Same moves myself this week Pie and Santon to Sess and Shorey.

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    2. Mind över Mata
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Also my feeling on Baines. Not convinced but will be explosive when Everton actually win penalty calls. No luck at all!

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  18. berbatron
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Right now would you rather have Ba+Hazard or Mata+Bale to come?

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    1. Owd Big 'Ed
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      Mata and Bale.

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    2. Podge
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      Mata Bale

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      1. berbatron
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        goodgood

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  19. I taught Ashley Young how t…
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    Erghhhh, screw it. Im doing Bale to Silva for next week

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  20. charliec1903
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    29 its with Defoe, Bale and Hazard to come. Can't complain to much by the looks of other scores!

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    1. charliec1903
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      and*

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    2. berbatron
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      Decent for this gw. I have 27 wih Bale Mata and Tevez if he comes off the bench.

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    3. Green-Pea
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      25 with gazza , santon , zab , aguero , zab and mata to play

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  21. Camzy
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    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Thinking of another 4 pointer. Cazorla + Ba > Suarez + Fellaini.

    Eek! Can't keep taking hits...

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    1. berbatron
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Could be wrth it though. Can see ba and caz blanks next week- Ba especially at stoke.

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    2. Mind över Mata
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Like the moves - do it

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    3. Drip Doctor
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      Good longterm moves though.

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    4. olidooley
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      do it I reckon

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  22. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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    I predict a Torres hat trick. C'Mon!.

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    1. rasher
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      50/1 you'll get on that

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      1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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        worth a squid )

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  23. Drip Doctor
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Half rime. Newcastle, one shot, none on target. I know Ba has Wigan coming up at home soon, but while Ben Arfa and Cabaye are out he's got to go right?

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Never come to conclusions at HT. Can wait another 45. A lot can change. 😀

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  24. Lateriser 12
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    Its kinda boring. Lets spice things up then.

    SESSEEEEEEEGNONNNNNNNNNN

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      1. Lateriser 12
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        😆 Nicely done.

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    1. Declan
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      +1

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  25. rasher
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    hahaha the head on ryan nelson on ssn

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  26. Alton E.
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone going without Sunderland cover for the next weeks?

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    1. Les Bleus
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      It wouldn't be such a big loss if you did go without any Sunderland cover IMO

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    2. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      im thinking about putting sessengson in as i ditched fletcher for suarez last week.

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    3. Desertbug
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      me

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  27. Carden
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    Thinking of Rafael to Enrique. Even if he doesn't play OOP in next game, Liv can keep CS better than MU these days.

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    1. Les Bleus
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      True dat

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    2. berbatron
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      I'm wondering whether to go Baines or Rafael - Enrique. Or even to Wisdom to really free up funds

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  28. The Finnisher
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    Tevez 😆 you ass!

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      *mancini 😉

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    2. Viper
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      Need him to outscore Aguero by 5 to go through in the cup..good start!

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      -4! Ouch!

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    4. Billy Gilmore
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      You might get 2 unexpected CSs though....

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      1. The Finnisher
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        At the expense of Ba and Sterling doing nowt.
        At least Berbatov did nothing and Tevez is up against Wigan (maybe 🙄 )

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    5. Mr.KK
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      He'll look even more like an ass when he comes on at the dying minutes.

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      1. The Finnisher
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        I'd rather that than Gunter.

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        1. Mr.KK
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          Well then we have a conflict of interest cos I got Ben Davies eagerly waiting to come off my bench.

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          1. The Finnisher
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            With Fellaini and Walcott out I was forced to play Davies. Yay. Should have captained him too. 😉

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            1. Mr.KK
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              Silver lining and all, aye! In hindsight I really should've played Davies instead of McAuley. At least we don't have to wait too long for the next gw.

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  29. Viper
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    Strongly condisering captaining Fellaini vs. Arsenal.

    Am I alone on this one?

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    1. Viper
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      *considering..god damn it!

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      1. berbatron
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        Not alone. Worried about Mata being rested. So it's between Bale, Suarez Fellaini and Tevez for me. Will probs go Tevez or Suarez in the end though.

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        1. Viper
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          Yeah it will come down to Fellaini or Tevez for me I think.. Or of course RVP

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    2. Mind över Mata
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      Still has to be RVP

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      1. Viper
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        I don't mean to be scare mongering but is there not a good chance he might sit it out?

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      2. berbatron
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        chance of him being rested?

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    3. Solenya
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      Same here.But that certain Dutchman may hv some thing to say about it.

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    4. The Chosen One...
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      He will be fresh so I'll be doing it

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    tevez is being rested!?! thank god i ditched him for aguero.

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    1. berbatron
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      Tevez plays v Wigan though

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      1. Adam Lallana makes Messi lo…
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        so dose aguero...

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